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| 00:28.37 | Kreiri | Hi. Can I get an invite to <JIT Jockeys>? |
| 00:30.01 | Morv | jo Kreiri! Youre the one with the pretty buffbars addon? |
| 00:30.06 | Cairenn | Kreiri: still looking for an invite, or did someone else already take care of you? |
| 00:30.25 | Kreiri | Morv: yes , Cairenn: yes |
| 00:30.50 | Kreiri | as in, yes, still looking |
| 00:31.12 | Cairenn | okay, will log in shortly |
| 00:31.19 | Kreiri | thanks |
| 00:31.19 | Morv | nice work with that |
| 00:31.21 | Cairenn | PvE or PvP shard? |
| 00:31.25 | Kreiri | PvE |
| 00:31.28 | Cairenn | k |
| 00:31.36 | Kreiri | Morv: thanks :) |
| 00:32.47 | Morv | you should have a look at my fork of Libra, it comes with a Library for moving things. You may attach this windows to your buff bars as well to have them easy movable |
| 00:33.38 | Kreiri | I'll make them movable when Zorba releases API for that. |
| 00:33.53 | Morv | (as i remember your todolist says that youre looking for graphical options panel and stuff looking at libra is probably a good move anyway :) ) |
| 00:34.21 | Morv | yeah, im looking forward for this feature too ;) |
| 00:34.52 | Kreiri | I do not want to re-make it when the official widgets become available :) |
| 00:45.55 | Cairenn | (sorry for the delay Kreiri, I didn't get the last patch, so I'm updating atm) |
| 00:47.24 | Kreiri | np |
| 00:51.03 | Kreiri | Cairenn: how to edit addon description without uploading new version? Just leave "Update File" field empty? |
| 00:51.37 | Cairenn | offs. I was logging into live instead of test |
| 00:51.47 | Cairenn | trying this again, rofl |
| 00:52.01 | Cairenn | Kreiri: yeah, you can 'edit addon' and just change the description then hit save |
| 00:52.21 | Cairenn | ditto screenshots |
| 00:53.37 | Cairenn | the other (nice) thing is that it won't trigger the 'updated' notice, so you won't get all your users downloading it thinking that it's a new version and then going 'wtf, nothing changed' |
| 00:54.21 | Cairenn | logging in now - in-game name? |
| 00:54.34 | Kreiri | Oh, speaking about screenshots. The one I uploaded was 661KB on my HDD, and became 1.2 MB on RiftUI |
| 00:54.37 | Kreiri | Erenay |
| 00:55.10 | Morv | you guys are on US Alpha Shards, right? |
| 00:55.40 | Cairenn | correct |
| 00:56.02 | Cairenn | but they aren't NA vs EU, to my knowledge |
| 00:56.53 | Morv | i was just wondering why the guild search doesnt find the Jit Jockeys ;) |
| 00:57.08 | Kreiri | because no one was online? |
| 00:57.25 | Kreiri | also, are you searching on def or guard side? |
| 00:57.48 | Morv | defiant of course! ;) |
| 00:58.03 | Kreiri | try seraching again :) |
| 01:00.44 | Morv | Im not on my gaming maschine right now, sorry ;) |
| 01:01.37 | Cairenn | Your best bet is to always pop in here first and find out if anyone can log in and hook you up. |
| 02:03.23 | seebs | Is the intent that the PTS servers will be sort of stable/continuous now? If so I should probably get a PTS account and keep it up to date. |
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| 02:21.23 | hp94 | Hello everyone. |
| 02:21.39 | mckenziemc | hides |
| 02:23.47 | Cairenn | hi hp94 |
| 02:24.20 | hp94 | goads mckenziemc out of his hiding place with Reeses Pieces... |
| 02:24.32 | hp94 | :Creepy(true); |
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| 03:33.37 | hp94 | Oh boy, it took me so long to dencrypt the last AddOn, I'm not looking forward to the other two =( |
| 03:35.16 | Cairenn | happy happy joy joy? |
| 03:36.56 | hp94 | pulls his hair out. |
| 03:37.15 | TMc51 | happy happy joy joy joy |
| 03:37.35 | TMc51 | you steoopeed eedeeot /smack |
| 03:37.52 | TMc51 | Greatest. TV. Show. Evar. |
| 03:39.19 | nohh | what rolls down stairs alone or in pairs, and over your neighbor's dog. |
| 03:39.52 | hp94 | I actually was using a method where everything ran through encrypted loadstrings, and on top of that strings were encrypted again using another technique, and it was all running through another AddOn that was a seperate module that kept all the decrypting functions (And by the way - this is what it looks like when I don't work hard to encrypt works). |
| 03:40.06 | hp94 | Now I've got a mess of an addon left: |
| 03:40.42 | hp94 | http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/stopwatch/files/1-stopwatch/ |
| 03:45.46 | nohh | that's rediculous |
| 04:17.42 | lXl | You're sponsored by real estate? |
| 04:20.14 | hp94 | lXl: Technically, only that one and another one was paid for by a real estate agency - someone who likes the game thought that if it would sway even a single sale that's $20,000 in commision, so it was worth a shot. I approved (a while ago) and this is the type of thing he wanted. |
| 04:20.57 | lXl | People would have to view the source code to even see that.. |
| 04:21.01 | hp94 | Like I said, this all happened a while ago. |
| 04:21.21 | lXl | It just seems weird I wouldn't be thinking of buying a house in Rift, unless they added PoH |
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| 04:22.29 | hp94 | Eventually - And hopefully - =D |
| 04:22.45 | lXl | I'll have a shack and I'll like it. |
| 04:24.16 | hp94 | isn't a hermit (probably). |
| 04:24.28 | lXl | ... |
| 04:25.15 | hp94 | Just sayin', lol |
| 04:38.50 | hp94 | Anyone here like Muse? |
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| 04:53.41 | hp94 | ZorbaBeta: Is there any word on the timeline for Chat API? |
| 05:01.45 | Cairenn | err, hp94? |
| 05:05.00 | hp94 | Caireen, whats up? |
| 05:05.19 | hp94 | Cairenn* |
| 05:05.21 | Cairenn | You were joking around, right? About stopwatch? You weren't actually going to do that, right? |
| 05:05.33 | hp94 | Do what? And should we move this to a private chat again? |
| 05:05.43 | hp94 | I just want to be respectful |
| 05:06.25 | Cairenn | I have no intention of being disrespectful, I am just trying to verify that you're kidding around. I mean, you've got to be, right? |
| 05:07.19 | hp94 | Stopwatch kinda works, I mean, it has a timer thing, but I can change the name to Hp94's Stopwatch - And I think we should move this to a private chat. |
| 05:07.30 | Cairenn | No no no no, not that |
| 05:07.33 | hp94 | Just to do this 'right', if thats what we're going for. |
| 05:07.36 | Cairenn | The ad |
| 05:07.37 | hp94 | Alright, no problem. |
| 05:07.53 | Cairenn | the whole remax thing |
| 05:07.59 | Cairenn | You're joking around, right? |
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| 05:09.32 | hp94 | We should move this to a private chat, I'll open up one because I don't want to continue talking about it in this channel. |
| 05:09.44 | Cairenn | Err, why? |
| 05:10.18 | Cairenn | What's wrong with talking about it in here? We're just talking. |
| 05:10.20 | hp94 | Because I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, truthfully. |
| 05:10.32 | Cairenn | How so? |
| 05:11.13 | hp94 | Just with things that have been happening in real life. |
| 05:11.41 | Cairenn | Okay, but how does that have to do with me sharing a chuckle with you over that? |
| 05:12.03 | Cairenn | is confused |
| 05:13.06 | hp94 | My bad, I didn't mean to be confusing - I hope it is funny =D |
| 05:13.20 | hp94 | chuckles =) |
| 05:13.29 | hp94 | shares chuckles* |
| 05:13.39 | Cairenn | is still confused, but oh well |
| 05:14.00 | Cairenn | I am sorry to hear you are having real life problems, I hope they get fixed soon. |
| 05:14.25 | hp94 | Thanks |
| 05:14.54 | Cairenn | But I still don't understand how your real life problems have anything to do with what I first asked, and with whether or not we can talk in here or if it has to be in a private chat for some reason. Oh well, back to my show. :) |
| 06:06.02 | hp94 | Not mckenziemcccccc! |
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| 06:10.06 | hp94 | Yay, mckenziemcccccc! |
| 06:13.57 | Lyme | So on Curseforge, now that they have enabled rift addons, how can you tell if a addon you clicked is for wow or rift? |
| 06:15.41 | Cairenn | Easy, go to RiftUI or WoWI instead ;) |
| 06:15.56 | mckenziemc | ?? |
| 06:16.55 | Lyme | Cairenn: probably, but that doesn't answer the question. mckenziemc take http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/stopwatch/ how do you know what game it is for? |
| 06:16.59 | seebs | I am getting better at Marksman. |
| 06:17.02 | seebs | ... |
| 06:17.07 | seebs | "rift.curseforge.com"? |
| 06:17.12 | seebs | What is the first word there? |
| 06:17.18 | Cairenn | Lyme: Come on, it was funny :p |
| 06:17.20 | Lyme | ahh, didn't notice it |
| 06:17.35 | Lyme | but other than that, there really is nothing to notify you |
| 06:17.43 | mckenziemc | so confused |
| 06:17.56 | seebs | I got my marksman through about 10 quests in a crowded area, died exactly once. To falling damage. |
| 06:18.53 | Cairenn | seebs: cool |
| 06:20.05 | Lyme | I swear playing bard gave me carpel tunnel |
| 06:20.16 | hp94 | Theres also curse links that are non-forge based: http://rift.curse.com/downloads/rift-addons/details/stopwatch.aspx |
| 06:20.18 | hp94 | For example |
| 06:21.03 | seebs | Marksman is the hardest spec I've found yet. |
| 06:21.08 | Lyme | That page is better, shows a rift icon |
| 06:21.48 | hp94 | It also shows 0 downloads =( |
| 06:22.12 | hp94 | But thats probably because I'm still learning to program =) |
| 06:22.26 | Lyme | are addons live yet? |
| 06:22.45 | hp94 | They're on the PTR |
| 06:22.53 | hp94 | So, somewhat live. |
| 06:23.05 | Lyme | no they are not live, expect no downloads |
| 06:23.15 | Lyme | until then |
| 06:25.21 | hp94 | But zero is such a low number... perhaps if I download one myself I'll feel better =V |
| 06:26.04 | mckenziemc | 0 is higher than -1 |
| 06:28.12 | hp94 | Not according to my: http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/calculator/ |
| 06:28.16 | hp94 | MUHAHAHAHA |
| 06:30.06 | hp94 | Actually, wait... that's bad. |
| 06:30.14 | hp94 | I should fix that. |
| 06:32.28 | TMc51 | Wow, fail. [PLEASE NOTE: THIS ADDON IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS NOTHING WORTH DOWNLOADING AT THE MOMENT.] And yet Downloads: 13 |
| 06:33.08 | hp94 | Which addon is that? |
| 06:33.29 | TMc51 | ncKillingBlow. When I say "Nothing worth downloading", I'm pretty much saying it |
| 06:33.36 | TMc51 | 's a mostly empty file |
| 06:34.25 | TMc51 | there currently isn't anything in the API yet to support what the addon does, and it's currently a placeholder for the name. |
| 06:39.03 | Lyme | I downloaded it 9 times, cause it is AWESOME! |
| 06:39.17 | TMc51 | lols |
| 06:41.36 | Lyme | The other four downloaders are posers |
| 06:50.14 | hp94 | Two are me |
| 06:51.10 | Lyme | like I said, posers |
| 06:51.13 | Lyme | :p |
| 07:23.16 | hp94 | This IRC needs about 20% more chat. |
| 07:30.39 | mckenziemc | chat chat chat chat |
| 07:33.49 | mckenziemc | chat |
| 07:33.55 | brainscan | chat |
| 07:35.12 | TMc51 | tahc |
| 07:40.16 | hp94 | tahc? |
| 07:41.02 | brainscan | chat backwards bahaha |
| 07:42.38 | hp94 | chalk |
| 07:47.00 | mckenziemc | klahc? |
| 07:51.53 | mckenziemc | subtly pokes Caire nn|afk |
| 07:52.23 | Cairenn|afk | night mckenziemc |
| 07:52.29 | mckenziemc | goodnight |
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| 08:46.33 | hp94 | Hey wait a minute... |
| 08:46.38 | hp94 | Cairenn, you there? |
| 08:46.58 | hp94 | This page got deleted: http://www.riftui.com/downloads/info5-SafeChatEncryption.html |
| 08:48.06 | hp94 | Anyone? Anyone at all? |
| 08:52.30 | Sling | perhaps it was breaking the ´not obfuscated´ rule? |
| 08:53.02 | hp94 | Its not obfuscated at all. |
| 08:53.18 | Sling | well the output would be, i guess :) |
| 08:53.43 | hp94 | 5.All Add-On code must be completely visible, not hidden or obfuscated in any way, and freely accessible to and viewable by the general public. |
| 08:53.54 | hp94 | Which it is, completely. |
| 08:55.23 | hp94 | For example, the first function: |
| 08:55.26 | hp94 | function Alphabet() |
| 08:55.35 | hp94 | upperCase = {"A", "B", "C", "D", "E", "F", "G", "H", ... etc |
| 08:55.56 | hp94 | How does that seem obfuscated? --Although, I should probably be defending myself on RIFTUI, not here. |
| 08:55.59 | hp94 | I'm just miffed |
| 08:56.38 | Nobgul-bnc | hp94, hrmm |
| 08:58.16 | Nobgul-bnc | I would think about rewriting your addon's properlly and not obfuscating code. |
| 08:58.22 | hp94 | Nobgul-bnc: Is there any other rules it's breaking? |
| 08:58.29 | seebs | AAGGHHH |
| 08:58.31 | Sling | hehe |
| 08:58.31 | Nobgul-bnc | Several from what i see |
| 08:58.35 | hp94 | Rewrite it? |
| 08:58.37 | seebs | Dude. You don't *get* it. |
| 08:58.39 | Nobgul-bnc | Includsing in game advertising |
| 08:58.52 | hp94 | In SafeChat? |
| 08:58.56 | Nobgul-bnc | I wasn't here for the conversation but just read a bit. Im in no mood to look more. |
| 08:58.58 | seebs | Stop trying to not-break specific rules. Write stuff that's not even in the direction that the rules are warning about. |
| 08:59.01 | hp94 | That's pretty much the first AddOn I wrote. |
| 08:59.02 | Nobgul-bnc | mabey seebs can help u |
| 08:59.18 | seebs | Not I. |
| 08:59.41 | hp94 | SafeChat had alot of downloads on RIFTUI and Curse - if theres something you want me to change on SafeChat I can. |
| 08:59.52 | Nobgul-bnc | anyway in game advertisments of any kind are against the rules. |
| 08:59.59 | Nobgul-bnc | As well is obfuscated code. |
| 09:00.39 | hp94 | What do you want taken out of SafeChat? |
| 09:00.47 | Sling | i´d expect any addon writer to receive a message on which grounds their addon was breaking the policy, though |
| 09:00.54 | Nobgul-bnc | You would be better off talking to Cairenn|afk, as to the exact reasons, she will be back in a few hours |
| 09:01.10 | hp94 | Well, I actually should be going to sleep soon =S |
| 09:01.30 | Nobgul-bnc | As should I. Sleep on it tommorow is another day. |
| 09:01.45 | Nobgul-bnc | Sling, that may have happened, not sure so I cannot say. |
| 09:01.54 | hp94 | Well, I guess you're right - I don't understand, to be honest, but perhaps I will tomorrow. |
| 09:03.36 | hp94 | (And I just checked PMs, email/junk folder, nothing so far) |
| 09:03.52 | Nobgul-bnc | Sorry i can'tshed more lite on the situation as i said i was dealing with drunkards at the time =P |
| 09:06.13 | Nobgul-bnc | Ok its 5 am i have been working 24 hours, time for me to die on the couch for a few hours |
| 09:06.37 | hp94 | Have a good ..morning =D |
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| 09:59.48 | hp94 | The RIFT addon policy second page replies is monsterous. |
| 10:00.11 | hp94 | I don't know why I type any more in here - at least without waiting until the afternoon when more people are on. |
| 10:00.49 | Sunspots | A lot of people idle and will see what you've written |
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| 14:30.25 | Ackis | did you know if you pin rift launcher to your windows 7 taskbar it shows you "recently played characters" |
| 14:30.53 | Sunspots | not for me :( |
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| 17:38.52 | Cairenn | Just as a generalized FYI, since I'm sure people are probably wondering: I had originally blocked SafeChat because it is my belief that it violates the spirit of the AddOn policy, if not the letter. I decided he was correct though, I shouldn't have done so until after I talk to Trion. So, I've unblocked it for now, sent him a PM and sent Trion an email so we can get a 'judgement' on it and cc'd him on the email. |
| 17:46.43 | Dramiel | Leave addon, but ban users who use it for stupidity :p |
| 17:47.15 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:47.49 | Cairenn | If we banned all the users on the site that are exhibiting signs of stupidity, we'd lose at least half of our users. ;) |
| 17:48.58 | Dramiel | quality, not quantity |
| 17:49.05 | Cairenn | hehhee |
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| 17:52.09 | Ackis | only half? |
| 17:52.15 | Cairenn | We usually do pretty well though. The majority of the users that are actively involved in the community on our sites tend to be pretty good. Probably because we make it very clear from the get-go that we won't abide ass-hattery on our sites |
| 17:54.03 | Morv | that would be great for the official forums too *hrhr |
| 17:54.44 | Cairenn | There's a reason why sensible UI community members tend to use our site(s) more than the official forums. ;) |
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| 19:28.13 | TMc|sleepzing | Cairenn: If you banned members for stupidity, the entire community would be gone eventually. =P |
| 19:28.20 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 19:30.32 | Nobgul-bnc | lol |
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| 21:59.04 | hp94 | So... |
| 21:59.57 | Nobgul-bnc | so |
| 22:00.05 | Nobgul-bnc | You should have gotten a e-mail. |
| 22:01.04 | hp94 | Oh - About how the AddOn breaks the spirit of development, not the rules? |
| 22:01.11 | hp94 | I think that's fair. |
| 22:01.16 | hp94 | And its always better safe than sorry. |
| 22:01.55 | Nobgul-bnc | aye. also my msg about the other one. |
| 22:02.42 | hp94 | I just checked all my emails and junk folders, I mustn't have gotten another one - What did you want to add? |
| 22:03.08 | Nobgul-bnc | Your stopwatch addon has in game advertising in it which is against the rules ...remax.. |
| 22:04.36 | hp94 | That was all done before the AddOn policy - and I do have REMAXs permission for advertising use. I'll probably pull it from the AddOn sites now, and have to talk to everyone else about why it has to. |
| 22:06.03 | Nobgul-bnc | doesn't matter if it was before the addon policy. addon's dont get grandfathered |
| 22:06.17 | Nobgul-bnc | The policy is the policy it now breaks it so ....ya know.. |
| 22:07.03 | Nobgul-bnc | It's not on our site anyway so it doesnt affect me/us/the site. it was just a friendly heads up |
| 22:08.15 | hp94 | I didn't put it up on RIFTUI because it breaks their policy, and once policies are in place I don't break them (Hence removing advertising now - although I was under a lot of pressure to go through with it regardless). |
| 22:09.36 | Nobgul-bnc | hp94, it breaks trion's first and foremost. |
| 22:09.48 | Nobgul-bnc | shrug. |
| 22:10.25 | Nobgul-bnc | You seemed lost as to why your addons were being removed / placed on hold, but you now know the reason. so my job here is done. back to complaining about the download speed on steam |
| 22:10.46 | hp94 | Augggh I hate the download speed on steam. |
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| 22:14.35 | hp94 | When chat API comes out, would anyone want to help me with an anti-gold spam addon? |
| 22:15.48 | Nobgul-bnc | like bigboy for wow? |
| 22:17.40 | mckenziemc | badboy |
| 22:18.42 | Nobgul-bnc | oops yea lol |
| 22:25.05 | hp94 | http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/stopwatch/files/3-stopwatch/ and http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/calculator/files/2-calculator/ have been updated. |
| 22:31.29 | Dramiel | All Add-On code must be completely visible, not hidden or obfuscated in any way, and freely accessible to and viewable by the general public. |
| 22:41.10 | Myrroddin | hp94 I just approved both stopwatch and calculator on curseforge |
| 22:53.18 | hp94 | Thanks, I removed the advertising from them. |
| 22:54.04 | hp94 | Dramiel, I'm working and have been working on de--obfuscating, it shouldn't be much longer. |
| 22:54.10 | hp94 | Renaming everything. |
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