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| 04:17.46 | Cairenn | hi EWOlson |
| 04:18.11 | EWOlson | Hello. |
| 04:30.02 | Lyme | Hmm, I wonder if encounter messages will be available as an event in 1.5 |
| 04:38.01 | Cairenn | arches an eyebrow at ZorbaTHut |
| 04:43.18 | Aurorus | Cairenn turns even the most stoic of men into jelly which her eyebrows. |
| 04:43.25 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:43.25 | Aurorus | with* |
| 04:43.32 | Cairenn | smoogles Aurorus |
| 04:43.52 | Aurorus | That, ladies and gentlemen, is what I call an "epic win" :D |
| 04:44.05 | Cairenn | blushes |
| 04:44.09 | Aurorus | hehe |
| 04:47.59 | Lyme | So anyhow, as I'm sure most of you have played WoW. There was an addon that would catch phrases and such that went to the chat log and during an encounter (raid) would then instruct the appropriate person to do something. |
| 04:48.24 | EWOlson | And? |
| 04:48.39 | Lyme | Tonight while doing Alsbeth, it would have been very useful to be able to flash a message in the middle of the screen that told those who were being wracked to run. |
| 04:48.55 | EWOlson | You want someone to write an addon like that? |
| 04:49.00 | EWOlson | Not sure what you are getting at. |
| 04:49.59 | Lyme | There are two ways to go about doing that. a) monitor all the text [which can be time consuming] b) have an event for such things as part of the api. I'm curious if there will be an api event. |
| 04:50.17 | Lyme | I'm not suggesting anyone except Zorba write anything. |
| 04:50.33 | EWOlson | I haven't heard of a capability to do that yet. |
| 04:50.35 | EWOlson | I could be wrong. |
| 04:50.49 | EWOlson | I've yet to really dig into the API yet. |
| 04:51.04 | EWOlson | Seems very limited from what I've seen so far. |
| 04:51.43 | Cairenn | It is, deliberately. Zorba is taking his time, they don't want to make the same mistakes Blizz did. |
| 04:52.14 | EWOlson | Yep, I get that. |
| 04:52.17 | Lyme | Plus it takes a long time to develop the underlying support code |
| 04:52.25 | EWOlson | I'm sure. |
| 04:52.27 | Cairenn | That too ;) |
| 04:52.38 | EWOlson | Just saying I haven't seen anything that would allow that type of thing yet. |
| 04:52.58 | Lyme | The underlying point is that Zorba trolls here, and it is helpful for me if I post what I'm thinking of and why, so that he can determine the appropriateness of such. |
| 04:53.03 | EWOlson | An outside script could get the info, but other than automation there would be no way to broadcast that in game. |
| 04:53.19 | EWOlson | Yep, I see him logged in. |
| 04:54.48 | Lyme | it would be an addon of such, I know that there is the ability to flash the text (so to speak). hmm.. does event.buff.add show debuffs.. probably. |
| 04:55.54 | EWOlson | Yeah, you can get buffs. |
| 04:56.38 | Lyme | that would potentially work. |
| 04:57.38 | EWOlson | But that addon wouldn't be able to broadcast a message. |
| 04:57.41 | EWOlson | the* |
| 04:57.53 | Lyme | to that player it can, just not to the group |
| 04:58.22 | EWOlson | I see nothing to send messages. |
| 04:59.09 | Lyme | Create a frame, add text |
| 04:59.24 | EWOlson | Oh, you mean for each person to run. |
| 04:59.31 | Lyme | exactly |
| 04:59.34 | EWOlson | I thought you wanted an addon to issue warnings to others. |
| 05:00.48 | Lyme | ahh, well that depends on if the buff.add event shows you buffs that others in the raid get |
| 05:01.02 | Cairenn | "Is this guy crazy?" "No, but he's a carrier." "My superiors aren't going to like this." "I AM your superior, sit on that chair." |
| 05:01.24 | Lyme | for example the stacking debuff, if you can catch the debuff on others in the raid you could have everone else get a message. |
| 05:01.44 | Lyme | what you talking about? |
| 05:01.58 | Cairenn | (sorry, classic line from the movie I'm watching) |
| 05:02.37 | EWOlson | I'm not sure if you are trying if you are trying to make an addon for you to run to warn others, or one that everyone runs. |
| 05:02.56 | EWOlson | If the latter then you can do it. |
| 05:03.22 | EWOlson | if you are trying X 2. Fail. |
| 05:04.01 | EWOlson | You can do a BossMod type addon. If that is your question. |
| 05:04.12 | Lyme | ya, like that |
| 05:04.27 | EWOlson | But you can't make one that only you run that will warn others. |
| 05:04.39 | EWOlson | There are no functions to send information to other players. |
| 05:04.50 | Lyme | oh no, when I say "you run" I mean in the game you physically run around |
| 05:05.09 | Lyme | everyone would have to use the addon for the benefits |
| 05:05.19 | EWOlson | OK. That you can do. |
| 05:06.11 | EWOlson | Now whether you can convince them all to run it is another question. |
| 05:06.34 | EWOlson | Seems to be a lot of resistance to addons in RIFT even though it has been clearly stated that they were always going to be included. |
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| 05:07.44 | Lyme | People can choose to do what they want, if they choose not to run the addon and fail to do the correct action when they get a specific debuff, they have chosen to deal with the concurrences of their own actions. |
| 05:07.57 | EWOlson | Agreed. |
| 05:08.49 | Cairenn | errr, do you mean consequences? |
| 05:08.54 | EWOlson | This conversation reminds me of: http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ |
| 05:09.00 | Cairenn | teases Lyme |
| 05:09.07 | EWOlson | I knew what he meant. |
| 05:09.33 | Cairenn | I figured you did, that had nothing to do with me teasing him. ;) |
| 05:09.38 | Lyme | you repeatedly kill a significant number of people in a raid, you might not be on the top of the invite list for the next raid |
| 05:09.39 | EWOlson | lol |
| 05:09.52 | EWOlson | Agreed, Lyme. |
| 05:10.05 | Lyme | never saw that link. |
| 05:10.09 | EWOlson | I'm seeing people have issues with just normal dungeons right now. :-( |
| 05:10.31 | EWOlson | Like destroy the earth shard or get away from the fire shard. /sigh |
| 05:11.14 | Lyme | hehe, I got that lots in pubs |
| 05:11.34 | EWOlson | Yeah, that's what I'm doing. PUGs. /sigh |
| 05:11.51 | EWOlson | Need to at least get a dog for my trouble. lol |
| 05:11.55 | EWOlson | Trion!!! |
| 05:12.35 | Lyme | I find more than not, that when doing pugs I have to teach the group how to do the dungeon and all the encounters. |
| 05:13.25 | EWOlson | Yeah... |
| 05:13.49 | Lyme | oh, and difficulty of playing classes is rogue>mage>cleric>warrior.. god are warriors dead easy to play |
| 05:14.58 | EWOlson | I've found my mage easier. |
| 05:15.07 | Lyme | but my guild is great, not too hardcore, not too casual. |
| 05:15.10 | Lyme | Easier than? |
| 05:15.14 | EWOlson | Warrior. |
| 05:15.17 | EWOlson | imo |
| 05:15.20 | Lyme | level 50? |
| 05:15.23 | EWOlson | No. |
| 05:15.32 | Lyme | you'll change you mind when you get there |
| 05:15.34 | EWOlson | I just started playing RIFT like a week or two ago. |
| 05:16.01 | EWOlson | Kept hearing about it, but I've been burned by other MMOs before. |
| 05:16.14 | EWOlson | Kept going back to WoW after getting disgusted. |
| 05:16.23 | EWOlson | Really like RIFT though. |
| 05:16.25 | Lyme | The difficulty level of playing each class at the lower levels is not truly indicative of that at level cap. |
| 05:16.34 | EWOlson | Oh, I'm sure. |
| 05:16.44 | EWOlson | I'll just be glad to hit cap on any class. lol |
| 05:16.58 | Lyme | I played wow quite a bit, and eq, and eve, and others, rift is good. That being said all mmo's are generally based on the same general mechanics |
| 05:16.59 | EWOlson | I see addons cutting into my play time again. :-( |
| 05:17.23 | EWOlson | That's true, but I've never found anything I liked like WoW until RIFT. |
| 05:17.23 | Lyme | level cap is reasonably easy to get to, not superfast but not much of a grind either. |
| 05:17.56 | EWOlson | Yeah, I'm probably doing it wrong. |
| 05:17.58 | EWOlson | I'll get there. |
| 05:18.15 | Lyme | like most it takes progressively longer to do each level. |
| 05:18.21 | EWOlson | Yep. |
| 05:18.47 | EWOlson | I'm just sad that I can't do any of my addons yet. |
| 05:19.04 | EWOlson | I don't see the functionality for any of the addons I did for WoW. |
| 05:19.34 | Lyme | True, but it is coming. Even in wow it took a while to get addons in the game. |
| 05:20.01 | EWOlson | Oh, I know it's coming. Gives me more time to play I guess. lol |
| 05:21.08 | Cairenn | Lyme: aaaccccttttuuuuuaaaaaly .... there were addons in WoW while it was still in F&FA |
| 05:21.24 | Lyme | I played the open beta |
| 05:21.56 | EWOlson | Yeah, and they ended up with addons that were bots. lol |
| 05:22.10 | EWOlson | Then had to backtrack fast. I remember that. |
| 05:23.00 | EWOlson | What is Purple IRC, Cairenn? Never heard of that one. |
| 05:23.22 | Cairenn | No, bots are bots. The last thing we need to do is start getting those terms mixed up within our own community, end users are misinformed enough as it is. |
| 05:23.31 | Cairenn | Pidgin, and stop pinging me already :p |
| 05:23.31 | Lyme | I cannot remember there being addons at release. Then again it wasn't long after release either, but it did take a while for the really useful addons to come out. |
| 05:23.48 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:23.59 | EWOlson | Oh, I mean bots. They had addons playing the game for you. |
| 05:24.15 | Cairenn | Yeah, but those aren't addons, those are bots. ;) |
| 05:24.22 | EWOlson | They were addons. |
| 05:24.29 | EWOlson | They were addons that were bots. |
| 05:24.33 | EWOlson | They played the game for you. |
| 05:24.39 | EWOlson | They ran in Lua using the addon system. |
| 05:24.40 | Lyme | yep, there was a healer bot |
| 05:24.44 | EWOlson | Yep. |
| 05:24.54 | Aurorus | Sometimes I feel like a healer bot |
| 05:24.58 | Cairenn | You guys are missing the point I'm making. |
| 05:25.15 | Torhal | But your hair is covering it |
| 05:25.18 | Torhal | I mean... |
| 05:25.20 | Torhal | hides. |
| 05:25.25 | Cairenn | pokes Torhal |
| 05:25.29 | Lyme | not at all, you say there was functionality from the get go, and I'm saying I don't beleive that is the case. |
| 05:25.32 | Cairenn | You best be careful there Torhal |
| 05:25.50 | EWOlson | I didn't start playing WoW until a few months after release. |
| 05:25.52 | Cairenn | Lyme: no, well, yes, but that's not the main point I was making |
| 05:26.00 | Torhal | Cairenn: Bah! |
| 05:26.05 | Lyme | Oh, I hope it isn't a sharp one then |
| 05:27.26 | Cairenn | The main point I was making is that we don't want to go around calling addons bots or vice versa, because (in the main part) they are (usually) two completely different things and if we start using them both, then the misinformed and uneducated end users are going to just use our words to prove their ignorant views |
| 05:28.05 | EWOlson | While a bot isn't normally an addon, that isn't to say a bot can't be an addon. |
| 05:28.07 | Cairenn | Some people used the addon api to create bots in vanilla wow, yes, but those were bots |
| 05:28.22 | Cairenn | what did I just say? *bangs head on desk* |
| 05:28.22 | EWOlson | They were addons too. |
| 05:28.27 | Torhal | grumbles. |
| 05:28.34 | Lyme | I wouldn't worry about it Cairenn, people will insist on being stupid. |
| 05:29.18 | Aurorus | grumps for effect and co-miseration |
| 05:29.20 | EWOlson | OK, let's look at it this way. A program to send instant messages is still an IM program. Doesn't matter if it is written in C++ or Lua. |
| 05:29.24 | Lyme | some simply insist on being stupid |
| 05:30.09 | Aurorus | I think we can agree that it's a grey area. E.g. macros allow the execution of sets of skills and commands. |
| 05:30.32 | Aurorus | Having an addon API that allows the execution of sets of skills and commands (i.e. a bot) is not right. |
| 05:30.39 | Aurorus | So there's a small distinction somewhere in the middle |
| 05:30.39 | EWOlson | I agree. |
| 05:30.55 | EWOlson | That's why Blizzard had to change that. |
| 05:30.56 | Aurorus | That distinction is not based on what each one of you feel is right. That distinction solely rests with Trion. |
| 05:30.57 | Cairenn | Please re-read my above statement ... the one where I explain WHY we don't want to say that (that sometimes bots are addons or vice versa) |
| 05:31.10 | EWOlson | And why botting in RIFT using the addon system is currently impossible. |
| 05:31.30 | Cairenn | It has nothing to do with whether the addons were or weren't bots, it's WHY we don't want to say such |
| 05:31.32 | Lyme | For the same reason that we don't say that Republicans can be smart |
| 05:31.34 | EWOlson | Yes, because idiots who know nothing about either confuse them. I get that. |
| 05:31.39 | Cairenn | THAT is the point I am trying to make |
| 05:31.51 | EWOlson | Yeah, they say that regardless of how careful you are. |
| 05:32.13 | EWOlson | There are no addons that are bots in WoW or RIFT currently. |
| 05:32.17 | EWOlson | There were in WoW though. |
| 05:32.26 | Cairenn | So stop calling them bots, even in here, because you never know who might be in here and get all confused and use our (educated) words against us |
| 05:32.31 | Lyme | there are no addons in rift currently |
| 05:32.41 | EWOlson | On the PST. |
| 05:32.44 | Lyme | "edjumicated" |
| 05:32.44 | Cairenn | Lyme: yes there are, on test shards :p |
| 05:32.56 | Lyme | doesn't count |
| 05:33.19 | EWOlson | Well, since that API will go live in 1.5 I'd have to say it does. |
| 05:33.28 | Lyme | Until it goes live, it isn't |
| 05:33.35 | EWOlson | lol |
| 05:35.14 | EWOlson | So, Cairenn, you ever done any programming? |
| 05:35.15 | Lyme | maybe trion at the last moment goes.. nah, and pulls all the addon stuff. |
| 05:35.23 | Cairenn | EWOlson: some |
| 05:35.32 | EWOlson | What language(s)? |
| 05:35.46 | Cairenn | Not enough to really talk about though |
| 05:36.21 | Lyme | EWOlson: that information is on a need to know basis, and you don't need to know. |
| 05:36.30 | EWOlson | lol |
| 05:36.30 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:37.06 | EWOlson | I really hope more stuff gets added to the API soon. |
| 05:37.30 | Lyme | depends on your definition of soon |
| 05:37.31 | EWOlson | Other than boss mods I can't see much stuff to be done currently. |
| 05:38.21 | EWOlson | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 05:38.25 | EWOlson | lol |
| 05:39.27 | EWOlson | Can't do a Gatherer addon. |
| 05:39.36 | Torhal | EWOlson: You're behind the times. It's http://www.wowpedia.org |
| 05:39.59 | Torhal | http://www.wowpedia.org/Soon |
| 05:40.00 | EWOlson | Yeah, I figured you would say that. lol I forgot the name of the new site. |
| 05:40.00 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:40.17 | EWOlson | The other link still works though. |
| 05:40.26 | EWOlson | Though none of the regulars are over there anymore. |
| 05:40.41 | EWOlson | But since it is the Internet the information will exist 'til the end of time. |
| 05:41.33 | EWOlson | Or until Skynet becomes "aware". |
| 05:42.17 | EWOlson | Well, I'm gonna go. Just thought I'd see how things were over here. |
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| 05:42.45 | Lyme | I gotta go back into troll mode too, about to turn into a pumpkin. |
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| 20:19.29 | Marru_ | Hey guys, anyone know when we might get more API info? |
| 20:20.29 | Marru_ | Also, why does my nick end with a _? |
| 20:21.09 | ZorbaTHut | marru, a day or two, probably. Although it's very near addon feature freeze for 1.5. |
| 20:21.14 | fewyn | probably because somsone is already using the name Marru? |
| 20:23.33 | Marru_ | Cool thanks zorba, and by feature freeze do you mean unavailable in pts? |
| 20:24.03 | ZorbaTHut | marru, I mean "these patch notes are the last ones that will be included in 1.5, future patch notes will be part of 1.6" |
| 20:25.51 | Marru_ | Oh ok, well I hope the PTS gets fixed then so I can log on to test some of the new features |
| 20:27.40 | ZorbaTHut | I imagine they're working on it right now, although I won't be posting another changelog until tomorrow at earliest |
| 20:27.52 | ZorbaTHut | (I left my cellphone at home or it would have been today :P) |
| 20:29.59 | Marru_ | Lol ok, so will there be final 1.5 patch notes available tomorrow as well? |
| 20:33.54 | Marru_ | Is there a way with current API to check if the player is in combat? |
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| 20:38.03 | Marru_ | Stupid iPad app disconnected me for a minute there. |
| 20:40.28 | Marru_ | So anyone know of a combat check? |
| 20:45.06 | ZorbaTHut | there's an event that fires when you go in or out of combat |
| 20:45.21 | ZorbaTHut | also, tomorrow probably won't be *final*, but close |
| 20:46.09 | Marru_ | Oh ok thanks, is the event in the current pastebin/rift api bible? |
| 20:46.38 | ZorbaTHut | yep :) event.system.secure.enter/leave |
| 20:46.45 | Marru_ | Hmm cool |
| 20:46.52 | ZorbaTHut | technically it's "secure mode", not "combat", but right now they're equivalent. |
| 20:47.04 | ZorbaTHut | I should really add a function to check, as well as a combat flag. |
| 20:47.12 | Marru_ | What about a way to read combat log? |
| 20:47.22 | Marru_ | Or do we have to go through the file |
| 20:47.24 | ZorbaTHut | Not in yet. |
| 20:47.32 | Marru_ | Ok |
| 20:49.31 | Marru_ | Last question before I have to head out, is there or, i guess will there be, a way to measure a players threat on a target? Or will we have to do combat log style and find the multipliers from buffs and increased threat skills? |
| 20:52.10 | ZorbaTHut | there isn't right now. I'm personally hoping to expose that information but we haven't talked about it yet, and it definitely won't be in 1.5. |
| 20:54.16 | Marru_ | Oh ok, I think it would really help developers, and I'm sure you all know that if it doesn't get exposed people will do the calculations and end up getting threat levels anyways |
| 20:54.39 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, this is one of those cases where we have two options: we can let people make addons that do it well, or we can let people make addons that do it badly |
| 20:54.51 | ZorbaTHut | and personally, when it comes down to that, I'm always in favor of the former option |
| 20:55.25 | ZorbaTHut | but it'll take some implementation and we need to run it past people to make sure it won't expose extremely unwanted things, like behind-the-scenes threat hackery and the like. |
| 20:55.41 | Marru_ | I really appreciate that, gotta go though, thanks for answering my questions |
| 20:55.45 | ZorbaTHut | np, cya :) |
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| 22:30.44 | Aurorus | ZorbaTHut: Is it hard to express threat in units of damage? E.g. Currently, player A has 2,000 units of damage worth of threat. If someone does 2000 damage + 20%, they will pull aggro (melee) or +30% (ranged)? |
| 22:31.33 | Aurorus | If threat is expressed (or exposed) as negative damage and player attacks are expressed as positive damage, the break-even point (zero) is when aggro swaps occur |
| 22:33.18 | Aurorus | I.e., a tank hits for 100 damage, generating 500 threat-damage units. A player attacks for 200 damage, thereby setting the threat-damage units to 300. |
| 22:33.40 | ZorbaTHut | aurorus, doesn't generally work that way - usually each player is fighting against the tank independently, it's not everyone against the tank at once |
| 22:33.49 | ZorbaTHut | i.e. tank gets 500 threat, 19 players each get 400 threat, tank still has aggro |
| 22:34.33 | Aurorus | ZorbaTHut: Ahh, I see - so threat is individual based? |
| 22:34.43 | ZorbaTHut | well I actually have no idea how threat works in Rift |
| 22:34.48 | ZorbaTHut | but I *suspect* that's how it works :) |
| 22:35.19 | Aurorus | yeah, me too - in raids when I'm doing 200dps and the whole raid is doing 12,000dps and yet I'm still holding aggro, I think that it's individual based |
| 22:35.55 | Aurorus | Anyway you do it, I'm sure it'll be sane and helpful :) |
| 22:36.47 | ZorbaTHut | That's the hope :) Assuming it happens, of course, still no guarantees |
| 22:36.54 | Aurorus | of course :) |
| 22:37.49 | Cairenn | Anyone wanna hear a joke in honour of Talk Like a Pirate Day? |
| 22:39.56 | Aurorus | me Cairenn ! |
| 22:39.58 | Aurorus | Tell me! |
| 22:40.07 | Cairenn | Where do pirates go to eat? |
| 22:40.25 | Cairenn | (Don't know if you'll get the reference, since you're Australian) |
| 22:40.50 | Cairenn | Arrrrby's |
| 22:42.31 | Aurorus | hehe - I had to Google it :P |
| 22:43.06 | Cairenn | Yeah, doesn't work so well if you don't have that particular chain of fast food restaurants in your neck of the woods. |
| 22:43.18 | Aurorus | No, I don't think I've ever seen one around Australia |
| 22:43.43 | Cairenn | I don't know if they have locations anywhere outside North America |
| 22:45.48 | Cairenn | goes back to waking up |
| 22:46.24 | phoenik | grab some grog |
| 22:46.29 | Aurorus | Isn't it sleep time, Cairenn ? |
| 22:46.41 | Cairenn | Heh, that'll just put me back to sleep phoenik |
| 22:47.06 | Cairenn | Aurorus: no, I got my schedule all messed up again. I've only been up for about 45 minutes now. It's 6:45pm here |
| 22:47.17 | Aurorus | whoa |
| 22:47.24 | Aurorus | That's really turned things on its head |
| 22:47.39 | Cairenn | Yeah, I do that every so often |
| 22:47.49 | Cairenn | Then it's a bitch trying to get it switched back again. |
| 22:48.28 | phoenik | Question - say you have an ability that is on cooldown that isn't available to the current role. If you switch to a role with it, does it trigger Cooldown.Begin and Ability.Add? - ZorbaTHut may know best ;D |
| 22:48.48 | ZorbaTHut | that's actually a really good question. I have no idea. :D |
| 22:52.26 | phoenik | :D |
| 22:52.38 | phoenik | Something I'll have to test I suppose |
| 22:53.39 | phoenik | I like the addition of addon cpu usage in the tooltip :D |
| 22:57.19 | ZorbaTHut | it's still incomplete unfortunately, but we'll be improving it |
| 22:58.22 | phoenik | Are we going to see any more functionality added on alpha before the update to 1.5? |
| 22:59.03 | ZorbaTHut | Yup. Would've posted a changelist today but I left my cellphone at home and couldn't get into PTS easily. |
| 22:59.36 | phoenik | guess that means i should go update my documentation dumps xD |
| 23:00.54 | Aurorus | heh, windows 8 BSOD http://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/bsod1.jpg |
| 23:01.29 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:02.14 | lXl | :( |
| 23:02.59 | phoenik | Event.Combat O_O |
| 23:03.55 | phoenik | hm |
| 23:04.25 | phoenik | There a new version of devtools? |
| 23:05.28 | ZorbaTHut | *whistles innocently* |
| 23:05.40 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, I don't think there have been any major changes lately. there's maybe one or two minor tweaks |
| 23:05.43 | ZorbaTHut | the current version is 1.5.0 |
| 23:06.00 | phoenik | the dump stopped when it got to listing events for layout |
| 23:06.26 | phoenik | i may not have the updated one, ill double check |
| 23:06.30 | ZorbaTHut | well, 1.5.0 is on the examples site - if you don't have it, grab it |
| 23:06.38 | ZorbaTHut | (note: the addons manager will show you the version if you select the addon) |
| 23:07.10 | phoenik | yeah i dont think i had the latest |
| 23:07.31 | ZorbaTHut | oh I bet you had a version from back when the List metatable member existed |
| 23:08.05 | phoenik | sure did, i was sporting 0.9 like a boss |
| 23:11.19 | phoenik | oh hey, chat.notify too |
