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| 00:09.49 | Marru_Home | woot, addon didn't error out but it froze the game |
| 00:10.06 | Marru_Home | zorba, incoming error report >.< |
| 00:10.24 | Marru_Home | lol |
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| 00:12.34 | Marru_Home | yup, my addon currently crashes the game everytime... joy |
| 00:12.44 | Marru_Home | oh gg i know why too lol |
| 00:12.50 | Marru_Home | yay infinite while loop |
| 00:14.06 | Marru_Home | ok, so im missing a tostring in my settext somewhere then i think its minimally functional, sweet |
| 00:14.45 | Aurorus | Marru_Home: You should make that into a mini-game achievement. See how far in an instance you can get with everyone's game randomly pausing :P |
| 00:14.56 | Aurorus | "Simulated Lag" |
| 00:15.09 | Marru_Home | lol |
| 00:15.21 | Marru_Home | i did end up killing the mob i was testing on |
| 00:15.28 | Marru_Home | i relogged in and it was dead in front of me |
| 00:15.41 | Marru_Home | so while i lagged out, i did auto attack it to death apparently |
| 00:16.42 | Aurorus | btw, ZorbaTHut, does Rift UI take the network lag into account? |
| 00:16.58 | Aurorus | because most of us Aussies play on about 250 - 300ms ping all the time |
| 00:17.03 | Aurorus | which is one keystroke |
| 00:17.05 | ZorbaTHut | aurorus, what do you mean, "take into account"? |
| 00:17.35 | Aurorus | ZorbaTHut: In WoW, there was an addon that 'cancelled' the attack and let you press the next button after the induction was done. |
| 00:17.46 | Aurorus | i.e. before the server responded with "okay, success" |
| 00:18.06 | Aurorus | So say you have 1,000ms lag (for ease of calculations) |
| 00:18.23 | Aurorus | If you have a two second induction, you actually wait 4 seconds for that skill to go off |
| 00:18.41 | Aurorus | Press, 1 second lag, 2 seconds induction, 1 seconds lag for result |
| 00:19.01 | Aurorus | So the WoW addon would press, wait 2 seconds, "cancel" the attack, letting you press another skill |
| 00:19.06 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, I don't actually know how it deals with channeled spells. although note that you can interrupt a channeled spell by just casting another spell |
| 00:20.38 | Marru_Home | hey so if i have a timer thing going |
| 00:21.04 | Marru_Home | idk why its not working all of a sudden cuz it was working b4, but whats more correct |
| 00:21.58 | Marru_Home | SetText("Time: "..tostring(time)) or SetText("Time: ", tostring(time)) or SetText("Time: " + tostring(time)) |
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| 00:25.51 | Marru_Home | woot |
| 00:25.52 | Marru_Home | got it |
| 00:25.55 | Marru_Home | no more errors |
| 00:26.03 | Marru_Home | now to get the dps to display in the frame |
| 00:26.19 | hp94 | Oooo dps meter? |
| 00:27.10 | Marru_Home | got it |
| 00:27.15 | Marru_Home | yup |
| 00:27.53 | Marru_Home | any chance anyone could hop on pts so i could test out group dps real quick? |
| 00:30.23 | Marru_Home | anyone? |
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| 00:35.00 | Sunspots | invite me, Sunspots |
| 00:36.00 | Marru_Home | ur guardian |
| 00:36.01 | Marru_Home | im defiant |
| 00:36.55 | Marru_Home | ok found a random person to help |
| 00:37.00 | Marru_Home | ran into a few issues |
| 00:37.02 | Sunspots | kk |
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| 00:37.27 | Marru_Home | first of all, is there a way to check if another unit is in combat? |
| 00:37.38 | Marru_Home | cuz the dps meter relys on me being in combat to start and stop the timer |
| 00:42.11 | Marru_Home | anyone? |
| 00:43.04 | Marru_Home | also, how do i round a number? |
| 00:46.15 | hp94 | ZorbaTHut: Have you thought about allowing Daltonization for colorblind players (or at least putting a high-contrast option into the interface)? |
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| 01:02.37 | Sunspots | this is my round function: local function round(num) return math.floor(num+.5) end |
| 01:03.04 | Sunspots | just got it from the interwebz |
| 01:03.59 | Marru_Home | found a lil dif one |
| 01:04.06 | Marru_Home | but its workin |
| 01:04.13 | Marru_Home | takin a break now cuz its guild raid time |
| 01:16.27 | ZorbaTHut | kill akylios |
| 01:19.07 | Marru_Home | ok so learning about tables |
| 01:19.37 | Marru_Home | if i say dpsMeter.player = {} |
| 01:19.58 | Marru_Home | can i go throught that table and say for example dpsMeters.player[1].dmg = blah? |
| 01:20.51 | Marru_Home | anyone? |
| 01:22.15 | lXl | Try it? |
| 01:22.25 | Marru_Home | i am writing it atm that way |
| 01:22.34 | Marru_Home | but i can't test it til after my guilds raid ends |
| 01:22.36 | lXl | Looks valid |
| 01:22.40 | Marru_Home | so like 2 to 3 hours |
| 01:22.43 | lXl | Are you coding and raiding? :P |
| 01:22.55 | Marru_Home | well right now were forming group |
| 01:23.10 | Marru_Home | but i will be coding during delays lol |
| 01:23.33 | ZorbaTHut | you can always test stuff on codepad :) |
| 01:23.47 | Marru_Home | im tryin as hard as i can to get this working by patch day |
| 01:23.50 | Marru_Home | wats codepad? |
| 01:23.54 | ZorbaTHut | codepad.org |
| 01:24.02 | ZorbaTHut | it'll execute code that you enter, so you can try out snippets of lua |
| 01:24.28 | Marru_Home | awesome |
| 01:24.29 | Marru_Home | thx |
| 01:25.09 | Marru_Home | damn |
| 01:25.11 | Marru_Home | doesn't work |
| 01:25.33 | hp94 | codepad++? |
| 01:25.52 | Marru_Home | ahaha! |
| 01:26.12 | Marru_Home | i just need to add player[i] = {} in my loop |
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| 01:42.41 | Marru_Home | zorba, is there any way to track the amount of absorb a healer is applying to a tank? |
| 01:45.42 | ZorbaTHut | not easily. each individual damage element will say how much absorb was involved, but there's no way to credit that to a particular buff or player, besides attempting to track it yourself. |
| 01:45.48 | ZorbaTHut | this may be improved in the future. |
| 01:47.35 | Marru_Home | ok, i feel like it wouldn't be all that complicated to add event.combat.absorb and give caster type info |
| 01:47.53 | ZorbaTHut | the interface would be simple, the backend implementation would take significant work. |
| 01:48.00 | Marru_Home | ok |
| 01:51.56 | hp94 | Event.Bacon(); |
| 01:56.27 | phoenik | woo textbox |
| 01:56.44 | phoenik | wtb getframetype |
| 01:56.52 | phoenik | ;D |
| 01:57.09 | lXl | lua> if bacon == delicious then return error |
| 01:57.10 | Marru_Home | lol |
| 01:57.10 | lua_bot | lXl: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 01:57.14 | lXl | Horray |
| 02:00.53 | phoenik | lua> local a = 1 while((a = a << 2) <= 16) do print(a) end |
| 02:00.53 | lua_bot | phoenik: luabot:1: ')' expected near '=' |
| 02:02.15 | phoenik | lua> local a = 1 while (a = a << 2) <= 16 do print(a) end |
| 02:02.16 | lua_bot | phoenik: luabot:1: ')' expected near '=' |
| 02:02.21 | phoenik | FINE |
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| 02:24.06 | hp94 | Every day |
| 02:24.09 | hp94 | I'm shufflin... |
| 02:30.30 | Marru_Home | how are pets factored into event.combat.damage? |
| 02:32.30 | Marru_Home | zorba u there? |
| 02:37.34 | Marru_Home | anyone know how to keep track of pets dps? |
| 02:38.02 | Marru_Home | do they have their own unit id? and how can we track their master? or is their dps just the masters dps |
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| 02:59.02 | ZorbaTHut | every unit in the game has its own unit ID |
| 02:59.52 | Marru_Home | sounds like that includes pets then |
| 02:59.56 | ZorbaTHut | yup |
| 02:59.58 | Marru_Home | so how do we relate a pet to its player? |
| 03:00.00 | ZorbaTHut | if you can target it, it has a unit ID. |
| 03:00.03 | ZorbaTHut | group01.pet |
| 03:00.21 | ZorbaTHut | or if you're targeting the pet, target.owner |
| 03:00.36 | Marru_Home | group01.pet is unit specifier for pet? |
| 03:00.44 | ZorbaTHut | yep |
| 03:00.49 | Marru_Home | ok |
| 03:00.54 | Marru_Home | i will account for that after this raid then |
| 03:01.20 | hp94 | Zorba, do you have GM powers on inhouse servers |
| 03:01.31 | hp94 | crap, pushed enter way too early |
| 03:01.43 | hp94 | Hate when that happens |
| 03:01.48 | ZorbaTHut | inhouse, as in live servers? nope |
| 03:02.01 | ZorbaTHut | or as in local development servers? |
| 03:02.42 | hp94 | in house, such as internal (development builds, etc) - although I might assume that everyone connected to internal servers has SOME kind of GM client and/or GM accessibility, even if only a few things |
| 03:03.09 | ZorbaTHut | some of them, not others. it's a "if you need it, ask for it, and you'll get it" deal. most people never need it so most people never ask for it. |
| 03:06.15 | hp94 | Like day-to-night skybox control? - Although, that'd be more of a 'oh cool!' kind of thing, even though the skybox is actually only rendered inside the camera and doesn't exist in the game world =S. |
| 03:07.11 | hp94 | As well, some of the messages are just bland - Targetable: False or You are invulnerable! in yellow - but, I guess that's just that way because it's not really part of the normal released version. |
| 03:07.18 | ZorbaTHut | I actually have no idea. I imagine there are knobs for debugging that, but I don't know if GM powers can do it, especially not serverside. |
| 03:08.07 | hp94 | Not serverside, each client goes by game time and renders the skybox with the appropriate material, based on location, then by time, then adds particle effects (like clouds that appear to 'move'). |
| 03:09.20 | ZorbaTHut | *shrug* could be. I really haven't looked into it. It's a big codebase. |
| 03:09.36 | hp94 | Also, "Auto-detect stealthed action:", stuff like that =S |
| 03:09.55 | hp94 | I guess, there's a lot of people on the development end I hear (more than the average for the size). |
| 03:10.14 | hp94 | But thats from like, some MMO podcasts if I remember correctly. |
| 03:20.23 | hp94 | Wow, gimp is horrible - an 8.3mb png file for something thats the resolution of my screen? |
| 03:22.41 | starlon | heh |
| 03:22.57 | hp94 | That's why Illustrator is the baws |
| 03:26.20 | hp94 | At least on photobucket it got compressed from 8,350kb to 378kb... that's actually pretty crazy... |
| 03:35.51 | lXl | PHOTOBUCKET? |
| 03:36.02 | hp94 | http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/desktop.png |
| 03:36.02 | hp94 | ?? |
| 03:36.06 | lXl | imgur.com |
| 03:36.07 | lXl | Use it |
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| 03:36.32 | lXl | HP, y u has so many icons? |
| 03:36.50 | hp94 | I really, really don't like imgur |
| 03:37.06 | ZorbaTHut | lxl, you'd hate my desktop. I've got hundreds. |
| 03:37.11 | lXl | Oh dear |
| 03:37.21 | lXl | Well as productivity goes up, so does desktop clutter |
| 03:37.32 | phoenik | ventrilo worm |
| 03:37.34 | phoenik | LOl |
| 03:37.40 | phoenik | sql inject |
| 03:37.53 | lXl | I like the *Easy* DDoS |
| 03:38.01 | hp94 | I think it's called Refref now |
| 03:38.18 | lXl | Yeah, try that on real servers. You'd get shut down lol. |
| 03:38.38 | hp94 | Refref took down pastebin for 42 mins recently |
| 03:39.06 | hp94 | Program only sent two packets - 42 minute downtime. |
| 03:39.16 | phoenik | only icon on my desktop is recyclebin |
| 03:39.40 | lXl | I really hope you only use this on dyndns addresses or something, do this to an actual hosted account could bring down hell on your head. |
| 03:42.44 | hp94 | sometimes I use it on MLP websites |
| 03:42.52 | hp94 | and sometimes you can force buffer overflows |
| 03:43.17 | hp94 | on big stuff too, like wordpress stuff - Actually... I think I might still have admin thanks to a friend at college today |
| 03:44.58 | hp94 | Although, refref got one person in trouble so far (that I've heard of): http://www.scribd.com/doc/66060156/Doyon-Covelli-Indictment |
| 03:46.18 | phoenik | zorbagama |
| 03:48.08 | phoenik | it's a dj name |
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| 04:11.54 | hp94 | This is what I feel like when I press f5 and my code finally compiles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8vJ_lMxQI&feature=related |
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| 04:28.14 | ZorbaGama | y'know, the most annoying part about being the guy writing the addon system is that, when I want to do something with addons, and I can't, I can't even blame someone else. |
| 04:28.36 | lXl | Like writing an addon? |
| 04:28.56 | ZorbaGama | like writing a specific addon :P |
| 04:29.02 | ZorbaGama | "I wish I had the api for _________" |
| 04:29.23 | lXl | Just complain that they probably don't pay the addon api dev enough :P |
| 04:29.42 | Marru_Laptop | lol |
| 04:29.44 | lXl | "Maybe if Trion paid me, him, enough then I could do this" |
| 04:29.55 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:44.18 | hp94 | What api have you wanted that you couldn't create? |
| 04:45.23 | Aurorus | The one that subtracts XP instead of increasing it if your name is 'hp' :P |
| 04:46.10 | Marru_Laptop | uhh zorba |
| 04:46.16 | Marru_Laptop | havin an issue with the pet thing |
| 04:46.42 | Marru_Laptop | the pets unit specifier is getting called player.pet some of the time |
| 04:47.03 | Marru_Laptop | but most of the time its getting called player.target or player.target.target |
| 04:48.14 | Marru_Laptop | scratch that, if i have the mob targeted, the pet is never refered to as player.pet, its always player.target or player.target.target |
| 04:51.32 | Marru_Laptop | anyone have any suggestions? |
| 04:51.41 | ZorbaGama | yep, if you look up a unit spec via unit.lookup, it'll just pick *one* of the valid unit specs |
| 04:52.09 | ZorbaGama | that's why, if you want a specific mapping of unitid-to-unitspec, you need to keep track of it yourself. |
| 04:52.24 | Marru_Laptop | is there any way to look up all the unit specifiers? |
| 04:52.44 | ZorbaGama | hp94, right now I want the ability to rearrange actual rift UI elements from within the addon system. |
| 04:52.57 | ZorbaGama | marru, there's inspect.unit.list, but note that it will, again, only give you one valid unit spec per known unit |
| 04:53.00 | starlon | :D |
| 04:53.05 | starlon | do eet |
| 04:53.11 | ZorbaGama | (in theory, you can have an infinite number of valid unit specs, and for obvious reasons I can't return that) |
| 04:53.28 | hp94 | (but you can try) |
| 04:53.33 | Marru_Laptop | hmm, hold on, when i do it the other way around? |
| 04:53.34 | hp94 | (plus I would) |
| 04:53.54 | hp94 | Anyways - what do you mean rearrange? Just being able to modify default frames with addons? |
| 04:54.15 | ZorbaGama | hp94, pretty much. I could make my arrangement more precise and place things where I actually want them |
| 04:54.21 | ZorbaGama | and adjust better to a resizing screen |
| 04:54.30 | hp94 | Or make a WoWTexture addon pack |
| 04:54.38 | ZorbaGama | the current system is pretty fantastic for something with a simple user interface |
| 04:54.42 | hp94 | *It's what everyone's thinking |
| 04:54.44 | ZorbaGama | but I'm a coder, and I want something else :) |
| 04:55.22 | Marru_Laptop | when i check for group members, could i do like a check for ppl with unit specifier group01 then check for group01.pet? will that always come back with their unit id? |
| 04:55.56 | hp94 | Hmm, have you ever considered allowing a 'run script' - not in lua, but will run a command in the client (What is it in - C#? C++?). Similar to console commands on softmodded games. |
| 04:56.15 | ZorbaGama | marru, Inspect.Unit.Lookup("group01") will give you the actual unit ID for group01 |
| 04:56.18 | ZorbaGama | that's how you're meant to do it |
| 04:56.36 | Marru_Laptop | ok, and same thing on "group01.pet" will that come back with the pets id? |
| 04:56.47 | ZorbaGama | yep. works on all unit specifiers. |
| 04:56.51 | Marru_Laptop | nice |
| 04:56.55 | ZorbaGama | group04.pet.target.target if you want, for example |
| 04:57.54 | Marru_Laptop | so if i do groupxx.pet check i'll have the unit id's for each pet in my raid |
| 04:58.02 | ZorbaGama | yep |
| 04:58.19 | Marru_Laptop | ok i think i can deal with that, now if the pet dies and the player resummons it |
| 04:58.23 | Marru_Laptop | will unit id change? |
| 04:58.35 | ZorbaGama | it could, yes |
| 04:58.41 | Marru_Laptop | joy |
| 04:59.43 | Marru_Laptop | so then i'll have to add tracking for pet deaths and all that... ugh |
| 04:59.58 | Marru_Laptop | w/e, version 1.0 is comin out without support for resummoning pets lol |
| 05:00.20 | ZorbaGama | if you use libunitchange, it'll let you know when those unit specifiers change :P |
| 05:00.35 | Marru_Laptop | what u mean when they change? |
| 05:00.52 | Marru_Laptop | when their id's change? |
| 05:01.02 | ZorbaGama | when group02.pet starts referring to a different unit id. |
| 05:01.08 | starlon | is going through changes. |
| 05:01.14 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 05:01.20 | Marru_Laptop | i guess i'll look into using that later |
| 05:01.34 | Marru_Laptop | but for now not dealing with pet resummons is ok |
| 05:01.51 | starlon | What are you writing? |
| 05:01.59 | Marru_Laptop | dps meter |
| 05:02.02 | starlon | ah |
| 05:02.17 | Marru_Laptop | yeah... bad idea for a first ever addon lol |
| 05:02.26 | starlon | hehe |
| 05:02.31 | Marru_Laptop | o well |
| 05:03.03 | lXl | You'll learn a lot about good data management though. |
| 05:03.09 | Marru_Laptop | yeah |
| 05:03.14 | Marru_Laptop | its a great learning experience lol |
| 05:10.33 | Marru_Laptop | btw zorba, why couldn't it be group1 through 20 insteand of group01 through 20 lol |
| 05:11.35 | ZorbaGama | I like making sure things can be alphabeticalized easily |
| 05:11.50 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 05:12.11 | Marru_Laptop | well its makin for a lot of "group".."0"..i or "group"..i checks |
| 05:12.31 | Marru_Laptop | probly me bein inefficent and not sure how better to do it |
| 05:12.31 | ZorbaGama | string.format("group%02d", i) |
| 05:12.56 | Marru_Laptop | ok, what does %02d do? |
| 05:13.07 | ZorbaGama | look it up :) |
| 05:13.25 | Marru_Laptop | fine... imma finish what im doin this way then i'll look at that and consider consolidating lol |
| 05:36.16 | Marru_Laptop | great now im getting dps measurements from my pet but apparently hes putting out 2844 dps... |
| 05:36.31 | Marru_Laptop | i need a break, bbl |
| 05:38.44 | hp94 | My pet does 2844 dps too |
| 05:38.57 | lXl | Mine does if I spec 51 |
| 05:39.05 | hp94 | Yep |
| 05:39.16 | lXl | If I go 31/x he only does 2844 dps |
| 05:39.45 | hp94 | My pets dps is only that low when he's not attacking though. 2844? I could count that high in like 3 seconds |
| 05:39.46 | seebs | %02d is 0-padded, print at least two digits, decimal. |
| 05:39.58 | hp94 | Plus im a warrior |
| 05:40.57 | starlon | o.O |
| 05:41.15 | starlon | we're talking damage per second or total accumulated damage? |
| 05:41.20 | hp94 | per second |
| 05:41.27 | hp94 | being really sarcastic though....online... |
| 05:41.37 | starlon | :) |
| 05:41.40 | lXl | Does your pet do 2844 damage per second, starlon? |
| 05:41.46 | starlon | nope |
| 05:41.46 | hp94 | ours do |
| 05:41.56 | hp94 | it might be a skill issue |
| 05:41.56 | hp94 | lol |
| 05:42.03 | starlon | :P |
| 05:42.04 | hp94 | we kid we kid |
| 05:42.23 | starlon | stands in the fire. |
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| 05:43.39 | Marru_Laptop | back |
| 05:44.12 | hp94 | man, I still can't get in to rift though |
| 05:44.22 | hp94 | it auto-crashes on every log in with one guy |
| 05:44.40 | hp94 | and if I kill the error handler, it just freezes (doesn't crash or send report) |
| 05:45.41 | starlon | must be EasyDDoS backfiring |
| 05:46.36 | hp94 | easy ddos is old, it can't pump out buffer overflows like it used to |
| 05:46.38 | Aurorus | well, last two days have been crazy |
| 05:46.41 | Aurorus | I'll say that much |
| 05:46.52 | hp94 | besides, its for remote machine intrusions |
| 05:46.57 | hp94 | what happened, aurorus? |
| 05:48.30 | Marru_Laptop | wow, i feel retarded |
| 05:48.49 | hp94 | Welcome to my world. |
| 05:48.53 | hp94 | Every day im shufflin. |
| 05:48.54 | Marru_Laptop | i had my pet dmg check for player.pet inside my 20 count for loop... |
| 05:48.58 | Marru_Laptop | hence the 2844 dps |
| 05:49.16 | Aurorus | ohh, I left the office at 12:40am today (16 or so hours) back in a 8am and then home for a few hours because I have software at home and then back here to the office at almost 4pm |
| 05:49.17 | seebs | ... 2844 is not a multiple of 20 |
| 05:49.23 | lXl | So, your pet does only 284.4dps? |
| 05:49.26 | Aurorus | So far, I don't know if I'm home or if I'm at work :/ |
| 05:49.31 | hp94 | seebs: logic is not welcome here. |
| 05:49.37 | lXl | seebs, its per second. |
| 05:49.41 | Marru_Laptop | it was multiple hits averaged over a timer |
| 05:49.46 | seebs | ahh |
| 05:49.47 | lXl | His pet may have not done damage in multiples of 60. |
| 05:49.54 | lXl | Or wait, |
| 05:49.56 | lXl | Whatever |
| 05:50.02 | hp94 | my pets always do damage in multiples of 60. |
| 05:50.03 | seebs | Stupid pet! It should conform to my unconsidered expectations. |
| 05:50.08 | hp94 | always. |
| 05:50.25 | seebs | <-- has a nasty cold and is pretty much incoherent |
| 05:50.30 | lXl | It would be in multiples of timeframe(seconds) |
| 05:51.13 | lXl | I'm playing EvE for some reason |
| 05:53.41 | Marru_Laptop | any chance any of you have defiant characters on pts you could help me test with? |
| 05:53.50 | hp94 | sure |
| 05:53.53 | hp94 | I've got one at 50 |
| 05:54.51 | lXl | I'd like to live on an island |
| 05:55.54 | Aurorus | lives in Australia |
| 05:56.16 | Marru_Laptop | damn |
| 05:56.24 | Marru_Laptop | just found a big flaw in my program |
| 05:56.29 | hp94 | where do you want my guy to be? |
| 05:56.33 | lXl | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ewQuGGy0QbI/SwYZ9w9yJLI/AAAAAAAAAXA/sbGgHlse07E/s320/kanga-school.jpg |
| 05:56.35 | Aurorus | what's the flaw? |
| 05:56.41 | Aurorus | lol lXl |
| 05:57.14 | Marru_Laptop | i tried to save resources by setting a firstrun boolean |
| 05:57.51 | Marru_Laptop | so if its the first run it creates new frames for each group member |
| 05:58.17 | Marru_Laptop | but if new group members enter, it doesn't create new frames for them and causes errors when u try to do stuff with them because they dont exist |
| 05:59.10 | Marru_Laptop | so without creating 20 new frames every time u enter combat |
| 05:59.30 | Marru_Laptop | i need a way to check if the frame exists i guess |
| 06:00.06 | Aurorus | Marru_Laptop: can I suggest an architecture? |
| 06:00.13 | Marru_Laptop | of course |
| 06:01.06 | Aurorus | Ideally, you want to separate your units of logic into formation (i.e. the group is put together, whether first time or a second time), process (the dps logic happens) and the feedback (the display / update of frames) |
| 06:01.22 | Aurorus | The process and feedback steps you have sorted, I believe |
| 06:01.41 | hp94 | marru, whats your characters name in the pts? |
| 06:01.52 | Marru_Laptop | its marru |
| 06:01.55 | Marru_Laptop | ohw ait |
| 06:01.58 | Marru_Laptop | no im on cruorr |
| 06:02.30 | Marru_Laptop | aurorus want me to just tell u the structure i have atm? |
| 06:03.00 | Aurorus | sure Marru_Laptop |
| 06:03.16 | Marru_Laptop | right now i have an event that triggers when you enter combat |
| 06:03.27 | Marru_Laptop | when that happens it takes a look at your group formation |
| 06:03.47 | Marru_Laptop | runs through group01 through group20 and creates frames for them if they exist |
| 06:04.02 | Marru_Laptop | and if its the first time you've entered combat <--- the HUGE flaw |
| 06:04.48 | Marru_Laptop | it also then sets it to initialized and any further event.combat.damage is recorded into tables for players |
| 06:05.00 | Aurorus | gotcha, that makes sense |
| 06:05.19 | Marru_Laptop | and on each frame update, it checks the damage done / current timer to get dps |
| 06:05.35 | Aurorus | Would you consider creating the frames for them only when they record some action? I.e. 5 people enter combat, only 2 take actions, therefore only two are created. |
| 06:05.57 | Marru_Laptop | and updates each frame with the player or group members name and dps |
| 06:06.04 | Aurorus | This means that over 2 - 5 seconds that it takes for a group to get into combat (they don't do it instantly all at once) you create everyone's frames |
| 06:06.24 | Marru_Laptop | the problem with that is theres only one way to check combat, and thats on yourself |
| 06:06.26 | Aurorus | The effect is a very fluid (non-lagging) indicator that is imperceptibly staggereed |
| 06:06.36 | Marru_Laptop | i can't check when the first player enters combat |
| 06:06.58 | starlon | Marru: Are you creating brand new frames each time entering combat? |
| 06:07.05 | Marru_Laptop | no |
| 06:07.09 | starlon | k |
| 06:07.16 | hp94 | wow, its been a LONG time since i've been on the PTS - the only addon that still works of mine is the calculator =S |
| 06:07.19 | Marru_Laptop | im creating brand new frames the first time for each group member |
| 06:07.26 | starlon | ah |
| 06:07.26 | Marru_Laptop | the problem is if i have just myself |
| 06:07.29 | Marru_Laptop | i enter combat |
| 06:07.31 | Marru_Laptop | leave combat |
| 06:07.40 | Marru_Laptop | firstrun is now false |
| 06:07.43 | Aurorus | Then is it possible to create an accurate DPS meter? i.e. if someone has fought for 100 seconds and has a 500dps, you come in with a 2000 attack at the last second, you'll show yourself as 2000 dps.... |
| 06:08.38 | Marru_Laptop | and if i invite someone, and enter combat it errors because the program refers to that second players frame but because there wasn't 2 players the first comat entry |
| 06:08.52 | lXl | Maybe dig through Recounts code see the structure they used? |
| 06:09.24 | lXl | WoW's combat limitations weren't any different, hell the only way you could tell combat was regen enabled/disabled and that was iffy sometimes. |
| 06:09.42 | Marru_Laptop | i do have a solution actually |
| 06:09.49 | Aurorus | could WoW's addons talk amongst themselves? |
| 06:10.18 | Marru_Laptop | i was going to add a new boolean to each frame rather then combat entry as a whole |
| 06:10.23 | starlon | could create a frame for each unit ID as opposed to each unit specifier. |
| 06:10.37 | Marru_Laptop | that would create more frames and be less efficient |
| 06:11.04 | Marru_Laptop | i can just add dpsMeter.Raid[i].created true or false |
| 06:11.10 | Marru_Laptop | and if its false it creates one |
| 06:11.13 | Marru_Laptop | if its true it doesn't |
| 06:12.35 | Marru_Laptop | its just gonna require replacing dpsMeter.Raid[i] with dpsMeter.Raid[i].frame |
| 06:13.04 | hp94 | hey wait a minute |
| 06:13.07 | hp94 | Zorbathut |
| 06:13.31 | hp94 | the assets and subfolder stuff changed from 1.4 to 1.5? |
| 06:13.44 | ZorbaGama | nope, don't think so |
| 06:15.00 | hp94 | assets 100% something big changed, other stuff not so sure |
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| 06:16.16 | Marru_Laptop | hp back to testing if ur ready |
| 06:18.27 | hp94 | im still here |
| 06:18.33 | hp94 | just dc'ing/crashing alot |
| 06:18.45 | Marru_Laptop | np |
| 06:18.59 | Marru_Laptop | its erroring on me for setpoint now... hmm |
| 06:19.13 | hp94 | np |
| 06:19.29 | hp94 | I can't move, so walk over and request a duel when you want to fight |
| 06:19.37 | Marru_Laptop | oh found it |
| 06:19.40 | Marru_Laptop | why can't you move? |
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| 06:19.58 | Snstr | good morning |
| 06:20.28 | Marru_Laptop | morning |
| 06:20.38 | starlon | morning |
| 06:20.40 | Marru_Laptop | sry hp u were in combat and i had to reloadui and it freaked cuz of that |
| 06:20.46 | hp94 | morning |
| 06:20.59 | hp94 | im not in combat, I just logged out/in |
| 06:21.14 | Marru_Laptop | it had me in combat then for some reason... |
| 06:21.17 | Marru_Laptop | reinvite |
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| 06:27.06 | hp94 | I was dc'ing/crashing cause my pet was dealing too much damage for me to handle |
| 06:27.15 | hp94 | like, 60*2844 dps |
| 06:28.33 | lXl | At least it's in a multiple of 60 |
| 06:28.45 | lXl | You shouldn't have crashed from that |
| 06:28.46 | hp94 | always is |
| 06:30.01 | lXl | I want to make my own soda |
| 06:31.31 | Marru_Laptop | i almost just wanna pastebin my code and see if you guys can figure this out... |
| 06:32.04 | Marru_Laptop | but testing just now with hp94 we entered combat and i set a print statement to print if a group member had a pet |
| 06:32.14 | Marru_Laptop | and it didn't show |
| 06:32.22 | Marru_Laptop | and i was getting errors when his pet was doin dmb |
| 06:32.23 | Marru_Laptop | *dmg |
| 06:33.10 | hp94 | laundry's almost done lol |
| 06:33.24 | hp94 | just waiting for the ring =D |
| 06:34.09 | Marru_Laptop | ok so i just tested this |
| 06:34.15 | Marru_Laptop | in game in group with him |
| 06:34.42 | Marru_Laptop | i did /script dump(Inspect.Unit.Lookup("group01.pet")) and it dumped a unit id at me |
| 06:35.01 | Marru_Laptop | if its just a group with me and him, im group01 right? so he should be group02? lets see if his pet shows |
| 06:35.12 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 06:35.19 | Marru_Laptop | got a unit id for group02.pet |
| 06:35.32 | Marru_Laptop | but my program isn't spitting it out like it should when it runs its check |
| 06:35.59 | hp94 | brb |
| 06:36.07 | hp94 | actually, probably going to go to sleep after laundry |
| 06:36.09 | hp94 | sorry =S |
| 06:36.22 | Marru_Laptop | np |
| 06:38.24 | Marru_Laptop | ok i think i fixed it |
| 06:38.46 | Marru_Laptop | can anyone get on a defiant on pts and get a pet out? |
| 06:41.00 | starlon | I'm on atm. |
| 06:41.12 | Marru_Laptop | name? |
| 06:41.23 | starlon | starlon |
| 06:44.52 | Marru_Laptop | ok nvm im confused |
| 06:45.01 | Marru_Laptop | starlons pet started attacking way late |
| 06:45.19 | Marru_Laptop | and his dps just kept increasing higher then it should have |
| 06:48.10 | starlon | my pet was doing 10-12dps |
| 06:48.33 | Aurorus | Are you calculating total damage / total time taken? |
| 06:50.06 | Marru_Laptop | yeah |
| 06:50.16 | Marru_Laptop | and know ur pet was doin 100 from what i saw |
| 06:50.18 | Marru_Laptop | which is normal |
| 06:50.36 | Marru_Laptop | but im getting errors after a while saying damage is nil |
| 06:51.17 | Marru_Laptop | and the error is coming from the event.combat.damage damage paramter |
| 06:51.20 | Marru_Laptop | *parameter |
| 06:51.31 | Marru_Laptop | i guess i have to check if his damage is not nil? |
| 06:51.36 | Marru_Laptop | zorba are you on? |
| 06:51.41 | starlon | hmm, maybe my dps meter's broke |
| 06:51.54 | Marru_Laptop | are you using a 3rd party parser? |
| 06:52.08 | starlon | I'm using my tooltip addon |
| 06:52.12 | starlon | has a dps line |
| 06:52.21 | Marru_Laptop | hmm, what are u using to record that dps? |
| 06:52.32 | starlon | same stuff you're using. events |
| 06:52.47 | starlon | I'm only considering event.combat.damage though |
| 06:52.52 | Marru_Laptop | me too |
| 06:53.05 | Marru_Laptop | but where are you getting ur time? |
| 06:54.11 | Marru_Laptop | try again starlon |
| 06:54.44 | starlon | inspect.time.real |
| 06:58.31 | Marru_Laptop | anyone here actually play rift and know what dps parsers should look like for pets? |
| 06:59.59 | Aurorus | about 100 dps at level 50 for a warrior |
| 07:00.04 | Aurorus | same for a cleric |
| 07:03.44 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 07:03.48 | Marru_Laptop | then my readings are weird |
| 07:03.59 | Marru_Laptop | gonna throw in a print statement in there |
| 07:04.08 | Marru_Laptop | see whats happenin |
| 07:04.09 | Marru_Laptop | also |
| 07:04.27 | Marru_Laptop | i know we can't delete frames, but any other way to reset them other then like alpha 0? |
| 07:04.56 | Marru_Laptop | like can we at least stop showing em? |
| 07:06.01 | starlon | There's :ClearAll for clearing points and width/height |
| 07:06.38 | Marru_Laptop | so does that basicly make it not there? |
| 07:07.02 | starlon | I'm not going to say yes, but I'd think it should at least. |
| 07:07.06 | Marru_Laptop | ok |
| 07:07.08 | Marru_Laptop | will try |
| 07:07.14 | starlon | If it has no points. It's likely not onscreen? |
| 07:07.21 | Marru_Laptop | kk |
| 07:10.03 | Marru_Laptop | so in my enter combat function |
| 07:10.15 | starlon | There's also :SetVisible(false) for hiding |
| 07:10.29 | Marru_Laptop | if the frame is not created, im creating it, if it is created, im doing ClearAll |
| 07:10.31 | Marru_Laptop | hmm |
| 07:10.56 | Marru_Laptop | actually this wont do anything with group member 4 if he leaves and im down to 3 kind of a situation |
| 07:11.13 | Marru_Laptop | so i'll do an else and ClearAll the rest |
| 07:11.17 | Marru_Laptop | see what happens |
| 07:12.05 | starlon | makes me wonder what happens to frames anchored to a relative frame that gets ClearAll'd. |
| 07:13.17 | Marru_Laptop | well my addon creates those anchors everytime you enter combat |
| 07:13.22 | Marru_Laptop | but |
| 07:13.23 | starlon | ah |
| 07:13.37 | Marru_Laptop | if we were in a raid situation |
| 07:13.47 | Marru_Laptop | and have groups organized oddly |
| 07:14.03 | Marru_Laptop | so there was a group07 and group09 but no group08 kinda thing |
| 07:14.20 | Marru_Laptop | right now my addon group09 would be anchored to a non existent group08 |
| 07:14.32 | starlon | bugger |
| 07:14.57 | Marru_Laptop | guess im adding another variable, "hidden" and if its trying to anchor to something hidden it'll look back 1 more i guess |
| 07:15.13 | Marru_Laptop | granted this will be replaced once i deal with sorting by dps |
| 07:15.24 | Marru_Laptop | so i'll deal with that later if i need to... |
| 07:15.45 | starlon | well if group01 through group03 exist, then shouldn't group02 exist as well? And when group02 leaves, then wouldn't group03 then become group02? |
| 07:15.59 | Marru_Laptop | if your in a 5 man group yes |
| 07:16.05 | starlon | Ah |
| 07:16.18 | Marru_Laptop | but if ur in a raid you can have 3 people in group 1, 2 people in group 2 etc |
| 07:16.28 | Marru_Laptop | and so numbering might not stay sequential |
| 07:16.28 | starlon | oh |
| 07:16.37 | starlon | I see |
| 07:16.38 | Marru_Laptop | it might be based on their position in the raid |
| 07:17.30 | starlon | I don't see how people do 2k dps |
| 07:17.37 | starlon | I can't even do 1k lol |
| 07:17.46 | Marru_Laptop | i do 1k on my cleric |
| 07:17.51 | starlon | heh |
| 07:17.54 | Marru_Laptop | 2k is special theorycrafted specs |
| 07:18.01 | starlon | nods. |
| 07:18.05 | Marru_Laptop | and only rogues and warriors can really pull that off |
| 07:18.30 | Marru_Laptop | raid buffed i've hit 1200ish |
| 07:18.33 | Marru_Laptop | i think thats my highest |
| 07:18.44 | starlon | ah |
| 07:23.04 | starlon | Seems there's only ever rogues on the training dummies. I see a warrior every now and again. Maybe a mage seldomly. |
| 07:23.34 | Marru_Laptop | well rogues have huge changes in this upcoming patch |
| 07:23.40 | Marru_Laptop | so their all checkin em out |
| 07:23.49 | Marru_Laptop | warriors mages n clerics dont have a whole lot changin |
| 07:24.06 | starlon | I see. |
| 07:24.24 | Marru_Laptop | ok so i fixed the code so it should reset the frames |
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| 08:15.24 | Marru_Laptop | that help you star? |
| 08:17.09 | starlon | yeah, discovered a bug |
| 08:17.14 | Marru_Laptop | cool |
| 08:17.49 | Marru_Laptop | aight shuttin down |
| 08:17.50 | Marru_Laptop | night |
| 08:17.57 | starlon | night |
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| 08:47.49 | starlon | wishes he knew what caused this: http://imgur.com/tkVRR |
| 08:48.04 | starlon | all the text frames are grouped uptopleft |
| 08:48.39 | starlon | it only lasts for a split second |
| 08:48.50 | starlon | when mousing over multiple units fast |
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| 12:26.52 | Sunspots | Hm, trying to find a good way to manage group frames if members are added/removed while in safe mode... |
| 12:28.57 | Sunspots | If a transparent frame has a mouseover unit but that target doesn't exist, will the mouseover be passed through? |
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| 12:58.49 | Snarty | I have working raid frames but I'm just waiting until 1.5 so I can get good test results with public groups. |
| 13:41.20 | Sunspots | cool |
| 13:41.40 | Sunspots | I'm guessing yours will be more gracious than mine but I think I'll finifh and release mine anyway |
| 13:42.00 | Sunspots | What's the main focus of your raid frames? |
| 13:52.34 | Snarty | it's used for click dispel/healing combined with mouseover macro's. Obviously the long winded hacky way atm |
| 13:53.50 | Snarty | but currently it provides better info than Trions raid frames. Ie, doesn't display endless amounts of non-dispellable debuffs (via filters), and better monitoring of buffs. Plus changes peoples HP bars depending on debuff applied. |
| 13:57.20 | Snarty | gave on my boss mod for the time being, there's no secure way of knowing when the encounter ends. (not that I've found yet) |
| 13:57.25 | Snarty | up+ |
| 13:58.20 | Snarty | might be different in a real group/raid situation, solo it's very messy. Losing boss availablity when targetting adds etc |
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| 16:24.20 | Snstr | There is no Line of Sight check yet right? Or if a player is out of a certain distance? Like it shows in the standard raid frame |
| 16:25.54 | Sunspots | Unfortunately, I don't think there is |
| 16:27.42 | Snstr | lets chain zorba to his chair - MUST PROGRAM MORE! |
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| 16:40.12 | Marru_Laptop | did something change in the API with secure mode since last night? |
| 16:46.01 | Marru_Laptop | anyone figure out how secure mode works at all? |
| 16:46.17 | Marru_Laptop | no where in my code did i do anything with secure mode and it was workin last night |
| 16:46.24 | nicoli_s | ZorbaGama does :P |
| 16:47.03 | Marru_Laptop | now if i have group members and enter combat it freaks and says i can't use setpoint on a frame with secure mode restricted |
| 16:48.03 | Marru_Laptop | i never set anything as restricted, and i've even tried setting everything to secure mode "normal" |
| 16:53.03 | Marru_Laptop | any ideas? |
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| 17:02.12 | pixeldev | So many changes |
| 17:03.01 | Marru_Laptop | today? |
| 17:09.03 | pixeldev | welll yesterday, , the 23, and 22nd im just reading up on |
| 17:10.00 | Marru_Laptop | oh, well yesterday mine was working, now secure mode is freaking out |
| 17:12.20 | pixeldev | gonna love this [notactive] thing in macro |
| 17:12.29 | pixeldev | as a mage / cleric |
| 17:16.42 | pixeldev | so theyre using luaJIT right? |
| 17:22.03 | pixeldev | yeh "luaJIT_version_2_0_0_beta6" actually a thread in pastebin nice |
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| 20:27.31 | nicoli_s | so when does the patch release again? |
| 20:47.56 | Sling | my bets are on tommorrow |
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| 22:07.40 | Marru_Home | anyone successfuly do the frame.event:move thing? |
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| 22:58.02 | Marru_Home | anyone work with moving frames yet?] |
| 22:58.56 | nicoli_s | i think yer probably the first |
| 22:59.08 | Marru_Home | lol how? |
| 23:05.33 | nicoli_s | well id say the majority of the addon authors for rift are in this room |
| 23:05.40 | nicoli_s | so if no one else has dont it here, yer prob the first |
| 23:06.08 | Marru_Home | but they launch 2morow, why hasn't anyone tried to get their addons to be moveable? |
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| 23:17.59 | Aurorus | lol, I love the email I got |
| 23:19.19 | Cairenn | ZorbaGama: ping? |
| 23:23.24 | Aurorus | "We are gearing up to the launch of Diablo III. If you want access to the beta, send us your name, last name, battle.net account name and password." |
| 23:25.03 | Aurorus | â¦.yeah, right |
| 23:29.21 | Cairenn | yeah ... |
| 23:45.49 | Aurorus | So, 1.5 coming tonight? |
| 23:46.00 | Cairenn | That's the rumour |
| 23:46.51 | Aurorus | I bet I'll be chained in the office :( |
| 23:47.04 | Aurorus | I need a hot (female) boss to make it worthwhile |
| 23:47.06 | Aurorus | :P |
