| 00:00.42 | seebs | pretty sure table.sort takes an optional comparison function. |
| 00:00.57 | Marru_Home | how would that help? |
| 00:01.22 | seebs | The comparison function defines the order. So the resulting table is sorted in whatever order you define. |
| 00:01.57 | seebs | table.sort(items, function(a, b) if a.stack or 1 > b.stack or 1 then return 1 elseif a.stack or 1 < b.stack or 1 then return -1 else return 0 end end) |
| 00:02.01 | seebs | or something to that effect. |
| 00:02.14 | seebs | ... and there, btw, you see why I want zorba to change item.stack to be present even when it's 1 |
| 00:02.17 | Marru_Home | hmm, i think i could use that |
| 00:05.33 | seebs | The beauty is that it can be any function you can define that operates on the objects in question. |
| 00:05.48 | Marru_Home | yeah |
| 00:06.20 | seebs | If what you really want is a list sorted alphabetically by rarity, except that all the things where the primary color of the icon is red go at the front of the list anyway, you can do that. |
| 00:06.31 | seebs | (... well, maybe, I don't think we have image manipulation tools yet.) |
| 00:07.39 | Marru_Home | agh |
| 00:07.56 | Marru_Home | its not changing anything... |
| 00:07.57 | Marru_Home | ok |
| 00:07.59 | Marru_Home | so |
| 00:08.08 | Marru_Home | heres the thing |
| 00:08.20 | Marru_Home | i have a table full of frames |
| 00:08.30 | Marru_Home | named Category.Armor Category.Weapon etc |
| 00:08.42 | Marru_Home | and i want them to list in the order i created them |
| 00:08.46 | Marru_Home | and its not doing that |
| 00:08.50 | seebs | ahh |
| 00:08.56 | Marru_Home | so i tried adding Category.Armor.pos = 1 |
| 00:08.56 | seebs | Okay, there's a million ways to do this. |
| 00:08.58 | Marru_Home | etc |
| 00:09.01 | seebs | Heck, there's probably even a good way. |
| 00:09.02 | Marru_Home | and sorting em by pos |
| 00:09.09 | Marru_Home | and it didn't do anything |
| 00:09.19 | seebs | What I usually do is leave the objects in a { key = value } pair table. And then have ANOTHER table. |
| 00:09.30 | seebs | Which is a standard ordered table, containing only the keys. In order. |
| 00:09.53 | Marru_Home | how would u do that in this case? |
| 00:10.42 | seebs | Not sure. My brain's sorta gone to fuzz today. |
| 00:11.03 | seebs | Since your question is not about the internal representation I should use for item rarities and colors, I am unable to answer it. :P |
| 00:11.55 | Marru_Home | lol ok |
| 00:29.57 | Marru_Home | is there a way to clear textures? |
| 01:18.14 | Marru_Home | can we not use items yet? |
| 01:21.02 | seebs | Not yet. |
| 01:21.15 | seebs | It's because Zorba hates us. :( |
| 01:21.30 | Marru_Home | :( |
| 01:24.03 | seebs | I have got to figure out why we keep running out of groceries. |
| 01:24.16 | seebs | I think this is closely related to the thing where everyone in the house eats pretty much every day. |
| 02:03.26 | Marru_Home | zorba.... please let us use items thru api? :) |
| 02:04.28 | seebs | I imagine it'll happen eventually, or at the least, we'll get hooks that let us register frames securely, like we got for unitframes and the like. |
| 02:04.42 | seebs | But I think there would be exploit issues with Command.Item.Use(). :) |
| 02:04.52 | Marru_Home | register frames securely? |
| 02:05.02 | Marru_Home | and he could make it have to be a mouse click thing |
| 02:05.04 | seebs | There's stuff you can configure only when not in combat, to avoid automations. |
| 02:05.24 | Marru_Home | oh right |
| 02:11.47 | Marru_Home | i think as far as avoiding automation exploits anything like use or cast or w/e should just be only available within user interaction sections like key press or mouse click etc |
| 02:13.19 | seebs | Sure, but we also have to be able to keep someone from, say, making a button which uses the Best Potion. Unless they decide they want that. |
| 02:14.15 | Marru_Home | just not allow addons to change the resulting effect while in secure mode |
| 02:14.57 | Marru_Home | sounds complicated to implement but totally doable |
| 02:16.19 | seebs | Is there color-coding in print output? |
| 02:35.06 | starlon | wobbles. |
| 03:21.50 | starlon | bangs head on nail. |
| 03:23.29 | starlon | Something about Ubuntu is different than in Fedora, and whatever that is has this program crashing. |
| 03:24.43 | starlon | blames Windows. |
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| 03:53.35 | lXl | Well they are both on different Linux branches |
| 03:53.54 | seebs | Yeah, but it's ALWAYS windows. |
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| 04:05.22 | starlon | yep |
| 04:16.23 | hp94 | linux is a pretty cool guy, he open sources and doesn't afraid of anything |
| 04:19.14 | starlon | I wish he'd tell me how to fix this bug. |
| 04:19.44 | lXl | O dpm |
| 04:19.49 | lXl | I don't think he can |
| 04:20.04 | starlon | :( |
| 04:20.27 | lXl | At least I have a huge bowl of freshly popped popcorn |
| 04:20.45 | starlon | I've kind of given up on it for now. I think it's due to something in the build. |
| 04:21.24 | starlon | Because these dynamically loaded libraries are causing memory corruption when opened |
| 04:21.39 | lXl | What are you making? |
| 04:21.47 | starlon | working on libvisual_avs |
| 04:21.59 | lXl | Huh? |
| 04:22.10 | starlon | It's a visualization library framework. |
| 04:22.22 | starlon | Provides tools to write visualizations. |
| 04:22.32 | lXl | Ah |
| 04:24.03 | starlon | libvisual_avs is a clone of Winamp's Advanced Visualizations Studio |
| 04:24.07 | starlon | AVS |
| 04:24.22 | starlon | well not a direct clone. |
| 04:24.23 | starlon | hehe |
| 04:24.40 | starlon | it can't load AVS files at any rate. |
| 04:24.51 | lXl | Oh |
| 04:27.14 | hp94 | Quick Q: How do I unzip files while in linux (specifically http://am4wuhz3zifexz5u.onion/)? |
| 04:27.30 | hp94 | *specifically backtrack |
| 04:27.41 | lXl | Virus tbh |
| 04:28.07 | lXl | Is it an actual zip file? |
| 04:28.16 | hp94 | no that was the wrong ctrl-v |
| 04:28.44 | starlon | o.O |
| 04:29.46 | starlon | ctrl-v's his porn stash. |
| 04:30.02 | lXl | Everyone paste your last copy |
| 04:30.11 | lXl | Mine must be an image I can't ctrl v :( |
| 04:30.24 | hp94 | can't fit 500TB of porn onto my hard drive |
| 04:30.43 | Cairenn | Why are we pasting our last copy in here? |
| 04:30.46 | lXl | Why not |
| 04:30.52 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:30.53 | lXl | hp94 did his by accident |
| 04:30.57 | Cairenn | as good a reason as any |
| 04:31.01 | lXl | HAHA |
| 04:31.07 | starlon | :) |
| 04:31.11 | lXl | Just curious what weird things people are getting into |
| 04:31.28 | lXl | So.. theres .zip in Linux? Whaa? |
| 04:31.34 | Cairenn | given that my last was a business email response ... no? |
| 04:31.40 | lXl | LOL |
| 04:31.54 | lXl | Share us your Zam secrets! |
| 04:31.56 | hp94 | Business email? |
| 04:31.59 | Cairenn | noz! |
| 04:32.02 | lXl | :( |
| 04:32.07 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:32.15 | lXl | Come on, we know you must have Warcraft 2 infos or something |
| 04:32.21 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:32.21 | lXl | WoW 2 |
| 04:32.36 | Cairenn | was gonna say, Warcraft 2 infoz is old |
| 04:32.43 | lXl | WoW 2 |
| 04:32.49 | hp94 | I have warcraft 2 source codez |
| 04:32.58 | hp94 | but I can't copy/paste it all here |
| 04:33.24 | TMc51 | I have the source code to Warcraft 4, 5, and 6, as well as WoW, and Titan. :o |
| 04:33.36 | hp94 | And Titan? |
| 04:33.46 | lXl | You don't have Warcraft 7 code yet? |
| 04:34.04 | TMc51 | Warcraft 6 ends with the entire universe being destroyed. There will be no 7. |
| 04:34.08 | hp94 | Titan = WVII |
| 04:34.17 | lXl | WVII? |
| 04:34.25 | lXl | There will be a WC7 |
| 04:34.39 | starlon | I've got code for Gorrilas |
| 04:34.40 | hp94 | WVII = World Var II |
| 04:34.50 | hp94 | I've got the source code for the Matrix |
| 04:34.52 | lXl | WC7: Arthas rides Deathwing out of the Emerald Dream |
| 04:34.58 | hp94 | It's actually programmed in Visual Basic |
| 04:35.00 | lXl | Because Blizzard ran out of recycles that make sense |
| 04:35.04 | TMc51 | WC7 is being called Starcraft 3. |
| 04:35.32 | lXl | Speaking of.. I haven't even kept up with WoW |
| 04:35.38 | lXl | I wonder if they have another Onyxia |
| 04:36.32 | hp94 | No, but every expansion pack has Naxxramas as the entry raid. Because there must always be.... a Naxrammas. |
| 04:36.43 | lXl | Cata had Nax? |
| 04:36.48 | lXl | DIdn't play it long enough to know :P |
| 04:37.12 | hp94 | I don't know, no reason to play if you can't dupe |
| 04:37.29 | lXl | I bet |
| 04:37.58 | lXl | How is Rift patch/population? |
| 04:38.17 | lXl | I just realized.. WotLK never had trolls!!!!!!! |
| 04:38.28 | lXl | It had troll mobs in some zones but no actual troll raid. |
| 04:38.51 | lXl | 3.2 should have been Zul'____ imo |
| 04:38.52 | hp94 | RIFT patch is great, don't ask about the populace |
| 04:39.00 | lXl | What about the populace? |
| 04:41.32 | hp94 | They're pretty cool too |
| 04:41.34 | hp94 | I guess |
| 04:46.00 | lXl | Same amount playing? |
| 04:55.42 | hp94 | Ask zorbagama |
| 05:01.27 | lXl | Zorbagama, that thing I said |
| 05:15.09 | lXl | Wow this is old http://nowayride.blogspot.com/ |
| 05:16.31 | lXl | (Wasn't functioning 'code') |
| 05:52.17 | seebs | heh, someone on the forums complaining about low population said that Skyrim can't possibly be affecting MMO populations. |
| 05:52.29 | seebs | "It's a single-player game, the hardcore players will beat it in a couple of days." |
| 05:52.31 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:52.40 | lXl | I never played any Elder Scrolls games. :( |
| 05:53.03 | Cairenn | seebs: obviously whoever said that isn't actually a gamer geek |
| 05:54.01 | seebs | I would guess about 70% of the gamers I know are playing Skyrim instead of pretty much anything else. |
| 05:54.07 | seebs | No way THAT could affect the population of a fantasy MMO. |
| 05:54.09 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 05:54.33 | Cairenn | and those that aren't playing Skyrim are either in the SW:TOR beta &/or in the D3 beta |
| 05:55.01 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 05:55.13 | lXl | OH YEAH I'm in ToR beta |
| 05:55.16 | seebs | And I was playing on the PTS all weekend because I was messing with addons. |
| 05:55.21 | lXl | I haven't played that in like, over a month. |
| 05:55.54 | seebs | Okay, one last trip to That Cave In Ironpine Peak. You keep getting sent further into the cave for SINGLE QUESTS. |
| 05:58.52 | lXl | I just want GW2 |
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| 06:33.41 | lXl | Steam thinks it's installed on E but that is now a CD drive... |
| 06:33.47 | lXl | Really Microsoft? |
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| 07:16.07 | starlon | So a couple of weeks ago I took a glance at the Lua API and it was all in C++. Turns out it's all in C actually. So wtf did I read? I think it was a realistic dream or something. |
| 07:56.52 | Cairenn | night all |
| 08:24.32 | Torhal | thinks starlon is becoming object-oriented. |
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| 08:36.25 | Snstr | good morning |
| 08:37.14 | starlon | hey |
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| 08:47.33 | ZorbaGama | marru, some "using items" can be done via a macro "use itemname". some can't though. |
| 08:48.31 | ZorbaGama | oh he's not even here. well if someone wants to relay that if he asks the question again, go for it :) |
| 08:48.36 | ZorbaGama | starlon, maybe you were looking at luabind? |
| 08:51.50 | starlon | that may be it :) |
| 08:51.59 | starlon | looks interesting at least |
| 08:52.18 | ZorbaGama | it's great for simple things, but it's not all that efficient and it falls over badly on complex things |
| 08:52.32 | ZorbaGama | I used to do it, but honestly the lua API is simple enough that you don't really need it |
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| 09:12.45 | starlon | so luajit is a replacement of lualib? |
| 09:13.23 | starlon | has the same headers anyways |
| 09:28.52 | ZorbaGama | yep, it's a drop-in replacement |
| 09:29.01 | ZorbaGama | identical in every way except far faster and less cross-platform |
| 09:29.45 | ZorbaGama | unless you're running on a platform that luajit doesn't support, or you want to use lua 5.2, there's basically no reason not to use luajit. |
| 09:33.33 | kreiri | does anyone here have experience with "Automation" instrument in MacOS/iOS? |
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| 14:32.31 | Snstr | oooh these lovely layering! |
| 14:32.36 | Snstr | this* |
| 14:32.39 | kreiri | ? |
| 14:33.02 | Snstr | the rift - way on layering frames gives me a headache :P |
| 14:33.14 | Snstr | need to change parents and track parents |
| 14:33.36 | Snstr | else u'll end up with layering issues since SetLayer only affects the own parnts |
| 14:33.38 | Snstr | parents* |
| 14:34.56 | Snstr | should be global layering or a custom made layer groups that u can arrange as u like |
| 14:35.45 | starlon | make more addons. noaw |
| 14:38.49 | Snstr | gonna make one that shouts random starlon quotes when u get hit |
| 14:43.44 | Snstr | why does it appear that politicians are an entirely differnt breed of humans ... are they still humans even? |
| 14:43.46 | Snstr | :p |
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| 16:17.01 | kreiri | so my project manager wants to me to check all possible variants of user input in my UI Automation test. There's only one small problem with this: "all". Guess how many variants this app (a kind of questionnaire) has. |
| 16:19.28 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 16:19.51 | seebs | Not a problem! |
| 16:20.05 | seebs | You need a countable infinity of interns to set up the countable infinity of test machines. |
| 16:20.27 | seebs | Of course, perhaps it would make sense to restrict things to inputs of finite length. |
| 16:20.52 | seebs | Figure out what the intended site bandwidth is, and how long the web server runs before timeouts, and that gives you an upper bound, roughly, on input length. |
| 16:20.57 | kreiri | there's only "choose an answer" type of questions, so it's not infinite |
| 16:21.01 | seebs | This reduces the problem to a trivial exponential ... |
| 16:21.03 | seebs | oooohhh. |
| 16:21.09 | kreiri | "only" 28 million variants |
| 16:21.14 | seebs | Wait, web-based? |
| 16:21.23 | seebs | Or is this an old-school app? |
| 16:21.28 | kreiri | iPhone |
| 16:21.35 | seebs | hmm |
| 16:21.47 | seebs | Okay, that does indeed make life a lot easier. |
| 16:21.58 | kreiri | user gets points based on the answers, and then the app calculates ~something~ |
| 16:22.01 | seebs | Let us assume for the sake of argument that your users are not running your app under a debugger. |
| 16:22.21 | seebs | Can the user move back and forth through the questions? |
| 16:22.37 | seebs | And are you including attempts to move forward without answering questions as possible inputs? |
| 16:25.55 | kreiri | It's not relevant for my test. Automation tool emulates interaction with UI. Example: var target = UIATarget.localTarget(); var navBar = target.frontMostApp().mainWindow().navigationBar(); navBar.rightButton().tap() |
| 16:26.14 | kreiri | the result is as if user tapped right button on navigation bar |
| 16:28.24 | seebs | oh, whee |
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| 22:33.54 | Snstr | uhm |
| 22:34.08 | Snstr | how do u clear a certain mark |
| 22:34.25 | Snstr | only way I see is with /clearmark and that only affects the players target |
| 22:34.43 | Snstr | any command that accepts any input? :P |
| 22:37.35 | seebs | I don't know whether there is a way to. You could apply that mark to a specific target, then clear that target's mark, maybe? |
| 22:38.53 | seebs | I wonder who I'd have to bribe to get /cast, etc., to recognize @nopony as "don't target anyone", or as removing a specified mark. |
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