| 00:39.26 | Noshei | ZorbaTHut: are you going to be posting notes for the new stuff on the PTS or should I pull them from there? |
| 00:41.20 | Noshei | oh and super ugly errors from Dev Tools on PTS right now |
| 00:41.42 | Noshei | Error: TrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsREvent.Ability.Range.True hookWEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueRRTrionDevelopmentToolsRTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True |
| 00:41.42 | Noshei | hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueventTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueEvent.Ability.Range.True |
| 00:41.42 | Noshei | hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True |
| 00:41.42 | Noshei | hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsisTrionDevelopmentToolsdeprecatedTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolstheTrionDevelopmentToolsaddonTrionDevelopmentToolsenvironmentTrionDevelopmentToolsisTrionDevelopmentToolsnotTrionDevelopmentToolsinTrionDevelopmentToolscompatibilityTrionDevelopmentToolsmodeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsandTrionDevelopmentToolsTr |
| 00:41.42 | Noshei | ionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True |
| 00:41.43 | Noshei | hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolshasTrionDevelopmentToolsanTrionDevelopmentToolsactiveTrionDevelopmentToolshookTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsnamedTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueEvent |
| 00:41.45 | Noshei | .Ability.Range.True hookEvent.Ability.Range.True hookEvent.Ability.Range.True hookventTrionDevelopmentToolsEvent.Ability.Range.True hookbilityTrionDevelopmentToolsRangeTrionDevelopmentToolsTrueTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentToolsTrionDevelopmentTools |
| 00:41.47 | Noshei | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.49 | Noshei | stack traceback: |
| 00:41.52 | Noshei | [C]: in function 'error' |
| 00:45.57 | Cairenn | ummmm |
| 00:46.05 | Cairenn | use pastebin, please? :p |
| 00:46.35 | Cairenn | whacks Noshei with an obvious stick |
| 00:46.40 | Noshei | lol |
| 00:46.48 | Noshei | I did say it was super ugly |
| 00:46.51 | Cairenn | like, seriously |
| 00:47.12 | Cairenn | I flip over to this channel and just see this non-stop scroll of spam :p |
| 00:47.21 | Noshei | lol |
| 00:47.24 | Cairenn | pokes Noshei some more |
| 00:47.35 | Noshei | how do you do those ^ |
| 00:47.44 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.57 | Noshei | lol |
| 00:48.04 | Cairenn | yup, just like that |
| 00:48.04 | Noshei | cool, thanks |
| 00:48.09 | Cairenn | np :) |
| 00:48.29 | Cairenn | Now just promise me that you'll use pastebin for large pastes from here on out :p |
| 00:49.08 | Noshei | bah, I'll just put it on the forums |
| 00:49.32 | Noshei | but I usually do if it is huge, wasn't sure how long that actually was |
| 00:49.39 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 00:50.04 | Cairenn | gotta poke ya some times though, don't want you guys starting to think I don't luv ya or anything |
| 00:50.20 | Cairenn | any more* |
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| 05:18.27 | Thorarin | Hmm, never looked at those TrionDevelopmentTools before |
| 05:18.46 | Thorarin | That framecap is bound to generate some performance warnings ;) |
| 06:00.50 | ZorbaTHut | it works fine as long as you don't try to cap it below 11fps :V |
| 06:01.33 | Thorarin | Hmm, I guess :) |
| 06:02.04 | ZorbaTHut | although honestly, a developer using TDT to cap the framerate extremely low would be perfectly within their rights to just click the "ignore error" box. I assume developers know what they're doing. |
| 06:09.56 | seebs | ... have you ever MET a software developer? |
| 06:10.48 | seebs | I'm currently drafting a proposed plan for a hypothetical speed run of the first zone in TSW. |
| 06:11.02 | seebs | It turns out that their very weird quest and XP systems make this an interesting puzzle. |
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| 08:22.51 | Wild|work | good morning folks |
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| 09:10.38 | Wild|work | cor ZorbaTHut, a whole new guild API stealth released? nice! |
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| 12:46.32 | Noshei | morning everyone |
| 13:28.24 | Baanano | hi |
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| 17:58.32 | Imhothar | the error reports are getting more mysterious every day |
| 18:02.12 | seebs | Error: Behind the shaded field, a lone reference to an undefined global grows. Beneath it lie the ruins of your code. |
| 18:02.43 | Imhothar | you got your D&D evening? |
| 18:04.49 | seebs | I wish. All the gamers I know are too overloaded to run games. |
| 18:05.53 | Thorarin | I miss D&D at times :/ |
| 18:06.01 | fewyn | i wish i had people to play D7D with |
| 18:06.07 | fewyn | D&D* |
| 18:06.37 | seebs | Shortly before I quit WoW, I had been attempting to organize a Tavern RP of D&D. |
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| 20:09.39 | Wildtide | evenin' folks |
| 20:12.13 | Baanano | hi wildtide |
| 20:12.46 | Wildtide | just tried rift on Win8, it didn't go well |
| 20:13.20 | Baanano | what happened? |
| 20:13.44 | Wildtide | the startup videos were just an epilepsy-inducing load of flashing colours |
| 20:14.05 | Wildtide | and then when the character select screen appeared, i got the background, but no dialogs or anything else |
| 20:14.33 | Wildtide | actually, not character select, it would have been the EULA screens |
| 20:16.06 | Baanano | maybe the scaleform ui doesn't work in win8? |
| 20:16.36 | Wildtide | aye, that could be it |
| 20:17.09 | Wildtide | seems odd, MS guarantee that every Win7 app will work, so i assumed the underlying code hadn't really changed |
| 20:18.07 | Baanano | flash related things work at their own pace |
| 20:18.16 | Wildtide | hehe |
| 20:18.21 | Baanano | i get constant flash player crashes since the last version |
| 20:18.41 | Wildtide | i assume scaleform doesn't need flash to be installed? it uses it's own engine doesn't it? |
| 20:19.31 | Baanano | they may need to use a flash library at some point |
| 20:19.54 | Wildtide | hmmm. might try it when i next reboot then. not bothered installing Flash yet |
| 20:21.25 | Wildtide | ZorbaTHut: are you aware of any issues with Rift on Win8? |
| 20:24.13 | ZorbaTHut | not offhand, but I don't know if we've done any testing yet |
| 20:24.30 | ZorbaTHut | and scaleform is entirely standalone |
| 20:26.32 | Baanano | so updating flash wouldn't fix it if that is the cause :( |
| 20:27.35 | Wildtide | makes sense |
| 20:28.06 | Baanano | and the video thing... would point to bink video failing, or do videos use the scaleform ui too? |
| 20:28.34 | Wildtide | i could happily put the flickering colours instead of movies down to gfx drivers, but the completely missing dialogs doesn't seem to fit with that |
| 20:29.16 | Wildtide | i think the broken movies also happens on Wine, at least i think it did for me |
| 20:31.47 | ZorbaTHut | honestly my first guess would be a directx issue |
| 20:31.59 | ZorbaTHut | the dialogs fit with that better than you'd expect, modern rendering pathways are crazy complicated |
| 20:34.05 | Wildtide | i'm not going to lose any sleep over it :) |
| 20:34.46 | Wildtide | was tempted to move my addon dev environment over to Win8 to see if i can get used to it's bizarre UI, but i'll just have to wait until MS get it working properly :) |
| 20:35.40 | Baanano | you might need to wait until win9 then :P |
| 20:35.50 | Wildtide | lol, you're probably right |
| 20:36.13 | Wildtide | i don't know what Win8 is like with a touch screen, but without one, it's fairly horrible |
| 20:37.40 | Baanano | you need a kinect device to enjoy the experience |
| 20:38.21 | Wildtide | oh? might have to steal my son's then :) |
| 20:42.50 | Baanano | well, i expect you don't need it, but the previously-named-metro ui seems to work better with a touchscreen or kinect |
| 20:43.49 | Wildtide | yep. it's certainly kinda broken with a keyboard/mouse |
| 20:44.42 | Wildtide | but, i'll persevere. i'd quite like to get an app onto the store before official launch, seeing as i've been given a free store account for a year. just need to think of something and write it ;) |
| 20:46.52 | Baanano | TouchVi |
| 20:50.04 | Wildtide | hmm. it has possibilities :) |
| 20:53.27 | Baanano | do you really think it has possibilities? it would be like combining the worst of a text ui with the worst of a touch gui |
| 20:54.05 | Wildtide | no, i was being silly ;) |
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| 21:01.43 | Wildtide | i was going to spend a good couple of hours working on Gadgets, but i simply can't be bothered right now. too tired :( |
| 21:01.50 | Wildtide | cya later |
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| 23:29.21 | Baanano | fishing and survival was 1.8 or 1.9? |
| 23:31.50 | seebs | I think 1.8? |
| 23:32.19 | seebs | Hmm. There was an update which added stuff to them, and I *think* that was 1.9, but it could have been a hotfix. My memory for orders of events is poor. |
| 23:32.55 | Baanano | same here :P |
| 23:33.44 | Baanano | time goes by so fast... |
| 23:50.50 | Cairenn | ZorbaTHut: ping? |
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