| 00:48.05 | starlon | I should go stand at Occupy Wallstreet holding the sign: "I'm an idiot." |
| 00:48.18 | starlon | Tell it to the world. |
| 00:48.30 | starlon | Cause that's my biggest frustration in life. |
| 00:50.05 | Sunspots_ | You seem rather brilliant. |
| 00:50.28 | starlon | That's till you see truth. |
| 00:50.49 | starlon | I do stupid things. :) |
| 00:51.43 | Sunspots | To start with: who doesn't? |
| 00:52.00 | starlon | lol |
| 00:52.23 | Sunspots | Besides, most brilliant people are fucking insane anyway. |
| 00:52.37 | starlon | hehe |
| 00:52.51 | Shirik | <- insane |
| 00:53.00 | starlon | <- schizoaffective |
| 00:53.04 | starlon | :) |
| 00:55.27 | Sunspots | <- crazy kakorraphiaphobic |
| 00:55.35 | starlon | lol |
| 00:56.10 | Sunspots | (yes it is a word, but yes, I did actually google it) |
| 00:57.14 | starlon | hehe |
| 00:57.24 | starlon | what does it mean? |
| 00:57.48 | starlon | you're going to tell me to google it |
| 00:57.58 | starlon | :) |
| 00:59.11 | Sunspots | It's "the fear of failure, defeat or looking bad" |
| 00:59.29 | starlon | ah |
| 00:59.32 | starlon | I have that. |
| 00:59.34 | starlon | Hehe |
| 00:59.58 | starlon | Mine's a bit more like paranoia though. |
| 01:00.09 | starlon | I worry about what people think about me. |
| 01:00.31 | starlon | Deeply heh |
| 01:00.46 | Sunspots | I think a lot of people do somewhat but I avoid a lot of stuff that I want/need to do just because of a more or less conscious fear of failing |
| 01:01.09 | starlon | nods. |
| 01:01.53 | Sunspots | I've actually read that it's one of the most proficient subconscious fears in most of us |
| 01:01.55 | starlon | Without meds mine turns into paranoia and voices. >.< I expect the worst to happen. |
| 01:03.08 | starlon | Like when I first saw my CS advisor, Dr. Tanner. I thought I was hearing his thoughts and he said something vaguely resembling "I bet he got F's." |
| 01:03.21 | Sunspots | wow |
| 01:04.40 | Sunspots | Sounds like fun! |
| 01:04.55 | starlon | You get used to it, and hardly think about it. |
| 01:05.33 | starlon | I didn't catch onto what was gone till I talked to my ex GF in a later semester. |
| 01:05.46 | starlon | s/gone/going on/ |
| 01:06.25 | starlon | bleh |
| 01:06.30 | starlon | sorry hehe |
| 01:09.48 | Sunspots | Probably time to open another porter and get working on that new release of Archimedes |
| 01:13.08 | Sunspots | This is some real beer: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/894/49036 |
| 01:13.49 | starlon | Smoked? |
| 01:14.09 | starlon | How do you smoke beer? |
| 01:14.27 | starlon | I wonder if it can be deep fried. |
| 01:14.28 | Sunspots | You could burn the barrells |
| 01:14.33 | starlon | lol |
| 01:14.46 | starlon | How much does that run? |
| 01:14.58 | Sunspots | I know some beer is made in, like, burnt whiskey caskets |
| 01:15.12 | Sunspots | casket? is that the word? |
| 01:15.13 | starlon | hehe |
| 01:15.17 | Sunspots | no |
| 01:15.18 | starlon | I think so |
| 01:15.19 | Sunspots | sorry |
| 01:15.21 | Sunspots | too much beer |
| 01:15.25 | starlon | lol |
| 01:15.38 | Sunspots | casks |
| 01:15.40 | Sunspots | that's it |
| 01:15.43 | starlon | ah |
| 01:16.01 | starlon | almost thought you meant whiskey muskets. |
| 01:16.23 | starlon | kapaow |
| 01:16.41 | Sunspots | There's a whole science in making one kind of brew in a cask from another brew |
| 01:16.51 | starlon | hehe |
| 01:16.51 | Sunspots | :P |
| 01:17.30 | Sunspots | Although I think most smokey beer is made by heavily roasted/smoked malt |
| 01:17.53 | Sunspots | "80 procent av maltet i Nils Oscar Rökporter är rökt över bokved" |
| 01:17.55 | Sunspots | exactly |
| 01:18.25 | starlon | all greek to me |
| 01:18.34 | starlon | ^_^ |
| 01:19.08 | starlon | First Greece, now Italy. Man, I think we're coming apart at the seams. |
| 01:20.46 | Sunspots | 80 percent of the malt in "Nils Oscar Rökporter" is smoked over beech wood |
| 01:20.56 | Sunspots | Yeah, the shit is coming down |
| 01:21.15 | starlon | lol |
| 01:21.32 | Sunspots | time to pack your BOBs and prep your BOL for when TSHTF |
| 01:21.41 | starlon | o.O |
| 01:21.57 | starlon | BOB BOL? |
| 01:22.01 | starlon | I got TSHTF |
| 01:22.31 | Sunspots | Basic survivalist terms, bug out bag / location |
| 01:22.36 | starlon | ah |
| 01:23.06 | Sunspots | aka a homemade bunker to sit out the time while the rest of the world goes to shit and it's safe to come out (fallout style) |
| 01:23.22 | starlon | lol |
| 01:23.25 | Sunspots | (well, once it's safe after) |
| 01:24.05 | Sunspots | I need chocolate |
| 01:24.11 | starlon | hehe |
| 01:42.53 | Sunspots | Considering to continue my grid-like raid frame project although I am pretty sure someone a bit more experienced will make it in the right way anyway... Instead of me hacking around like a fool |
| 02:06.06 | Sunspots | Only workable solution to making secure unit frames means that they will take up the same screen real estate no matter how many you are in the group :( |
| 02:06.26 | Sunspots | Big drawback |
| 02:07.26 | starlon | heh |
| 02:07.52 | starlon | you can't move a mask around? |
| 02:07.58 | starlon | hmm guess not |
| 02:08.03 | Sunspots | Not while in safe mode |
| 02:08.14 | Sunspots | you basically can't do shit with the frames |
| 02:08.23 | starlon | hehe |
| 02:08.35 | Sunspots | as to visibility/points |
| 02:08.41 | starlon | nods. |
| 02:09.45 | Sunspots | If we could make them click-through if the unit does not exist, it'd solve it |
| 02:10.04 | starlon | nods. |
| 02:14.20 | Sunspots | Is there some shorter syntax for doing something like for "if x == "foo" then y = "bar" elseif x == "bar" then y = "foo" end |
| 02:19.23 | Sunspots | Man, I don't even remember what the fuck half of my code is about |
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| 02:27.48 | starlon | o.O |
| 02:29.01 | starlon | y = x == "foo" and "bar" or x=="bar" and "foo" |
| 02:29.32 | starlon | or actuall you would want parentheces... damnit can't spell lol |
| 02:29.47 | starlon | not going to look it up either :P |
| 02:30.52 | starlon | y = (x == "foo" and "bar") or (x=="bar" and "foo") |
| 02:34.27 | Sunspots | thank you, dear! |
| 02:35.38 | Sunspots | inverting LEFT/RIGHT and TOP/BOTTOM in a weirdly thought out although seemingly working stacking system for my frames |
| 02:41.37 | starlon | heh |
| 03:22.13 | ZorbaGama | sunspots, one thing that will likely show up (no guarantees on when) is a one-frame drop out of secure mode if someone joins your party |
| 03:22.22 | ZorbaGama | so you'll have the ability to change your secure frames when that happens |
| 03:22.50 | ZorbaGama | also, y = (x == "foo" and "bar" or "foo") |
| 03:23.01 | ZorbaGama | assuming you just want toggle |
| 03:27.00 | Sunspots | oooooooooooooooh! |
| 03:27.02 | Sunspots | shiny! |
| 03:27.35 | ZorbaGama | that said, note that it might be slightly delayed to avoid certain categories of exploit |
| 03:28.34 | Sunspots | So basically, I could do something like run a function without worrying about secure mode on my LibUnitChange event (or similar) |
| 03:28.56 | ZorbaGama | no, you'd just have to wait for the secure-leave secure-enter events to fire |
| 03:29.03 | Sunspots | ah, okay |
| 03:29.06 | ZorbaGama | but those could show up in the middle of battle |
| 03:29.40 | Sunspots | That way I could take the time to reorder my units as well |
| 03:30.19 | Sunspots | for sorting by class or simply to bunch together units that are in different groups without any spaces |
| 03:35.00 | ZorbaGama | hey, here's an idea (standard "no promises" disclaimer) - what if :SetVisible() could optionally take a unit specifier, and the frame was visible if and only if the unit existed? |
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| 03:44.08 | Sunspots | oooh |
| 03:44.19 | Sunspots | That sounds interesting |
| 03:44.47 | Sunspots | What about a possibility: frames are only secure if there is an affected unit tied to it |
| 03:47.33 | ZorbaGama | that seems really iffy - taking secure frames and making them non-secure is a bit of a potential security issue :) |
| 03:47.45 | Sunspots | Yeah |
| 03:48.12 | Sunspots | I guess |
| 03:48.34 | ZorbaGama | tthere's a reason SetSecureMode is one-way ;) |
| 03:48.42 | Sunspots | Yeah |
| 04:08.18 | seebs | Zorba, is there a way to determine whether something is a valid slot identifier? |
| 04:08.36 | seebs | I ask because Utility.Item.Slot.Parse("string which is not a slot identifier") generates a usage message. |
| 04:11.01 | ZorbaGama | if you could get it from the other Utility.Item.Slot() functions, it's valid |
| 04:11.19 | seebs | Yes, but this is a non-terminating search. :) |
| 04:11.53 | seebs | I mean, I suppose in theory I can search every bag I can think of, or use Inspect.Item.List() and search the keys of that table, but... |
| 04:12.18 | seebs | The situation is that I'm trying to write something which is reasonably smart about handling a couple of possible input structures. |
| 04:12.19 | ZorbaGama | well, it depends on whether you mean "legal slot identifier" or "slot identifier that points to something valid" |
| 04:12.27 | seebs | I mean "legal slot identifier". |
| 04:12.39 | seebs | Basically, something for which Slot.Parse() wouldn't yield a usage error. :) |
| 04:13.03 | ZorbaGama | in that case, take a slot identifier like si01.001 - the first number can go from 01 through 99, the second can go from 001 through 999 |
| 04:13.09 | seebs | I want to handle tables that look like the results of Inspect.Item.Detail(). |
| 04:13.25 | seebs | But I can't think of a clean way to check whether a key is a string that could be a slot identifier. |
| 04:13.34 | ZorbaGama | yeah, there isn't really a clean way |
| 04:13.54 | ZorbaGama | even on my side of things :V |
| 04:14.05 | seebs | Proposal: Give a usage message from Slot.Parse() for zero arguments, return nil if you get an argument which is a string but you can't parse it. |
| 04:14.19 | ZorbaGama | note that you could also just catch the error |
| 04:14.21 | ZorbaGama | pcall() |
| 04:14.28 | seebs | Oooh. |
| 04:14.34 | ZorbaGama | :) |
| 04:14.36 | seebs | That may actually be worth it. |
| 04:14.46 | ZorbaGama | pcall and xpcall are good things to learn |
| 04:14.56 | seebs | Although for now, I'm just going to assume that if k,v are string,table, that's what you meant. |
| 04:15.25 | seebs | I hadn't realized that the errors in question were the sort trapped by pcall. |
| 04:16.04 | ZorbaGama | yup, there isn't really a second kind of error in lua |
| 04:16.30 | ZorbaGama | we're just providing a very long and descriptive error message, then handling it in a clever manner :) |
| 04:16.44 | seebs | Well, I just now realized that these functions are yielding an error, which my addon is reporting, not dumping text themselves. |
| 04:16.54 | seebs | ... I don't know why I didn't notice it was *my* addon name left of the usage message. |
| 04:18.35 | seebs | Very handy. |
| 04:18.47 | seebs | I now expose Library.LibBaggotry.slotspec_p(slotspec) |
| 04:18.55 | seebs | Yay prettier code. |
| 04:19.29 | ZorbaGama | it's actually a bit more complex (and extendable) than that |
| 04:19.38 | ZorbaGama | functions throw an error, which is a big string consisting of the error message and usage |
| 04:19.54 | seebs | Yes. I hadn't really comprehended this. Very pretty. |
| 04:20.04 | seebs | I was using /print TestCode |
| 04:20.06 | ZorbaGama | if that error propogates out to the code that originally called your addon, then it packages it up with a bit more information on what call spawned the error, then turns that whole bag into a System.Error event |
| 04:20.10 | seebs | And my /print, of course, uses pcall already. |
| 04:20.25 | seebs | I just wasn't paying close enough attention to the format of the results. |
| 04:20.42 | ZorbaGama | although there's a guard so that recursive System.Error event errors will eventually stop propogating new errors ;) |
| 04:21.07 | seebs | boooooring |
| 04:21.27 | seebs | I am actually quite happy with this "baggish" thing. Turns out to make all sorts of stuff really easy to write. |
| 04:21.36 | ZorbaGama | it looks like a very interesting API |
| 04:21.52 | seebs | I just remember being awed at how *USEFUL* the git "commit-ish" thing was. |
| 04:22.13 | seebs | You could use an unambiguous leading string of a commit ID, or a branch tag, or an offset from a branch tag, and Everything Just Worked. |
| 04:22.34 | seebs | So right now, anything in Baggotry that wants a "baggish" will take, among other things: |
| 04:22.36 | seebs | * A slotspect |
| 04:22.39 | seebs | slotspec, even |
| 04:22.42 | seebs | * A filter |
| 04:22.53 | seebs | * A table of {slotspec:table} relations |
| 04:23.06 | seebs | * A table of { filter, arg to call it with } relations |
| 04:23.30 | seebs | And actually, you can even mix the last two, as each item in a table is processed seperately. |
| 04:26.16 | seebs | And the iterate, find, and first things all take a baggish and yield a {slotspec:table} table that is itself a baggish. |
| 04:37.13 | Sunspots | I really haven't looked too much into the new bag API |
| 04:37.54 | seebs | It's nice. Not completely complete, but nice. |
| 04:41.18 | Sunspots | I haven't really looked into the combat or ability api either |
| 04:42.26 | Sunspots | Btw, it would be awesome with a unified addon settings addon |
| 04:42.57 | Sunspots | So that not all of us have to have reinvent our own dialogs |
| 04:44.38 | seebs | I think someone started on one. |
| 04:46.13 | Hyperi | I think seebs should sleep sometimes |
| 04:46.20 | Hyperi | Any time of a day I check in here, you're talking :P |
| 04:46.24 | seebs | Oh, I just had a nap. |
| 04:46.36 | seebs | I went swimming, was tired, napped. Decided to come play with this. |
| 04:46.43 | seebs | Gonna try to get split functionality working. |
| 04:46.45 | Hyperi | :) |
| 04:46.49 | seebs | But before I do that I gotta write the command queue. |
| 04:46.53 | Hyperi | Sleepy code = Bad code |
| 04:47.00 | Hyperi | :> |
| 04:47.03 | seebs | Which, because I love horrible puns, is going to be referred to as "Baggrounding" |
| 04:47.23 | seebs | The idea is that things that want to do a lot of item operations can submit them for inclusion in a queue which will process them over time. |
| 04:47.30 | Hyperi | Isn't split provided long time ago ? |
| 04:47.49 | Hyperi | http://lua-users.org/wiki/SplitJoin |
| 04:48.03 | seebs | Mine's for "/bag -n 1 -S -c collectible" splitting all artifacts into stacks-of-1. |
| 04:48.12 | Hyperi | ah |
| 04:50.17 | Hyperi | So what's the holdup ? |
| 04:50.29 | Hyperi | No idea how artifact data is provided though |
| 04:50.36 | seebs | Right now, writing a thing so that I can queue multiple commands |
| 04:51.06 | seebs | it'll be roughly lbag.queue(Command.Item.Move, arg1, arg2) or lbag.queue(Command.Item.Split, ...) |
| 04:51.13 | seebs | and then every update will process a command or so. |
| 04:52.47 | Hyperi | Update is done how? |
| 04:52.48 | Hyperi | Tick timer? |
| 04:52.56 | seebs | event.system.update.begin |
| 04:53.09 | Hyperi | Any way to prevent duplicate processing on same set of data? |
| 04:53.17 | Hyperi | e.g. "lock-variable" |
| 04:53.20 | seebs | Not really. |
| 04:53.29 | Hyperi | No need for iT? |
| 04:53.46 | seebs | None I know of. :) |
| 04:56.41 | seebs | WOOT! |
| 04:56.52 | seebs | It worked on the first try. I mean, the first try after the unrelated argument-order bug. |
| 04:57.02 | seebs | I can now watch the merges occur because it's one move per frame. |
| 04:57.17 | seebs | Now for... SPLITS! |
| 05:04.14 | Hyperi | :P |
| 05:06.44 | Hyperi | btw, is it possible to track certain spells and track their target already? |
| 05:07.12 | Hyperi | friend asked for addon that keeps count on how many times one has been resurrected :P |
| 05:12.18 | seebs | dammit |
| 05:12.22 | seebs | ALMOST got it. |
| 05:12.32 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.45 | seebs | Split all the orchids into stacks of 7, EXCEPT, it left me with one stack of 4 and one of 1. |
| 05:15.04 | starlon | lol |
| 05:15.31 | starlon | I've left my bags like that before. |
| 05:15.47 | starlon | is messy. |
| 05:16.20 | starlon | and totally stumped by this GD bug I installed somehow |
| 05:26.00 | seebs | woot! |
| 05:26.03 | seebs | It now works. |
| 05:26.18 | seebs | Even for crazy stuff like splitting 8 stacks of 7 and one stack of 5 into stacks of 6. |
| 05:26.47 | seebs | Although it can fail if it runs out of room, because it isn't smart enough to merge early. Hmm. |
| 05:28.08 | seebs | fixed it! |
| 05:28.13 | seebs | Okay, this is now... ACTUALLY USEFUL. |
| 05:28.42 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 05:28.57 | seebs | It should probably detect that it ran out of slots somehow, but that is starting to look Hard. |
| 05:29.16 | Hyperi | cant get bagsizes |
| 05:29.41 | Hyperi | or even names to named array for sizes? |
| 05:29.44 | seebs | Inspect.Item.List(Utility.Item.Slot.Inventory()) <-- you can check how many false you get |
| 05:30.00 | Hyperi | that should work? |
| 05:30.11 | seebs | .List shows empty slots as false. |
| 05:30.35 | seebs | So I can do it. In theory. |
| 05:30.55 | Hyperi | ...and in practice ;) |
| 05:39.45 | seebs | Okay, ready to upload as "beta" addons. |
| 05:45.50 | seebs | yayyyy |
| 05:46.03 | seebs | By next week my artifact auctionating will hurt SO MUCH LESS. |
| 05:46.13 | seebs | And materials, and so on. |
| 05:47.24 | starlon | lol |
| 05:47.43 | seebs | srsly |
| 05:47.54 | seebs | Have you ever tried to auction 200 artifacts singly? |
| 05:48.22 | seebs | Like the little guy on Fantasy Island says, "ZE PAIN! ZE PAIN!" |
| 05:49.14 | starlon | bleh I bet I just broke my repo |
| 05:50.12 | seebs | I need a way to transfer BACK from PTS after buying the T1 raid gear for 1s. |
| 05:51.06 | starlon | oh damn I didn't. |
| 05:51.12 | starlon | lol |
| 05:51.26 | starlon | it'll pop up next time I push a commit |
| 05:51.36 | seebs | I hold a number of records at work of the form "most distructive error ever". |
| 05:51.45 | starlon | hehe |
| 05:51.53 | seebs | I was the one who found the bug that would cause git to *completely lose* all record of the existence of a branch. |
| 05:52.03 | seebs | Not a bug in git, mind, a bug in some wrapper script. |
| 05:52.04 | starlon | lol |
| 05:52.17 | seebs | It would sit and do nothing. It was waiting for input. If you hit ^D, it would wipe out any nearby branches. |
| 05:52.29 | starlon | ouch |
| 05:54.07 | seebs | I laugh at headhunters because there are not many jobs where people would put up with my astounding error rate. |
| 05:54.26 | seebs | But here, they also note that I have probably increased net productivity 5-10% across the entire team at least once or twice. :) |
| 05:55.33 | starlon | :) |
| 06:07.31 | starlon | boblble. |
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| 06:25.20 | Sunspots | Click casting almost implemented |
| 06:25.29 | Sunspots | (customisable) |
| 06:33.12 | seebs | woo! |
| 06:36.23 | starlon | nice |
| 06:37.11 | starlon | Don't you hate it when you fix a bug, commit the changes, then suddenly the bug casts unstealth? |
| 06:39.37 | seebs | heh |
| 06:52.16 | seebs | Rift is SO dying. It's sort of quiet at 11PM server time the weekend that Skyrim came out. Yup. Dying. |
| 06:54.36 | starlon | Oh right. My hardware's all dying. |
| 06:54.40 | starlon | I get it. |
| 06:54.58 | starlon | I'll blame all bugs on that from now on. |
| 06:55.27 | starlon | I do have a new power supply here. I just need to install it. |
| 06:55.55 | starlon | Which will require a haul across the house. |
| 07:03.49 | seebs | Yay, more people discovering the bug in autoflag. *sigh* |
| 07:03.56 | seebs | I really wish that would get permanently fixed. |
| 07:16.04 | Sunspots | 8am, time to sleep! |
| 07:16.55 | Sunspots | (also, click-targeting/using/casting is ready, yay) |
| 07:21.18 | seebs | I showed off Baggotry to beloved spouse. Who thought it was awesome. |
| 07:21.28 | seebs | Watching the stacks shuffle into place really is sorta fun. |
| 08:02.42 | starlon | hehe |
| 08:58.45 | Cairenn | night all |
| 09:00.43 | starlon | too cold with the fan, too humid without it |
| 09:01.07 | starlon | I think it's humidity anyways. It's miserable. lol |
| 09:01.21 | starlon | Beats living in a cave. |
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| 09:47.39 | starlon | Is Skyrim on PC? |
| 09:47.46 | starlon | I thought that was a PS3 game. |
| 09:48.22 | seebs | PC also. |
| 09:48.30 | starlon | Is it an MMO? |
| 09:48.44 | Sling | its offline |
| 09:48.48 | starlon | oh |
| 09:48.54 | Sling | but its quite massive |
| 09:48.56 | starlon | heh |
| 09:49.08 | seebs | I am told that it's more console-like than a lot of PC games. |
| 09:49.24 | Sling | yea i tried it but i kept ending up killing quest npc's |
| 09:49.33 | Sling | maybe ill give it another shot today |
| 09:49.37 | Sling | not literally then |
| 09:59.03 | Torhal | installs Skyrim on starlon. |
| 10:04.47 | starlon | All facts lead to one conclusion: Torhal's a bot who thinks I'm a computer. |
| 10:06.27 | starlon | ugh it's late |
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| 11:10.01 | Snstr | any idea how (if .. ) I can assign a function AND a macro to a mouse click event? |
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| 11:16.27 | seebs | For the most part, so far as I can tell, things that are event handlers in rift can take multiple event handlers. |
| 11:16.44 | seebs | If you can't make that work, you might be able to make the macro evaluate some lua and also do whatever else it was going to do. |
| 11:16.57 | seebs | Just have a /eval slashcommand. :) |
| 11:40.27 | ZorbaGama | snstr, the only way to accomplish this right now is to put a "script SomeLuaFunction()" in the macro |
| 11:40.50 | ZorbaGama | I've thought about having support for both, but it'd be a ton of work and I'm happy with the somewhat hacky script callback solution :) |
| 11:41.19 | seebs | Is /script already in the base interface? |
| 11:41.38 | ZorbaGama | yeah, it's been there forever :) |
| 11:41.50 | seebs | Neat. |
| 11:42.42 | seebs | So I thought about that command throttle thing, and I have a tentative solution in LibBaggotry. |
| 11:43.00 | seebs | Which is that instead of actually issuing commands, I shove them in a queue, and I have an update handler which runs the first command in the queue every frame. |
| 11:43.17 | seebs | This has what turns out to be a stupendously cool side-effect, which is that restacking operations are *animated*. |
| 11:43.48 | ZorbaGama | I'm planning to add some kind of command queueing in the future to deal better with the throttle - in fact, that may simply become the default |
| 11:44.03 | seebs | It's at least reasonably trivial to work around "well enough". |
| 11:44.03 | ZorbaGama | but it introduces some messy questions about how errors get propogated |
| 11:44.19 | ZorbaGama | and I haven't come up with a sufficiently general solution yet |
| 11:44.31 | seebs | Yeah. All sorts of issues because you can't just let one thread block while the rest of the UI continues. :) |
| 11:44.39 | ZorbaGama | yep :) |
| 11:45.00 | seebs | But I'm happy enough, I can do any reasonable inventory task and not notice any command throttle, so Good Enough. |
| 11:45.13 | seebs | I am fine with the risk that if you start manually moving things during operations, things will go hilariously wrong. |
| 11:45.47 | ZorbaGama | yeah, the bottleneck is actually pretty high. and the behavior will simply drop your framerate a bit to throttle you - not ideal, but at least guaranteeably correct :) |
| 11:45.54 | seebs | It is! |
| 11:46.23 | seebs | This is way too much fun to play with. Just shuffling stacks around is amusing. :) |
| 11:46.34 | seebs | Ooooh. |
| 11:46.39 | seebs | I just thought of an improvement. |
| 11:47.17 | seebs | Which is that I should return the set of stacked or merged items. |
| 11:47.47 | seebs | So if you do .split(all my crafting materials, 10), you get back a list of all the resulting stacks of crafting materials. Because you might want it. |
| 11:48.15 | ZorbaGama | that seems like a generally good idea, but you can't actually derive that list until the server responses arrive |
| 11:48.40 | seebs | Oooh, right you are. Although I actually can do it for the merge-only case. |
| 11:48.57 | seebs | Because then I'm not creating any new stacks, just shuffling old ones. But... as you note, that information wouldn't actually be correct. |
| 11:48.58 | seebs | Drat. |
| 11:49.06 | ZorbaGama | that said, you could do some horrifying mojo with metatables and coroutines to put Baggotry command strings in their own coroutine environment |
| 11:49.28 | ZorbaGama | then yield whenever a value is requested that hasn't yet arrived :) |
| 11:49.34 | seebs | Yeah. I've been trying to avoid having to learn how to do coroutines properly in lua, but I think I'm gonna have to do it. |
| 11:49.53 | ZorbaGama | coroutines are actually pretty dang fantastic and I recommend them highly. they're one of my favorite parts of lua |
| 11:50.12 | seebs | Yeah. And I'm getting a lot more comfortable with lua this time around. |
| 11:50.40 | seebs | Gonna have to sleep for a bit sometime real soon, but maybe tomorrow's activity will be adding some coroutine stuff. |
| 11:51.21 | seebs | That would help a lot for the obviously-desireable feature of "give me a list of the following items when you are next done processing commands". |
| 11:52.22 | seebs | I have conceived of a way to exploit your hypothesized one-frame drop out of secure mode. Sort of. |
| 11:52.52 | seebs | Imagine that you're doing a raid rift or something similar, where it would be easier if you could have addons controlling targeting or the like. |
| 11:52.55 | ZorbaGama | let me guess: have someone leave and rejoin the party rapidly? :V |
| 11:52.59 | seebs | Yes. |
| 11:53.05 | seebs | Although honestly. |
| 11:53.09 | seebs | It's funny enough that I say let 'em do it. |
| 11:53.20 | ZorbaGama | yeah, it'd throttle itself a bit. I wouldn't be guaranteeing the secure mode drop would happen immediately |
| 11:53.41 | ZorbaGama | it might have a random few-second delay attached to it, and it'd probably have a maximum frequency per minute. |
| 11:53.44 | seebs | It's at least as amusing as "and then there's a guy on vent with a stopwatch." |
| 11:54.10 | ZorbaGama | it'd be funny, I'll grant you that, but I don't want leaving the party to turn into a minmaxing mechanic ;) |
| 11:54.26 | seebs | A few-second delay would be pretty reasonable. WAY nicer than "well, you can have a unit frame for him after the fight's over". |
| 11:57.27 | seebs | Huh. |
| 11:57.39 | seebs | It occurs to me that since we have a pretty good handle on the current form of slot descriptors... |
| 11:58.08 | seebs | It would be trivial to write a library which reads slot descriptors in the 1.6 form, then uses the API calls to generate slot descriptors in whatever form is then natural. |
| 11:58.21 | ZorbaGama | *nod* assuming they have a mapping, yep |
| 11:58.31 | seebs | And if they don't, we have more serious problems. :) |
| 11:58.49 | ZorbaGama | honestly I have no idea what could require that much of a redesign, but, y'know, keeping my options open, that's why those Utility. functions exist :) |
| 11:58.55 | seebs | But that would be an easy way to handle the stored-slot-IDs problem. :) |
| 12:00.47 | ZorbaGama | and I'm off to bed, have fun :) |
| 12:01.02 | seebs | Heh, I was about to say the same thing. |
| 12:01.04 | seebs | Seeya round! |
| 13:17.50 | Snstr | Commands can be separated by newlines up to the addon line limit. < |
| 13:18.17 | Snstr | so "say 1\nsay2" should be 2 lines? |
| 13:19.58 | Snstr | oh nvm "can only say one thing in a macro" thats why it failed ;D |
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| 14:13.55 | Kreiri | is there a command to list equipment in a set? |
| 14:20.21 | Sunspots | Don't think so |
| 14:20.32 | Sunspots | We could probably make a new item set functionality not though |
| 14:20.49 | Sunspots | When the 1.6 API goes live |
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| 17:06.03 | seebs | yay magma opals! |
| 17:06.13 | seebs | They allow me to abuse the heck out of that stacking code. |
| 17:13.49 | seebs | If I can refactor a stack of 394 items from stacks of 9 to stacks of 13 without errors, I should be fine. |
| 17:24.44 | Myrroddin | you are sick and depraved, seebs |
| 17:25.05 | seebs | Hey, it's a test case which found at least one well-hidden bug. :) |
| 17:25.27 | seebs | I've also added a couple of default filters which I will clean up a bit more once I figure out how to identify "artifacts" as such. |
| 17:25.53 | Myrroddin | as for me, i am working on http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/broker-bar/ |
| 17:26.04 | Myrroddin | because, you know, we should have one |
| 17:26.12 | Sunspots | I am keeping a close eye on that one, Myrroddin |
| 17:26.22 | Myrroddin | uh oh. how close? |
| 17:26.40 | Myrroddin | considering i recently upped a new alpha of libdatabroker |
| 17:27.01 | Sunspots | well, not too close, letting you have some time to start working on it |
| 17:27.22 | Sunspots | I will look into using it later though |
| 17:27.24 | Myrroddin | good. i've only started working on the code about half an hour ago. |
| 17:28.01 | Sunspots | btw, I so sucky sucky when it comes to repositories |
| 17:28.24 | Myrroddin | but just for you Curse devs, i am going to test the entire curseforge packager and its keyword substitution and commenting abilities |
| 17:28.42 | Myrroddin | going to see if i can create a no-lib version of the addon :) |
| 17:28.55 | seebs | argh |
| 17:29.05 | seebs | I can't find anything to distinguish a book from an artifact |
| 17:29.18 | seebs | ZORBA WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN MEEEEEE |
| 17:29.31 | Myrroddin | because you changed your name on the forums |
| 17:29.36 | seebs | I did not! |
| 17:29.44 | seebs | I just started using my second account to post. |
| 17:30.15 | Myrroddin | i dunno. Sunspots, i think seebs sounds guilty. what do you say? |
| 17:30.46 | seebs | Both books and artifacts are tagged collectible misc |
| 17:30.54 | seebs | And have sell prices of 1 |
| 17:31.19 | seebs | I mean. To be fair. It's not as though there's a big concern about people who have a ton of books carefully stacked but want to auction their artifacts. |
| 17:31.48 | seebs | ahh! |
| 17:31.49 | seebs | stackMax |
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| 17:34.27 | Sunspots | I'm struggling with a good way to set up my development environment =/ |
| 17:35.09 | Myrroddin | i only use SVN. but that's because i have never used Git or Hg |
| 17:35.23 | seebs | I love git. |
| 17:35.28 | Sunspots | So far I've been just keeping everything in my PTS addons folder... |
| 17:35.42 | seebs | I am torn. I really ought to be diligent, get my Linux system all happy and stable, and run under crossover games. |
| 17:35.49 | seebs | But I'm sorta getting by with mingw for now. |
| 17:36.14 | Dramiel | Git is awesome.. the only problem is that it lacks proper windows gui |
| 17:36.33 | Myrroddin | TortoiseGit |
| 17:36.37 | Myrroddin | or SmartGit |
| 17:36.55 | Dramiel | tortoisegit sucks.. the idea is good, implementation is very very bad |
| 17:36.59 | seebs | ... gui? |
| 17:37.05 | Myrroddin | plus, the other reason i use SVN is Xinhuan's awesome walkthrough answer to my question here http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?t=14907 |
| 17:37.06 | Sunspots | I was intending to use hg because of the GUI |
| 17:39.11 | Sunspots | I'm just not sure how I should set up my local folders |
| 17:40.10 | seebs | My answers are probably useless to you. |
| 17:40.19 | seebs | I have a directory named addons, subdirectories per addon, and Makefiles. |
| 17:48.02 | Sunspots | Okay, seems like I got it set up |
| 17:51.00 | Sunspots | I'm guessing there is no available repository for LibUnitChange if I want to use it in my .pkgmeta |
| 17:52.43 | Myrroddin | nope. Zorba hosts it ftp://ftp.trionworlds.com/rift/addon/ |
| 17:53.02 | Myrroddin | you will need to hard embed and watch for upgrades |
| 17:54.26 | Sunspots | yeah |
| 18:05.45 | Myrroddin | well, BrokerBar's files and folders are all set up, as is the curseforge localization stuff. bedtime now. hack at the actual code later |
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| 18:42.07 | seebs | woot! |
| 18:42.13 | seebs | Baggotry 0.2 is up. |
| 18:42.42 | seebs | It can now answer questions like "what's the sale value of every trash item I'm carrying". |
| 18:42.49 | seebs | Spelled "/bag -s -x -q common" |
| 18:44.31 | seebs | The dungeon team is gonna have to bring their A game if they want to drag people out of the addon development window and into some "dungeon" stuff. |
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| 18:51.15 | Sunspots | Nice! |
| 19:19.58 | seebs | And I figured out how to handle relations, finally! |
| 19:20.30 | seebs | I can just make relation-function factories, since you can pass functions to stuff. Hmm. Of course, that'll make the eventual goal of saving filters harder. |
| 19:21.54 | Kreiri | Nice. Meanwhile. KBB continues crashing game sometimes on rapid buff changes and I cannot figure out why |
| 19:57.12 | Kreiri | it crashes like this: newly added bar suddenly has only background, and adding another bar crashes the game. |
| 20:00.47 | Kreiri | weird, because I set topleft and bottomright of "solid" frame to bar background's respective points 1) on bar's creation; 2) on its reset. |
| 20:02.04 | Kreiri | and it doesn't have text, but if reset failed, then it should have text, because I empty texts after resetting solid's points... |
| 20:08.27 | seebs | ... hah |
| 20:08.36 | seebs | I went away to do some shopping, came back in a level 18 rift. |
| 20:08.41 | seebs | ... me being a tank in t1 raid gear. |
| 20:08.53 | seebs | I was down about 4% health, and I think that only because some of my buffs had fallen off. |
| 20:09.08 | seebs | hmm |
| 20:09.12 | seebs | crashes the game is certainly a bug! |
| 20:09.31 | seebs | See if you can make a synthetic reproducer (say, something which fakes the fatal series of events on a slash command). |
| 20:09.35 | seebs | If you can, it is Zorba's problem! |
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| 20:35.50 | seebs | yayyy fixed relationals |
| 20:44.17 | Sunspots | foo["hi.there"] is not the same as foo.hi.there right? |
| 20:44.23 | Kreiri | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM2rFZGujhk |
| 20:46.56 | Kreiri | if you were shopping a bit longer there could be a ballad of level 18 rift who took on level 50 and won :) |
| 20:49.33 | seebs | Sunspots: I think that's right because foo.hi.there is foo["hi"]["there"] |
| 20:49.35 | seebs | arrrgh |
| 20:49.42 | seebs | I forgot there's no native split. |
| 20:51.17 | Kreiri | If I knew how to reproduce it, I'd knew where to look to fix it. |
| 20:55.17 | seebs | woo |
| 20:55.31 | seebs | I can now do '/bag >:stack:6' and get all stacks of more than 6. |
| 21:00.25 | seebs | ... no, relop has to be infix, fixes that now. |
| 21:12.46 | Kreiri | ...it's like sometimes resetting one bar's info corrupts data of other bar |
| 21:14.22 | seebs | hmm |
| 21:14.50 | Kreiri | Seriously. I have 2 buffs on me, and two buff bars. I cancel one buff, it's bar is resetted and removed in buff.remove handler and bam! the other bar has only background left, doing anything to it results in crash |
| 21:15.42 | seebs | hmm |
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| 21:15.59 | seebs | Is the second one setpointed to the first one in some way? |
| 21:16.04 | Kreiri | no |
| 21:16.09 | seebs | Heya, Dramiel. |
| 21:16.23 | Dramiel | evening :) |
| 21:16.31 | seebs | I *think* I may be done obsessing over baggotry for a few minutes. |
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| 21:16.43 | seebs | I've been refactoring and tweaking all day. |
| 21:17.43 | Dramiel | I've been playing swtor almost all day :p It's actually quite fun |
| 21:17.55 | seebs | Cool! |
| 21:18.19 | seebs | I suppose it's disloyal of me or something to be happy when other MMOs are good, but really, I want the market to be healthy and successful. |
| 21:20.38 | Dramiel | nah, more games, more fun :p |
| 21:22.11 | Dramiel | I'm true casual now and there currently isn't mmo that would take all my "casual time" :p |
| 21:25.08 | Dramiel | rift is fun to do world event quests once or twice, check out dungeons, die few times in warfront.. and thats it (for me) |
| 21:25.21 | Dramiel | wow has arenas.. |
| 21:25.33 | Dramiel | eve has nothing, but you don't really have to play to advance :p |
| 21:26.31 | seebs | I'm mostly messing with addons. |
| 21:26.33 | seebs | It's SO MUCH FUN. |
| 21:27.17 | seebs | There is endless amusement (for me, anyway) in subdividing my 394 magma opals into stacks of 7, then stacks of 9, etcetera. |
| 21:28.02 | Dramiel | yea thats the reason I came back to rift actually.. the thing is that I can't spend 5 days a week writing stuff in c#/objc and then weekend writing stuff in lua.. my brain can't take it - there were dreams where I was "programming my lunch" |
| 21:28.15 | seebs | heh |
| 21:37.12 | seebs | I now have a rarity_p which interprets both the official rarity names, and also color names, and gives you a sorted comparison. |
| 21:37.33 | seebs | ... This may be a bad design because it means I'll yield truthy values for things which aren't OFFICIAL rarity names. |
| 21:39.44 | seebs | how the heck |
| 21:39.58 | seebs | The official forums have a subforum, "Bug Reports". |
| 21:40.06 | seebs | It is a subforum of the forum "Bug Reports and Suggestions". |
| 21:40.28 | seebs | I can find no evidence that "Bug Reports and Suggestions" actually exists; it isn't visible on the main page or anything, and I can't navigate to it. |
| 21:41.20 | seebs | And I can't start threads in the "Bug Reports" forum, even though obviously people other than me can, or the mods can move threads there. |
| 21:44.42 | ZorbaGama | kreiri, definitely interested in any reproducible crash case. it doesn't need to be a minimal case either - just give me an addon and a series of repro steps ("put up two buffs", for example) |
| 21:45.06 | Kreiri | I managed to reproduce my crash reliably. Make two bar groups with the same filter, unit, watching and filtering types; cancel buff, recast it, cancel, reca- crash. It practically screams that something is wrong in my buff.remove and buff.add handlers, most probably error in putting frames to cache table. However, my debug reports correct number of elements in cache and group.bars tables |
| 21:45.11 | ZorbaGama | although if it takes ~15 seconds to crash, that may be the infinite loop watchdog killing it, which may mean you have something as simple as an infinite loop in your code :) |
| 21:45.23 | ZorbaGama | (if it's actually crashing the client, that is :) ) |
| 21:45.31 | seebs | Is the improved visibility of the array of things in the center of meridian an intentional feature, or merely a graphics glitch? |
| 21:45.31 | Kreiri | it crashes immediately |
| 21:45.38 | seebs | On live, the glass over it is nearly opaque. |
| 21:45.50 | ZorbaGama | yeah I want repro steps on that one |
| 21:46.05 | ZorbaGama | seebs, different graphics settings, maybe? or maybe it's something we changed |
| 21:46.19 | seebs | I can't tell. |
| 21:46.20 | ZorbaGama | to be honest that's so far out of my immediate circle that I have no idea, the things came as a surprise to me when they showed up |
| 21:46.28 | seebs | Heh. I still don't know what they are. |
| 21:46.30 | ZorbaGama | "whoa there's some things in the middle of meridian, when did that happen" |
| 21:46.47 | ZorbaGama | I clipped through the floor to check at some point. I think they're just generic Defiant widgetry :) |
| 21:46.55 | seebs | I need to think of a nice way to express "field is missing" as a filter component. |
| 21:47.10 | seebs | Apart from that, I'm pretty happy with the current state of things. |
| 21:47.10 | Kreiri | -- |
| 21:47.27 | seebs | Although I'm forcibly setting .rarity to .rarity or 'common' because otherwise it's a hassle. :) |
| 22:01.36 | starlon | O.o |
| 22:02.01 | seebs | If an item is 'common', it doesn't get a .rarity field. |
| 22:02.07 | seebs | So you have to special case all the checks. |
| 22:02.30 | seebs | So when I actually do an Inspect.Item.Detail(...), I quickly iterate through the list setting v.rarity = v.rarity or 'common' |
| 22:11.59 | seebs | Members of Icewatch think I am covered with tinsel and ornaments, and possibly little lights! |
| 22:34.02 | Sunspots | I'm a schmuck |
| 22:34.36 | Sunspots | Just don't get how objects work ( at least I think that's what I'm struggling with, lol...) |
| 22:35.03 | Sunspots | foo = { fruit = "apple"}; bar = foo; bar.fruit = "banana" --> foo.fruit = "banana" |
| 22:36.23 | Sunspots | I don't understand how I've gotten this far without even figuring out that it wotks like that |
| 22:38.13 | Kreiri | there are no objects, only tables |
| 22:38.16 | Kreiri | foo is a reference to a table |
| 22:38.46 | Kreiri | when you bar = foo, you make bar to reference the same table as foo |
| 22:38.55 | Sunspots | yeah |
| 22:39.09 | Sunspots | I was guessing something like that |
| 22:39.32 | Sunspots | What if I just want to copy the table? |
| 22:39.43 | Kreiri | to clone it, you mean? |
| 22:39.46 | Sunspots | yeah |
| 22:39.55 | Kreiri | you'll have to walk over it and copy values |
| 22:40.04 | Kreiri | creating new tables as necessary |
| 22:40.21 | Sunspots | whoopdeedooo |
| 22:41.25 | seebs | Yeah. This turns out to be very nice sometimes and very annoying other times. |
| 22:41.44 | Kreiri | http://lua-users.org/wiki/CopyTable |
| 22:46.16 | Sunspots | Ah, that's what I needed! |
| 22:46.41 | Sunspots | I am amazed that I haven't needed to do that before |
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| 23:07.26 | starlon | wow, another program shows +12.10 volts as opposed to the +6.32... Maybe my PSU is ok. |
| 23:34.47 | Kreiri | Is there a German word for feeling stupid and helpless? |
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| 23:49.42 | seebs | Probably! |
| 23:50.08 | seebs | So, silly question: Is there an API hook for "the colors that are used for the standard item rarity tooltips" that I've just missed, or should I just guess at colors? |
| 23:52.09 | seebs | I am toying with beginning an *actual* inventory addon based on LibBaggotry, but it occurs to me I don't know how to do the colors. |