| 00:54.08 | Solsis | lol.. Guess you are about or in progress of raiding as well Noshei. We are starting in about 10 mins. |
| 00:54.44 | Noshei | yeah,running a bit late tonight, but starting in a few |
| 03:23.12 | Solsis | Noshei... your UI is very cluttered... I would go bat sheet crazy looking at that.. lol |
| 03:23.25 | Noshei | lol |
| 03:23.38 | Noshei | it gets less cluttered when I go in combat |
| 03:23.53 | Solsis | We'll see momentarily I suppose.. =P |
| 03:23.53 | Noshei | well kinda |
| 03:25.06 | Noshei | I think that was #24 |
| 03:25.19 | Solsis | wow |
| 03:25.32 | Solsis | Someone not grab that add quick enough? |
| 03:25.49 | Noshei | no, MT died to breath |
| 03:26.10 | Noshei | adds are stupid easy with DoL threat |
| 03:27.09 | Noshei | dang it, reset my alt zoom again |
| 03:28.45 | Noshei | guess it didnt get reset |
| 03:28.52 | Noshei | was just where i was standing |
| 03:30.00 | Solsis | My guild is still in the early phases of raiding so we haven't gotten to stuff like that yet. |
| 03:30.22 | Noshei | what are you guys working on? |
| 03:38.29 | Solsis | We did RoS this week. |
| 03:39.00 | Solsis | Pugs left after the weekly so that's where we stopped. But it went fairly well for the first week. |
| 03:39.18 | Noshei | nice |
| 03:40.17 | Solsis | I'm in a big recruiting frenzy atm.. If I can at least get us over 10+ consistent every week then doing 20 mans won't be a big deal. Pugging 5ish people isn't too bad and will have minimal impact on the group. |
| 03:40.51 | Solsis | We are at that borderline where some weeks we have more than 10 other weeks we are under 10. |
| 03:41.10 | Solsis | What server you on? |
| 03:41.24 | Noshei | the RP one |
| 03:41.40 | Solsis | ah |
| 03:41.41 | Solsis | kool |
| 03:41.57 | Noshei | just moved here last week for higher pop server |
| 03:43.10 | Noshei | how about you? |
| 03:44.15 | Solsis | Just moved to Wolfsbane like 2 or 3 weeks ago for the same reason. |
| 03:46.00 | Solsis | Wolfsbane is the highest pop pve server. We watched some pop charts for Wolfsbane and Deepwood for about a week. Wolfsbane is at high pop more during the times we play/raid so that's what we decided to go with. |
| 03:50.13 | Solsis | doh.. you are the OT.. lol |
| 03:50.18 | Solsis | ARE* |
| 03:50.58 | Noshei | well im the add tank in p1 |
| 03:51.12 | Noshei | p2 has tank swaps |
| 03:51.18 | Solsis | ah |
| 03:51.25 | Noshei | if we ever get that far |
| 03:51.31 | Solsis | lol |
| 03:51.48 | Solsis | You guys seem to keep dieing in the same spot-ish |
| 03:51.53 | Noshei | that was #30 |
| 03:52.13 | Noshei | yeah |
| 03:52.41 | Noshei | there are sometimes when there isn't much you can do, that time was my fault for not getting a cd off fast enough |
| 03:53.10 | Noshei | and the devs fault for not giving me a reactive cd |
| 03:56.23 | Solsis | So which raid is Laethys in? |
| 03:56.42 | Noshei | Infernal Dawn |
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| 03:59.24 | Solsis | That's what I thought. |
| 03:59.31 | Solsis | Wasn't sure though. |
| 03:59.33 | Noshei | this is going to be interesting |
| 03:59.47 | Solsis | You not use the /saveequip # /loadequip # |
| 04:01.06 | Noshei | yeah I do, was just debating if I wanted to keep my tank gear on |
| 04:01.40 | Noshei | and that is why clerics tank adds in p1 |
| 04:11.19 | Noshei | time to go make some textures, fun |
| 04:15.01 | Solsis | make textures? |
| 04:18.28 | Noshei | yeah |
| 04:18.57 | Noshei | I'm making a single texture for the play/gold/silver icons, instead of wasting 3 frames |
| 04:19.46 | Noshei | this way I eliminate 5 frames |
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| 05:28.59 | Solsis | That's pretty nice. |
| 05:29.37 | Solsis | I finally picked up someone to help with my addon. Another person that is learning LUA but has other programming background. I'm pretty excited. |
| 05:30.02 | Solsis | Just going over structure of what I have put together so far. |
| 05:31.50 | Noshei | nice |
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| 11:50.23 | arton | Was there just a patch? |
| 11:53.20 | arton | seems there was then |
| 11:53.38 | arton | On the 20th heh |
| 12:02.00 | arton | Hmm, and can't reproduce the bug. |
| 12:02.11 | arton | fun stuff maynard |
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| 16:25.43 | Solsis | Mornin |
| 17:02.44 | Baanano | hi |
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| 20:59.55 | Wildtide | good evening folks |
| 21:03.53 | Baanano | hi wildtide |
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| 22:02.59 | Noshei | some big changes it seels wildtide |
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| 22:23.19 | Wildtide | hi Noshei |
| 22:23.26 | Noshei | hey |
| 22:23.44 | Wildtide | very few code changes were actually needed tbh, but i added in a couple of the most asked for things atm |
| 22:25.43 | Noshei | yeah I figured I would have to change some stuff in my templates to get it to work with raid frame resizing, but no problems at all |
| 22:26.14 | Wildtide | yep, there shouldn't have been any, good to know there weren't :) |
| 22:26.45 | Noshei | looks like I will have to do something to get teh text to scale though |
| 22:26.57 | Noshei | but thats not a big issue at all |
| 22:27.09 | Wildtide | in a Label element, you can specify the element and scale to resize with |
| 22:27.22 | Wildtide | so i specify health bar and 0.4, and the font scales appropriately |
| 22:27.54 | Wildtide | and in anchors, you can use "TOPLEFT" etc, or {0,0} now |
| 22:29.01 | Noshei | oh nice |
| 22:29.28 | Noshei | that will be easy to do, have to get that done tonight for my update tomorrow |
| 22:30.09 | Wildtide | cool, let me know of any bugs you find. i'm half asleep but wanted to get an update out without spending days testing |
| 22:30.50 | Noshei | fair enough |
| 22:31.05 | Noshei | of course you'll have to do another update tomorrow for 1.9 |
| 22:31.22 | Noshei | at the least to change the toc file |
| 22:31.28 | Wildtide | i wasn't planning to tbh |
| 22:31.58 | Wildtide | it's not like WoW is it? i doesn't disable 1.8 plugins |
| 22:32.03 | Wildtide | *it doesn't |
| 22:32.49 | Wildtide | i just really hope Zorba got the cast bar issue sorted in time, otherwise there's a lot of pain coming my way |
| 22:32.54 | Noshei | I don't think it will unless it is really old |
| 22:33.11 | Noshei | but it will say out of date on the addon screen |
| 22:33.49 | Wildtide | ah, ok, that's fine. i'll be updating the availability stuff and releasing a 1.9 version pretty soon, just not necessarily tomorrow |
| 22:34.20 | Noshei | fair enough |
| 22:37.09 | Noshei | I've been slaving away on this mail addon, haven't even worked on the cool new template I have started for gadgets |
| 22:42.14 | Wildtide | looking forward to seeing that. how far from a first release are you? |
| 22:42.23 | Wildtide | the mail addon, that is |
| 22:43.05 | Wildtide | nm, just seen it on RiftUI :) |
| 22:44.14 | Noshei | ah that was just a teaser really |
| 22:44.24 | Noshei | no real functionality on it |
| 22:44.45 | Wildtide | oh, ok. is it worth downloading for a look? |
| 22:45.00 | Noshei | not really |
| 22:45.33 | Noshei | but I'm working on the Send tab design now, then its just a matter of getting it to work and adding a few buttons to the inbox |
| 22:46.02 | Noshei | end of the week I should have the first real beta out I hope |
| 22:47.49 | Wildtide | cool |
| 22:50.22 | Wildtide | just tried the beta, looks really nice already |
| 22:50.36 | Wildtide | and the watchdog bit libUnitDatabase on startup :( |
| 22:51.07 | Noshei | on the PTS? |
| 22:51.22 | Wildtide | yep |
| 22:51.49 | Noshei | odd, haven't gotten any errors from unitdatabase on pts |
| 22:52.30 | Wildtide | only that one time though |
| 22:53.47 | Wildtide | really not sure what i think about the watchdog |
| 22:54.52 | Wildtide | i like the idea of it, but i think it's going to cause a lot of work for us authors where there wasn't really a problem that needed to be solved |
| 22:54.56 | Baanano | it's evil |
| 22:55.28 | Wildtide | hehe, i can imaging any dealing i have with it pale into insignificance next to yours :) |
| 22:55.35 | Wildtide | *imagine |
| 22:56.10 | Baanano | it's my fault, is hard to rework a ton of spaguetti code to work async |
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| 22:57.54 | Baanano | but i agree with you, i don't understand why the watchdog is needed |
| 22:58.31 | Wildtide | yes. the old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" adage. what problem is it really fixing? |
| 22:59.22 | Wildtide | because as far as i know, though Zorba will know better, the only times any addons stall Rift and trigger the watchdog is when they are setting stuff up, and users expect that |
| 23:00.06 | Baanano | i know it's *good* that addons don't slow the game, but on the other hand... it's the player responsability to decide to use the addon or not |
| 23:01.55 | Wildtide | ah well, bit late to worry about now. we'll get to see what happens tomorrow |
| 23:02.52 | Baanano | i expect a lot of ragemail |
| 23:03.15 | Wildtide | saying that, there are no "** Upcoming NA Region Update" posts, is it happening? |
| 23:06.13 | Baanano | don't know, however i hope it's released before the weekend |
| 23:06.44 | Wildtide | why's that? |
| 23:07.09 | Wildtide | though we have a Primeval Feast raid in the calendar for Saturday, so I hope it is ;) |
| 23:07.48 | Baanano | so i can stress test the addon under real conditions this weekend and release an update soon :P |
| 23:11.23 | Noshei | well considering Elrar said it would be out tomorrow I would be very surprised if it wasn't |
| 23:12.12 | Solsis | Good evening everyone |
| 23:12.31 | Baanano | hi solsis |
| 23:13.46 | Noshei | hey sol |
| 23:16.35 | Wildtide | ello Sol |
| 23:21.08 | Baanano | see you tomorrow |
| 23:22.41 | Noshei | being a perfectionist can be a huge pain at time |
| 23:22.57 | Imhothar | heh |
| 23:23.08 | Imhothar | I know someone where 1 pixel = 1 hour of work ;) |
| 23:23.25 | Noshei | < |
| 23:23.38 | Imhothar | and it's a pain when you try to be productive |
| 23:23.41 | Solsis | I'm just happy you guys still acknowledge me... figured I'd driven you all crazy by this point. |
| 23:23.42 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:23.57 | Noshei | I'm using the magnifier that is built in windows to position stuff on my UI perfectly |
| 23:24.06 | Solsis | wow |
| 23:24.08 | Imhothar | who says you didn't? :p |
| 23:24.10 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:24.13 | Solsis | true enough |
| 23:24.17 | Noshei | lol |
| 23:24.25 | Imhothar | to me that's just overkill |
| 23:24.34 | Noshei | 500% magnification is great |
| 23:24.35 | Solsis | use align |
| 23:24.40 | Solsis | it's good enough |
| 23:24.42 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:25.03 | Imhothar | if the eye doesn't see the 1px off-alignment, who else does? |
| 23:25.36 | Solsis | I'm piddling around with git. Looking at stuff a little more in depth. I have a partner to work on my addon with and have to figure out the branching and mergins and such. |
| 23:25.49 | Solsis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.58 | Imhothar | that's pretty easy compared to other CVSs |
| 23:26.59 | Noshei | I do see it with my eye's, I just use the magnifier for easier accuracy |
| 23:27.11 | Solsis | I'm quickly learning that gits gui system is very blah... other than using it for viewing diffs and the revision logs. Clicking the buttons in the gui don't perform the same actions as typing the command on the command line |
| 23:27.20 | Imhothar | sitting 5cm away from the screen? ;) |
| 23:27.26 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:27.28 | Solsis | ^^ |
| 23:27.36 | Noshei | 16-20 inches |
| 23:27.46 | Noshei | about normal viewing distance |
| 23:28.13 | Noshei | but I have a good eye for small details |
| 23:28.24 | Imhothar | I got a collegue, who received a texture frm a designer and was totally outraged, because there was a missing antialiasing (1px wide) which ends up on a 160 dpi screen |
| 23:28.29 | Imhothar | no wait more |
| 23:28.32 | Imhothar | way more |
| 23:28.50 | Imhothar | point is: the eye can't see it, but he was on a killing spree calling the artist names |
| 23:29.04 | Imhothar | because he zoomed in on 500% and did see it! |
| 23:29.22 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:29.40 | Solsis | i understand being serious about your graphic work.. but wow |
| 23:30.05 | Wildtide | Sol - there are other GUIs available. the bundled one isn't the prettiest thing in the world |
| 23:30.38 | Wildtide | lol, my missus is like that. doesn't matter how perfect something is, if she knows it's there, it has to be fixed |
| 23:30.50 | Imhothar | poor guy |
| 23:31.08 | Solsis | Do any of you have one you recommend? Something a little cleaner? I don't mind doing things command line.. just doing some reading. |
| 23:31.20 | Imhothar | I use SmartGit on Windows and Mac |
| 23:31.30 | Wildtide | there's SmartGIT, TortoiseGIT |
| 23:31.37 | Imhothar | Tried Tower and Sourcetree on Mac but I don't like them much |
| 23:31.45 | Noshei | no real UI with tortiseGit |
| 23:31.51 | Imhothar | for SVn I use TortoiseSVN |
| 23:32.00 | Solsis | Once again.. You guys are awesome. I'll try SmartGit. |
| 23:32.15 | Noshei | http://www.twitch.tv/noshei |
| 23:32.24 | Noshei | if you want to see just how crazy I am |
| 23:32.33 | Wildtide | i actually use the addon for Eclipse as that's where i tend to do my addon dev (never did find an IDE for Lua that I really like), but my Git needs are really simple (no merging etc) |
| 23:32.34 | Solsis | Yea.. I used SVN for a while.. not just for rift but for other distribution stuff. So I was familiar with how to use it. |
| 23:33.19 | Imhothar | I thought you'd use the magnification on the rift Window, not on your text editor :p |
| 23:33.32 | Noshei | it follows my mouse |
| 23:33.38 | Imhothar | I see that |
| 23:33.43 | Imhothar | Hey mom I'm on the internets! |
| 23:33.51 | Wildtide | lol |
| 23:33.55 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:34.05 | Solsis | Hey Noshei.. are you using Xsplit? |
| 23:34.12 | Noshei | yeah |
| 23:34.24 | Solsis | are you using the free setup or did you get a license? |
| 23:34.37 | Noshei | license |
| 23:34.48 | Solsis | kool. |
| 23:34.51 | Noshei | is there a way to align text to the right? |
| 23:35.01 | Solsis | I set mine up with the free one.. just for kicks n giggles |
| 23:35.04 | Imhothar | nope |
| 23:35.06 | Wildtide | only by aligning the entire frame to the right |
| 23:35.08 | Imhothar | wiat |
| 23:35.11 | Imhothar | ther is |
| 23:35.13 | Solsis | I dont' really have any big use for it. |
| 23:35.14 | Wildtide | and not specifying a width |
| 23:35.30 | Imhothar | set the RIGHT* point of a text field |
| 23:35.36 | Imhothar | it will expand to the left |
| 23:36.05 | Imhothar | only works with Text, not RiftTextfield tho |
| 23:36.55 | Imhothar | there is unfortunately no horizontal/vertical justify |
| 23:37.37 | Wildtide | can't believe we're all sat here watching Nosh write code. this is taking being Geeks to the next level :) |
| 23:37.48 | Imhothar | yarr |
| 23:38.05 | Imhothar | Bein a nerd ftw |
| 23:38.31 | Wildtide | really must sort out that Reload UI button scaling thing. still don't know if it's mine or Zorba's bug, but i assume if i hard-code a size it'll fix it |
| 23:38.33 | Imhothar | Noshei are you re-designing the whole mailbox window? |
| 23:38.57 | Noshei | pretty much |
| 23:39.12 | Noshei | will look the same ish, but with some nice improvements |
| 23:39.29 | Imhothar | there's a ReloadUI button in Rift? I had an addon for such a button heh |
| 23:39.39 | Wildtide | it's part of Gadgets |
| 23:40.01 | Imhothar | ah, well I translated Gadgets to German but somehow didn't come to using it yet |
| 23:40.08 | Wildtide | lol |
| 23:40.43 | Noshei | here, now you can see the inbox |
| 23:41.07 | Wildtide | i miss 93%... 94% just isn't the same |
| 23:41.31 | Wildtide | mind you, since i put Rift on an SSD, it's a million times better |
| 23:41.57 | Noshei | thats with it on an SSD |
| 23:42.07 | Noshei | 2 actually in Raid 0 |
| 23:42.18 | Imhothar | Interesting, my addon focuses on items so that's why I put all the attachments there in the foreground |
| 23:42.51 | Wildtide | yep. have you tried it on a mechanical drive? you can stare at 94% for what feels like hours :) |
| 23:43.10 | Imhothar | *cough* |
| 23:43.15 | Imhothar | mehcanics ftw |
| 23:43.18 | Imhothar | ehm |
| 23:43.19 | Imhothar | nvm |
| 23:43.22 | Noshei | the second to right column displays the number of attachments |
| 23:44.11 | Noshei | but on the send tab, it will allow you to attach an unlimited amount of items, and then send the required amount of messages to send them all |
| 23:44.25 | Imhothar | thought so |
| 23:44.32 | Imhothar | why else make a mail addon |
| 23:45.25 | Noshei | gonna add multi select to the inbox as well with delete and take selected/all buttons |
| 23:45.34 | Wildtide | nn folks, cya tomorrow for the Watchdog Day celebrations :) |
| 23:45.35 | Imhothar | but considering that we have another use case for intercepting item-using from inventory addons |
| 23:45.44 | Noshei | and once it's possible I will add a contacts menu to the TO box |
| 23:46.35 | Imhothar | I think I need to put some thought into that |
| 23:46.45 | Imhothar | until we get some sort of "item used" event |
| 23:47.43 | Noshei | yeah, I still need to figure out how I'm going to intercept an item that they want attach |
| 23:47.51 | Solsis | Imhothar.. you need to make a bag sort addon.. =) |
| 23:48.01 | Imhothar | why? |
| 23:48.03 | Noshei | but thats for later, gotta finish the UI first |
| 23:48.09 | Imhothar | ImhoBags is inherently sorting already |
| 23:48.34 | Imhothar | implicitly even |
| 23:48.40 | Solsis | yea... but I can't use the items listed in the window can you? |
| 23:48.54 | Imhothar | not until 1.9 |
| 23:48.57 | Solsis | Thought your notes said you couldn't "interact" with the items |
| 23:49.04 | Imhothar | for simple sorting htere's xBagSort |
| 23:49.13 | Solsis | yea... I saw it.. but I like yours |
| 23:49.25 | Imhothar | you can grad a copy from the curse repository |
| 23:49.34 | Imhothar | branch "pts" has full interaction implemetned |
| 23:49.44 | Solsis | oh nice |
| 23:49.51 | Imhothar | but as the name implies it works on the pts only |
| 23:49.52 | Solsis | now I really CAN'T wait for 1.9 |
| 23:50.03 | Solsis | *dances in seat* |
| 23:50.17 | Imhothar | still don't have a solution to hide the rift windows tho |
| 23:50.34 | Solsis | Gawd.. you are going to top the freaking download charts tomorrow. You know that right? |
| 23:50.41 | Imhothar | tomorrow? |
| 23:50.44 | Imhothar | wiat |
| 23:50.45 | Imhothar | wtf |
| 23:50.49 | Imhothar | tomorrow? |
| 23:50.51 | Imhothar | oh damn |
| 23:50.53 | Solsis | 1.9 is tomorrow |
| 23:51.02 | Imhothar | why did nobody tell me |
| 23:51.10 | Solsis | lmao |
| 23:51.16 | Imhothar | ah screw it, need more coocies for Zorba |
| 23:51.22 | Imhothar | cookies |
| 23:52.05 | Imhothar | hm so ImhoBags 0.11 is coming way earlier than I intended |
| 23:52.11 | Noshei | well I hope no one has 10 million plat, or it wont fit |
| 23:52.45 | Imhothar | heh |
| 23:52.48 | Noshei | I have just enough room to display 7 digits for plat |
| 23:52.50 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:53.12 | Imhothar | if they a 32bit integers for money than 420k plat is the maximum |
| 23:53.18 | Imhothar | +use |
| 23:53.45 | Imhothar | in wow it's 210k as they use signed integers for money, whcih is gold + silver + copper |
| 23:54.39 | Imhothar | hmm the lie stream is gone, what am I going to watch now? |
| 23:54.42 | Imhothar | *live |
| 23:54.51 | Imhothar | damn it I'm not even drunk today |
| 23:54.57 | Solsis | lol |
| 23:55.02 | Solsis | I was thinking about it |
| 23:55.07 | Noshei | It'll be back up in about 30 mins when I start raiding |
| 23:55.15 | Solsis | More Laethys? |
| 23:55.26 | Imhothar | but thinking about it "lie stream" is an interesting term |
| 23:55.52 | Noshei | yeah, more laethys |