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| 01:18.18 | hp94 | Wow, is anything important happening today on RIFT? |
| 01:19.16 | hp94 | Normally, there's only 2 moderators on at a time, now there's BrianMorin FireCait Vespera Zann ZorbaTHut all online now. |
| 01:51.50 | hp94 | wb |
| 02:06.27 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
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| 03:09.51 | nicoli_s | Cairenn:i noticed on riftui for the latest addons, it reports 4 pages, but nothing is shown on pages 2-4 |
| 03:09.56 | nicoli_s | seems like a bug |
| 03:10.09 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: yeah, it's a bug |
| 03:10.41 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 03:10.59 | nicoli_s | now yall work like mozilla right,so i get a 500$ bounty? :P |
| 03:12.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:29.35 | nicoli_s | i will also accept 500 shots at blizzcon |
| 03:29.44 | nicoli_s | whichever is more conveineit |
| 03:30.43 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:31.22 | Nobgul-bnc | nicoli_s, you lost me there. I missed the punch line? |
| 03:31.30 | Nobgul-bnc | <-- is tired atm |
| 03:32.17 | nicoli_s | same here |
| 03:32.35 | Nobgul-bnc | Im still trying to figure it out lol, a hint? |
| 03:32.37 | nicoli_s | worked 60 hours last week, and only 3 hour week here, and still got total of 30 hours :( |
| 03:32.49 | nicoli_s | figure what out? |
| 03:33.02 | Nobgul-bnc | i didint get the refrence to mozilla |
| 03:34.29 | nicoli_s | they offer bug bounties for people who discover vulnerabilities |
| 03:34.52 | nicoli_s | same as cairenn will be offering me liquors for a small bug |
| 03:35.03 | Nobgul-bnc | lol |
| 03:35.52 | Cairenn | You found a bug, though, not a vulnerability - so the bounty will be smaller ;) |
| 03:36.35 | mckenziemc1 | details |
| 03:36.40 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:36.59 | Nobgul-bnc | aqh i got it now. |
| 03:37.07 | Nobgul-bnc | Didn't realize they did that. |
| 03:38.06 | dolby | bug was known, but thanks =D |
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| 04:37.16 | hp94 | WTB AddOn Help over skype, paying with Yellowcakeu-235 enriched weapons grade uranium |
| 04:37.55 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:39.46 | hp94 | Paying by the drum |
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| 15:06.33 | nicoli_s | morning everyone |
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| 15:10.10 | Cairenn | hi nicoli_s |
| 15:18.06 | Ackis | hi nicoli_s |
| 15:18.07 | Ackis | hi Cairenn|afk |
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| 16:35.13 | Dramiel | is there any syntaxe for printing colored text into chat? |
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| 16:38.04 | Sling | yes, /kick <nick> no colored text! |
| 16:40.04 | Dramiel | very helpful |
| 16:40.09 | kergoth__ | use a pastey/pastebin that supports syntax highlighting. as sling says, *never* use irc color codes (also, its non-standard, afaik there's primarily the mirc encoding, but most of us just filter it out anyway) |
| 16:40.32 | Dramiel | I mean in game :p |
| 16:40.38 | kergoth__ | oh :) |
| 16:40.50 | kergoth__ | that makes much more sense |
| 16:40.52 | Sling | a :) |
| 16:41.15 | Dramiel | writing "print" command that can handle tables and coloring would be very nice :) |
| 16:42.42 | nohh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.13 | nohh | oh god my eyes what have i done |
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| 20:17.21 | Dramiel | ok here is question.. how to take screenshot of fullscreen app (rift) in vmwared windows 7 on macbook pro 2011? |
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| 20:28.54 | nohh | ..printscreen? |
| 20:29.37 | Dramiel | negative sir, there is no print screen on macbooks :p |
| 20:30.35 | nohh | F13? |
| 20:31.14 | Dramiel | nope |
| 20:31.24 | Dramiel | had to take screenshot of mac and cut out vmware :p |
| 20:32.27 | nohh | Control, Open Apple, Reset |
| 20:33.26 | Dramiel | http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/rowdy/ me happy now :p |
| 20:34.11 | nohh | experimental, sounds so dangerous |
| 20:34.34 | Dramiel | it's rocket science actually! |
| 20:35.36 | nohh | I'm curious - how well does Rift run.. inside VMWare.. on OSX.. on a Macbook Pro? |
| 20:36.27 | Dramiel | in vmware fusion on low its ok for developing addons |
| 20:36.54 | Dramiel | wouldn't use it for normal play tho, since in dualboot on same computer it runs on ultra with windows |
| 20:39.15 | nohh | sounds about as fun as me doing iphone development on an osx running inside virtualbox on a windows machine |
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| 20:42.06 | Dramiel | its actually pretty ok.. I'm used to osx now and you don't need pretty graphics for standing inside city and constantly using /reloadui macro :p |
| 20:45.15 | Dramiel | also there is quite a bit of difference between virtualbox/paralels and vmware fusion.. windows 7 runs really well - there is no noticable performance loss when running win 7 (.net development) and 2x win xp (ie7 and ie8 for testing) in vmware on osx until there is some hardcore 3d action |
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| 21:08.11 | seebs | I haven't tried much on crossover, I don't have a fast enough machine at the moment. It'd be an interesting comparison. |
| 21:09.57 | Dramiel | yea.. rift pts refuses to run on crossover :p and latest tests didn't go very well on crossover |
| 21:10.27 | seebs | They seem to think that doesn't-run-under-WINE is a bug, but not yet enough of a bug to make it into the testing routine. :) |
| 21:10.50 | Dramiel | there is problem with crossover games being able to use only one core or something - and that is no-good on 4core laptop |
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| 21:24.43 | nicoli_s | Dramiel:thanks for the table print, you are awesome |
| 21:29.30 | Dramiel | :) |
| 21:31.22 | hp94 | table print? |
| 21:31.37 | nicoli_s | instead of printing the memory address of the table, it will pretty print its contents |
| 21:31.45 | nicoli_s | which is super helpful for debugging |
| 21:31.50 | hp94 | oh well geez |
| 21:31.57 | hp94 | Where are my manners |
| 21:33.35 | ZorbaBeta | there's a dump() function coming in an upcoming version that should make that even easier |
| 21:34.01 | nicoli_s | sweet |
| 21:34.12 | nicoli_s | i always love options |
| 21:40.20 | hp94 | Hmm, my files not immediately available on RIFTUI =( |
| 21:40.30 | nicoli_s | then put them on rift curseforge |
| 21:41.50 | nohh | fight! fight! |
| 21:42.27 | nicoli_s | no, just throwing it out there |
| 21:42.32 | Dramiel | how does the curseforge packager work? it doesn't package commits when marked as experimental? or is there something I have to do to automatically create packages? |
| 21:42.47 | Dramiel | riftui is not competitor to curseforge until it gets git, end of discussion :p |
| 21:43.02 | nicoli_s | yeah experiemental is only for stuff not ready to release |
| 21:43.13 | nicoli_s | if yer ready to release, but not final, then you can mark it as being an alpha or beta |
| 21:43.23 | Dramiel | ok.. I was hoping it would create at least alpha packages |
| 21:44.05 | Dramiel | ok probably stupid question.. but how do I mark commit as alpha version? :p |
| 21:44.23 | nicoli_s | well it does, i just think it being experimental is what keeps it from packaging, but i can check with our dev |
| 21:44.39 | Dramiel | nah, not important :) |
| 21:44.59 | nicoli_s | http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-faq/ for info on our repo system |
| 21:45.02 | Dramiel | gonna un-mark it as experimental once it can do something else than printing |
| 21:45.48 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 21:46.10 | hp94 | This project is awaiting approval.Our administrators will be reviewing your project any minute now. |
| 21:47.10 | hp94 | Oh, wait... |
| 21:47.11 | hp94 | http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/library_tables/files/1-library_tables/ |
| 21:47.24 | nicoli_s | approved |
| 21:48.35 | hp94 | Approved? |
| 21:49.02 | nicoli_s | yeah i approved your addon |
| 21:49.52 | hp94 | On RIFTUI? |
| 21:49.58 | nicoli_s | on rift curseforge |
| 21:50.04 | Dramiel | mmm linq for lua.. that should be fun :p |
| 21:50.12 | hp94 | Oh, alright |
| 21:50.22 | nicoli_s | Dramiel:im pretty sure ckknight actually did that |
| 21:50.27 | nicoli_s | for whatever reason |
| 21:50.46 | Dramiel | the obvious reason - linq is awesome! |
| 21:51.01 | nicoli_s | yes it is |
| 21:51.09 | hp94 | @nicoli_s: That addons mainly for you, if you need anything with tables. |
| 21:51.15 | Dramiel | too bad the performance would be horrible :p |
| 21:51.24 | nicoli_s | Dramiel:yeah his is pretty bad |
| 21:52.01 | nicoli_s | mmm snack mix |
| 21:52.29 | nohh | wait, linq for lua? to do what? get info from a table? |
| 21:52.40 | nicoli_s | to do anything |
| 21:53.01 | Dramiel | linq makes world better place |
| 21:53.22 | nicoli_s | im loving using Linq2Sql for work |
| 21:53.47 | nohh | eh, it's just syntactic sugar |
| 21:53.58 | nicoli_s | delicious sugar |
| 21:54.14 | nohh | guess im used to writing things out it's really no big deal |
| 21:54.58 | nicoli_s | i was in that same boat when i started using it, but ive become a convert |
| 21:55.56 | Dramiel | the syntaxe c# and vb provides is syntatic sugar, but the methods itself are not |
| 21:56.19 | jnwhiteh | hp94: oh god, the whitespace |
| 21:56.24 | jnwhiteh | please get a real editor =) |
| 21:56.31 | jnwhiteh | you have trailing whitespace all over the place! |
| 21:56.34 | hp94 | The whitespace? |
| 21:56.39 | kergoth__ | ew |
| 21:57.00 | hp94 | In notepad++ its very organized. |
| 21:57.05 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 21:57.05 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5e5c22c6cc4cd364a0bce926a05029c0.png |
| 21:57.07 | jnwhiteh | yeah, not so much |
| 21:57.28 | nohh | also... I thought Linq2sql was dead and everyone was supposed to switch to EF |
| 21:57.42 | Dramiel | linq 2 sql and EF are two different things |
| 21:57.47 | Dramiel | like different in purpose |
| 21:57.48 | hp94 | Hmm, I've seen that editor before somewhere.... |
| 21:58.01 | kergoth` | it's vim |
| 21:58.25 | jnwhiteh | with not my normal color scheme |
| 21:58.29 | jnwhiteh | but one that highlights the issue =) |
| 21:58.51 | nohh | heh, good ol' ocd coders |
| 21:59.01 | nohh | I hate trailing whitespace too |
| 21:59.16 | jnwhiteh | everyone should |
| 21:59.18 | jnwhiteh | kergoth`: OH |
| 21:59.21 | jnwhiteh | I was teaching a course last week |
| 21:59.26 | jnwhiteh | using IntelliJ |
| 21:59.29 | nohh | can't see it.. but I know it's there.. wasting my precious bytes |
| 21:59.44 | jnwhiteh | they had an option enabled on all the machines/profiles that allowed you to place the cursor beyond the end of line |
| 21:59.52 | jnwhiteh | so *nothing* make sense when you navigated with the keyboard |
| 21:59.53 | jnwhiteh | it was sad. |
| 22:00.55 | jnwhiteh | hp94: also, please refactor your argument checking =) |
| 22:01.09 | jnwhiteh | there's a mandatory string concatenation anytime anyone calls one of them for an assert that obstensibly passes |
| 22:01.41 | hp94 | Refactor? |
| 22:01.45 | hp94 | Brb, googling how to do it |
| 22:01.58 | jnwhiteh | just write a function that does the argument checking for you |
| 22:02.16 | jnwhiteh | argcheck(tableName, "table.range") |
| 22:02.23 | jnwhiteh | also, table.median has the argcheck for table.range |
| 22:03.33 | nohh | and from that screenshot, table.meanofabssum's assert refers to itself as table.abssum in the assert error |
| 22:03.49 | jnwhiteh | also PI should likely be a local variable in your file, no sense in making a stray global |
| 22:03.56 | jnwhiteh | just some suggestions |
| 22:04.22 | Dramiel | if v == tostring(v) then - also no good |
| 22:04.31 | hp94 | np, but ill get at it later |
| 22:04.50 | hp94 | busy with wow programming |
| 22:04.52 | jnwhiteh | i dont even know what v == tostring(v) means |
| 22:04.53 | nohh | wonders when one would need the average absolute value of values in a table |
| 22:04.54 | hp94 | =( |
| 22:05.06 | jnwhiteh | certainly not what you actually meant to do :P |
| 22:05.18 | jnwhiteh | good way to learn though! |
| 22:05.50 | kergoth` | jnwhiteh: oh god, letting your cursor go beyond end of line makes no sense at all. i can't imagine why you'd want such a thing. in *theory* i could see it in a publishing or word processing app, but even that is questionable given you can use other mechanisms |
| 22:05.52 | kergoth` | shakes head |
| 22:05.58 | jnwhiteh | kergoth`: it *encouraged* it |
| 22:06.01 | jnwhiteh | was terrible |
| 22:06.42 | nohh | easy way to align a bunch of single line comments to the right of a block of code? |
| 22:06.55 | jnwhiteh | gofmt =) |
| 22:07.00 | nicoli_s | hp94:still doing wow stuff? |
| 22:07.04 | jnwhiteh | high-fives kergoth` |
| 22:07.04 | hp94 | Also, with my addon, I doubt its bug free anyways, the way I made that was in wow whenever I needed a function for tables, I just stuck it into that file and went on my merry way, no real testing, and it sat for, idk, years |
| 22:07.13 | hp94 | nicoli_s: Yes, but I get paid for it now =D |
| 22:07.24 | nohh | ._. |
| 22:09.54 | hp94 | Why the ._. |
| 22:10.58 | nohh | who's paying you to make WoW addons |
| 22:11.30 | hp94 | Xelerated Guides and Manaview Inc. |
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| 22:11.54 | nicoli_s | lol i love the Inc. at the end |
| 22:12.24 | ZorbaTHut | PTS update, though not yet unlocked. I'll be updating the forums soon |
| 22:12.26 | hp94 | Well, it costs a couple grand to go from proprietership to incorporated, shares and all. |
| 22:12.58 | Dramiel | ZorbaTHut: I hope you didn't break my stuff I've been working on all day :p |
| 22:13.19 | jnwhiteh | hp94: unfortunate to see that I've somehow managed to help keep you in business |
| 22:13.31 | hp94 | jnwhiteh: What do you mean? |
| 22:13.36 | kergoth` | jnwhiteh: started writing my first go code that wasn't hello world or some sort of exercise the other day. started on a rewrite of a build tool i founded in go rather than the current python. quite enjoying myself so far, even if it never ends up going anywhere. just fun to code in :) |
| 22:13.50 | jnwhiteh | hp94: I'm fairly certain you're replacing the functionality that we asked them to remove three weeks ago |
| 22:13.54 | ZorbaTHut | dramiel, modified Event.Ability.AvailabilityChange a bit, but besides that, it's mostly bugfixes and a new small feature or two |
| 22:14.00 | jnwhiteh | because they were including our addons illegally |
| 22:14.26 | hp94 | Really? They actually have two people that he wanted to rewrite the whole thing. |
| 22:14.32 | Dramiel | good :) |
| 22:14.36 | hp94 | Is that in both or one? |
| 22:14.42 | seebs | Yeah, long story short, if you're doing business with them, I'm sure not gonna try to help you with anything. |
| 22:14.50 | seebs | Professional ethics are a great idea. |
| 22:16.03 | sylvanaar | oh those guys contacted me, wanted me to put thier name on my addons |
| 22:16.26 | jnwhiteh | they re-implemented TomTom is the shadiest possible way |
| 22:16.33 | jnwhiteh | literally just copy and pasted most of the code |
| 22:16.51 | kergoth` | yikes, not exactly clean-room. talk about violating copyright |
| 22:16.55 | nicoli_s | why bother when they could just use it? |
| 22:17.06 | jnwhiteh | nicoli_s: they can't bundle it in their addon without my permission |
| 22:17.11 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 22:17.11 | jnwhiteh | they didn't seek my permission before or after I contacted them |
| 22:17.20 | jnwhiteh | and the license of TomTom explicitly disallows this |
| 22:17.35 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 22:17.44 | jnwhiteh | mine was a tiny portion of things |
| 22:17.49 | jnwhiteh | they were also using Tourguide, which they can't do. |
| 22:19.37 | nicoli_s | thats sad that they have to resort to that sort of stuff |
| 22:19.42 | jnwhiteh | kergoth`: yeah I saw the code you were working on. I'm currently writing a minecraft server in Go for shits and giggles along with some others. |
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| 22:19.46 | jnwhiteh | well, they're already selling addons |
| 22:19.49 | jnwhiteh | which is against the UI policy |
| 22:20.01 | jnwhiteh | (the legality and enforceability of which I'm not interested in discussing) |
| 22:20.03 | hp94 | Sorry, when someone picks up the phone upstairs it kicks out my internet downstairs |
| 22:20.04 | nohh | and apparently they stole their guide content from wow-pro? |
| 22:20.09 | hp94 | Which sucks cause we pay seperate rent |
| 22:20.14 | jnwhiteh | that sucks |
| 22:20.54 | nohh | minecraft server in Go? that sounds.. laggy o: |
| 22:21.29 | hp94 | jnwhiteh: Thanks for not discussing the legality of it, I don't want to get into a 5 hour discussion |
| 22:21.37 | jnwhiteh | nohh: ... why would it be laggy? |
| 22:21.50 | jnwhiteh | that doesn't make any sense, considering the notchian server is written in Java of all languages.. |
| 22:23.06 | kergoth` | jnwhiteh: neat, a minecraft server sounds like a fun one |
| 22:23.13 | kergoth` | never actually played that.. been avoiding getting hooked on it |
| 22:23.16 | kergoth` | heheh |
| 22:23.19 | jnwhiteh | kergoth`: its called chunkymonkey, its on my page if you ever wanna glance |
| 22:23.25 | jnwhiteh | we have some interesting discussions happening |
| 22:23.51 | kergoth` | always good to read some code, especially with a new language, will probably take a look, though the list of code i need to read is getting quite long :) |
| 22:24.43 | jnwhiteh | nohh: ? |
| 22:25.19 | hp94 | They actually are rewriting everything though, so I can see there's effort in them actually trying not to steal anything. As well, I was told the first programmer created the addon, took the money, and was no where to be found for updates/maintenance/etc: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/guideui.png |
| 22:25.46 | jnwhiteh | yeah, but they're doing it because we forced them to |
| 22:25.51 | jnwhiteh | so I don't really feel bad for them =) |
| 22:26.08 | jnwhiteh | considering they were making money off my work without saying a word to me |
| 22:26.36 | nohh | not based on first hand experience, just never really considered Go more than a toy language... |
| 22:26.46 | jnwhiteh | its much more than that |
| 22:27.19 | jnwhiteh | its incredibly powerful and competitive with C, C++ in speed in some things, with an unoptimised runtime and compiler |
| 22:27.23 | jnwhiteh | so its ideal for this, actually =) |
| 22:28.30 | nohh | I think there's too many damn languages floating around with only marginal utility over others |
| 22:28.31 | ZorbaTHut | docs, examples, changelist updated |
| 22:29.24 | hp94 | jnwhiteh, please don't blame me for this. I didn't know any of this until just now, and I'm trying to talk to Mike now about it. I mean, I'm glad I'm the guy whos making it so its not stolen work, but at the same time I don't really want to be associated with people like that. |
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| 22:29.40 | hp94 | Although, even now that I know the truth his story doesn't sound so bad either -but it doesn't really change much. |
| 22:29.47 | jnwhiteh | I'm not blaming you for anything |
| 22:29.48 | Nobgul-bnc | are you taking money from them? |
| 22:29.53 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 22:29.55 | jnwhiteh | just talking |
| 22:30.00 | jnwhiteh | i was surprised to find the link, in this channel of all places |
| 22:30.15 | hp94 | The link? |
| 22:30.29 | jnwhiteh | between my addons and manaview |
| 22:30.40 | jnwhiteh | anyway, I'm off to bed now, have to teach in the morning again. |
| 22:30.50 | hp94 | Good luck |
| 22:31.11 | jnwhiteh | heh, if it doesn't go well its the fault of the students, I've been doing this for so long =) |
| 22:31.50 | Dramiel | sure, 5 hours after writing print command that handles tables zorba decides to add dump command :p kill me now |
| 22:32.17 | mckenziemc | ~trout Dramiel |
| 22:32.17 | purl | ACTION slaps Dramiel around a bit with a large trout! |
| 22:32.42 | hp94 | 5 hours of writing a print command for tables? |
| 22:33.36 | Dramiel | time .. after .. doing stuff -> not time .. of .. doing stuff |
| 22:34.48 | nohh | 5 glorious hours! |
| 22:34.54 | nohh | you were the king of table printing |
| 22:35.01 | nohh | don't let anyone take that away from you Dramiel |
| 22:35.14 | Dramiel | I won't, I'm preparing counter attack! |
| 22:35.16 | nohh | most people don't even get that much |
| 22:35.53 | Dramiel | and yea it might have been 5 hours actually, since there was first version to test things out, second written properly and then unit tests |
| 22:36.54 | hp94 | Dramiel, did you get my tables addon link? |
| 22:37.05 | Dramiel | unfortunately, yes |
| 22:37.08 | Nobgul-bnc | lol |
| 22:37.37 | nohh | aw :( |
| 22:42.03 | Morv | ZorbaTHut: thanks for serialize()! :) |
| 22:43.02 | hp94 | serialize? |
| 22:43.28 | nohh | turns things into frosted flakes |
| 22:43.53 | Morv | yes, serialize. Not steri... |
| 22:44.21 | Morv | its used for dump(myTable). See the changelog :) |
| 22:54.52 | ZorbaTHut | morv, you're welcome :) I needed it myself to make debugging events easier, figured I may as well package it up for developers as well |
| 22:55.38 | nicoli_s | we def appreciate it |
| 22:56.32 | nicoli_s | its not often we get to thank the devs :) |
| 22:59.47 | seebs | http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?222402-Guide-How-to-play-WoW-in-RIFT |
| 22:59.55 | seebs | I was bored. |
| 23:00.28 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 23:02.05 | nicoli_s | man i hate that the project im working on i might not be able to actually show off for months :( |
| 23:02.27 | seebs | Aww. |
| 23:05.31 | nicoli_s | its not rift related either or i could give some hints |
| 23:08.33 | seebs | I finally got to show off my Big Project from work, which is a bit of hackery called pseudo. It's a Unix-like system utility that creates a root-like environment without real root privs. |
| 23:08.38 | seebs | Used for build systems and installs. |
| 23:09.06 | nicoli_s | cool stuff |
| 23:09.26 | nicoli_s | sadly i have to base most of my release schedules around when game companies get off their asses and drop their NDAs |
| 23:09.55 | seebs | I hate NDAs. I grudgingly admit that they probably have to exist, but I don't like 'em. |
| 23:10.56 | hp94 | I like NDAs. They do have to exist, but personally I like how it makes people feel like you're not gonna say anything. |
| 23:11.30 | seebs | If I'm under NDA, I don't say anything. Heck, if I'm under "don't tell people, but" I don't say anything. |
| 23:11.43 | hp94 | "Here's some super awesome confidential information everyone wants to know. Now sign this NDA and we give it all to you." |
| 23:11.50 | hp94 | "Okely dokely neighbourino" |
| 23:12.25 | seebs | Yeah, I don't sign agreements unless I mean it. |
| 23:12.26 | nicoli_s | well it just sucks cuz so much stuff that i do needs feedback from users, but its hard to get that when the users arent allowed to see the info\ |
| 23:12.37 | seebs | Heck, I don't violate MMO ToS, so far as I know. |
| 23:12.57 | hp94 | Pffft, so YOU'VE never broken the RIFT ToS? |
| 23:13.01 | seebs | I even wrote Blizzard support asking for permission before fixing addons for my spouse. Because in theory you aren't allowed to use someone else's account. |
| 23:13.03 | hp94 | Well, I never have either. |
| 23:13.11 | Dramiel | NDA is bitch.. I'm under NDA for 1 year with up to 300k $ fine AFTER finishing project >.> |
| 23:13.12 | seebs | I probably haven't. Not that I know of, anyway. |
| 23:14.29 | Sling | [00:59:49] <seebs> I was bored. |
| 23:14.34 | Sling | with 6.8k posts you seem to have that often :p |
| 23:15.08 | mckenziemc | in a sense, i'm under a lifetime NDA D: |
| 23:15.45 | Sling | well most companies that handle private data have that :p |
| 23:15.53 | Sling | when you quit, you´re still not allowed to disclose it |
| 23:16.48 | hp94 | Wow, seebs, you have 0.25% of all posts on the forums.... made by you. |
| 23:17.26 | Sling | so if there would be 400 user accounts, it would be an equal share |
| 23:18.07 | seebs | Yeah, what the RIFT devs don't like to admit is that I'm actually 1/400 of their entire customer base. |
| 23:18.07 | Sling | i spend too much time ingame to be posting on the forums |
| 23:18.20 | seebs | I post on the forums while compiling or otherwise waiting. |
| 23:18.38 | Sling | when i get a job, it´ll probably increase ye |
| 23:20.20 | hp94 | At 6800 posts, even if it only takes you 1 minute to write one, that 4~ days straight of writing |
| 23:20.45 | seebs | A minute? That'd be a TON of time. |
| 23:21.02 | seebs | I type pretty fast, and most of them are short. |
| 23:21.35 | seebs | But I dunno, I'd guess I spend an hour a day average on the forums. |
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| 23:28.39 | hp94 | What does Utility.Serialize.Inline do? |
| 23:40.21 | Dramiel | Utility.Serialize.Inline({ foo = "bar" }); should return string "{ foo = \"bar\" }" or something similar |
| 23:41.15 | hp94 | K... |
| 23:42.52 | Sling | it can probably also take arrays |
| 23:43.13 | Dramiel | lua has arrays? |
| 23:43.40 | Sling | sure |
| 23:43.45 | Dramiel | where? :p |
| 23:43.47 | Sling | well, tables with indexes |
| 23:43.58 | Dramiel | still a table tho :p |
| 23:45.31 | Dramiel | it probably accepts also string, number, bool and nil |
| 23:45.45 | Dramiel | but can't confirm that until pts is back online |
| 23:46.15 | Dramiel | even tho documentation sais specifically "tables" so maybe not |
| 23:47.30 | Dramiel | hmm it doesn't handle recursion apparently |
| 23:48.16 | nohh | table.key = table dump(table) |
| 23:56.47 | mckenziemc | pokes Cairenn |
| 23:56.59 | Cairenn | hi mckenziemc |
