| 01:10.26 | Vexx | grrr. i feel so noobish... anyone tell me what's wrong with this table? function rr.ratestore(player, voter, score) |
| 01:10.26 | Vexx | rr.ratestore = { players[player] = { voters[voter] = { scores = { score1 = score }}}} |
| 01:12.27 | Torhal | You're overwriting the function with a table from within the function |
| 01:13.20 | Vexx | hmm yes i'm not sure why my table is named ratestore same as the function. it was supposed to be different |
| 01:13.26 | Vexx | i'll try it |
| 01:16.03 | Vexx | eh still says "}" expected near "=" |
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| 01:19.45 | Vexx | seebs! |
| 01:19.59 | seebs | I deny everything. |
| 01:20.32 | Vexx | rr.playerdata = { players[player] = { voters[voter] = { scores = { score1 = score }}}} where player, voter, and score are variables |
| 01:20.41 | Vexx | says "}" expected near "=" |
| 01:21.55 | seebs | I think that should be playerdata = { players = { [player] = { voters = { [voter] = .... |
| 01:22.08 | seebs | The []s are levels of containment and need their own {} |
| 01:25.12 | Vexx | you're a life saver! |
| 01:31.12 | Torhal | ~pil |
| 01:31.13 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 01:31.17 | Torhal | Vexx: ^^ |
| 01:31.44 | Vexx | i need it XD |
| 01:32.16 | Torhal | It's online. 5.0 has a few minor differences from 5.1 (which Rift uses) but it's mostly the same. |
| 01:32.22 | Torhal | Go to that link. Read. |
| 01:32.41 | Torhal | You can also join #lua |
| 02:27.43 | kergoth | hmm, that starry horse is awfully feminine. guess its spiders for all my chars |
| 02:38.54 | kergoth | hmmmmm... i wonder if these weapons from the shady goods guy are worthwhile, or if i'd be better off buying more water event sigils |
| 02:38.57 | kergoth | scratches head |
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| 02:57.13 | seebs | Quick sanity check: Assuming weapons which are either all spellpower or all non-spellpower, DPS is a very good proxy for quality. |
| 02:57.26 | seebs | Huh, I wonder what I'm doing wrong. |
| 02:57.43 | seebs | I obviously have working sending between these characters, because I can beam snippets back and forth. |
| 02:57.58 | seebs | But when I try to do other sends, my callback never fires and the messages never show up. |
| 03:05.21 | seebs | ... agh |
| 03:05.24 | seebs | So it turns out. |
| 03:05.32 | seebs | That as table keys, "Foo" and "foo" are not the same. |
| 03:05.40 | seebs | yeah, I feel smart |
| 03:17.59 | Torhal | They most definitely are not |
| 03:18.02 | Torhal | :/ |
| 03:32.01 | seebs | So, thing is. |
| 03:32.30 | seebs | Names come in in any variety of forms, one of which is the game's native first-letter-capitalized, but it's non-trivial to reproduce this, so I've been calling string.lower() all over and hoping for the best. |
| 03:32.33 | seebs | But I forgot it in one place. |
| 03:32.56 | seebs | Woot! I may have an RP addon later today. Well. Not at this rate. |
| 03:44.17 | Vexx | hmm i still can't get my addon to save anything... i think the structure of my addon isn't right or something |
| 03:45.06 | Vexx | oh wait i see a mistake |
| 03:46.08 | Vexx | hmm nope nothing... |
| 03:52.26 | starlon | According to one mathematician: "If you play Powerball every day, stop playing Powerball every day." |
| 04:07.14 | seebs | WOO! |
| 04:07.33 | seebs | I am nearly to the stage of seeing someone else's biography. |
| 04:10.11 | seebs | Woot. |
| 04:10.53 | Vexx | what's the purpose of putting the functions in your addon into a table? |
| 04:13.43 | seebs | Mostly a sort of mix of conveniences. |
| 04:14.07 | seebs | It keeps them all nicely in a namespace you know you control. |
| 04:14.18 | Vexx | ah ty |
| 05:00.05 | starlon | so I finally got Rift installed, but it's fuxored, meaning all the graphics are pitch black. |
| 05:00.33 | starlon | Guess I'll bug crossover guys. :) |
| 05:02.09 | seebs | Oh! |
| 05:02.20 | seebs | One thing, I am pretty sure it requires low renderer to work. |
| 05:02.40 | seebs | It used to just crash out, though. But xover 11 just came out, so it may be different. Haven't retried. |
| 05:41.01 | starlon | k |
| 05:41.15 | Aurorus | how's Rift UI doing these days? |
| 05:55.54 | seebs | right, I gotta sleep, will be around over the weekend trying to polish Merisioux into something people can use on PTS. |
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| 19:41.16 | Vexx | so what's the easiest way to get the players name? the player that is running the addon (yourself) |
| 19:44.23 | seebs | Inspect.Unit.Detail('player').name |
| 19:46.53 | Vexx | ah nice will 'player' work in other situations as a reference? |
| 20:01.55 | Kreiri | "player" is a string. |
| 20:02.17 | Kreiri | A unit specifier. |
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| 22:21.31 | Vexx | hey seebs, any resources you know of that are like a tutorial for learning how to start making a UI? |
| 22:21.59 | seebs | I don't know of any. Actually thinking of trying to write one, but I gotta find someone who'd pay for it to justify the time sink. :) |
| 22:22.24 | Vexx | haha not me |
| 22:22.39 | imush | i will pay you |
| 22:22.42 | imush | 100 fun bux |
| 22:22.52 | Vexx | i'll probably just end up fuddling through it as per usual :P |
| 22:29.13 | seebs | Well, I used to make my living doing freelance writing, but sadly, I can't immediately see a way to pitch a lua article at this level to the people I used to do stuff for. |
| 22:29.26 | seebs | I suppose I could go shopping around MMO sites, but I somehow doubt they pay real money. |
| 22:29.43 | seebs | I suppose I could do it for peanuts, but that undermines the point of being a writer. :P |
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| 23:17.39 | Kreiri | First you draw your UI on paper or in UI designer of your IDE, if you have one, so you have a picture of your goal. Then you make a context, a window in that context, and then place widgets on that window. Then you set up widget-widget and widget-data connections. |
| 23:19.37 | Imhothar | pen & paper are a programmer's best friend |
| 23:23.16 | Kreiri | no, pencil and paper :) |
| 23:24.55 | starlon | blood and quill imo |
| 23:25.04 | starlon | human skin works best |
| 23:25.26 | Imhothar | on a table made of bones? |
| 23:25.49 | starlon | You have good genes, sir. |
| 23:26.21 | starlon | bu bu bu bad |
| 23:26.32 | seebs | Huh, I've never done it that way; I usually have a feel in advance for what I want... |
| 23:26.58 | starlon | I'm no good at creating UIs. |
| 23:27.02 | seebs | I usually like to make things by creating frames and then seeing how they look, then iterating. |
| 23:27.20 | seebs | And in a bit (still doing some work) I'll be trying to do one for Merisioux. |
| 23:27.32 | Imhothar | ye same here, if it's a complicated UI I first try to draw it down, but if not I just start hacking the frames together |
| 23:33.32 | seebs | I am so enthused about the RP addon thing. |
| 23:33.58 | seebs | I hated the maddening inefficiency of the RP addons in WoW, and the cryptic misbehaviors of the ported-and-re-ported UIs. |
| 23:34.57 | Kreiri | Seebs, are you Sioux? |
| 23:35.00 | seebs | My thought is that by providing the purely mechanical data transport as a separate library that people can imbed... |
| 23:35.02 | seebs | No. |
| 23:35.08 | seebs | Merisioux is just a pun. |
| 23:36.00 | Kreiri | After what white people did to Native Americans, it's not funny. |
| 23:36.17 | seebs | I ... huh? |
| 23:36.48 | seebs | I have had many complaints about my mispelling of Mary Sue before, that is a new one. |
| 23:48.37 | Torhal | Good lord |
| 23:49.42 | Torhal | About half the time Kreiri is in channel I WTF at least once. |
| 23:50.14 | seebs | I mean, I hang out on tumblr with people who have no fixed gender identity and stuff, I'm usually pretty much aware of the point at which stuff is offensive. |
| 23:50.35 | seebs | I sorta wanna track down some Sioux who read fanfic now to see whether they think it's funny. |
| 23:50.41 | Torhal | lol |
| 23:53.29 | seebs | I have had people chew me out for using the word "faggot"... To refer to my spouse of seventeen years. CONTEXT PEOPLE. |
| 23:54.14 | Torhal | For some words, context doesn't matter to some folks as Cairenn can attest. |
| 23:54.20 | Torhal | <.< |
| 23:54.22 | Torhal | >.> |
| 23:54.51 | seebs | I reserve the right to call my spouse names. If people want to complain, they are welcome to, but I am pretty sensitive on the topic of people wanting to mess with my marriage. |
| 23:55.21 | Torhal | Oh, I wasn't referring to that word. |
| 23:55.43 | seebs | Yeah. Well, basically everything offends someone. |
| 23:55.47 | Torhal | Yar. |
| 23:56.00 | seebs | Torhal, may I quote your part of that conversation on my tumblr? It was funny. |
| 23:56.09 | Torhal | lol |
| 23:56.10 | Torhal | Sure. |