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| 16:28.32 | starlon | whimpers. |
| 16:29.01 | Kraps_w | give starlon a cookie |
| 16:29.06 | starlon | devours. |
| 16:29.12 | starlon | didn't kill my bug :( |
| 16:29.36 | Kraps_w | because it was a tracking cookie |
| 16:29.44 | starlon | It's a hard to produce bug too. Just happens out of nowhere. |
| 16:30.06 | starlon | Facebook, is that you? |
| 16:58.06 | Marru_Home | snstr you around? |
| 16:59.44 | Snstr | yup |
| 17:00.06 | Marru_Home | what did u mean when u said update fired before available? |
| 17:00.30 | Snstr | oh that was starlon :D |
| 17:00.41 | Marru_Home | oh damnit, read that wrong lol |
| 17:00.51 | lXl | You're not Starlon? |
| 17:00.52 | Marru_Home | well |
| 17:01.45 | Marru_Home | as far as the update events firing only once per frame frame rendering, i'd assume they'd fire multiple times if multiple units had health/mana updates per frame |
| 17:01.55 | Snstr | but about what starlon said, I had a nil issue when logging in but not when reloading the UI - so yea there is something out of order at some place |
| 17:02.45 | Marru_Home | but considering on average people get at minimum probly 15-20 fps, and on average they probably get 30-40 fps, theres probably not enough update events to trigger multiple per frame |
| 17:05.15 | Snstr | ill investigate that |
| 17:10.58 | Marru_Home | what program do you guys use to code in? |
| 17:13.37 | Snstr | notepad++ here |
| 17:15.57 | Marru_Home | cool, i was usin scite but its startin to bug me so i switched to notepad++ like 15 mins ago lol |
| 17:16.12 | Marru_Home | kinda like the color scheme in scite better |
| 17:16.22 | idolby | I use mspaint, then a OCR app that writes it to a file. |
| 17:16.24 | Marru_Home | but notepad++ is much nicer |
| 17:16.31 | idolby | nah i use notepad++ |
| 17:16.46 | Marru_Home | what idolby? ur tellin me u dont use dos? |
| 17:17.16 | seebs | vi |
| 17:17.24 | Marru_Home | whats vi? |
| 17:17.26 | idolby | kinda, but I have windows 3.1 |
| 17:17.47 | seebs | It's an editor old enough that "vi" stands for "visual" because it was a revolutionary new editor that used cursor addressing. :P |
| 17:17.56 | Marru_Home | lol |
| 17:18.12 | seebs | I like it. Powerful, fast, available on nearly everything in one form or another. |
| 17:18.20 | Marru_Home | cool |
| 17:18.20 | seebs | Trained my fingers for it playing rogue. |
| 17:18.22 | idolby | I use VI when shelled into a box |
| 17:18.40 | idolby | err vi, why did ipad cap that |
| 17:19.20 | seebs | Because it's a roman numeral, probably. |
| 17:19.38 | idolby | ah yeah true |
| 17:19.44 | seebs | Yeah, my addon development environment is basically mingw with the mingw git port copied into bin. |
| 17:19.58 | seebs | In WoW I actually did addon dev under Linux. |
| 17:20.22 | seebs | And when I realized that my video card could swap from fullscreen wow to a shell prompt instantly under Linux, and took about 10 seconds under Windows, I just switched. :) |
| 17:20.25 | Marru_Home | only reason i wouldn't wanna do that would be for ease of testing |
| 17:20.40 | Marru_Home | well |
| 17:20.44 | seebs | It was actually easier to test, at the time, under Linux. For me. :) |
| 17:20.51 | Marru_Home | thats only cuz i can't get rift to run on linux |
| 17:21.08 | seebs | Now I have a dual-head setup on my Windows desktop so I can use a reasonable approximation of a shell prompt and not have to wait for monitor resyncs. |
| 17:21.18 | seebs | Still not super happy in the environment, but it's a livable compromise. |
| 17:21.38 | seebs | I should at some point try to run rift under wine on that box and see how it compares. |
| 17:21.52 | seebs | On one of my systems, wow was faster under Linux, on another, it was noticably slower. |
| 17:22.04 | Marru_Home | interesting |
| 17:22.06 | Marru_Home | if u get it to run on wine |
| 17:22.10 | Marru_Home | you should walk me thru it |
| 17:23.59 | seebs | People are doing it, clearly, as we've seen patch notes about them fixing bugs that broke it under wine. |
| 17:24.07 | Marru_Home | i know |
| 17:24.15 | Marru_Home | i just wasn't able to install it correctly |
| 17:24.31 | Marru_Home | kept erroring with directx and .net stuff i think |
| 17:25.05 | Marru_Home | dpsMeter.PlayerDMG = UI.CreateFrame("Text", "Player DPS", RCFrame) |
| 17:25.14 | Marru_Home | how am i getting an error on that line? |
| 17:26.54 | seebs | Dunno, what's the error? |
| 17:27.16 | Marru_Home | attempt to call field 'CreateFrame' (a nil value) |
| 17:27.36 | Marru_Home | oh fml |
| 17:27.42 | Marru_Home | nvm |
| 17:27.47 | Marru_Home | im retarded |
| 17:28.04 | Marru_Home | i named a table UI... |
| 17:33.32 | Lyme | http://vslua.codeplex.com/ |
| 17:34.37 | Marru_Home | agh |
| 17:34.50 | Marru_Home | my scale bar has gone horribly bad |
| 17:35.05 | Lyme | random feature |
| 17:36.52 | starlon | I was talking about Event.Unit.Available, and it didn't have anything to do with Inspect.Unit methods. |
| 17:37.02 | Marru_Home | kk |
| 17:37.02 | starlon | Well wait, yeah it did. :) |
| 17:37.13 | starlon | But not in a way. |
| 17:37.36 | starlon | I needed the saved variables that are initialized after Available. |
| 17:37.48 | starlon | No worries though. |
| 17:37.57 | starlon | just annoying is all heh |
| 17:38.39 | Marru_Home | lol kk |
| 17:38.50 | starlon | Unit.Detail is used when the saved variables initialization is performed. |
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| 17:58.57 | starlon | So absinthe tea is some nasty stuff. Witches are crazy for drinking that. |
| 17:59.01 | starlon | bleh bleh bleh. |
| 17:59.06 | starlon | bleh. |
| 18:01.43 | Kraps_w | Witches |
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| 18:26.46 | Snstr | plays Rick Astleys Never gonna give you up in everyones heads |
| 18:28.47 | Kraps_w | hunts Snstr |
| 18:29.23 | Snstr | its too late, the song plays in an endless loop in your head now |
| 18:30.28 | seebs | <-- hasn't heard it often enough to be vulnerable. |
| 18:30.42 | Snstr | :( |
| 18:31.03 | Snstr | such a shame .. I followed a movie trailer link on youtube and got ... rick rolled |
| 18:31.48 | Kraps_w | was it an avengers 2 trailer :p |
| 18:32.17 | Kraps_w | i bet you could get thousands of people like that |
| 18:33.46 | Snstr | ye it was that |
| 18:33.47 | Snstr | :(((((((( |
| 18:34.36 | Kraps_w | you're kidding |
| 18:35.08 | Snstr | not |
| 18:35.33 | Snstr | let me see what steps I took to get there :P |
| 18:36.00 | Snstr | I searched some stuff about game of thrones to begin with |
| 18:36.02 | Kraps_w | avengers wont be out for MONTHS |
| 18:36.10 | Snstr | im not much into movies :( |
| 18:36.35 | Snstr | but the thing looked interesting and it did show another pic in the thumbnail |
| 18:37.42 | Marru_Home | hey guys so im trying to implement a slider bar to affect the scale of my UI |
| 18:37.49 | Marru_Home | and im running into a conceptual issue |
| 18:38.44 | Marru_Home | right now i have the slider call a function when its moved and what it does is take the current height and multiply it by the value of the slider bar |
| 18:38.56 | Kraps_w | i watched thor and captain america yesterday |
| 18:39.10 | Marru_Home | made sense at first but now that has its obvious flaws |
| 18:40.05 | Marru_Home | if the scale value goes from 0.1 to 2, then if you move the bar from 1.5 to 1.4 your still increasing it in size |
| 18:40.30 | Marru_Home | anyone have any ideas on how to avoid this? |
| 18:40.59 | Snstr | uh? |
| 18:41.10 | Snstr | do u take the current size or a default size to scale with? |
| 18:41.22 | Marru_Home | problem is i take current size |
| 18:41.55 | Snstr | thats bad, use a default size u define somewhere? or smth thats calculated from the resolution |
| 18:42.09 | Marru_Home | is there an easy way to make it do default size but still work in a loop of all frames which have different default sizes? |
| 18:42.21 | Snstr | else a slider doesnt make sense for scaling, then better use an input field |
| 18:42.51 | Marru_Home | i guess i could do like a first run thing rather and on the first run get each value and set it as a table value inside it |
| 18:43.24 | Snstr | well how do u create those frames? |
| 18:44.22 | starlon | Hmm can't load my character on selection screen before logging in, and the Addons button is disabled. |
| 18:44.22 | Marru_Home | in my saved variable load function, it individually creates and sets up each frame, but there are multiple width values they use |
| 18:45.05 | Marru_Home | i think i found a way |
| 18:45.22 | Snstr | well I guess unify it somehow and just scale with a certain default value? Dunno |
| 18:46.38 | Marru_Home | ok |
| 18:46.40 | Marru_Home | so what i did |
| 18:46.52 | Marru_Home | is i have a table of all my UI frames |
| 18:47.02 | Marru_Home | and i cycle thru it |
| 18:47.28 | Marru_Home | and for each one it does "if not v.width then v.width = v:GetWidth() end" |
| 18:47.32 | Marru_Home | and the same for height |
| 18:48.49 | Marru_Home | gah wtf |
| 18:49.20 | Marru_Home | now when i try to change the scale its erroring on the v:GetWidth() call |
| 18:51.08 | Marru_Home | gah |
| 18:53.13 | Marru_Home | yay i love you notepad++ |
| 18:53.24 | Marru_Home | you can select multiple lines and hit tab and it tabs em :) |
| 18:53.41 | Marru_Home | uh oh, stack overflow |
| 18:54.29 | starlon | sighs. |
| 18:55.05 | Marru_Home | ok fixed stack overflow |
| 18:55.29 | starlon | fix my client pls |
| 18:55.40 | Marru_Home | no! fix my scaling function! |
| 18:55.48 | starlon | lol |
| 18:56.39 | starlon | Oh no servers available. |
| 18:56.40 | Marru_Home | do saved variables load before player loads? |
| 18:57.00 | starlon | Before Unit.Available yes |
| 18:57.04 | Marru_Home | hmm |
| 18:57.07 | starlon | I hope it stays that way. |
| 18:57.08 | Marru_Home | still shouldn't matter |
| 18:57.31 | starlon | Can anyone connect to Rift servers? |
| 18:57.36 | Marru_Home | im on one |
| 18:57.51 | starlon | hmm |
| 18:58.06 | starlon | I have 'NO SERVERS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE' |
| 18:58.14 | starlon | bleh |
| 19:00.59 | Marru_Home | wtf |
| 19:01.09 | Marru_Home | im looping thru my table |
| 19:01.17 | Marru_Home | and the table values should all be the frame values |
| 19:01.33 | Marru_Home | or the frames rather |
| 19:02.45 | Marru_Home | but i have a table of frames too, but i have at least 6 frames in the table, but when i move my slider it always gets into type(v) == "table" |
| 19:05.29 | starlon | looks like it's in the route |
| 19:06.09 | Marru_Home | ok wtf is going on now |
| 19:06.19 | Marru_Home | my scale value is 1.13 |
| 19:06.37 | Marru_Home | and my code says to setposition of slider to scale * 100 to start |
| 19:06.47 | Marru_Home | and my slider range is 0 - 200 |
| 19:06.58 | Marru_Home | and its erroring |
| 19:07.33 | Marru_Home | im printing the scale value and type b4 it gets set, and its 1.13 and type number |
| 19:07.40 | Marru_Home | why can't i set my slider position to it? |
| 19:08.25 | starlon | does it have to be whole value increments? |
| 19:08.45 | Marru_Home | i multiply it by 100 so 1.13 is 113 on the slider |
| 19:09.34 | Marru_Home | i just added print scale value, type, and scale * 100 which is wats in the set position command |
| 19:09.55 | Marru_Home | and it printed out 1.13 type: number position: 113 |
| 19:09.57 | starlon | fine time for my route to go plop. gotta annoying bug where StarTip and Cursor don't play nicely together. |
| 19:09.59 | Marru_Home | why can't it set it! |
| 19:10.12 | seebs | Because you are a Bad Person. |
| 19:10.18 | Marru_Home | damnit seebs |
| 19:10.29 | Marru_Home | even if that was true its not helping! |
| 19:10.29 | Marru_Home | lol |
| 19:10.42 | seebs | ... helping? |
| 19:10.44 | seebs | Wow. |
| 19:10.47 | seebs | That is an awesome idea. |
| 19:10.52 | seebs | I should totally try to do that sometime. |
| 19:10.56 | Marru_Home | i know, revolutionary right? |
| 19:11.05 | Marru_Home | totally out of character for you |
| 19:11.16 | starlon | evil |
| 19:11.37 | seebs | I sometimes run into problems where people who don't know me misread me badly because they can't tell I'm joking. |
| 19:11.55 | seebs | Someone on the rift forums recently complained about the horrors of Trion having a "homophobic" ambassador. :P |
| 19:12.06 | starlon | ouch |
| 19:12.43 | seebs | I promised to pass this feedback on to the gay guy I've been married to for the last 17 years. |
| 19:12.44 | starlon | someone fixor the routor |
| 19:13.37 | seebs | My router fixing is pretty much limited to percussive maintenance. |
| 19:13.43 | starlon | It even effects my connection to Facebook! |
| 19:13.46 | starlon | omg |
| 19:13.53 | starlon | lol seebs |
| 19:14.04 | seebs | affects, not effects |
| 19:14.35 | seebs | To "affect" something is to have an influence on it, to "effect" something is to bring it about or cause it to happen. |
| 19:14.35 | seebs | <-- editor |
| 19:14.35 | starlon | :) |
| 19:16.47 | starlon | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/10/24/151238/bug-opens-chrome-to-easy-remote-code-execution |
| 19:16.51 | starlon | Google, make sense! |
| 19:17.04 | starlon | "Google decided that this was not a vulnerability, but rather a 'strange behavior that [they] should consider changing.' " |
| 19:17.19 | starlon | It allows remote execution. |
| 19:17.26 | starlon | But it's not a vulnarability. |
| 19:17.41 | starlon | vulnerability |
| 19:17.50 | seebs | I see! |
| 19:18.00 | seebs | This explains why they're sort of conceding the nymwars. |
| 19:18.02 | Kraps_w | working as intended |
| 19:18.12 | seebs | Because they want a vulnerability to be able to go by a reasonable pseudonym. |
| 19:18.21 | seebs | Reminds me of the famous French comment on an early atomic bomb test: |
| 19:18.29 | seebs | "It is not a bomb. It is a device, which is exploding." |
| 19:18.41 | starlon | heh |
| 19:20.01 | starlon | You know how a linux kernel can be forced to load as root? I told my professor that wasn't a vulnerability, but rather a feature. She didn't say a word. |
| 19:21.17 | starlon | It's easy to secure against. Just password protect the boot loader. |
| 19:22.43 | seebs | In general... Anything that requires console access to do, I don't much care about in practice. |
| 19:22.54 | seebs | You have already lost at that point. |
| 20:09.16 | starlon | ZorbaTHut: Is there any harm in performing table.remove on an event table? |
| 20:10.00 | starlon | Specifically Event.Unit.Available |
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| 20:14.00 | Marru_Laptop | RCMenu.Settings.UI.ScaleSlider:SetPosition(dpsMeterSettings.scale * 100) |
| 20:14.13 | Marru_Laptop | if dpsMeterSettings.scale = 1.13 |
| 20:14.27 | Marru_Laptop | and range on scale slider is set to (0, 200) |
| 20:14.31 | Marru_Laptop | anyone see why that wouldn't work? |
| 20:23.52 | seebs | Ah-hah. |
| 20:23.54 | seebs | I bet I do. |
| 20:24.03 | seebs | Let me guess, it's supposed to be an integer value, right? |
| 20:24.10 | Marru_Laptop | i guess? |
| 20:24.10 | seebs | And you are assuming that 1.13 * 100 = 113 exactly. |
| 20:24.17 | Marru_Laptop | yes? |
| 20:24.18 | seebs | But that is not true. |
| 20:24.23 | Marru_Laptop | how? |
| 20:24.24 | seebs | Because there is no such number as 1.13. |
| 20:24.35 | seebs | Welcome to the hell that is Floating Point. |
| 20:24.55 | seebs | Basically. Lua numbers are always integers times some power of two. Exactly. |
| 20:25.00 | Marru_Laptop | so do i need to math.floor() it? |
| 20:25.04 | seebs | Probably. |
| 20:25.25 | seebs | Basically, if you can't represent a number exactly as some number of eighths, sixteenths, thirty-seconds, or whatever... It doesn't exist. |
| 20:25.41 | seebs | And 1.13 is such a number. So it won't be exact, so 1.13 * 100 won't be exactly 113. |
| 20:26.15 | seebs | If I were going to do an interface like this, I'd probably have SetPosition do some consistent rounding and hide that problem. |
| 20:26.23 | seebs | Of course, there's the risk that 1.13 * 100 will then be 112. |
| 20:27.30 | Marru_Laptop | well thats fine |
| 20:27.33 | Marru_Laptop | so how would i round? |
| 20:27.38 | Marru_Laptop | math.floor(? |
| 20:28.40 | seebs | I think just math.floor(dpsMeterSettings.scale * 100). |
| 20:28.49 | Marru_Laptop | kk |
| 20:30.26 | seebs | I posted about that in bug reports, IMHO it's a bug. Or rather. |
| 20:30.48 | seebs | If you do math.floor, and the next guy does math.ceil, and the guy after that rounds to even, and the guy after that rounds to nearest adding .5... that'll be a bug. :) |
| 20:31.20 | Marru_Laptop | kk |
| 20:31.21 | Marru_Laptop | thx |
| 20:33.48 | Marru_Laptop | ok another thing ive been wondering about |
| 20:33.57 | Marru_Laptop | i've had luck in some cases doing this but not others |
| 20:34.20 | Marru_Laptop | frame = {}, frame = UI.CreateFrame(blah), frame.active = true |
| 20:34.44 | Marru_Laptop | why would that work sometimes but not other |
| 20:34.46 | Marru_Laptop | *others |
| 20:35.11 | seebs | Well, the first part is unneeded. |
| 20:35.21 | seebs | You're setting it to an empty table, then replacing the empty table with CreateFrame(). |
| 20:35.29 | seebs | Well, the value returned by CreateFrame. |
| 20:35.58 | Marru_Laptop | ok well how come sometimes i can set another value as if it was a table, and sometimes i cant |
| 20:37.44 | seebs | I am not sure I understand the question. |
| 20:38.05 | Marru_Laptop | frame = UI.CreateFrame(), frame.active = true |
| 20:38.06 | seebs | After you've done "frame = <something>, frame = UI.CreateFrame(blah)"... it does not matter, ever, what <something> was. |
| 20:38.19 | seebs | Because you just discarded it. |
| 20:38.21 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 20:38.22 | seebs | It's like "x = 3, x = 4". |
| 20:38.25 | seebs | The 3 doesn't matter. |
| 20:38.42 | seebs | My guess would be that sometimes UI.CreateFrame() is failing and returning nil or otherwise something that isn't a frame. |
| 20:38.44 | Marru_Laptop | but the thing is frame is a table if frame.active exists isn't it? |
| 20:39.06 | seebs | I am not quite sure. Lua's type system is a little beyond what I actually remember without looking stuff up. |
| 20:39.22 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 20:39.34 | seebs | I seem to recall that you can define types which behave much as though they were tables, but which aren't really. |
| 20:39.46 | Marru_Laptop | heres an example, hold on |
| 20:39.49 | seebs | What's type(frame) come out to? That'll tell you what lua thinks it is. |
| 20:40.19 | Marru_Laptop | http://pastebin.com/PVYkRNfn |
| 20:40.31 | Marru_Laptop | inside the main if statement in the middle |
| 20:40.46 | Marru_Laptop | you'll see v:ClearAll() and stuff |
| 20:40.51 | Marru_Laptop | but v.active = false as well |
| 20:40.58 | seebs | Yup. |
| 20:41.07 | Marru_Laptop | my ability filter list works great |
| 20:41.17 | seebs | I *believe* that foo:bar(...) is just syntactic sugar for foo.bar(foo, ...) |
| 20:41.18 | Marru_Laptop | v.active switches from true to false and back when you click |
| 20:41.31 | Marru_Laptop | etc |
| 20:41.52 | Marru_Laptop | so v is a frame |
| 20:42.04 | Marru_Laptop | but its also a table with a value .active = boolean |
| 20:42.10 | seebs | Yeah. And a frame may or may not be a kind of a table, I don't know. |
| 20:42.17 | Marru_Laptop | well if it is |
| 20:42.20 | seebs | I haven't messed with the frame stuff at all, haven't had cause to. |
| 20:42.27 | Marru_Laptop | why wouldn't it let me do that same thing with it in different parts |
| 20:42.30 | Marru_Laptop | brb |
| 20:42.32 | Marru_Laptop | class is over |
| 20:42.36 | seebs | The thing, I think, is... UI:CreateFrame() may sometimes return a non-frame. |
| 20:42.39 | Marru_Laptop | i'll be back on at home |
| 20:42.42 | seebs | k |
| 21:01.28 | Marru||AFK | back |
| 21:01.33 | Marru_Home | lol |
| 21:01.38 | Marru_Home | wtf is with my quit messages? |
| 23:10.37 | Marru_Home | ugh so tired of this stupid frame sometimes letting me table values thing |
| 23:13.36 | Marru_Home | ahaha! fixed |
| 23:30.45 | Marru_Home | http://pastebin.com/9FNpabCp |
| 23:30.48 | Marru_Home | anyone know why that wouldn't work? |
| 23:31.30 | Marru_Home | error is "attempt to index nil value on the lines that do Defaults[k].width = v:GetWidth() |
| 23:35.40 | Marru_Home | its acting as if the values aren't frames or somethin |
| 23:35.57 | Marru_Home | but i only put frames in there |