| 00:00.51 | Sling | especially with the 1000's of tutorials out there these days |
| 00:01.01 | Sling | of which 75% do it wrong probably, but still |
| 00:02.56 | hp94 | Really? |
| 00:03.08 | hp94 | I've been looking into SQL due to Unity |
| 00:04.00 | Sling | well you can make it as complicated as you want really, but just for storing/retrieving data and doing something with it, its not that much of an undertaking |
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| 00:10.53 | hp94 | Hmm |
| 00:10.57 | hp94 | Well, great |
| 00:11.24 | hp94 | After working with lua and C# for so long, SQL syntax is something I find intimidating (to some point) |
| 00:12.22 | Sling | SQL has one of the easiest syntax there is :s |
| 00:12.58 | Sling | select columnfoo from persons where columnbar='xyz'; |
| 00:13.37 | Sling | for just basic utility, you use about 5% of its keywords but still |
| 00:19.25 | hp94 | select * from mytable; --? |
| 00:22.00 | Sling | no '--' needed, and yes that would select all columns/rows |
| 00:23.04 | TMc51 | SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0 |
| 00:32.26 | Aurorus | TMc51: 0 row(s) returned |
| 00:41.24 | hp94 | DELETE * FROM admins WHERE whatisthisparameter <> 'hp94'; |
| 00:45.34 | Aurorus | With great power comes great responsibility and someone to abuse it :P |
| 01:05.01 | hp94 | Aurorus: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/idk.jpg |
| 01:05.17 | Aurorus | what is that image supposed to mean? |
| 01:06.46 | hp94 | Nonchalance? |
| 01:07.29 | Sling | is this the next step from using emoticons? |
| 01:07.33 | Sling | just linking urls |
| 01:09.40 | TMc51 | no |
| 01:09.46 | TMc51 | its about 3 steps back |
| 01:10.48 | hp94 | TMc51: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/TOWAR.gif |
| 01:13.28 | Aurorus | Do you think the youth of today have lost their ability to express themselves with the English language, or is it the next stage of human evolution to express themselves with images? |
| 01:14.22 | hp94 | http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/pleasestandby.gif |
| 01:15.12 | Sling | Aurorus: it wont be trough IRC then |
| 01:15.25 | Sling | I think windows messenger already shows previews of image urls |
| 01:15.36 | Sling | havent used that in a while though |
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| 01:18.01 | hp94 | Aurorus: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/alrightythen.gif |
| 01:18.14 | Aurorus | hp94: Stop pinging me with stupid shit |
| 01:18.19 | Aurorus | I don't appreciate it. |
| 01:20.06 | Orix | lol |
| 01:21.00 | hp94 | I didn't know it was annoying, I was hoping it would be more humorous than anything- I'll stop though. |
| 01:21.31 | Aurorus | yes, thank you |
| 01:40.20 | hp94 | Ok, I have a big question if that's alright. |
| 01:41.10 | hp94 | I want my laptops built in computer to take a picture/snapshot on every log in (or log in attempt), and save it in a folder. How could I do that, or where should I look for information on how to do that? |
| 01:42.45 | Sling | "my laptops built in computer" heh |
| 01:43.26 | hp94 | Note to self: Stop editing sentences without rereading the new result |
| 01:44.10 | Sling | so you want the webcam to make a picture, or a screenshot, or what? |
| 01:44.43 | hp94 | Take a picture |
| 01:46.23 | Sling | http://www.luxand.com/blink/ |
| 01:46.44 | Sling | perhaps that can be configured to leave the authenticating to windows, but still catch failed loging |
| 01:46.46 | Sling | logins* |
| 01:47.07 | hp94 | Wow, thats awesome sling =D |
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| 02:52.39 | lXl | soldering iron + hand = :(:( |
| 02:52.55 | hp94 | Working on some computers? |
| 02:55.30 | lXl | FUCK |
| 02:55.45 | lXl | My fix didn't work. It's a pair of AV30s and the left channel apparently burnt out. |
| 02:55.49 | Sling | you have metal hands? |
| 02:55.53 | lXl | It was a capacitor but replacing it it's still deadl. |
| 02:56.03 | lXl | No but my hands play meta. |
| 02:56.04 | lXl | metal. |
| 03:00.55 | lXl | Ok yeah, wow, avoid M Audio like the plague. |
| 03:02.43 | ZorbaTHut | yay back from burning man. my feet hurt. |
| 03:02.54 | lXl | Did you burn them? |
| 03:03.13 | ZorbaTHut | no, just walked on them a lot |
| 03:03.28 | ZorbaTHut | like, walked on them until they hurt. then bandaged them and walked on them until they hurt again. then walked on them some more. |
| 03:04.33 | hp94 | Duct Tape: Is there anything it can't do? |
| 03:04.57 | lXl | Fix my speaker |
| 03:05.23 | hp94 | Yes it can. |
| 03:05.27 | lXl | It can't |
| 03:05.32 | hp94 | The problem is not with the duct tape, but with the application. |
| 03:06.04 | lXl | M Audio is the problem, it's so bad there is no solution |
| 03:09.14 | lXl | Ugh, can't find anything comparable to av30s without a subwoofer. |
| 03:09.41 | Sling | ZorbaTHut: for fun, or for some cause? :) |
| 03:09.52 | lXl | Guess I'm bumping up to studio grade. |
| 03:12.34 | ZorbaTHut | sling, for fun :) |
| 03:12.54 | Sling | you should come to the vierdaagse then here in Nijmegen NL :) |
| 03:13.03 | Sling | walk 30/40/50 km with a lot of ppl |
| 03:13.33 | Sling | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Four_Days_Marches_Nijmegen |
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| 03:15.06 | Sling | they walk right past my house every year :) fun to sit and watch |
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| 03:17.42 | lXl | Do you ever pull the invisible rope on them? |
| 03:19.29 | Sling | a bit too crowded for that |
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| 03:36.54 | ZorbaTHut | sling, way too much walking for me :V |
| 03:37.38 | ZorbaTHut | in this case, the walking was because (1) I was trying to show off a museum I'm making, and (2) I wanted to see pretty things |
| 03:37.45 | ZorbaTHut | largely encompassing the first week and the second week respectively |
| 03:38.12 | Sling | hmm "Djinni'sWish_Rare_Cleric (Level 44)" interesting item to make it to live :> |
| 03:38.16 | Sling | ZorbaTHut: sounds nice |
| 03:38.49 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.digitalgamemuseum.org/ and http://blog.burningman.com/ respectively |
| 03:39.12 | Sling | reminds me of http://www.computerspielemuseum.de/ |
| 03:39.16 | Sling | went there last year |
| 03:39.50 | ZorbaTHut | I've heard of that one, it's probably the closest thing to what we're trying to do. the downside is that it's in .de, not in the middle of the SF bay area |
| 03:39.57 | Sling | heh |
| 03:40.09 | Sling | yea it was looking really new and amateur, but in a good way :) |
| 03:40.22 | Sling | guess thats what you get if you put such a 'modern' thing in a museum |
| 03:40.23 | ZorbaTHut | we definitely need to improve our site a lot |
| 03:40.36 | ZorbaTHut | slow goin'. lot of work to be done. |
| 03:40.50 | hp94 | Zorba, you made a blog post praising WoW? |
| 03:41.07 | ZorbaTHut | hp94, it was a really noteworthy game. |
| 03:41.39 | Sling | "For the first time since its release, World of Warcraft is under heavy fire from other games - Guild Wars 2, Farmville, Rift, Star Wars: The Old Republic, and many, many more - " |
| 03:41.39 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, one, we're a museum, we have to do that sort of thing. two, I'm a gamer, I want good games to exist. |
| 03:41.44 | Sling | you put rift next to farmville :( |
| 03:42.03 | ZorbaTHut | I really want to get into the firefall beta |
| 03:42.24 | Sling | im sure you have the connections to do so :) |
| 03:43.09 | ZorbaTHut | actually it's really hard for MMO developers to get into MMO betas |
| 03:43.25 | ZorbaTHut | all the beta signup forms say things like "you don't work in the game industry, and you definitely don't work on an MMO" |
| 03:43.36 | ZorbaTHut | you have to know someone personally to get around that and even then it's iffy. |
| 03:43.54 | Sling | hmyeah true, you might not fit the criteria for a good black box tester |
| 03:44.15 | ZorbaTHut | it's not even that, they just don't want us stealing their ideas (not, admittedly, that Rift and Firefall's game design have much in common) |
| 03:44.42 | ZorbaTHut | (but Defiance and Firefall are a lot more kin) |
| 03:44.57 | Sling | i just want the D3 beta |
| 03:45.18 | Sling | however i fear that itll eat into my rift tim |
| 03:45.21 | Sling | time* |
| 03:45.32 | Sling | can't have that :) |
| 03:45.33 | ZorbaTHut | I'll probably play d3 co-op with the GF |
| 03:45.44 | ZorbaTHut | I doubt it'll get much playtime after we've beaten it, though |
| 03:46.09 | ZorbaTHut | not a style of game that ever really grabbed me, and doubly so with their auctionhouse system |
| 03:46.54 | Sling | yea im curious to see how that'll work out |
| 03:47.06 | Sling | any exploits with direct repercussions on irl money.. dunno |
| 03:47.30 | Sling | im sure they have plenty of legal advice for that atm :) |
| 03:47.33 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's a big can of worms. I almost think they'd be better off making it free-to-play now |
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| 03:48.50 | lXl1 | Ok wow massive BSOD from unplugging a line 6 device |
| 03:49.00 | hp94 | Sling: I'll letcha know ;) |
| 03:49.28 | Sling | hp94: oh the laptop thingy |
| 03:49.38 | Sling | that had already been swapped out of my memory |
| 03:49.46 | ZorbaTHut | |x|, niche hardware drivers always worry me. they're never, *ever* well-coded |
| 03:50.44 | lXl1 | The two audio hardware companies I despise but it's hard to avoid them, Line 6 and MAudio |
| 03:51.05 | lXl1 | They produce some of the best results for the price but their quality suffers heavily. |
| 03:51.10 | Sling | never used anything other then onboard audio |
| 03:51.32 | lXl1 | My line 6 is for guitar input. Onboard is very noisy for direct signal. |
| 03:51.56 | lXl1 | It also unlocks an alright guitar modeling app Pod Farm |
| 03:52.02 | Sling | heh my cello doesnt have a cable :p so yeah |
| 03:52.35 | lXl1 | My guitar sucks without an amp of some sort. |
| 03:52.52 | lXl1 | Oh well, I'm planning on later getting a real amp, avoiding Line 6 completely :D |
| 03:53.55 | lXl1 | What was /alias? |
| 03:54.18 | ZorbaTHut | I'm actually curious about that myself, looking forward to the thread when I get in to work :P |
| 03:55.01 | lXl1 | People complain addons will automate gameplay, while they mash furiously away at their 20 line one button macro. |
| 03:55.24 | lXl1 | Great.. more pvp specific stats. |
| 03:56.23 | hp94 | Whether or not AddOns actually could end up automating gameplay is up to players, more so than Zorba or RIFTs game devs or RIFTs marketing team |
| 03:56.53 | hp94 | Nothing 'stops' at macros when you're talking about "efficient dps" |
| 03:57.57 | hp94 | PvE people can get pretty crazy, I know one irl - It's why I stick to PvP |
| 04:06.09 | lXl1 | MMOwned is against anti cheat software.. how surprising |
| 04:06.11 | lXl1 | http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-general-discussions/general-discussion/239619-rift-anti-cheat.html |
| 04:07.10 | lXl1 | Nobody seems to mind what evils Facebook does for their own gain, but when Trion tries to make the world better for everybody.. in Telara.. it's the apocalypse |
| 04:08.05 | hp94 | I'm actually waiting for hackers to take down Facebook on November 5th like they promised |
| 04:08.12 | lXl1 | Oh nice. |
| 04:08.21 | hp94 | even if it only goes down for 60 seconds it will be a first, and cost millions (tens of millions?) |
| 04:08.26 | lXl1 | Does that mean I can't go to the event I RSVP'd on FB |
| 04:08.34 | lXl1 | It won't cost them millions lol. |
| 04:09.01 | lXl1 | FB doesn't make over $1b a day |
| 04:09.40 | hp94 | Facebook has never had downtime. |
| 04:09.44 | hp94 | There goes their reputation |
| 04:09.55 | lXl1 | Nobody is going to stop using FB over downtime. |
| 04:10.09 | hp94 | Not to mention how many poeple will migrate to google plus because facebook can't keep hackers out (*FOX news voice*) |
| 04:10.26 | lXl1 | They wont |
| 04:11.30 | hp94 | They will. Facebook is an ideal, one that can be broken. It's always been too good to be true and people will notice. |
| 04:17.02 | lXl1 | Servers go down, it happens. |
| 04:19.09 | lXl | Every time I wonder if my fish sauce has gone bad, I remember it comes that way. |
| 04:23.04 | Sling | yey, http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-general-discussions/classes-telara/mage-discussion/252039-gear-upgrade-calculator.html |
| 04:23.10 | Sling | let the shitstorm break loose |
| 04:43.20 | lXl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvUyu3zOmE&NR=1&feature=fvwp EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 04:57.25 | hp94 | lXl: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/fail.gif |
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| 05:46.34 | hp94 | Anyone want to talk on skype? |
| 05:52.28 | hp94 | brb |
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| 19:04.09 | hp94 | Darn, no Firefall beta today. |
| 19:05.25 | hp94 | brb |
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| 21:10.39 | Sunspots | How should I think when I design frames that are supposed to be of the same kind but with different values/input? Preferrably in a way that would allow for infinite frames. |
| 21:10.54 | Sunspots | Such as unit frames or buff bars |
| 21:12.29 | Sunspots | I just seem to try duplicating code for different frames instead of being able to make something that can handle multiple bars/frames |
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| 22:09.38 | ZorbaTHut | sunspots, you can always make a function that creates and returns new frames |
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| 22:26.21 | Sunspots | Yeah, something like that... I just haven't figured aout how it works yet... I think I'll probably start by making some simple funcitonal stuff and then see how I could structure it up anr rewrite most of it - that's usually how I do things whan I don't know how |
| 22:32.31 | ZorbaTHut | same, to be honest. Make one to throw away - it's almost impossible to figure out the right design without writing half of it. |
| 22:34.04 | Sunspots | It |
| 22:34.16 | Sunspots | It's also a nice learning experience |
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