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| 04:19.24 | adracamas | O.o o.O |
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| 11:06.21 | blueberry1 | hello! |
| 11:06.46 | blueberry1 | hmm...wonder if anyone here is awake... |
| 11:17.09 | ZorbaBeta | probably a good idea to just ask your question. although, assuming it's the same question that you asked in #wowuidev, no, there's no way to accomplish that yet |
| 11:18.31 | blueberry1 | lol ok thanks zorba |
| 11:18.39 | ZorbaBeta | np :) |
| 11:19.36 | blueberry1 | I just don't understand why that noise when someone sends me a message doesn't always happen... or if it does it is so low |
| 11:20.01 | blueberry1 | if i turn my master volume up everything would get way loud |
| 11:20.17 | ZorbaBeta | y'know, thinking back on it, I'm not sure I've heard that sound in a while either |
| 11:20.35 | blueberry1 | yeah... can't remember the last time i heard it |
| 11:20.47 | ZorbaBeta | might be bugged. I'll look into it. Probably best to just, y'know, fix the problem for everyone |
| 11:20.51 | blueberry1 | i like to do my homework with rift running in the background so people can talk to me |
| 11:20.59 | blueberry1 | lol yah |
| 11:22.19 | ZorbaBeta | thinking it over, it's sort of tough to figure out when it should occur. you wouldn't want annoying dings every single time someone sends a message |
| 11:22.26 | ZorbaBeta | maybe there's some clever logic in there that's misbehaving |
| 11:23.14 | blueberry1 | well, for once, if you are alt-tabbed, the sound should occur |
| 11:23.27 | blueberry1 | if you aren't alt tabbed, you'll see the message. |
| 11:23.49 | blueberry1 | so maybe it can be tied into the event that flashes your rift icon |
| 11:23.59 | blueberry1 | when you get in combat and are alt-tabbed |
| 11:24.21 | ZorbaBeta | that's a good idea |
| 11:29.44 | nohh | mornin' blueberry, zorba |
| 11:29.49 | ZorbaBeta | ahoy |
| 11:29.49 | nohh | you guys are up early |
| 11:29.53 | blueberry1 | i haven't slept yet |
| 11:29.58 | nohh | ditto |
| 11:29.59 | blueberry1 | and hi nohh!!!! |
| 11:29.59 | ZorbaBeta | I have a weird schedule |
| 11:30.03 | nohh | !! |
| 11:30.07 | ZorbaBeta | got up around 5pm :P |
| 11:30.14 | blueberry1 | i spent like an hour installing visual studio, took longer than expected |
| 11:30.19 | nohh | I woke up at 9pm last night |
| 11:30.29 | nohh | I live on like a 25 hour cycle :| |
| 11:30.32 | blueberry1 | i woke up at 2 pm today haha, close to your schedule zorba :P |
| 11:30.49 | ZorbaBeta | nohh, same here |
| 11:31.10 | nohh | it's nice having the freedom to do it at least |
| 11:31.11 | ZorbaBeta | it's got its pros and cons |
| 11:31.17 | nohh | much better rested than when I had a regular job |
| 11:31.23 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, definitely. of course, it's an incredible problem if you don't have that freedom |
| 11:32.26 | blueberry1 | i really like that pirate speak addon in wow, if i want one in rift, and just rewrite the addon so that it'll work in rift, is that a bad thing? |
| 11:32.46 | blueberry1 | i mean is there copy right issues i need to look into? |
| 11:32.56 | nohh | depends on how they licensed their addon code |
| 11:34.06 | nohh | and if it's restrictive you could still try to get in touch with the developer and ask their permission to reuse the code, i dunno why they'd have a problem with it |
| 11:34.43 | blueberry1 | okay. The guy just said email him and let him know if I reuse his codes |
| 11:36.08 | blueberry1 | I just transferred my char over to an RP server because my old one is completely dead. I think this would definitely make the rp people laugh. |
| 11:37.14 | blueberry1 | i also want to write a swedish chef one like someone suggested. Although i have trouble underrstanding the speech when i watch that show..so it maybe hard to write phrases for it |
| 11:37.28 | nohh | could do a drunk-speak mod too |
| 11:37.41 | blueberry1 | i dont drink so i definitely can not relate haha |
| 11:37.41 | nohh | have a whole cadre of chat mods |
| 11:37.51 | blueberry1 | i only want to write something that is meaningful to me :P |
| 11:38.22 | nohh | well WoW would slur your chat if you got drunk by default |
| 11:38.34 | nohh | ...hic! |
| 11:38.51 | blueberry1 | yep. I remember that |
| 11:39.47 | nohh | and how is it you can relate to talking like a pirate huh :p |
| 11:40.46 | blueberry1 | hmm, i never thought about that. |
| 11:40.55 | blueberry1 | LOL |
| 11:41.37 | blueberry1 | i guess i really like pirates of the carribean. |
| 11:43.19 | blueberry1 | and i go to the renaissance faire, full of pirates usually. albeit, fake ones. |
| 11:44.01 | nohh | still you're not a pirate :( |
| 11:44.31 | blueberry1 | yah, and i'm not a rogue either but i play one. |
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| 11:44.33 | nohh | but mod your heart out |
| 11:47.08 | blueberry1 | nohh what class do you play in rift? |
| 11:49.00 | nohh | I played em all |
| 11:49.21 | nohh | had a 50 war rog and mage before i retired |
| 11:49.34 | nohh | cleric only got to mid 20s I think |
| 11:50.06 | blueberry1 | oh i see, so you don't play it anymore? |
| 11:50.21 | nohh | no i don't play anything now anymore :( |
| 11:51.04 | nohh | I just like meeting mmo enthusiasts who are also programmers |
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| 12:14.45 | blueberry1 | sorry if this is a dumb questions, but when it says something like Frame: Inherits from Layout |
| 12:14.45 | blueberry1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.03 | blueberry1 | question* |
| 12:16.19 | ZorbaBeta | it effectively means that Frame does everything Layout does, and more |
| 12:16.31 | ZorbaBeta | look up "inheritance" online for a primer into basic object-oriented techniques :) |
| 12:17.13 | blueberry1 | ahh ok, thanks. This is news to me. |
| 12:18.18 | ZorbaBeta | it's a handy tool to know about. I think it's often overused, but UI widgets are one of the things it's really ideal for |
| 12:18.46 | nohh | yeah so a Frame is a Layout, and can be used anywhere it says it needs a Layout and any functions that you can call on a Layout you can also call on a Frame |
| 12:19.25 | ZorbaBeta | exactly |
| 12:19.53 | ZorbaBeta | and a Texture is both a Frame *and* a Layout, and can be used as such, if you feel the need.k |
| 12:19.53 | blueberry1 | nifty. Maybe I will figure out when I need to use such a thing in the future. |
| 12:21.36 | nohh | inheritance is a pretty fundamental concept in object oriented programming, definitely something you should learn |
| 12:22.19 | blueberry1 | it's on my list now =P |
| 12:22.25 | nohh | good :p |
| 12:33.39 | blueberry1 | okay i'm going to sleep. Good night ^_^ |
| 12:36.39 | nohh | gnite |
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| 14:20.33 | Sling | zam, y u so slow in updating items |
| 14:20.48 | Sling | HK gear is in Items.XML already for a few days :) |
| 14:21.56 | adracamas | Is it parseing XML files? |
| 14:22.19 | Sling | yup, just like any rift database site |
| 14:22.36 | adracamas | Oh, I was talking about in-game XD |
| 14:23.10 | adracamas | Like using XML to build the groundwork for the frames and such. |
| 14:23.22 | Sling | ah, no thats all lua for addons afaik |
| 14:23.45 | adracamas | That's what I thought, but wanted to ask none the less. :) Thanks |
| 14:24.03 | ZorbaBeta | yeah I really hate XML for design, it probably won't be showing up unless someone implements it as a library |
| 14:25.00 | Sling | yea you´d really need a reason for using specifically XML, not just for the sake of it |
| 14:25.05 | Sling | as a lot of devvers do :) |
| 14:25.30 | adracamas | An XML parser could be possible... but I would hope they would use it as an external conversion instead of an ingame loader.. lots of wasted processes |
| 14:26.31 | Sling | also http://riftupgrades.com - rogue tank available now and saves are serverside instead of clientside trough cookies |
| 14:27.26 | adracamas | Honestly though.. I am not a real good programmer lol. I have enough skills to find errors in code and look up why it's wrong. But creating one from scratch it not easy. |
| 14:28.34 | Sling | you´ll only become good by doing it a lot and learning from mistakes |
| 14:29.50 | adracamas | That's a nice page you have going there. |
| 14:31.12 | Sling | just need to fix it for warriortank/warriordps/clerictank/clericdps/magedps and it´s done :P |
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| 14:33.34 | adracamas | I've been contemplating an addon to help curse/rift.zam with their databases. I know you can upload your log to them but a lot of people don't get it.. not to mention you need to use a couple of / commands to place a loc in the file. want to make something that monitors all that automatically. Maybe even send it for you. Probably need a small external program to monitor a specified folder |
| 14:33.34 | adracamas | for the output file and send it off when you exit the game. |
| 14:35.49 | Sunspots | The simplest thing would be to simply emulate the /-command when an item is picked up and it will fall right into the log |
| 14:37.40 | Sunspots | If the the addon's print-function is saved in the regular log, all we need is an event for item-pickup, plus maybe a location inspector |
| 14:38.12 | Sunspots | I dunno if we can query the API for the character's location |
| 14:39.02 | adracamas | Yeah.. I believe after you activate logfging you just need to type /loc to add the current location to the log right after the pickup |
| 14:39.36 | Sunspots | Yeah, I don't think we'll be able to execute macros automatically though. |
| 14:39.53 | adracamas | they parse it from that info in the log but if someone picks up something and forgets to /loc i think it screws up the process. |
| 14:40.20 | adracamas | i see what you mean.. hm. |
| 14:41.21 | Sunspots | I bet we'll be able to make a simple print function instead that prints the same data |
| 14:41.52 | adracamas | I'll have to see.. not sure what logs gather what info exactly. |
| 14:45.28 | adracamas | Hey Sling, That's a really nifty site. But just to let you know, on a 4:3 monitor (1280x1024px) the right side gets a little cropped off the edge (even though there IS a H scroll bar). I know you're more worried about functionality that asthetics, but maybe placing the upgrades under the selection window in the page? |
| 14:46.12 | Sling | adracamas: yeah i could probably chop of a bit off the inputboxes though and also the suggestion table |
| 14:46.30 | Sling | 1280x1024px shouldn´t show scrollbars imo, but haven´t gotten around to fixing that |
| 14:46.31 | adracamas | But yeah.. it's a beautiful thing you created there. |
| 14:46.35 | Sling | thnx |
| 14:47.25 | adracamas | I only said that because me being old school am used to a 4:3 monitor.. thought that you might have a wide screen ratio and not notice it. |
| 14:47.42 | Sling | yup using 26 inches which is nice, but bad for webdev :p |
| 14:47.44 | Sunspots | what site? |
| 14:47.51 | Sling | http://riftupgrades.com |
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| 20:39.34 | Sling | they should probably remove http://assets.riftgame.com/patcher/en/1.3Update_EN_EU.jpg from the slideshow in the launcher :p |
| 20:40.19 | nicoli_s | its coming...in the past! |
| 20:51.17 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 21:35.09 | Lyme | interesting, there is no mage - healer on that site |
| 21:35.42 | Lyme | Nor rogue support |
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| 21:57.20 | Sling | Lyme: rogue support would only have different greater sigils |
| 21:57.24 | Sling | essences* |
| 21:57.35 | Sling | and mage healer/dps/support would all have the same gear too |
| 21:57.47 | Sling | (mage is not done yet anyway) |
| 21:58.09 | lXl | Lol, trion fixed sigils |
| 21:58.23 | Sling | they also changed forum url´s, my bookmarks stopped working |
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