| 00:30.00 | Imhothar | ah dammnit patch incomming... that means at least a 3 hours brake from lua coding |
| 00:34.04 | Imhothar | looks like I'll have to do something meaningful |
| 00:36.45 | seebs | Three hours? |
| 00:37.03 | Imhothar | message said 2 hours downtime |
| 00:37.11 | seebs | Ohh, are you off in EU? |
| 00:37.25 | seebs | FWIW, my experience has been that Trion is much more likely to be done before scheduled time than after. |
| 00:37.40 | Imhothar | always was and still am |
| 00:38.07 | seebs | madness |
| 00:56.32 | Imhothar | hmm I wonder whether loadstring functions are loaded as byte or machine code |
| 01:07.23 | Noshei | why not just switch over to a US server, then you can get the patch with no downtime |
| 01:08.23 | Imhothar | that's too easy ;) |
| 01:11.16 | Imhothar | well the login sevrers must be down or something |
| 01:11.38 | Imhothar | keeps telling me my password is wrong, no matter the region |
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| 02:10.33 | seebs | EU shards back up after 37 minutes. |
| 02:10.41 | seebs | Wait, 34. |
| 02:10.48 | seebs | So basically, it was a Trion "two hour" downtime. |
| 02:13.42 | jmerlin | so it sounds like ID might be a little lulzy in 1.11 |
| 02:32.35 | seebs | Huh, that is an amazing visual bug. |
| 02:33.02 | seebs | It appears that if I'm at certain angles to a tree with sunbeams coming through it, the projected glowy-leaf textures start moving around randomly at unrelated angles. And flickering. |
| 02:33.28 | seebs | I only figured out what it was because when I moved the camera a bit further up, suddenly all the flickery things disappeared and the tree was illuminated. |
| 02:35.32 | seebs | Huh, seems to go away if I turn off shadows. |
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| 03:57.13 | Noshei | damnit |
| 03:57.48 | Imhothar | hm somethings broken, still can't log in to EU servers |
| 03:58.06 | Noshei | installed new version of gadgets:buffs and it overwrote my copy with extra filtering stuff |
| 03:58.29 | Noshei | and for some reason ghost copies wasnt turned on on the drive I store my games on |
| 04:01.49 | Noshei | thought I had posted the changes in here one time, but now I can't find it in the logs, figure it wouldnt be there |
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| 04:10.11 | Noshei | damn it |
| 05:32.49 | Thorarin | wth, patching at 55 kB/s |
| 05:32.58 | Thorarin | 33 :< |
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| 05:39.00 | Thorarin | 31 kB/s :< |
| 09:21.56 | Imhothar | hmm any idea under which conditions dump() causes (serialization failed)? |
| 09:27.24 | ZorbaTHut | recursive structures will cause that |
| 09:53.51 | Imhothar | figured it out by now |
| 10:07.42 | Imhothar | ZorbaTHut: how expensive would you rate the SetPoint call? |
| 11:01.54 | Imhothar | my math is not flawless... |
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| 11:15.06 | Wildtide | morning folks |
| 11:15.34 | Imhothar | heyho |
| 11:15.53 | Wildtide | is reeling from the prospect of sorting out somewhere in the region of 24 souls |
| 11:39.01 | Wildtide | hmm, i need to get my head around the cleric. i read lots of people saying bye-bye icar, and i have no idea yet why icar is no longer viable |
| 11:39.51 | Wildtide | oh, DoL is 20 points in? i see now |
| 11:43.44 | Wildtide | and, and massively nerfed... really should have spent more time on the PTS |
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| 19:16.41 | ZorbaTHut | imhothar, "as cheap as I could make it". It's a gigantic it-depends though - for example, if setting a point invalidates a whole ton of other frames that refer to it, then there's going to be a lot more computation. |
| 19:17.16 | Imhothar | oh joy |
| 19:17.26 | ZorbaTHut | Also, note that while SetPoint itself is quite fast, the act of moving a frame is somewhat slow. That's deferred as long as possible, but it does mean that individual SetPoint() calls will, themselves, be misleadingly speedy. |
| 19:17.42 | Imhothar | you won't be liking what I'm working on right now |
| 19:17.51 | Imhothar | oh |
| 19:17.57 | Imhothar | well maybe you will like it then |
| 19:18.17 | ZorbaTHut | if it involves a whole ton of moving frames then I may be able to give suggestions as to how to make it faster. :) |
| 19:18.40 | Imhothar | a whole ton may be an underestimation |
| 19:18.53 | Imhothar | "may" |
| 19:19.55 | jmerlin | What are you guys talkin bout? |
| 19:21.40 | ZorbaTHut | the speed of :SetPoint(). I actually don't know what the context is yet :V |
| 19:22.28 | jmerlin | What's that for? Like overlay stuff or rendering within a frame? |
| 19:22.54 | ZorbaTHut | it's pretty much the core layout function |
| 19:28.39 | jmerlin | ZorbaTHut: Do you write more C/C++ or more Lua on a daily basis? |
| 19:29.00 | ZorbaTHut | mostly C++, there isn't much of the addon system that's actually written in lua |
| 19:32.31 | jmerlin | I think I'm going to write a JS -> Lua compiler. There was this pretty decent one but the guy killed his github project and I can't find any forks :| |
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| 20:20.04 | seebs | I should make time to mess with addons. I might try to make a Gadgets plugin for Merisioux. |
| 21:27.08 | Thorarin | Why would you want to convert from JS to Lua, actually? 0.o |
| 21:27.56 | Imhothar | because he can? |
| 21:28.14 | Imhothar | that's the most sane answer I came up with |
| 21:29.17 | Thorarin | Then you can write Lua in TypeScript! :P |
| 21:29.56 | Imhothar | http://xkcd.com/378/ ? |
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| 21:32.02 | jmerlin | Because it's fun to write transpilers, and because then with a little bit of mocking, you can prototype/design addons in a browser, because why not? |
| 21:32.05 | Thorarin | Mmmm, is that the one about emacs? :P |
| 21:32.11 | Imhothar | aye |
| 21:32.43 | Thorarin | http://bellard.org/jslinux/ :D |
| 21:34.00 | Thorarin | It has emacs! :P |
| 21:34.43 | jmerlin | Oh wow, x86 with MMX emulation |
| 21:34.46 | jmerlin | hot. |
| 21:35.24 | jmerlin | It's pretty snappy, too, lol. |
| 21:35.32 | Thorarin | Not too bad :) |
| 21:36.11 | jmerlin | If it used HTML5 local storage, it could be a nice development platform for a Chromebook |
| 21:37.17 | jmerlin | Ah, it lets linux do the MMX emulation, I was wondering |
| 21:37.24 | jmerlin | That stuff isn't fun to emulate. |
| 21:39.00 | Thorarin | I think the instruction set is quite limited, but still |
| 22:06.09 | Imhothar | I think I need some sleep... something is throwing empty error messages without any callstack information |
| 22:06.14 | Imhothar | I must be hallucinating |
| 22:06.30 | Imhothar | from serious sleep deprivation |