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| 11:50.27 | Noshei | OMG it is no winter in Coloraod, finally, it is SNOWING!!!!!!! |
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| 16:41.40 | Thorarin | Yay beta :) |
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| 19:14.13 | Wildtide | evenin' all |
| 19:14.59 | Wildtide | ZorbaTHut, has the latest update forced a move of the addon directory? |
| 19:15.29 | Wildtide | had a slight moment of confusion when all of my dev projects suddenly failed to open |
| 19:15.30 | Thorarin | Mine is still in the game dir.. |
| 19:15.44 | Wildtide | hmm, no idea why mine moved then |
| 19:16.30 | Wildtide | ahhh, it's Curse client trying to be clever |
| 19:16.38 | Wildtide | that's getting uninstalled then |
| 19:18.25 | Noshei | yeah curse client now moves your shit, instead of letting you set the location |
| 19:18.40 | Noshei | like would have been smart |
| 19:18.50 | Thorarin | -.- |
| 19:19.18 | Wildtide | yep, it's gone from my machine now |
| 19:27.25 | Imhothar | Now that's a disppointment |
| 19:27.38 | Imhothar | not giving people options is bad |
| 19:33.46 | Imhothar | moving working copies is not cool |
| 19:34.14 | Imhothar | moving aything without my permission is not cool |
| 19:34.55 | Imhothar | goodbye Curse client |
| 19:35.03 | Imhothar | at least for Rift |
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| 20:01.34 | Acenth | Hey guys, Curse Client dev here. |
| 20:01.54 | Imhothar | heyho |
| 20:01.57 | Acenth | I wanted to clarify why we did what we did. We were told by Trion that the default location was changing and would no longer work. |
| 20:02.38 | Wildtide | hi |
| 20:03.29 | Acenth | To not mess up normal users, we decided to migrate addons when we did the move. Now, in hindsight this messes up power users. I'll look into supporting non-standard addon directories going forward. |
| 20:03.50 | Wildtide | guess it's not a problem for most people, but scared me a little when i opened up my dev environment, and all of my stuff had disappeared |
| 20:04.18 | Imhothar | a checkbox to move the folders or not would be nice, I feel uneasy seeing an app move around my dev stuff |
| 20:04.51 | Wildtide | tbh, if Trion are going to force a move, we're going to have to change where our stuff lives anyway |
| 20:04.54 | Acenth | Understandable. Really, we've been meaning to add the option to set the directory, we just never had the time |
| 20:05.20 | Acenth | I'm guessing here, but I believe the movie is related to Windows 8. In 8, anything in My Documents is synced to the cloud |
| 20:05.38 | Acenth | Since you can configure Rift to use whatever directory you want, I'm sure you wouldn't have to change. But by default, it would change |
| 20:05.42 | Acenth | move* |
| 20:07.21 | Acenth | The main issue for us was the fact that if a you manually installed a mod into the new location, the game stopped detecting the old location. So we couldn't leave the old addons behind |
| 20:07.45 | Acenth | We also didnt catch the addon settings mismatch, where the old settings didnt get loaded either =/ |
| 20:08.08 | Imhothar | addon settings? |
| 20:08.13 | Noshei | the change is to stay in line with microsoft best practice |
| 20:08.29 | Wildtide | oh, Saved Variables? |
| 20:08.43 | Acenth | Yeah, saved variables :P |
| 20:08.53 | Imhothar | oh you're right they weren't copied |
| 20:08.56 | Acenth | Noshei: Right, but also because of cloud syncing |
| 20:08.59 | Imhothar | that's evil |
| 20:09.02 | Acenth | Yeah =/ |
| 20:09.35 | Acenth | Honestly, Rift really should have done this automatically. Non-client users would have had issues as well |
| 20:09.45 | Acenth | A nice little dialog that asks to move everything |
| 20:10.58 | Acenth | Will get a new update out for the Curse Client before Storm Legion that fixes most of this stuff. Sorry for the issues folks. |
| 20:11.00 | Imhothar | I see why you did it, and I agree Trion should have done it themselves |
| 20:11.18 | Wildtide | no worries, and thanks for popping in to clarify. really appreciated :) |
| 20:11.31 | Acenth | No problem :) Torhal was threatening to kick me in the sins. |
| 20:11.38 | Acenth | shins* |
| 20:11.38 | Wildtide | rofl |
| 20:11.58 | Imhothar | A boss by example |
| 20:12.28 | Wildtide | and i thought you had mystical oracle powers... |
| 20:12.49 | Acenth | If only... that'd be badass |
| 20:12.54 | Wildtide | :) |
| 20:13.50 | Imhothar | but while we have the chance to talk to you: other than that the curse client is awesome |
| 20:15.07 | Wildtide | 'tis true... it was a life saver when i used to play WoW and had about a million addons |
| 20:19.11 | Imhothar | hmm I wonder, does Win8 then also sync the git/svn working folder? That would be terrible |
| 20:20.56 | Imhothar | oh man, I see it coming. The day I install Win8 it's a whole day of configuring stuff to prevent the Microsoft best prctive from happening |
| 20:21.06 | Wildtide | lol |
| 20:21.49 | Wildtide | i've run Rift on Win8, it worked fine once i installed DX9c |
| 20:23.00 | Wildtide | and tbh, Win8 is so painful to use, you soon lose the ability to care about where anything is ;) |
| 20:23.02 | Acenth | Imhothar: Yes, if it is in the My Documents folder, it gets synced |
| 20:23.15 | Acenth | I run Win8 on my home computer, and love it. |
| 20:23.25 | Imhothar | I never liked the MyDocuments folder |
| 20:23.37 | Wildtide | i find the switch between Ex-Metro and Desktop too jarring |
| 20:24.04 | Imhothar | hmm that reminds me... the MyDocuments stuff of The Sims 3 is a few hundred MB |
| 20:24.04 | Wildtide | it really feels like a table and a PC stuck together, and throwing you between the two feels wrong |
| 20:24.10 | Imhothar | enjoy syncing |
| 20:24.11 | Wildtide | *tablet |
| 20:24.34 | Wildtide | is your home computer an all-in-one touchscreen machine? |
| 20:24.42 | Acenth | Nope |
| 20:24.52 | Acenth | Gaming desktop with a Apple Cinema Display |
| 20:25.10 | Wildtide | don't you find the gestures, using a mouse, really bad? |
| 20:25.19 | Acenth | Sometimes |
| 20:25.25 | Acenth | Mainly horz scrolling =/ |
| 20:25.27 | Wildtide | aye |
| 20:25.40 | Acenth | Also, having to hover in the right corners to see the charm bar |
| 20:25.45 | Wildtide | yep |
| 20:26.29 | Wildtide | once i discovered Win+C that wasn't quite so bad |
| 20:28.02 | Imhothar | hmm what does the syncing sync with when all you got is a PC and a MacBook |
| 20:28.22 | Acenth | It syncs to SkyDrive |
| 20:28.43 | Acenth | If you have another Win 8 computer/tablet, when you sign in, your profile is pulled down (Settings, favorites, apps, etc) |
| 20:28.52 | Imhothar | yeah... IF |
| 20:29.03 | Acenth | Ecosystem :) |
| 20:29.32 | Acenth | How useful is iMessage if you dont own a Mac, and just an iPhone |
| 20:29.43 | Wildtide | ugh, previous experiences with roaming profiles wasn't great, hope it's improved |
| 20:30.04 | Imhothar | iMessage gets usefull when everyone and their aunt have an iPhone |
| 20:30.16 | Acenth | I was pleasantly surprised when I logged in to Win 8. All my favorites, social accounts, etc were all ready to go. |
| 20:30.18 | Acenth | Even email |
| 20:30.20 | Imhothar | oh well, the world is gettign cloudy so what |
| 20:30.23 | Wildtide | :) |
| 20:30.35 | Acenth | :P I use a Windows Phone |
| 20:30.36 | Wildtide | i haven't got an iPhone, i've got a WebOS phone ;) |
| 20:34.22 | Imhothar | I wish there was an independent cross-platform service for all this syncing the platform devs would incorporate, I hate to be forced to a certain platform |
| 20:34.44 | Imhothar | Did I hear Dropbox? Yes I did! |
| 20:34.58 | Imhothar | well almost |
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| 21:57.42 | Wildtide | anyone know exactly how to make sense of the "infinite loop on Y" dump? |
| 21:59.12 | Imhothar | the what? |
| 22:00.50 | Wildtide | when you use setpoint and mess it up, you get an error "Infinite Loop on Y axis" |
| 22:01.02 | Wildtide | and a massive (in my case) list of frame names |
| 22:01.12 | Imhothar | you have a circular reference |
| 22:01.12 | Wildtide | just trying to understand where the error is in the list |
| 22:01.21 | Wildtide | yes, though i'm not sure how/why |
| 22:01.26 | Wildtide | i'll find it... |
| 22:01.56 | Imhothar | I guess you are somehow trying to SetPoint to top frame on the list to the bottom one, or vice versa |
| 22:02.08 | Wildtide | i really need to dump all my SetPoint calls |
| 22:02.34 | Wildtide | it's dynamically generated, so a bit awkward to work out what's going on :( |
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| 22:20.13 | Wildtide | aha, my root frame in the hierarchy wasn't anchored to anything. apparently the API doesn't like that |
| 22:20.30 | Imhothar | It's anchored to UIParent |
| 22:20.44 | Imhothar | I think |
| 22:21.24 | Imhothar | or maybe nothing, who really knows |
| 22:25.06 | Wildtide | not sure, but just adding a setpoint TOPLEFT to UIParent fixed it |
| 23:22.58 | Imhothar | Wonder how much overhead it would add to the UI engine if I changed the font size of 100 Text widgets several times a second |