| 00:01.17 | Nivlix | :P |
| 00:01.19 | Nivlix | ok so |
| 00:01.27 | Nivlix | in luapad i get an ansewr of 75 |
| 00:01.42 | Nivlix | when i put the SAME code into an add on |
| 00:01.45 | Nivlix | it gives me 104 |
| 00:01.47 | Nivlix | ?!? |
| 00:02.30 | Nivlix | ahhhh ha |
| 00:02.48 | Nivlix | it has something to do with when the addon loads compared to when the bags are loaded |
| 00:04.24 | seebs | Yeah, there's events to check for when these things are online. |
| 00:05.49 | Nivlix | yeah i want to figure out how to do the event for when bag slots are updated |
| 00:05.59 | Nivlix | i said screw it on the unit frames for now |
| 00:06.23 | Nivlix | working on a kind of data bar, wont be plug-in-able at first, but might eventually get there |
| 00:06.35 | Nivlix | afk |
| 00:09.50 | seebs | event.item.slot, event.item.update, and that's basically it. |
| 00:12.33 | starlon | FPS is fine in Opengl and x86 Android. http://i.imgur.com/fYXhw.png |
| 00:14.08 | starlon | 130+ FPS |
| 00:14.11 | starlon | :\ |
| 00:14.52 | seebs | aggh |
| 00:14.55 | seebs | naming addons is hard |
| 00:15.38 | starlon | hehe |
| 00:16.05 | seebs | Seriously, I'm totally stuck. I can't start writing until I can name it. And I'm stumped. |
| 00:16.47 | seebs | Maybe I should call it PornAuction and just rely on the name to get me downloads. |
| 00:20.12 | starlon | Oops, http://i.imgur.com/we7Jx.png |
| 00:24.40 | starlon | It's a 90 fps on 32 bit surface. http://i.imgur.com/4PqgB.png |
| 00:27.16 | seebs | Swaggotry, FireSale, or possibly some kind of fence joke. |
| 00:27.48 | seebs | I think I may go with Swaggotry just for consistency. |
| 00:34.06 | starlon | Bug fixed. :\ Just turned off x86 features. http://i.imgur.com/CSrh0.png |
| 00:34.11 | starlon | Slows FPS down a lot though. |
| 00:36.36 | seebs | Okay, horrible pun has happened. Swaggotry it is. |
| 00:36.51 | starlon | lol |
| 00:37.12 | starlon | I have a WoW character named Artardery. |
| 00:38.52 | seebs | It'll go with Baggotry. |
| 01:09.54 | Nivlix | awww no player entered world event? :( |
| 01:13.00 | Nivlix | ok seebs how bout this one, i need an event that fires when you enter the world, but after everything is already loaded, any ideas? |
| 01:13.29 | seebs | Not sure. I think the system is more bits-and-pieces than that -- you get events for specific things being loaded. |
| 01:16.41 | Nivlix | the item.slot and item.update work, but only after something has actually happened with the bags, but doesnt work when first logging in or reloading the ui :( |
| 01:16.58 | seebs | Ahh, hmm. |
| 01:17.10 | Nivlix | and i cant find an event that triggers after the items have been loaded into the bag |
| 01:17.32 | Nivlix | on reloadui i get a count of 104/104, when i move an item in the bags, it corrects itself to 74/104 |
| 01:17.55 | seebs | Maybe Event.Addon.Startup.End? |
| 01:19.31 | Nivlix | i think i tried that one, but will try again |
| 01:19.38 | Nivlix | the system.update one might even work |
| 01:20.43 | Nivlix | AH HAH that one works, Event.System.Update.End |
| 01:21.57 | seebs | Pretty sure Event.System.Update is every frame. |
| 01:22.02 | seebs | Huh. |
| 01:22.10 | seebs | I just realized, I can do a speed measurement with coords. |
| 01:22.45 | seebs | I can calculate, say, the total movement from each frame of your last few frames. |
| 01:23.12 | starlon | all this work going into FroyVisuals and I'm giving it away free. |
| 01:23.25 | starlon | I'll have ads when I get it on the app market. |
| 01:23.33 | starlon | In the settings. |
| 01:23.43 | starlon | Not on the vis |
| 01:24.39 | starlon | Winamp's bumpscope :) http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/bumpscope.png |
| 01:50.58 | Nivlix | cant do an experience check yet from what i can tell, no inspector for it |
| 02:19.03 | starlon | Android's been upgraded to national spy. http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/03/01/2246232/nsa-publishes-blueprint-for-top-secret-android-phone |
| 02:59.57 | Nivlix | seebs, do you use luapad at all? if so, do you know if there is a way to dump the output to a text file? |
| 03:00.06 | seebs | I don't even know what it is. |
| 03:00.44 | Nivlix | doh :( anyways, its an addon that adds a lua scripting environment inside the game, so you can test code right then and there |
| 03:01.10 | seebs | Neat! |
| 03:01.16 | Nivlix | im trying to dump the new list of documentation subjects available in the game to a text file |
| 03:01.19 | seebs | I am pretty happy with my dual-monitor setup. |
| 03:01.23 | seebs | hmmm |
| 03:01.33 | seebs | Would you be interested in DocExport, perhaps? |
| 03:01.37 | Nivlix | i have one also, but i like the idea of being able to type 2 lines, and see what happens |
| 03:01.43 | Nivlix | what is DocExport? |
| 03:01.52 | seebs | http://www.seebs.net/tmp/pts.html |
| 03:02.05 | seebs | DocExport is an addon I wrote which dumps the documentation into a savedvariable. |
| 03:02.30 | seebs | There's currently a need to work around this a bit for bugs. Thing is! It also contains a Lua script which can read that saved variable and produce pretty HTML. |
| 03:02.30 | Nivlix | oh oh you already have the new stuff it looks like, ok cool |
| 03:03.59 | Nivlix | i was using the lists at riftui and riftapi wikis, thinking thats all there was, run a small script in lua pad and had it sort it alpha buy the key name and found theres a lot of stuff missing |
| 03:04.14 | Nivlix | so wanted to make an updated list, but seems you already have :P |
| 03:04.39 | seebs | And a pretty format! |
| 03:05.27 | Nivlix | aye lol |
| 03:05.51 | Cairenn | that he STILL hasn't added to the wiki! |
| 03:06.02 | Nivlix | ROFL |
| 03:06.02 | Cairenn | pokes seebs |
| 03:06.19 | Nivlix | i was JUST about to say something to the effect of "should i add it to the wiki for you seebs?" :P |
| 03:06.22 | seebs | Heh. |
| 03:06.29 | seebs | Feel free, it's... pretty rough, really. |
| 03:06.40 | Nivlix | hmmm |
| 03:06.44 | Nivlix | you said this is an addon right? |
| 03:06.59 | Nivlix | thats generating the output? |
| 03:07.18 | Nivlix | anyways afk for a few, i need to smoke |
| 03:07.47 | seebs | It's an addon exporting savedvariables, which need manual edits due to a bug in the serializer, and then there's a separate script doing the output. |
| 03:08.28 | starlon | seebs: Another thing that LibScriptable has going for it are the plugins. Each one populates a run environment (global or private) with that plugin's methods and fields. |
| 03:08.52 | starlon | There's PluginColor, PluginBlend, PluginUnit |
| 03:10.05 | starlon | That's what I need to do. Finish the documentation. |
| 03:10.46 | starlon | I was going to put it up on riftui wiki too. :\ |
| 03:11.41 | Nivlix | if you are already working on it starlon then i wont :P |
| 03:12.00 | starlon | why's that? |
| 03:12.13 | Nivlix | wait are we talking about the same topic? :P |
| 03:12.32 | Nivlix | and i wouldnt, because i dont want to step on someone elses toes |
| 03:13.12 | starlon | Hmm? |
| 03:13.20 | starlon | I'm talking about my own library. |
| 03:13.28 | starlon | Here are the plugins. https://gist.github.com/0a9a26f9eaacffc28bd8 |
| 03:14.16 | starlon | I've added three plugins to docs. heh |
| 03:14.21 | starlon | https://github.com/Starlon/LibScriptableRift-1.0/wiki/_pages |
| 03:15.07 | starlon | Some of those plugins aren't connected though. It's unfinished. |
| 03:15.31 | starlon | ResourceTools for one. |
| 03:16.27 | seebs | hmm |
| 03:16.42 | seebs | Now I am curious as to what the right event is to check for "bags are loaded, you could look at them". |
| 03:16.45 | starlon | PluginGuild, PluginLinq, and PluginResourceTools aren't finished or conntected. PluginLinq is ckknight's LibLinq |
| 03:16.55 | seebs | Turns out that my addons do not find stuff before the first item change of some sort happens. |
| 03:17.29 | starlon | Only thing about lib link is it makes a lot of string memory. |
| 03:17.34 | starlon | LibLinq |
| 03:21.42 | Nivlix | seebs |
| 03:21.47 | Nivlix | that was my issue with slot counts |
| 03:22.07 | Nivlix | use Event.System.Update.End |
| 03:22.30 | Nivlix | oh and btw seebs, im rolling while reading your hacker faq, its great |
| 03:24.11 | starlon | PluginDPS track's a unit's DPS since you last reset it. :\ Mouse over a unit frame, and see the dps for the unit. |
| 03:24.38 | starlon | There's SimpleMeter to dig into SimpleMeter's data. |
| 03:24.46 | starlon | PluginSimpleMeter that is |
| 03:26.19 | starlon | Here's the doc for PluginSimpleMeter's plugin. https://gist.github.com/b981c47f77e27b8d9898 |
| 03:26.58 | starlon | You don't have to have all the library for a single plugin. |
| 03:27.22 | starlon | I thought about making individual library addons. |
| 03:28.08 | starlon | It makes full use of RiftAddon.toc |
| 03:28.21 | starlon | Just stick the plugin's directory in its own addon. |
| 03:29.23 | starlon | Under Interface/Addons/LibScriptablePluginSimpleMeter-1.0/ |
| 03:31.20 | Nivlix | do you have to have SimpleMeter and PluginSimpleMeter for PluginDPS to work? |
| 03:31.53 | starlon | You can import the entire plugin directory as its own addon as well. |
| 03:31.56 | starlon | Nivlix: Nope. |
| 03:32.05 | Nivlix | hmmm might have to look in to that |
| 03:32.21 | starlon | Cool :) |
| 03:32.48 | starlon | There's a file on riftui's website |
| 03:33.12 | starlon | I think there are more thorough docs with it. I think I built them all. |
| 03:33.40 | starlon | Oh PluginDPS is very simple btw. |
| 03:34.53 | starlon | Just use StarTip.environment.PluginDPS("player") -- to get your own. And there's a reset function. StarTip resets it everytime you mouse over that player, so you can watch bursts or whatever. |
| 03:35.21 | starlon | s/PluginDPS/UnitDPS/ |
| 03:35.41 | starlon | That's if you have StarTip installed. |
| 03:37.32 | starlon | Hehe my guild's topic is still "Happy Holidays!" |
| 03:38.47 | starlon | I need to add some throttling StarTip based on normal mouse motions. If it's going fast, then stop the timers. |
| 03:38.59 | starlon | s/throttling/throttling to/ |
| 03:40.32 | seebs | Meh, I hate UI work. |
| 03:42.12 | Nivlix | starlon or seebs, how would i split this string 889900 starting from the right, to where i could 3 strings 88 99 and 00? |
| 03:42.24 | Nivlix | point me in the right direction and i can prolly figure it out |
| 03:42.57 | seebs | a, b, c = string.match('889900', '(..)(..)(..)') |
| 03:44.00 | starlon | can do it with regexp and captures. something like s/(.)/%1%1/ or whatever "%1" is really called. It differs from regexps, and Lua's pseudo-regexp is no different. |
| 03:44.13 | Nivlix | the string wont always be 6 characters, so i need it to start splitting from the right |
| 03:44.25 | starlon | Oh |
| 03:44.34 | starlon | Reverse the string before and after :P |
| 03:44.37 | starlon | lol |
| 03:44.47 | starlon | Kinda creates a lot of string garbage though. |
| 03:44.50 | seebs | Or just put a '.*' at the beginning. |
| 03:45.08 | seebs | The .* will greedy-match as much as it can without preventing the remainder from matching. |
| 03:45.08 | starlon | I don't know Lua's too well. |
| 03:45.17 | starlon | ah |
| 03:45.25 | Nivlix | im doing the plat, gold, silver in game, the output you get when asking for coin is ppggss which is stupid but whatever :P |
| 03:46.00 | starlon | actually I don't know regexp too well either ;) |
| 03:46.07 | Nivlix | so lets say you only had 2 silver, im assuming it would just show 2, but if you had 2 gold, 2 silver, it will show 202 |
| 03:46.13 | starlon | I just tackle them when I run into them. |
| 03:46.22 | Nivlix | i dont know em for crap :P |
| 03:46.22 | starlon | Trial and error. |
| 03:46.49 | Nivlix | i gotta learn em for work which sucks but meh |
| 03:47.01 | seebs | Tricky pedantry: Lua hasn't got regexes, it has patterns. |
| 03:47.37 | seebs | Oh, for plat/gold/silver: silver = tonumber(x) |
| 03:47.51 | seebs | gold = math.floor(silver / 100); silver = silver % 100 |
| 03:48.00 | seebs | plat = math.floor(gold / 100); gold = gold % 100 |
| 03:48.02 | seebs | poof |
| 03:49.42 | Nivlix | omg seebs your a genius |
| 03:49.58 | seebs | No, I've just beaten my head against that one before. |
| 03:50.10 | Nivlix | i did find a function that did what i wanted kind of, i would have had to do some funky shit with it though |
| 03:50.13 | seebs | ... Well, I mean, strictly yes, I am apparently "a genius", but I don't place much weight on it. :) |
| 03:50.35 | Nivlix | silver = string.sub(x, -2) |
| 03:50.50 | seebs | That'll work too. |
| 03:51.03 | Nivlix | gold = string.sub(string.sub(x, -4), 2) |
| 03:51.25 | Nivlix | but then plat hmmmm |
| 03:51.59 | seebs | Should be able to do string.sub(x, -4, -2) or something like. |
| 03:52.05 | seebs | And then string.sub(x, 1, -4) |
| 03:52.40 | seebs | ,-3 and ,-5. |
| 03:53.09 | starlon | I said pseudo-regexp :) |
| 03:53.26 | starlon | Patterns work. |
| 03:53.37 | seebs | I am going to have to rethink my entire concept of an item display thingie. |
| 03:54.00 | Nivlix | seebs did the event i mentioned help with your earlier issue? |
| 03:54.16 | starlon | So someone told me StarTip's default profile is butt ugly. :( |
| 03:54.19 | seebs | I didn't get a chance to look closely. |
| 03:54.52 | Nivlix | Event.System.Update.End thats the one i ended up using to get accurate bag counts at login and right after /reloadui |
| 03:54.58 | seebs | huh, that's odd! |
| 03:55.05 | seebs | I don't see it in my PTS docs. |
| 03:55.44 | Nivlix | what that event? its there :P |
| 03:55.49 | seebs | Yeah, that's why I'm confused. |
| 03:55.59 | seebs | ohh |
| 03:56.01 | Nivlix | http://www.seebs.net/tmp/pts.html#Event.System.Update.End |
| 03:56.01 | seebs | I had match case on |
| 03:56.04 | Nivlix | rofl |
| 03:56.20 | seebs | Thing is, that happens *every frame*, so that's expensive. |
| 03:56.44 | starlon | aww did they lower idle time limit? |
| 03:56.50 | Nivlix | i couldnt find anything else for "game is fully loaded" |
| 03:57.11 | starlon | Maybe I my internet gave out. |
| 03:57.31 | seebs | That's not "game fully loaded", though, that's "every single frame rendered". |
| 03:58.13 | Nivlix | nod i know, sorry i shouldnt have said "else" :P |
| 03:58.33 | Nivlix | with what im using it for, its not that intensive, so i guess its ok, even though i dont really like it |
| 03:59.11 | starlon | Can you force a UI reload? |
| 03:59.13 | seebs | You could deregister yourself after running once. :) |
| 03:59.28 | seebs | starlon: /reloadui |
| 03:59.30 | Nivlix | oh oh seebs how do i do that? :P |
| 03:59.33 | starlon | From addon. |
| 03:59.54 | seebs | I dunno, I assume you can scan the event.foo table for your entry and table.remove it. |
| 03:59.57 | starlon | I want to force a UI with my code. |
| 04:00.29 | starlon | :\ |
| 04:00.42 | starlon | Guess not. :) |
| 04:00.47 | starlon | I'll check docs. |
| 04:03.45 | starlon | What's UI.Native? |
| 04:03.53 | starlon | Oh |
| 04:04.00 | starlon | Cool! |
| 04:04.32 | starlon | ZorbaBeta: UI.Native.Tooltip <3 |
| 04:07.20 | starlon | Facebook's starting to irritate me. They want to know what websites I'm visiting. :\ |
| 04:08.00 | seebs | They're pretty sleazy. I used to have an account but cancelled it after the third or fourth time they turned on new data leaks without a chance to opt in or out until they'd already gone live. |
| 04:08.16 | starlon | :\ |
| 04:13.56 | seebs | D'oh! |
| 04:14.07 | seebs | Slash commands aren't hardware actions. |
| 04:15.12 | seebs | ooh. I was missing components in signatures! |
| 04:22.43 | starlon | hehe |
| 04:23.10 | seebs | I was losing info about hardware events required. |
| 04:25.30 | seebs | hmm |
| 04:27.22 | starlon | StarTip is object oriented in that each script environment is a widget object with a 'self' member pointing to the widget object itself. So you can do self:Stop(); to stop the refresh timer. |
| 04:27.47 | starlon | You can change the config on the fly. |
| 04:29.38 | starlon | I wish I had Windows so I could see StarTip's performance for real. It's crappy with Wine. |
| 04:29.59 | seebs | Interesting. There's a pair of flags which are apparently mutually exclusive, but neither has to exist. |
| 04:30.02 | starlon | Especially the default profile. >.< |
| 04:30.27 | starlon | Kinda like two countries. |
| 04:30.43 | starlon | Tell the people "neither has to exist." |
| 04:31.27 | starlon | Mutual exclusion gone nuclear. |
| 04:31.44 | starlon | :\ |
| 04:31.46 | starlon | terrible thought |
| 04:32.51 | starlon | :q |
| 04:32.53 | starlon | oops |
| 04:33.35 | Nivlix | seebs |
| 04:33.38 | Nivlix | i figured it out |
| 04:33.56 | Nivlix | if you want to know how to use the system.update.end, without having it permanently be running |
| 04:37.00 | seebs | Interesting. I am curious, though currently stuck on something miles away from it. |
| 04:37.59 | Nivlix | for k,v in pairs(Event.System.Update.End) do |
| 04:37.59 | Nivlix | if v[2] == "addonName" then |
| 04:37.59 | Nivlix | eventID = k |
| 04:37.59 | Nivlix | end |
| 04:37.59 | Nivlix | end |
| 04:37.59 | Nivlix | table.remove(Event.System.Update.End, eventID) |
| 04:38.21 | Nivlix | addonName is whatever you used when you added it to the table |
| 04:39.08 | Nivlix | so it should be the {...... , "this one", "......"} |
| 04:39.09 | seebs | yup |
| 04:39.22 | Nivlix | but you knew that :D im saying it cause it will help me remember it |
| 04:40.07 | Nivlix | luckily both the event table, and the interior tables are both numerically indexed, so it was easy to parse em and find out what was what |
| 04:40.17 | Nivlix | err i should say have numerical keys |
| 04:41.14 | Nivlix | and i actually made an "onload" function to call with that event, so i just added the table.remove to the end of the onload function |
| 04:46.30 | starlon | :\ can't write an if statement in Lua. :\ |
| 04:46.34 | starlon | lol |
| 04:46.43 | Nivlix | yes you can |
| 04:46.49 | starlon | yes I can |
| 04:46.54 | starlon | gets the spirit. |
| 04:47.02 | starlon | gets drunk. |
| 04:47.09 | Nivlix | you just have to remember that = is == :P |
| 04:47.19 | starlon | I forgot the 'then' |
| 04:47.23 | Nivlix | oh LOL |
| 04:53.52 | seebs | Okay, I may be running out of steam on development tasks. |
| 04:54.19 | seebs | I am pretty sure the next stage for LootSorter is a ground-up rewrite. |
| 04:55.53 | seebs | And the auction thing has defeated me by requiring me to make a UI with a button to run a scan. |
| 05:00.31 | starlon | wtf lcd4rift's all screwed up. |
| 05:00.55 | starlon | probably some Unit table changes. |
| 05:01.16 | starlon | No StarTip would be messed up. |
| 05:04.54 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 05:05.03 | seebs | Okay, I am not up to rewriting/redesigning a GUI right now. |
| 05:13.15 | Torhal | seebs: Make ZorbaBeta do it! |
| 05:13.18 | Torhal | hides. |
| 05:35.43 | seebs | Heh. |
| 05:35.49 | seebs | GUI work is hard for me, I don't *think* like that. |
| 05:36.01 | seebs | But I really need to redo LootSorter's GUI completely to make it useful. |
| 05:38.32 | starlon | I think my issue is due to Frames system chanes. |
| 05:38.38 | starlon | s/chanes/changes/ |
| 05:39.06 | starlon | The /visual command works, but the /lcd4rift one is broken now. |
| 05:39.25 | seebs | Mine is due to not having a really good concept of how to abstract the item-display sanely. |
| 05:39.33 | starlon | hehe |
| 05:40.04 | starlon | doesn't want to fool with this. |
| 05:40.56 | seebs | I really want to fix this up, but it's full of Hard Things. |
| 05:41.02 | seebs | Like I don't know how to do a pretty border around a frame. |
| 05:41.14 | seebs | I mean, like the greyish-but-color-coded borders inventory items get. |
| 05:46.22 | starlon | You know, with android-ndk you can bypass basic Android permissions. |
| 05:46.37 | starlon | You can download if you want, as long as there's a net connection. |
| 05:47.01 | starlon | Maybe there are some restrictions that I know of. |
| 05:47.06 | starlon | that I don't know of. |
| 05:50.12 | starlon | Someone asked if he could make StarTip follow the mouse. That's default behavior. *boggle* |
| 05:52.49 | Nivlix | hrmmm whats the html thing that you have to do to put a space in? |
| 05:53.26 | seebs | ? |
| 05:59.46 | Nivlix | yeah thats it |
| 06:00.10 | Nivlix | so i went ahead and posted nivStats in a very very primitive form to RiftUI |
| 06:01.34 | starlon | damnit; it keeps disconnecting me |
| 06:01.59 | starlon | Did they seriously lower idle time limit? :( |
| 06:02.04 | starlon | Or is it my inet? |
| 06:02.31 | Nivlix | i havent dropped out of Rift or mIRC all day, and i spent prolly 5 hours idle in both :P |
| 06:02.42 | starlon | hmm |
| 06:04.05 | starlon | shuns Rift. |
| 06:04.18 | Nivlix | :P |
| 06:04.25 | starlon | I'll work on that later. |
| 06:06.06 | starlon | So Driver and DriverCharacter are both borked. :\ |
| 06:14.57 | *** join/#riftuidev lXl (~Main@cpe-173-172-35-32.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 06:16.11 | lXl | Hello |
| 06:16.23 | Nivlix | hi! |
| 06:21.08 | Torhal | starlon: [23:56:09] <Repo> startip-rift: starlon master * v1.2.10-1-g0b02d24 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Switch to Natural by default. |
| 06:21.10 | Torhal | Huh? |
| 06:21.15 | Torhal | You're going all-natural? |
| 06:21.17 | Torhal | :D |
| 06:33.57 | seebs | I hate layout code. |
| 06:34.43 | lXl | http://sudov.im/ Fixed my code :D |
| 06:36.29 | seebs | I think we are starting to have a critical mass of active development to make people feel like trying more stuff. |
| 06:36.47 | seebs | Addon forum discussions look like they're way up. |
| 06:41.29 | Nivlix | im heading to bed guys, long day at work tomorrow |
| 06:42.38 | starlon | Torhal: Too sexy for it all. |
| 06:42.49 | Torhal | Hah |
| 06:44.12 | starlon | This little guy's giving me fits. >.< |
| 06:44.14 | starlon | typedef struct { uint16_t b:5, g:6, r:5; |
| 06:44.14 | starlon | } _color16; |
| 06:44.28 | starlon | It doesn't fit into the mold provided by ARM |
| 06:46.15 | starlon | char *dst = pixels; _color16 *dstr = (_color16*)dst; // I'm not sure how I'm supposed to fix this. warning: cast increases required alignment of target type |
| 06:58.15 | seebs | hmm |
| 06:58.25 | seebs | For once I understand! |
| 06:58.39 | starlon | I don't. |
| 06:58.42 | seebs | Okay, here's the thing. The structure you have there almost certainly has a 2-byte alignment requirement. |
| 06:58.53 | starlon | ARM is 4-byte |
| 06:58.56 | seebs | Meaning the address in memory MUST be even, or the CPU will explode on trying to read it. |
| 06:59.20 | seebs | C requires the compiler to cope with a 2-byte alignment for a 2-byte object, because otherwise arrays don't work. :) |
| 06:59.41 | seebs | But char *dst doesn't specify any alignment. So it's POSSIBLE that 'dst' could hold an odd-numbered address. |
| 06:59.54 | seebs | And then you convert it, and you MIGHT be getting something incorrectly aligned. |
| 07:00.06 | starlon | hmm |
| 07:00.20 | seebs | What type is "pixels"? Why is "dst" here at all? Why not just "_color16 *dstr = pixels"? |
| 07:00.27 | starlon | void* :) |
| 07:00.32 | seebs | (Oh, and if this is user code: Don't use leading underscores on names, it's Bad Luck.) |
| 07:00.36 | seebs | C or C++? |
| 07:00.38 | starlon | C |
| 07:00.49 | seebs | In C, then, don't use the (char *), and don't cast. |
| 07:00.49 | starlon | pixel+=4; |
| 07:00.52 | starlon | pixels+=4; |
| 07:00.54 | starlon | lol |
| 07:01.04 | starlon | Ah |
| 07:01.04 | seebs | Also don't do that, because arithmetic on (void *) is a crime against nature. |
| 07:01.13 | starlon | lol yep |
| 07:01.21 | starlon | It's all over this code though. |
| 07:01.24 | seebs | What you probably ought to do is get a correctly-typed pointer to the memory, and do arithmetic on it in native units. |
| 07:01.26 | seebs | Ewwww. |
| 07:01.33 | seebs | That's a very bad sign, usually. |
| 07:01.39 | starlon | hehe |
| 07:01.58 | seebs | I strongly distrust code that does arithmetic on (void *), because that's in divide-by-zero range conceptually. |
| 07:02.16 | starlon | :) |
| 07:02.20 | seebs | Pointer arithmetic in C takes into account the size of the thing pointed to. (void *) is a pointer to we-don't-know-what. |
| 07:02.36 | starlon | well pixel++ assumes 1 byte. |
| 07:02.42 | seebs | void is an incomplete type, thus has no size, thus is not a sane target for arithmetic. |
| 07:02.43 | starlon | pixels++ |
| 07:02.58 | seebs | GNU C tends to let you treat void * as though it were char *, but this occasionally creates dire horrors. |
| 07:03.13 | starlon | hehe |
| 07:03.22 | starlon | yeah I know it's bad |
| 07:03.30 | starlon | I'm not sure if I want to fix it all though. |
| 07:03.37 | starlon | These alignment issues need to go though. |
| 07:03.50 | starlon | I'll just have to break it down I guess. |
| 07:03.59 | seebs | The alignment may well be safe, although if you're doing pointer arithmetic in the wrong type, well, who the hell knows. |
| 07:04.04 | starlon | a shift here, a shift there. |
| 07:04.14 | seebs | The conventional solution in cases like that is: |
| 07:04.31 | seebs | _color16 tmp; memcpy(&tmp, pixels, sizeof(_color16)); |
| 07:04.48 | starlon | I was looking at memcpy for this |
| 07:04.58 | starlon | just couldn't wrap my head around how |
| 07:05.13 | seebs | Well, basically. It's inefficient but you know it won't have alignment problems. |
| 07:05.21 | starlon | nods. |
| 07:13.18 | seebs | meh |
| 07:13.30 | seebs | I really want to fix this but I cannot make my brain do it right. |
| 07:13.31 | seebs | hmm. |
| 07:13.33 | seebs | oooh. |
| 07:20.39 | starlon | seebs++; |
| 07:30.17 | lXl | Refresh: What is it referred to with function(this,that,...)? |
| 07:30.26 | lXl | I forget what the ellipsis refers to |
| 07:31.07 | seebs | Arbitrary additional arguments. |
| 07:31.16 | lXl | I forget how to handle them though |
| 07:31.48 | seebs | If you're just passing them, just pass "..." around. If you need to do something else, I think you can do ary = { ... } |
| 07:33.37 | lXl | Like if I call the function with functionname(this,that,something,somethingelse) it takes those last 2 arguments as..? |
| 07:33.54 | lXl | Ugh last time I dealt with this was like.. oUF I think. |
| 07:35.33 | seebs | They show up as ... |
| 07:35.54 | seebs | So if you do ary = { ... }, then something is ary[1] and somethingelse is ary[2]. I think there may be an implicit hidden array named arg or something. |
| 07:36.15 | lXl | Hmm |
| 07:36.17 | Torhal | Not just hidden, but unexposed to the API. |
| 07:36.21 | Torhal | That was in 5.0 |
| 07:36.34 | Torhal | 5.1 got rid of it and a few other things |
| 07:36.44 | lXl | This isn't specific to Rift btw, and slightly Lua |
| 07:36.52 | Torhal | I'm talking about Lua :) |
| 07:37.00 | lXl | I mostly am too, remembering how it did it |
| 07:37.06 | Torhal | Ah |
| 07:37.27 | lXl | Was wondering if JS had similar but I'm not sure how to really google that since it comes up with how to ADD "..." into document.write. |
| 07:37.38 | lXl | Passthrough or something I guess? |
| 07:40.36 | seebs | Ahh, so the ... thing replaced that, I guess. Useful. |
| 07:40.39 | seebs | It's a lot *nicer*. |
| 07:40.44 | starlon | Hey this isn't hard. |
| 07:40.57 | starlon | I just build it row by row. |
| 07:43.09 | lXl | Sweet |
| 07:43.16 | lXl | I put a radius proximity detection into the game :D |
| 07:43.21 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 07:43.26 | lXl | Rather, distance |
| 07:43.26 | seebs | I am thinking of doing a speedometer. |
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| 07:59.40 | starlon | *(buf++) = valuetab[*buf]; //operation on 'buf' undefined. Lovely code I'm working with. |
| 08:00.17 | starlon | *buf = valuetabl[*buf]; buf++; |
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| 08:33.51 | lXl | This is coming along nicely.. |
| 08:37.11 | seebs | hah |
| 08:37.25 | seebs | I just realized why my docexport saved variables keep getting wiped -- because of the serialization bug. |
| 08:48.27 | lXl | Now two squares will follow and basic collision detection between them http://sudov.im/ |
| 08:51.31 | seebs | Neat. |
| 08:51.38 | seebs | ... |
| 08:51.44 | seebs | Why have I not yet written a breakout clone for rift? |
| 08:51.50 | lXl | Lol IDK |
| 08:52.00 | seebs | I mean. We totally have the ability to do that. |
| 08:52.01 | lXl | All the rotation and movement I basically did today |
| 08:52.16 | seebs | starlon: yeek |
| 08:52.35 | seebs | I just noticed that undefined behavior thing. |
| 08:52.37 | lXl | Got paid to play with JS all day since the internet wasn't having problems |
| 08:52.58 | seebs | Is this a work thing or a recreation/hobby thing? As in, do you have a "boss"? |
| 08:53.14 | seebs | Because if so, that's the point at which I'd give the boss a written statement that the code base you're working with is problematic. |
| 08:53.42 | lXl | No |
| 08:53.55 | lXl | It's more like, you know when people do dungeons and they're like "BRB gotta go fix a computer" |
| 08:53.57 | lXl | It's like that |
| 08:54.22 | seebs | I was talking to starlon about the crappy code he's looking at. ... And your answer confused me anyway. |
| 08:54.26 | lXl | Ah |
| 08:55.00 | lXl | I figured he was talking about an addon or something, what is this in Star because that code looks.. I don't get it lol |
| 08:55.09 | seebs | Ahh, no. That's C, and bad C. |
| 08:55.16 | starlon | nods. |
| 08:55.21 | seebs | *(buf++) = valuetab[*buf]; <--eeeevil |
| 08:55.25 | starlon | lol |
| 08:55.27 | starlon | yep |
| 08:55.28 | seebs | And the thing is. No one should be producing code like that. |
| 08:55.36 | seebs | Because as you may have noticed, gcc notices the problem. |
| 08:55.51 | starlon | which I like gcc for |
| 08:56.06 | starlon | It can also warn me about void pointer math. |
| 08:56.09 | starlon | :\ |
| 08:56.13 | starlon | I turned that one off. |
| 08:56.24 | starlon | You should see visscript-v8 |
| 08:56.25 | starlon | :D |
| 08:56.28 | starlon | Totally awesome. |
| 08:56.40 | starlon | old school JIT |
| 08:57.11 | starlon | and it uniitializes local scope variables |
| 08:57.33 | starlon | it was never tested though |
| 08:57.39 | starlon | I played with it some. |
| 08:58.17 | starlon | It was for the Linux port of Winamp's AVS plugin. |
| 08:58.32 | starlon | Now there's Milkdrop even on Android. |
| 09:00.42 | starlon | LibVisual's author abandoned it. |
| 09:00.54 | starlon | He stuck around the irc channel, but wanted to give the project away. |
| 09:01.05 | starlon | I kind of adopted it? |
| 09:02.03 | starlon | I used it for my character LCD. 32x32 point visualizations tiled across the display, all doing the same thing. |
| 09:02.23 | starlon | blue and white |
| 09:02.58 | starlon | I posted on Crystalfontz's website that someone should do Android-DriveBay |
| 09:03.25 | starlon | Crystalfontz is a hardware shop though. They deal in raw hardware, tons of it. |
| 09:03.40 | starlon | They have an LCD Industry topic on their forum though, so who knows. :) |
| 09:04.28 | starlon | I'm going to turn OpenGL into a character display simulation. :) |
| 09:05.01 | starlon | Was going to do it with tiles, but there's this other thing where you're accessing the pixels directly. PBO or something. |
| 09:05.11 | starlon | s/tiles/textures/ |
| 09:05.57 | starlon | Friend of mine's going to see about making StarVisuals like that. Can't wait to see what he does. |
| 09:07.05 | starlon | I have two versions. FroyVisuals and StarVisuals. One uses Canvas and the other uses GL. They get about the same fps. |
| 09:10.03 | starlon | Ah damn. IBM's stepping up the quantum computer game. |
| 09:10.20 | starlon | A new age will be born when that goes mainstream. |
| 09:22.05 | lXl | I heard about that |
| 09:22.15 | lXl | That probably wont be for a while yet |
| 09:22.38 | lXl | Right now it's about shrinking current proc architecture |
| 09:22.43 | lXl | More cores = more power |
| 09:25.36 | starlon | I think it'll be here pretty soon. |
| 09:26.54 | starlon | With the work on particle colliders, we're heading into a magnificent future. That's unless it's engulfed by the profit society at the cross roads. :\ |
| 09:27.45 | starlon | I would love to see the code processing that data. |
| 09:27.52 | starlon | I wouldn't understand it by no means. lol |
| 10:28.57 | ZorbaBeta | starlon, note that UI.Native.Tooltip has a few bugs - it doesn't work right with item comparison tooltips. I'll be fixing that, but it ain't fixed yet. |
| 10:30.18 | seebs | Wow, the cultural gap between factions is huge. |
| 10:31.40 | seebs | On Faeblight, the Defiants have a closed raid for balloon popping because they're afraid of "leechers" joining the group and not popping balloons. |
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| 10:48.46 | starlon | ZorbaBeta: Fair enough. |
| 10:57.32 | lXl | I've discriminated against selecting a unit, selecting to place a building, or being in selection mode, plus being in building mode, choses where to place a building (big black box) |
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| 11:25.42 | lXl | I have an almost full functioning framework for unit movement :D |
| 11:26.04 | lXl | With some better object management and some basic combat code, I could have the foundation for an RTS |
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| 11:42.38 | starlon | hehe |
| 12:37.26 | lXl | And.. there's combat |
| 12:47.20 | starlon | damnit, my whole world's falling apart right now :( |
| 12:47.24 | lXl | Why |
| 12:48.04 | starlon | Things aren't working that once worked and for no apparent reason. |
| 12:48.22 | starlon | I've gone through commit history trying to figure out what changed. |
| 12:48.31 | starlon | Nothing of old works either. :\ |
| 12:48.32 | lXl | I really hate that :( |
| 12:55.14 | lXl | http://sudov.im/ |
| 12:55.29 | lXl | I'm proud of myself, got a lot of functionality in today |
| 14:06.08 | Nivlix_afk | morning everyone |
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| 18:49.51 | ZorbaBeta | anyone else gonna be at GDC? :V |
| 18:54.59 | fewyn | not me! |
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| 19:18.05 | seebs | Not I. I am not actually a game developer. |
| 19:18.24 | seebs | starlon: When everything stops working, I look around for other stuff. |
| 19:18.44 | seebs | I had a horrible period trying to debug an iOS app that turned out to be "I broke something in the OS with buggy code and it needed to reboot". |
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| 22:34.28 | lXl-M | Hi o/ |
| 23:42.36 | Nivlix|work | hey lXl |
| 23:46.23 | seebs | I am not sure why, but I really have this feeling of optimism and momentum about rift addon development right now. |
| 23:47.08 | seebs | I think there's been a sort of lack-of-momentum because there were enough holes that people weren't quite able to start on stuff, and now we're starting to see things getting far enough to make MUCH more specific requests for feature changes. |
| 23:49.30 | Nivlix|work | yeah i agree, i just started working on the addons, but from looking at the API history it looks like they are making decent progress |
| 23:49.38 | Nivlix|work | seebs did you check out nivStats yet? |
| 23:51.56 | Nivlix|remote | I am currently working on an easy way to change the settings inside the LUA, thinking about moving them to a config.lua for the addon, but I have to figure out how to make that work with the includes and eveverything first. I have an idea on what needs to be done. Just need to do a little reading to figure out exactly how to do it |
| 23:52.11 | seebs | I didn't, what does it do? |
| 23:52.31 | Nivlix|remote | then i want to do a saved variables file for the addon so that I can allow them to move the frame and save the location, and possibly even make an ingame config |
| 23:52.38 | Nivlix|remote | its just a simple light weight stat bar |
| 23:52.40 | seebs | ooohh, neat. |
| 23:52.51 | Nivlix|remote | shows bag slots and money right now |
| 23:53.34 | Nivlix|remote | i know someone is attempting to port ldb, but i always liked the light weight bars over the framework, even though i may eventually go there |
| 23:53.58 | Nivlix|remote | your api docs have been a tremendous help btw |
| 23:54.06 | seebs | They aren't mine. |
| 23:54.10 | Nivlix|remote | ok |
| 23:54.13 | seebs | They're just a direct dump of the game's built-in stuff. |
| 23:54.20 | seebs | All I wrote was a formatter. |
| 23:54.20 | Nivlix|remote | let me rephrase, your dump of the docs has been a help :P |
| 23:54.40 | seebs | Yeah, that's why I wrote it -- I realized that I was getting stumped because I couldn't read the existing docs very well. |
| 23:55.27 | Nivlix|remote | yeah, the way you look at them in the game is tough, especially if you dont know the exact name of the function, to get the full list locks my client up for a good 30 seconds |
| 23:56.22 | Nivlix|remote | i want to take your dump and write a script that will break it into seperate html files, and then see if there is a way that cairenn can do like a mass import into the wiki :P |
| 23:56.49 | Nivlix|remote | i know you said there are manual edits that have to be done though |
| 23:57.49 | seebs | oooh |
| 23:57.57 | seebs | You know, separate HTML files wouldn't even be hard. |
| 23:59.27 | Nivlix|remote | i jsut figure if we could split it into seperate files, then it should be easy to get it up on the wiki in the same way the stuff is already there |
