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| 01:15.06 | ZorbaTHut | man you guys are gonna love what I'm working on right now :V |
| 01:18.19 | seebs | oooh? |
| 01:18.28 | seebs | BTW, thank you SO much for the callbacks on command.*. |
| 01:18.55 | seebs | The basic difference between WoW and Rift: In WoW, we asked for those for five years and never got even an acknowledgement that the issue could be conceived of as existing. |
| 01:19.05 | ZorbaTHut | I'm not going to *tell* you what it is, of course, I'm just going to tease you about it. :) |
| 01:19.10 | seebs | And BTW, did you see my New And Improved PTS docs? |
| 01:19.46 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, they look good! I've gotta look over 'em in more detail, I only had time for a cursory glance |
| 01:20.10 | seebs | I have not solved the question of how to avoid my addons polluting the documentable thing namespace. |
| 01:21.05 | seebs | The new multi-section one is a lot easier to use, just because it seems to make it easier to get a view of "how do I work with items" or "what is a riftwindow like". |
| 01:24.17 | ZorbaTHut | *nod* yeah, good formatting really helps, I just haven't had time myself |
| 01:24.27 | ZorbaTHut | I was sorta hoping the wiki would manage that but I think it's woefully out of date |
| 01:28.27 | Cairenn | I keep hoping that someone will update it with all their wonderful stuff *looks at seebs* |
| 01:29.15 | seebs | I am too lazy to do that final polish. :P |
| 01:29.31 | Cairenn | just get it pushed, polish can come later |
| 01:29.32 | Cairenn | :p |
| 01:33.52 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 01:34.11 | seebs | I am not sure how to do bulk updates of hundreds of things to the wiki. |
| 01:34.35 | Cairenn | idolby: thoughts? |
| 01:34.43 | seebs | What might make sense, hmm. What I sorta want is an annotation feature, which allows for the creation of a bunch of files that have annotations which are editable. |
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| 01:47.10 | seebs | Zorba, idle question: Any thoughts on loot events? |
| 01:48.03 | seebs | I hypothesize some kind of an event which fires once-per-mob-looted that provides mob ID, table-of-loot. |
| 01:48.05 | ZorbaTHut | I think they're on the long list of things I want to do, but haven't really been prioritized. I dunno, maybe I'll lump that in with doing chat |
| 01:48.27 | seebs | Ideally, I'd love to have the ability to identify which mobs yielded which loot, even when using AoE looting. |
| 01:49.07 | seebs | Also, we should get a custom title for people who find awesome bugs, and the guy who came up with that SetTexture hack should get it. That is probably the coolest abuse-of-system I've seen in 5 years. |
| 01:50.46 | ZorbaTHut | I've been meaning to suggest that, actually, and yeah that was really clever |
| 01:51.08 | ZorbaTHut | the vast majority of people's posted "exploits" are things I thought of and we decided we didn't care about. That one I didn't consider at all. :) |
| 02:00.41 | seebs | OMG I FOUND AN EXPLOIT if you give me centimeter-accurate coordinates for everything and range info for every ability I can find out which abilities are in range! ADDONS PLAY THE GAME FOR YOU!!!! |
| 02:01.35 | seebs | I hadn't even realized that you could access the live filesystem even that much. Depending on what you support for textures, it's easy to get two bytes from it (height, width), and may be possible to get a bit more data at a time by using larger ranges, although 65k*65k probably won't work. |
| 02:01.54 | seebs | But 4kx4k might, and that'd be 24 bytes from an image. |
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| 03:31.52 | seebs | Someone hates the rift forums because he got an infraction for referring to his girlfriend as an "epic mount". |
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| 04:53.06 | starlon | :\ |
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| 06:59.33 | seebs | FWIW, I just realized that the callbacks don't have an aux parameter, which limits their utility. |
| 07:00.03 | seebs | And, I just realized that I broke something in my doc creator in the split-out form. Which I need to go fix. |
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| 13:49.07 | ZorbaTHut | you're intended to use closures. :) |
| 15:33.17 | seebs | Huh. Now I'm curious, how cheap-or-expensive are closures? |
| 15:34.17 | seebs | It just seems like doing a whole ton of function(failure, message) realwork(failure, message, foo) end would ... huh. Might cost easily several milliseconds if I split my entire inventory into onesies and posted them individually. |
| 15:34.17 | fewyn | tree fiddy |
| 15:34.42 | seebs | Apparently some British newspaper once referred to a dispute between Mr. Diddy and Mr. Cent. |
| 15:54.50 | seebs | Okay, fixed the obvious bug in the doc exporter. |
| 15:54.54 | seebs | Documentation is now complete again. |
| 15:55.08 | seebs | And I have learned that if your table display function is destructive, you can't call it on the same table three times. |
| 15:55.24 | seebs | I also wish Lua had a "yes I know table copies are dodgy but in this case I am okay with the risk" table copy function. |
| 15:55.40 | seebs | Because I've rewritten that like eight times now. |
| 15:56.01 | seebs | table.naive_deep_copy_no_really_if_you_have_to_ask_dont_even_start_to_try_to_use_it(foo) |
| 15:59.16 | seebs | http://completedefeasance.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/whereupon-there-is-screaming/ <-- funny court transcript |
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| 23:15.01 | Mere | hi |
| 23:22.58 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 23:24.57 | Mere | hmm, you know, there was something I wanted to ask you about riftui, but I can't remember :) |
| 23:25.43 | Cairenn | Well, I'm usually fairly easy to find, so you can ask when you remember. :) |
| 23:26.47 | Mere | lol, about the first time I've seen you active in IRC (but then I'm on at strange times :) |
| 23:27.54 | Cairenn | Oh, I'm around at all kinds of weird hours. I just don't talk a lot in here (or anywhere, for that matter) simply because I have so many different things I'm jumping around between. |
| 23:28.45 | Cairenn | Any time you need to talk to me, though, just 'say' my name. I have my client set up to give an audible cue and also to highlight my name in the chat. |
| 23:29.02 | Cairenn | That way, if I'm around, I hear the cue, and if I'm not, I see that I was pinged earlier on. |
| 23:29.30 | Mere | yeah, I've noticed ppl do that :) |
| 23:29.34 | Cairenn | :) |