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| 03:03.54 | seebs | Heh, I found a magma elemental that can be butchered for leather. |
| 03:04.16 | lXl | Where? |
| 03:04.16 | seebs | I love what these bugs reveal about the internals. |
| 03:04.22 | seebs | Spawn of Centius in stonefield. |
| 03:04.37 | lXl | AMG I'm in stonefield |
| 03:04.40 | seebs | When they made a lot of elementals mineable, apparently they got a couple of them interestingly wrong. |
| 03:05.06 | lXl | Who are you right now |
| 03:05.14 | seebs | Queli the Red Handed <AFK> |
| 03:05.25 | seebs | I'm just on my way to Scarlet Gorge. |
| 03:06.01 | seebs | I'm running around mining lowbie stuff so I can get metal patterns. |
| 03:06.17 | seebs | And so I can become insanely wealthy. |
| 03:06.35 | lXl | I transferred over 100p with this char |
| 03:06.54 | lXl | Not anything huge but I'm not worrying about money until 50+ |
| 03:09.18 | lXl | Doublemancer is nice for leveling |
| 03:10.07 | lXl | Pretty much infinite mana, always have health topped off |
| 03:10.13 | lXl | Single target, you never have to stop |
| 03:34.23 | seebs | Doublemancer? |
| 03:34.29 | lXl | Pyro/chloro |
| 03:34.33 | lXl | Double the fun :) |
| 03:34.46 | seebs | I actually use trimancer as a soloing spec sometimes. |
| 03:34.56 | seebs | 21 necro, 13 chloro, 32 pyro. |
| 03:34.58 | lXl | What other -mancer is there? |
| 03:35.00 | lXl | Oh yeah |
| 03:35.21 | lXl | What's the 21 necro? |
| 03:35.31 | seebs | Tank pet over level 30. |
| 03:35.35 | lXl | Ah |
| 03:36.05 | lXl | With my stragegy its nuke an enemy down then heal up the couple of hits I take |
| 03:36.15 | seebs | Yah, that's basically the same. |
| 03:36.27 | lXl | Necro would dfinitely be nice for the higher levels |
| 03:36.49 | lXl | I imagine mages lose their tank in 30s? |
| 03:37.06 | seebs | No, you just need >20 points in the corresponding soul. |
| 03:37.16 | lXl | Lose their ability to take hits on their own |
| 03:37.36 | lXl | In 20s every class is alright |
| 03:39.10 | seebs | You can always do okay for ordinary solo stuff, but a pet really helps for elites. |
| 03:44.29 | lXl | Lol the 3rd soul I had was necro |
| 03:46.34 | seebs | My best mage soloing build thus far has been ele/chloro. That earth elemental gets pretty solidly tanky past 21 points ele. |
| 03:47.37 | seebs | I do not get MMO players. |
| 03:47.56 | seebs | Why is it a point of personal honor for so many rift players to hate ToR and try to convince people not to try it? |
| 03:49.21 | lXl | For SW it's fine |
| 03:49.32 | lXl | For MMO players, it's not that great of an MMO |
| 03:50.15 | seebs | I suppose. I just don't actually care that much. Fine by me if people like a game I don't. |
| 03:51.59 | lXl | It's just heavily storyline driven, it really doesn't fit into the MMO model as much |
| 03:52.31 | lXl | Then again, WoW headed that direction in WotLK... :\ |
| 03:53.52 | lXl | WoW had made good progress with phasing and organizing dungeon groups but it seems like it's going too far these days |
| 03:55.10 | seebs | It makes some sense to try to make the solo play more storyline driven, since people spend so much time on it. |
| 03:55.44 | lXl | Yeah, and I think it was a great direction for TOR to go in] |
| 03:56.02 | lXl | But it isn't going to replace WoW, or Rift, or come remotely close to filling an MMO niche |
| 03:56.36 | seebs | I gotta go assemble another bookshelf. We're redoing our living room by bits and pieces. Back later. |
| 03:56.43 | lXl | Sweet |
| 03:57.01 | ZorbaTHut | I'm planning on treating it like a single-player game with a really huge co-op mode |
| 03:57.09 | lXl | Right |
| 03:57.21 | seebs | Heh. |
| 03:57.31 | lXl | As I said, that's a really good advancement for TOR |
| 03:57.40 | seebs | This right after I commented in one of the ToR threads that I'd be shocked if there were no Rift devs playing it. |
| 03:58.16 | lXl | But then there's people that think people will replace Rift with TOR when that won't happen. |
| 03:59.05 | lXl | GW2 may be a threat though |
| 05:31.57 | starlon | orly |
| 05:38.56 | seebs | Could be. Hard to say -- the b2p model changes stuff. |
| 05:39.22 | seebs | I still haven't gotten a clear picture of how the combat is "more active", but some people were pitching combat as more like something like Oblivion or a FPS-type game. |
| 05:44.19 | seebs | You know what would be an awesome statistic to have? % of accounts that have ever logged in with at least one addon active. |
| 05:44.43 | seebs | I'd guess it's under 50%, but it'd be really interesting to find out, just 'cuz of the endless debates about which group is the vocal minority. |
| 05:44.56 | seebs | ... I'd also love to know how many of the people who said they hated addons are now running them, but that'd be a privacy issue. |
| 05:50.17 | starlon | hehe |
| 05:50.50 | starlon | Throw a little addition after their name -- "<Addon User>" |
| 05:51.02 | starlon | ingame I mean |
| 05:52.00 | starlon | or "addon n00b" |
| 05:52.17 | starlon | "elitist jerk" |
| 05:53.06 | starlon | "boobies" |
| 05:54.51 | starlon | so cooldowns are a pain to track |
| 05:57.10 | starlon | I want this addon to tell how fast you are to responding to cooldown expiration, but the global cooldown taints the data. |
| 06:07.57 | starlon | Some people on Facebook are crazier than I could ever be. |
| 06:10.16 | seebs | I once had some naive hope of making Usenet Kook of the Month, but I had no chance. |
| 06:10.24 | seebs | I still hope to one day produce a page that crank.net rates as "illucid". |
| 06:20.52 | lXl | I saw boobies |
| 06:21.22 | lXl | B2p? |
| 06:25.06 | starlon | sonz of bitches network breakage... lastnight my connection severed several times, blocking me from working on addons. |
| 06:25.23 | lXl | LAN or WAN? |
| 06:25.27 | starlon | WAN |
| 06:25.30 | lXl | Bleh :( |
| 06:25.34 | lXl | I hate that |
| 06:25.35 | starlon | nods. |
| 06:25.48 | lXl | I hate dealing with outages too |
| 06:25.56 | starlon | Yep |
| 06:26.06 | starlon | Makes me want to pull my hair out. |
| 06:26.06 | lXl | I got to the point of hitting a traceroute and telling them in hitting their gateway so don't even mention my network |
| 06:26.55 | lXl | I am SO tempted to try out WINE instead of using Windows 7 |
| 06:27.33 | lXl | Half of what I use day to day has a Linux build, mostly what doesn't work is games and Netflix |
| 06:30.47 | starlon | reason I say that is cause it's starting it up tonight too :( |
| 06:31.34 | starlon | I dumped Netflix cause it doesn't work in Linux. Amazon movies work fine, and I pay for only what I watch. |
| 06:31.58 | lXl | If I pay for what I watch I'd be wasting money |
| 06:32.03 | starlon | hehe |
| 06:32.08 | starlon | I don't watch many |
| 06:32.14 | starlon | maybe one every few months |
| 06:32.20 | starlon | or a series |
| 06:32.43 | starlon | I stopped watching True Blood though. |
| 06:32.47 | lXl | I leave series running all the time, usually half watching them |
| 06:32.53 | starlon | Got tied up doing other things. |
| 06:32.59 | starlon | hehe |
| 06:33.22 | starlon | One thing about series though is Netflix had one without the second part. |
| 06:33.35 | lXl | It relaxes me having the noise and stuff |
| 06:33.39 | starlon | Or third. The third was actually the second. |
| 06:33.47 | starlon | I like it quiet. |
| 06:34.03 | starlon | Bugs won't shut up though. |
| 06:34.13 | starlon | Buzzing in the ear. |
| 06:34.21 | lXl | I can't |
| 06:34.31 | starlon | heh |
| 06:34.33 | lXl | I get issues with tinnitus |
| 06:34.46 | lXl | So absolute silence ends up being louder |
| 06:37.59 | seebs | I saw research on that recently. |
| 06:38.11 | seebs | Apparently it's the brain trying to compensate for hearing loss by amplifying "until there's signal". |
| 06:38.23 | lXl | That's part of it |
| 06:38.29 | starlon | heh |
| 06:38.52 | seebs | Now that it's possible to, say, monitor specific neurons and see what they're doing, research is going better. :) |
| 06:39.03 | lXl | Tinnitus can be caused by hearing damage. Certain frequencies get essentially killed, so the brain overcompensates and those frequencies end up ringing.. loud |
| 06:39.04 | seebs | I have Netflix because it works on at least one Linux -- android. :) |
| 06:39.17 | seebs | And actually, the Wii has it now, so we can watch it there. |
| 07:08.15 | starlon | some abilities seem to share cooldowns, not just the gcd |
| 07:10.40 | starlon | they're kind of confusing, the cooldowns |
| 07:15.19 | seebs | Yes, there's a number of those. Taunts, I think, usually share a cooldown, and so do miens. |
| 07:15.20 | lXl | 14KB/sec downloading Ubuntu :( |
| 07:15.44 | seebs | Try Slackware if that's your download speed. :P |
| 07:15.54 | lXl | Actually, just remembered I wanted to try Arch |
| 07:16.03 | seebs | I was sort of positively impressed by Arch. |
| 07:16.17 | seebs | Not as automatically-configured as Ubuntu, but configuration is through human-editable files for the most part. |
| 07:16.38 | lXl | And Slackware? Really? |
| 07:16.44 | seebs | It sometimes surprised me, but I never thought it was being stupid. :P |
| 07:16.53 | seebs | Slackware's still out there, and still well-liked for what it does. |
| 07:17.11 | lXl | Last Slackware I used was SUSE way back |
| 07:17.21 | seebs | SuSE isn't slackware. |
| 07:17.43 | lXl | It's a branch no? |
| 07:17.52 | seebs | Not that I know of. |
| 07:18.23 | seebs | Hmm. I am trying to figure out which things I need to mine to learn the other two metal patterns. |
| 07:18.35 | seebs | I think the lowbie one is copper, and the next-to-highest one is cobalt or titanium. |
| 07:18.41 | lXl | The almighty Wikipedia cites it as originally branching from Slackware |
| 07:18.45 | seebs | Huh. |
| 07:18.51 | lXl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions |
| 07:18.56 | lXl | shrug |
| 07:19.04 | seebs | I used actual-slackware at one point for a writing project. |
| 07:19.21 | seebs | I did a brief series on Linux-for-cheap. Did the entire series on an 8-year-old laptop with a broken screen. |
| 07:20.00 | lXl | Speaking of screens, considering grabbing this http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=146699&CatId=1449 |
| 07:20.29 | lXl | And rigging up a mini linux to run on it through something like Beagleboard or Atom |
| 07:20.58 | seebs | Interesting. |
| 07:21.07 | seebs | FWIW, I consider tigerdirect to be spamming scum, so I avoid them. |
| 07:21.21 | lXl | I want to ultimately install it in my car but for 120$ for the screen, plus another ~100$ for components, I can make really cheap dummy terminals |
| 07:21.47 | lXl | Kind of like a bulky ghetto tablet |
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| 07:24.16 | lXl | And ARCH torrent only 1.2MB :( |
| 07:24.19 | lXl | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.39 | seebs | Seems like it'd be cheaper to just get a nook color. |
| 07:25.06 | lXl | To use as a car mounted system? |
| 07:25.34 | lXl | I have a touchpad, I don't need a tablet I want to work on putting together a touch interface |
| 07:26.03 | lXl | And most car touchscreens are integrated in DVD systems, or even if not they still run over 200$ |
| 07:29.32 | seebs | Well, it's cheaper than the parts, and it's already running a touchscreen-aware linux install. :) |
| 07:30.25 | lXl | I'd rather break apart and mount a 120$ screen than try to hack a Nook :\ |
| 07:30.37 | lXl | If I break the screen I still have the other components |
| 07:39.49 | lXl | Why do OSes ask for your time zone by city? |
| 07:40.03 | lXl | I know my time zone IDK what the hell city out of a random list is also CST |
| 07:44.36 | seebs | I think because more people know where they live than what time zone they're in. |
| 07:44.49 | seebs | People are dumb. |
| 07:44.50 | lXl | How do you not know your timezone :\ |
| 07:45.05 | kreiri | with daylight savings? easy |
| 07:45.35 | seebs | Quick check: Are you in CST or CDT? |
| 07:46.11 | kreiri | a what? I'm in Eastern Europe. |
| 07:46.18 | seebs | I was asking IXI. |
| 07:46.28 | lXl | CST |
| 07:46.41 | seebs | Huh, seems that's right. |
| 07:46.49 | seebs | I can never remember which is which. |
| 07:48.29 | lXl | Wait are we considered in daylight savings? |
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| 07:48.42 | lXl | I know my time zone but daylight savings always fucks me over |
| 07:54.32 | lXl | Dear god Arch is very specific |
| 08:21.28 | starlon | Bleh RotLatency's not what I started out to write |
| 08:22.01 | starlon | You can create an endless cooldown by spamming butons |
| 08:22.17 | starlon | a continuous one I should say |
| 08:24.07 | starlon | anything that shares a cooldown are annoyances entirely |
| 08:24.24 | starlon | grammar. |
| 08:26.48 | starlon | test1 test2 test1 test3 |
| 08:26.56 | starlon | s/test1/test4/g |
| 08:27.07 | starlon | cool |
| 08:30.39 | lXl | The requested URL /pub/linux/docs/man-pages/ was not found on this server. :( |
| 08:37.57 | starlon | s/test1/test4/ |
| 08:38.03 | starlon | test1 test2 test1 test3 |
| 08:38.04 | starlon | s/test1/test4/ |
| 08:38.11 | starlon | k |
| 09:06.13 | starlon | I really need to generate some documentation from these library files. |
| 09:06.18 | starlon | at least the plugins |
| 09:06.35 | starlon | I'm telling my users to read code :) |
| 09:07.02 | starlon | not something to be smiling about though I suppose |
| 09:38.12 | lXl | I'm making a Linux |
| 09:38.32 | starlon | What's the name? |
| 09:38.36 | lXl | LFS |
| 09:38.39 | lXl | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org |
| 09:38.43 | starlon | Ah |
| 10:02.17 | lXl | Dear god this takes a long time to install |
| 10:03.03 | starlon | I blame it on the user. |
| 10:03.44 | lXl | Building GCC is going to take 47X as long as building binutils and that took a few minutes... |
| 10:03.52 | lXl | Nothing I can do to speed that along. |
| 10:04.08 | starlon | lol |
| 10:04.48 | starlon | I guess updating the kernel is also from scratch. hehe |
| 10:05.05 | starlon | Well with Gentoo too I guess |
| 10:05.07 | lXl | ? |
| 10:05.15 | starlon | Well not really |
| 10:05.32 | starlon | I'm saying LFS has to update the kernel from scratch |
| 10:05.39 | starlon | has to compile it :P |
| 10:05.47 | lXl | Everything is compiled by hand |
| 10:05.52 | starlon | nods. |
| 10:11.09 | lXl | Great, the OS partition remained unchanged |
| 10:11.22 | lXl | My mount point and user got erased, all my progress remained though |
| 10:12.54 | lXl | Oh.. I think I booted to the CD |
| 10:12.55 | lXl | lol |
| 10:13.56 | lXl | No wonder my changes didn't stick, they did |
| 10:29.14 | starlon | Hey so a Spotify Rift Connect thingy hickle would be interesting. |
| 10:29.35 | starlon | hickles. |
| 10:29.39 | lXl | ? |
| 10:29.50 | starlon | Rift Connect + Spotify |
| 10:30.02 | starlon | play music |
| 10:30.18 | starlon | lol |
| 10:30.20 | starlon | maybe not |
| 11:02.01 | lXl | Oh |
| 11:02.46 | lXl | For what though? |
| 11:02.59 | lXl | There's really nothing to plug into with spotify |
| 11:03.22 | lXl | Unless you just want to control spotify from within Rift, but then why not iTunes and WMP and Pandora and... etc |
| 11:03.51 | kreiri | winamp + winamp global hotkeys |
| 11:04.33 | kreiri | or whatever player for your chosen OS with global hotkeys |
| 11:05.58 | Hyperi | You can tweak global hotkeys for Spotify aswell |
| 11:06.06 | Hyperi | And well, it does support media keyboards :P |
| 11:06.36 | Hyperi | and if you are going to say that you want "Now Playing: ..." scripts, I must answer: Please shoot yourself :P |
| 11:08.52 | starlon | lol |
| 11:09.07 | starlon | someone suggested this on the forum |
| 11:09.12 | starlon | me lol |
| 11:09.19 | starlon | tilts. |
| 11:10.04 | lXl | pushes back into place |
| 11:18.31 | lXl | Third time compiling GCC.. this takes like 20 minutes per make :( |
| 11:26.58 | starlon | I write some stupid stuff sometimes. I ignore it, but it's there. Stupid little tidbits of stupidness all stupified and stupiphonic. |
| 11:46.30 | starlon | Don't you hate it when you tag a release after fixing a bug, only to turn around and find another bug? |
| 11:47.54 | starlon | At least the bad bugs gone. |
| 11:48.04 | starlon | s/bugs/bug is/ |
| 11:48.59 | starlon | lXl: What machine are you installing this on? |
| 11:50.16 | lXl | VirtualBox |
| 11:54.32 | lXl | It's a 2600k |
| 12:04.29 | starlon | ah |
| 12:07.07 | lXl | Yay, got everything moving along now |
| 12:08.56 | starlon | is mynumber .. "" faster than tostring(mynumber)? |
| 12:09.13 | starlon | is not going to test it. just curious |
| 13:03.34 | starlon | http://i.imgur.com/dENhw.gif |
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| 13:48.19 | starlon | nobody uses the training dummies |
| 14:35.16 | lXl | Is there a good parser yet? |
| 14:42.54 | starlon | Hmm? |
| 14:43.13 | kreiri | combat log parser |
| 14:43.17 | starlon | ah |
| 14:43.40 | lXl | I mean, I never really used the dummies because there really weren't good parsers before |
| 14:44.21 | kreiri | I don't use dummies because they keep you in combat forever |
| 14:44.28 | lXl | Yep |
| 14:44.45 | kreiri | by the time you get out of combat and parser stops parsing, your dps is lower by at least hundred |
| 14:44.46 | lXl | And parsers counted combat flag not action |
| 14:47.10 | kreiri | WoW's dummies were annoying because stopping dps for whatever reason (example: Evocation) dropped you out of combat, splitting combats in your parser |
| 14:49.05 | kreiri | the possible solution for in-game parsers in Rift could be /stopcombat slash command |
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