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| 02:04.46 | arton | let's see if I can get Rift going |
| 02:05.04 | arton | Last time I tried I got nothing but black textures. |
| 02:05.20 | arton | I've been paying the monthly all this time. |
| 02:05.39 | arton | out of support :) |
| 02:23.29 | arton | nah it's still black. |
| 02:24.18 | arton | probably some missing dll |
| 02:24.47 | arton | via Wine |
| 02:46.24 | seebs | Hmm. People on forums discuss getting it running in wine, so it may be fixable. |
| 02:49.15 | arton | ah |
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| 03:59.45 | arton | There we go. Now it's showing textures. |
| 03:59.58 | arton | I was using the non-proprietary ATI driver somehow. |
| 04:00.08 | arton | I guess I never enabled it. |
| 04:00.32 | arton | Can't believe it got as far as it did in displaying Rift. heh |
| 04:02.13 | ZorbaTHut | noshei, there for something else :) http://www.digitalgamemuseum.org/blog/history-adventure-games-maker-faire-2012 |
| 04:06.33 | arton | Bah it won't let me livestream it. I guess my connection's too slow. |
| 04:19.54 | seebs | Oooh, neat. |
| 04:20.06 | seebs | I love me some text adventures. |
| 04:20.13 | seebs | I sorta want to make a z-machine interpreter in Lua. |
| 04:20.19 | seebs | I mean. For science. |
| 04:23.03 | arton | lol |
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| 06:01.40 | ZorbaTHut | seebs, I've always wanted to make an NES emulator in some game's addon system. :V |
| 06:04.00 | Daewaen_Icewatch | play me some duckhunt during the wipes ^^ |
| 06:09.04 | seebs | NES emulator would be a lot harder, I'd think. Pretty sure z-machine's just about within scope now. |
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| 06:38.16 | arton | wonders when he triggered Bitcoin. |
| 06:38.36 | arton | Oh it goes past 93% now! |
| 06:38.40 | arton | 94% |
| 06:39.00 | arton | but it's stuck |
| 06:39.39 | arton | doesn't have much luck with Rift in general. |
| 06:40.18 | arton | ah there we go. There are people. |
| 06:40.32 | arton | nobody in my guild though. |
| 06:40.42 | arton | Message of the Day: Happy Holidays! |
| 06:41.57 | Noshei_ | lol |
| 06:46.07 | arton | my cat looks different |
| 06:46.17 | arton | and it's a higher level I think |
| 06:55.31 | ZorbaTHut | one nice thing about using a JIT language is that it's relatively easy to write a JIT emulator in it |
| 06:55.51 | arton | Rift uses LuaJIT? |
| 06:55.56 | ZorbaTHut | arton, yep |
| 06:55.59 | arton | cool |
| 06:56.31 | arton | Did Smelly Cat used to be killable? |
| 06:57.17 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, did they stop that? |
| 06:57.29 | arton | I think so. |
| 06:57.33 | arton | It's green now. |
| 06:57.44 | ZorbaTHut | not surprised, admittedly |
| 06:57.49 | arton | heh |
| 07:00.21 | ZorbaTHut | and now the hardest part of building a new computer: naming it |
| 07:00.29 | arton | :) |
| 07:00.42 | arton | Didn't you just build one not long ago? |
| 07:01.03 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that was my new main dev station. this one is going up in the room that's turning into an office |
| 07:01.12 | arton | Oh |
| 07:01.21 | ZorbaTHut | it's basically a somewhat dumb terminal, it's just so I can do work without being distracted by cat or fiancee |
| 07:01.33 | arton | nods. |
| 07:04.53 | ZorbaTHut | new computer, I dub thee Omnidroid |
| 07:08.06 | Baanano|afk | mine is named bbq, as you can cook sometimes on it :P |
| 07:11.10 | Baanano|afk | last one was named snouty, the box had a weird shape |
| 07:12.56 | ZorbaTHut | I name all my computers after AIs that went insane and tried to kill people |
| 07:13.30 | ZorbaTHut | so far I've got Lore, Maximilian, Skynet, ED-209, Cams, Vger, and now Omnidroid. Decomissioned computers include HAL, Glados, Shodan, and Sharon. |
| 07:14.38 | Baanano|afk | has any of them tried to kill you? :P |
| 07:14.49 | ZorbaTHut | Not yet. |
| 07:15.03 | ZorbaTHut | Someday, perhaps. :) |
| 07:16.18 | Baanano|afk | I like Lore the most |
| 07:17.19 | Baanano|afk | off to work, I'm late again :( |
| 07:18.05 | ZorbaTHut | Some of them are quite obscure. I've never had someone recognize Cams, and I think Sharon's only been recognized because we happened to be on the right topic |
| 07:18.13 | ZorbaTHut | Hal, Skynet, and Glados are obviously a bit less obscure :V |
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| 12:54.07 | Ingshtrom | Is there a difference between doing foo[bar] and foo.bar to access the table entry bar in the table foo? |
| 13:02.58 | Baanano|afk | foo[bar] isn't the same as foo.bar, foo.bar == foo["bar"] |
| 13:05.30 | Ingshtrom | oops. That's what I meant. |
| 13:07.54 | Baanano | then they should be the same, though foo.bar is more readable than foo["bar"] |
| 13:21.58 | Wildtide | foo[bar] is useful for using a variable as an index foo[variable], or for indices that contain spaces foo["my index"], etc, but otherwise foo.bar is a lot neater |
| 13:22.45 | Wildtide | heh, just necro'd that conversation. didn't realise it was so late in the afternoon :) |
| 13:24.54 | Baanano | nah, Ingshtrom asked it just 20 mins ago, the corpse was still fresh, that's not necro |
| 13:25.13 | Wildtide | lol |
| 13:27.08 | Wildtide | all the lua i've been writing recently has totally broken my ability to do my day job. i keep writing complete garbage in C# now (no {}'s, end's all over the place, for instead of foreach, etc) |
| 13:28.48 | Baanano | the other day I commented a line with -- and I wasn't able to figure out why it didn't compile, even when the compiler said it clearly :( |
| 13:29.19 | Wildtide | yep, that's one i do all the time now as well :) |
| 13:29.33 | Baanano | conversely, when I start writing lua just after arriving from work, I put {} everywhere and then it fails too :_ |
| 13:30.48 | Wildtide | dunno why, but i don't seem to suffer that way round, which is odd 'cos I write a helluva lot more C#/C++ then I do lua |
| 13:36.38 | Wildtide | saying that... I am sooo bored of the web app I'm working on right now, I need Zorba to tell us how to get a job doing something fun :D |
| 13:37.52 | Baanano | I think the best option is just to try to have fun with whatever you do |
| 13:43.03 | Wildtide | aye. i normally do tbh, but the current stuff is a bit mind numbing (putting together a site to support an internal client billing process). job satisfaction is limited, because most of the target users don't actually want to use it :) |
| 13:44.30 | Baanano | see the positive side, if they aren't interested in using it they won't change requirements every day during development xD |
| 13:45.04 | Wildtide | lol, i like your take on things :) |
| 13:54.38 | Baanano | well, that's probably bad, they'll want to change requirements when you have finished it and some of the changes will require reworking the architecture :P |
| 13:55.39 | Baanano | however, if they don't expect too much from it and you make an awesome product, they'll be amazed, and the next project will be more interesting |
| 14:04.40 | Wildtide | i do get to work on some pretty cool projects, if they are client projects. it's the internal stuff that has a tendency to be a bit dull. i work for a *huge* outsourcing company, which means loads of red tape and bizarre processes to get really simple things done. the current project is just trying to automate some of these things, so it's unlikely to have a lot of scope for awesome amazingness |
| 14:06.20 | Wildtide | my American colleagues do seem to have an unusual fondness for doing things manually in Excel ;) |
| 14:07.13 | Baanano | have them be able to do their job just by pushing a button and they'll like it |
| 14:07.36 | Ingshtrom | I am American and I don't do that!! |
| 14:13.31 | Wildtide | i think my particular Americans are special, Ingsh. at least I hope so, otherwise I fear for the future of mankind |
| 14:14.00 | Wildtide | 'cos they're a really odd bunch :D |
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| 23:45.34 | ZorbaTHut | wildtide, write a lot of stuff you consider fun, then walk up to someone who needs it professionally and tell him to hire you. that's what I did. :) |
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