| 00:02.01 | Toludin | (pinging Torhal|work as well, not sure which one I should ask...) |
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| 03:30.37 | odine | irc hate me atm.... brb |
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| 03:31.27 | odine | there |
| 03:32.33 | odine | So i thought i understand :SetPoint, but i guess i still dont know wtf im doing! :( |
| 03:32.51 | Imhothar | what the hell? we get scam messages on CurseForge now? |
| 03:33.04 | Imhothar | God bless you I am Miss. Veronica the director of bill furthermore at the foreign remittance department of SG-SSB Bank Limited, board of administrator en route for my bank mandated me to look for least known relative of our late client he deposited in our bank sum of fourteen million five hundred thousand dollars, send a mail to my private email address (loveveronica17@gmail.com or asareveronica35@yahoo.com) so that I can expl |
| 03:33.05 | Imhothar | n more details to you, please acknowledge my mail, Best regards, Miss.Veronica, |
| 03:33.42 | Imhothar | always wondered what kind of people fall for that |
| 03:34.11 | odine | gonna try and clarify this once and for all, and pay to mind to the "wow" references its what i learned off of, if u dont know how setpoint workd in wow disregard.... anyways....... |
| 03:34.23 | odine | self.MVO:SetPoint("RIGHT", self.DayFrames[7], "RIGHT", -7, 0) -- in wow that would function perfectly |
| 03:34.34 | Imhothar | Torhal|work in case you're interested it's from user verobi |
| 03:34.37 | odine | here in rift it complains about x avis |
| 03:34.43 | odine | so coudlnt i use |
| 03:34.50 | odine | self.MVO:SetPoint("RIGHTCENTER", self.DayFrames[7], "RIGHTCENTER", -7, 0) |
| 03:34.51 | odine | ? |
| 03:35.02 | odine | .... or is it CENTERRIGHT... either way |
| 03:35.47 | Imhothar | odine: the big difference is that in WoW RIGHT/LEFT/TOP/BOTTOM always refer to the center point on that edge. in Rift they ONLY refer to the axis the edge is on, not a point |
| 03:35.58 | Imhothar | so as long as you specify ONLY a single axis you cannot use both x/y offsets |
| 03:36.09 | odine | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 03:37.49 | odine | could i do something like........ |
| 03:38.23 | Imhothar | I think you can set the offending offset to nil and it's ignored |
| 03:38.42 | Imhothar | The WoW version ov self.MVO:SetPoint("RIGHT", self.DayFrames[7], "RIGHT", -7, 0) |
| 03:38.43 | Imhothar | translates to self.MVO:SetPoint("CENTERRIGHT", self.DayFrames[7], "CENTERRIGHT", -7, 0) |
| 03:38.45 | odine | figures thats the one i need to change |
| 03:39.26 | odine | oh so my second option was right its just CENTERRIGHT and not RIGHTCENTER |
| 03:39.31 | Imhothar | but if you do that without specifying a second SetPoint() with the other axis it's still at zero |
| 03:40.11 | Imhothar | yeh for soem reason its TOP/BOTTOMCENTER but CENTERRIGHT/LEFT |
| 03:40.27 | Imhothar | I blame ZorbaTHut for broken consistency |
| 03:40.31 | odine | =P |
| 03:40.45 | Imhothar | unless its "vertical part" + "horizontal part" |
| 03:40.49 | Imhothar | then it's consistent |
| 03:40.59 | odine | ok again im still new to things... so could u give me an example of the 2nd SetPoint then? |
| 03:41.30 | Imhothar | you don't need two if you use the combined point names |
| 03:41.55 | Imhothar | TOP/LEFT/RIGHT/BOTTOM are only axes, all other are points. if you use the name of a point you're good |
| 03:41.57 | odine | ah ok |
| 03:42.15 | odine | berings me to one lsat question |
| 03:43.06 | odine | in wow (so sorry for continualy referencing it, its all i know far as this addon stuff goes) u could do SetPoint("RIGHT", frame, 0, 0) the another set point similar to that,but u cant do that yet can u? or is ther just certain instances u cant do that( hope that makes sense) |
| 03:43.35 | Imhothar | why not try it out |
| 03:43.50 | Imhothar | now that you know that RIGHT doesn't refere to a point but an axis |
| 03:43.53 | odine | oh, i plan to, just figured id ask first ;) |
| 03:44.34 | odine | Thanks so much for the clarification, lsat time i was in here regarding the same problem , i guess i just didnt quite fully understand it the fisr time, but now i do and again i thank u for that! |
| 03:44.55 | Imhothar | what (afaik) is not possible in wow is using relative anchoring |
| 03:45.21 | Imhothar | e.g. SetPoint(0, 0.3, parent, 1, 0) |
| 03:45.34 | Imhothar | that's like using % placement in css |
| 03:46.55 | Imhothar | that's in fact what the names like TOPCENTER translate to under the hood. TOPCENTER becomes (0.5, 0), RIGHT (0, nil), and so on |
| 03:50.10 | Imhothar | that makes it easy to creat frames where the content scales/positions without needing to call SetPoint() every time the parent size changes |
| 05:05.28 | seebs | Oooohh. |
| 05:05.38 | seebs | I had not figured that out. I still mostly just use the symbolic point names. |
| 05:05.48 | seebs | And yes, I have gotten confused more than once about the distinction between RIGHT and CENTERRIGHT. |
| 05:10.38 | odine | my apoligies, had to step away afk flag didnt set |
| 05:11.16 | seebs | No worries, IRC users are pretty asynchronous. |
| 05:12.25 | odine | i remember using this wayyyyyy back in the day, back before torrents lol.. good ole days of XDCC |
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| 06:38.24 | Toludin | Are you still around, Torhal / Torhal|work? |
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| 10:23.32 | ZorbaTHut | technically CENTERX and CENTERY both refer to axes as well, though I'm not sure anyone uses those |
| 11:26.40 | ZorbaTHut | also, note that both TOPCENTER and CENTERTOP will work, although officially it's always VerticalHorizontal |
| 13:55.29 | Baanano | got the ability to capture squirrels in freemarch now :P |
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| 17:51.06 | Toludin | hey Torhal, are you around? |
| 17:51.25 | Imhothar | let me try it |
| 17:51.36 | Imhothar | Hey the Curse client is totally broken and everything |
| 17:52.15 | Imhothar | hmm didn't work |
| 17:52.24 | Imhothar | my Bat Signal is broken |
| 17:52.31 | Toludin | lol |
| 17:53.33 | Toludin | has everyone else been marking their releases as 1.9/1.10/1.11? am i the only one with this problem? |
| 17:53.58 | Imhothar | what problem? |
| 17:54.38 | Toludin | curse client isn't recognizing any of my releases tagged as 2.0 |
| 17:54.50 | Toludin | keeps saying my last 1.9 release is the most up to date |
| 17:55.09 | Imhothar | isn't there a project setting for that? |
| 17:56.05 | Toludin | no clue :( don't know much about using Curse...any idea where it is on the project page? |
| 17:56.23 | Imhothar | Edit project |
| 17:56.45 | Imhothar | If there's nothing there then I don't know |
| 17:58.39 | Toludin | don't see anything like that...but for all i know i'm missing it |
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| 18:23.27 | Imhothar | heh fun, the scam message was deleted and I got a 403 when I got there |
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| 21:40.02 | seebs | ZorbaTHut: There are reports that overhead names disappear if you have supersampling on, but full-screen effects off. |
| 22:17.46 | ZorbaTHut | huh, thought I fixed that one |
| 22:18.20 | ZorbaTHut | btw, I (finally) tried out that gamebryo d3d9.dll thing and couldn't detect any difference |
| 22:25.54 | seebs | Interesting. |
| 22:26.20 | seebs | You fixed "nameplates go away with supersampling", but apparently only if full screen fx are on (I always have them on). Or so say people on forums. |
| 22:26.24 | seebs | Out adventuring, back later. |
| 23:30.42 | Imhothar | "The central problem with the difficulty curve right now is that once you have found a strategy that works, the game conditions dont really change over time and you can continue to use that strategy indefinitely. In nerd-speak, people are natural optimizers, and they are getting stuck on local maxima. " |
| 23:32.36 | Toludin | possibly more aptly, the local maximum is the global maximum. |
| 23:33.41 | Toludin | else you're implying that there are, indeed, changing conditions that would render that value no longer the maximum ;-) |
| 23:34.03 | Toludin | where's the from, anyhow? |
| 23:39.06 | Toludin | also, Torhal - I'm still seeing CBH 1.4 as the latest version on the Curse client...are there any other steps I need to take to have the 2.0 releases shown as "latest"? |
| 23:39.33 | Imhothar | unless there are big gaps between local maximums which player's don't bother crossing |
| 23:40.44 | Toludin | i suppose that brings up the question - what's on our X axis? level? skill? content difficulty? :) |
| 23:41.47 | Imhothar | probably an NP-complete problem domain |
| 23:42.12 | Toludin | we're moving out of my limited knowledge of calculus at this point.... |
| 23:42.15 | Toludin | :-P |
| 23:42.29 | Torhal | Toludin: Apparently there was a form error and my fix didn't take. Should be working now. |
| 23:45.15 | Toludin | should that show immediately in the client? or will it take a bit to propagate down? if i go to "get more addons," Click Box Healer still says Clickboxhealer-1.4 underneath (I assume that's showing the latest detected file). |
| 23:45.20 | Toludin | (sorry for being such a bother) |
| 23:46.04 | Torhal | You're fine. It could take anywhere from instantaneously to 15 minutes (unless the sync goes down). |
| 23:46.23 | Toludin | Awesome, thanks so much :) |
| 23:47.04 | Torhal | np! Sorry about not actually fixing that when I thought I had. |
| 23:47.24 | Toludin | No worries. I understand completely :) |