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| 00:19.10 | Sling | heheh http://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 00:20.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:20.51 | Cairenn | I love xkcd |
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| 05:09.18 | lXl | Is this really this complicated: I have 7 installed on C. I want to delete everything from D. I can't format D because boot information is on it. ??? |
| 05:09.51 | lXl | Every Google result is "reinstall" or "you can't do that", the hell? There's not a single way to reproduce the boot information on another drive.. |
| 05:12.37 | mckenziemc | welcome to microsoft |
| 05:12.49 | lXl | I suppose so. |
| 05:13.32 | Nobgul | No there is not. |
| 05:13.51 | Nobgul | Well There is but it sucks you can recreate the boot info in a usb stick but then you would need to use it to boot |
| 05:14.09 | lXl | I can't recreate the boot information on the correct hard drive. |
| 05:14.20 | Nobgul | You could then install grub2 then copy the other info over to that using a custom path. and again it sucks and is tricky |
| 05:14.27 | lXl | All because windows automatically placed all of the boot info for C on the already existing D system.. |
| 05:14.50 | Nobgul | Sounds about right. |
| 05:15.19 | lXl | I buy a new hard drive and install the same OS on it, obviously I will always want the old install.. this is fucked up. |
| 05:16.02 | lXl | In Disk Management it lists C as boot, page, crash, primary |
| 05:16.13 | lXl | That isn't listed on D.. this is a clusterfuck. |
| 05:16.25 | kergoth | in the old days, sys a: or so would copy the boot files to the a: drive, but sadly i doubt it's that easy anymore :) |
| 05:17.06 | Nobgul | there is a way to copy the boot stuff to usb as i stated check google for how to make bootable usb |
| 05:17.46 | mckenziemc | i always disconnect extra drives when i install windows OSes |
| 05:18.12 | lXl | Well I wasn't aware windows had gotten this retarded with installs. |
| 05:18.42 | lXl | This also caused me a lot of hell getting the first install done in the first place. |
| 05:19.08 | mckenziemc | "gotten" this retarded? O.o |
| 05:19.13 | Nobgul | lol |
| 05:19.27 | lXl | It use to not even be this convoluted. You install windows, it doesn't overthrow the whole boot process. |
| 05:22.49 | lXl | Like, what happens if that 2nd HD completely dies, it renders booth drives unbootable? |
| 05:23.08 | nohh | unplug it and see! |
| 05:25.33 | lXl | Hmm, boot to the windows install and run a repair maybe? |
| 05:25.41 | lXl | Unplug the 2nd hard drive and let it force the rebuild? |
| 05:27.12 | nohh | or d/l a bootable linux cd and format it in linux |
| 05:27.24 | lXl | Format it to* linux. :D |
| 05:27.25 | nohh | once you verify it can boot without the drive attached with no problems |
| 05:29.06 | nohh | dunno why you'd want to dual boot linux/windows when you can just run one inside virtualbox or something |
| 05:29.26 | lXl | Delete windows, run linux, enjoy. |
| 05:29.47 | nohh | he says in the video game centric irc channel |
| 05:30.18 | lXl | Actually I want to build a mini itx system to handle odd job computer use, let my power hungry box cool down from time to time. |
| 05:31.03 | nohh | you're letting a bond villain use your computer? bad idea. |
| 05:31.19 | lXl | ? |
| 05:31.39 | nohh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_henchmen_in_Goldfinger#Oddjob |
| 05:31.45 | lXl | Oh. |
| 05:33.02 | nohh | only the second coolest bond villain ever... after Dr No, of course |
| 05:34.10 | lXl | I want to ultimately put a computer in my car so I can Rift while I drive. |
| 05:35.23 | Nobgul | Rift while you drive. |
| 05:35.35 | nohh | sounds like a grand idea |
| 05:35.38 | Nobgul | =X |
| 05:35.51 | lXl | Why not? |
| 05:36.12 | lXl | Homer Simpson can talk on a cell phone while cooking and watching TV and print documents.. while driving. |
| 05:39.24 | nohh | yo dawg we put rift in your fit so you can rift while you drift? |
| 05:39.35 | lXl | ^ This guy gets it. |
| 05:40.05 | Nobgul | Well with all the people out there that can' |
| 05:40.13 | Nobgul | t handle driving alone, a pc in the car = bad |
| 05:40.28 | lXl | It's okay, I power shift. |
| 06:33.32 | Lyme | IXI you can recreate boot information pretty easy actually |
| 06:36.02 | lXl | That's what I figured. |
| 06:36.44 | Lyme | I'm looking for a webpage that shows how to do it |
| 06:36.55 | lXl | I was doing that :( |
| 06:37.26 | Lyme | your looking for both "fdisk /mbr" and diskpart |
| 06:39.26 | mckenziemc | it's not just an mbr though |
| 06:39.40 | mckenziemc | windows 7 likes to have a whole separate boot/recovery partition |
| 06:39.54 | Lyme | really? mine doesn't have one |
| 06:40.41 | mckenziemc | when you make a new installation, it's not required, but idk about modifying an existing installation |
| 06:41.02 | Lyme | besides that, you can resize existing partitions in windows 7 |
| 06:41.12 | mckenziemc | i think windows reluctantly puts the files on the main partition if you tell it not to make a new one during installation |
| 06:41.24 | mckenziemc | yes, but how are you going to get the right files to the right place |
| 06:42.18 | mckenziemc | granted, i don't understand the new system, and accordingly, if that's even necessary or not |
| 06:42.38 | Lyme | Plus, windows 7 may have already created what he needs |
| 06:42.46 | lXl | Foudn more what I need.. "BCD" |
| 06:43.20 | Lyme | linkage? |
| 06:43.29 | lXl | http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/1026425.htm |
| 06:43.31 | lXl | Example |
| 06:44.22 | lXl | Still, probably easiet to just use the thumb drive and let it figure out the mess it made. |
| 06:44.32 | lXl | Worst case, I'll end up reinstalling windows 7 again. |
| 06:44.56 | Lyme | ixi, load up the computer management console (under admin tools) |
| 06:45.27 | lXl | Yeah |
| 06:45.35 | Lyme | click on the disk management tab |
| 06:45.44 | lXl | Been there. |
| 06:45.51 | Lyme | on disk 0, what partitions do you see? |
| 06:46.30 | lXl | 10.05 unallocated, 295 NTFS (system ,active, primary), temp backup 157gb (split this to backup some stuff) |
| 06:46.51 | Lyme | your going to need 100meg at the front of the disk |
| 06:47.06 | lXl | There's 10.05g unallocated |
| 06:47.13 | Lyme | at the front? |
| 06:47.16 | lXl | Some of that came from the front |
| 06:47.25 | Lyme | has to be at the front |
| 06:47.44 | lXl | It should be. |
| 06:48.15 | Lyme | if it shows a block on the left of at least 100meg, you are good |
| 06:48.21 | lXl | It is. |
| 06:49.16 | lXl | It was 10gb of OEM shit. |
| 06:49.45 | Lyme | rumour has it, that if you go into diskpart and change the active disk to 0, then exit and create a mbr with fdisk, you should be able to stick in the win7 cd and use the repair option to create the boot partition. |
| 06:50.04 | lXl | Link? |
| 06:50.17 | Lyme | don't have one. |
| 06:51.01 | Lyme | a;though the last post in your link looks pretty good, just make sure you created the mbr first |
| 06:51.09 | Lyme | recreating a mbr doesn |
| 06:51.13 | Lyme | 't hurt anything btw |
| 06:52.03 | lXl | Disk 0 is the old system drive |
| 06:52.18 | Lyme | ahh, that is a problem |
| 06:52.39 | Lyme | hrm.. maybe.. |
| 06:54.47 | Lyme | you'll still need to create a mbr on disk 1 after it has become disk 0, and before you yank the old drive. |
| 06:56.02 | Lyme | personally, I'd temporarally yank the old drive and run the windows 7 repair on the install dvd. |
| 06:56.59 | lXl | What I'm cionsidering just doing |
| 06:57.36 | Lyme | It is a common scenerio |
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| 08:42.05 | blueberry1 | nohh are you awake? =) |
| 09:00.02 | nohh | I am |
| 09:01.04 | blueberry1 | ohh, nevermind i just found out the answer to what i was looking for. |
| 09:01.21 | nohh | oh ok :p |
| 09:01.51 | blueberry1 | well, but i have a new question. |
| 09:01.54 | blueberry1 | lol |
| 09:02.06 | nohh | fire away |
| 09:02.15 | blueberry1 | i have a list of software i can get for free through my school, .NET stuff which should i get do you know? |
| 09:02.53 | blueberry1 | there's compact framework, framework 1.1 sdk, micro framework sdk |
| 09:02.54 | nohh | microsoft visual studio, though you can get a free version of that anyway |
| 09:03.13 | blueberry1 | oh, i am downloading the vs 2010 ultimate so it includes everything? |
| 09:03.35 | nohh | indeed |
| 09:03.41 | blueberry1 | excellent! |
| 09:03.42 | nohh | way more than you need |
| 09:03.51 | blueberry1 | do i need xna game studio 4? it just sounds so cool |
| 09:04.29 | nohh | that's just a modified version of Visual Studio I think |
| 09:04.49 | blueberry1 | ahh I see. thank you! |
| 09:15.46 | blueberry1 | have a good night! |
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| 11:43.20 | lXl | Too much Reddit.. I started to count how many hours I get from going to sleep now and waking up for work. I started counting at January. |
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| 16:20.19 | industrial | Is there an ETA for rift addons on live? |
| 16:20.40 | Cairenn | No |
| 16:27.33 | industrial | kay. |
| 16:27.55 | industrial | cus im not gunna spen time on it yet then :\ |
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