| 00:13.36 | nicoli_s | sling:get UE studio its great for dealing with large xml files |
| 00:14.02 | Sling | nicoli_s: ive just took a 50MB part of it and that opens fine in xml notepad :) |
| 00:14.16 | Sling | just wanted to see how the fields are called etc |
| 00:15.08 | Sling | but ill check it out |
| 00:15.16 | Sling | since xml notepad is very.. rudimentary |
| 00:17.30 | lXl | So yeah, what happened to Sovereingty? |
| 00:25.04 | *** topic/#riftuidev by Cairenn -> Use pastebin for code snippets longer than a couple lines, please: http://pastebin.com/ || PIL: http://www.lua.org/pil || API Documentation: http://bit.ly/keCkDI || Example AddOns: http://bit.ly/m4rPeR || Expected Channel Behaviour: http://bit.ly/jjbouL || RiftUI.com || rift.curseforge.com || Guilds created: http://bit.ly/kMl6bA || Red 5 Hiring - http://bit.ly/kzc73Z |
| 00:27.05 | fewyn | enough links in the topic? |
| 00:27.25 | Cairenn | nope |
| 00:33.31 | hp94 | Anyone know any good rock or metal bands? |
| 00:45.13 | lXl | Good... metal? |
| 00:45.14 | mckenziemc | has changed the topic to: Use pastebin for topics longer than a couple lines, please. |
| 00:45.17 | mckenziemc | ;) |
| 00:50.34 | nohh | Nickleback |
| 00:50.38 | nohh | so metal |
| 00:50.48 | lXl | Creed |
| 00:51.39 | mckenziemc | www.last.fm |
| 00:57.22 | nohh | Dream Theater/Liquid Tension Experiment, Riverside, Abigail's Ghost, Rishloo |
| 01:22.34 | lXl | Designing a UI for Rift is going to be awkward with all the extra resources. |
| 01:22.58 | lXl | Planar charges, soul vitality, having charge/CP/etc. |
| 01:23.33 | Nobgul-bnc | lXl, you can also look at it in the way that is gives more oppertunity to create many diff addons that do the same thing =) |
| 01:24.17 | lXl | Trimming WoW down was easy, HP and power were all you really needed for player |
| 01:24.25 | lXl | CP dots for rogues. |
| 01:25.33 | lXl | Grid dots will definitely help though |
| 01:26.01 | hp94 | Dream theatre =D |
| 01:26.12 | Nobgul-bnc | grid is gonna get interesting. I couldn't follow it for wow let alone rift lol |
| 01:26.15 | hp94 | panic attack =) |
| 01:26.50 | lXl | Follow what, if a square is colored click it. If it has a red [ ] decurse it. |
| 01:27.09 | Nobgul-bnc | druid healing |
| 01:27.17 | Nobgul-bnc | with the lil dots in the corners and crap |
| 01:27.41 | Cairenn | hp94: seriously? You seriously posted that? So, what, you're the only one who is allowed to make money from UI programming in Lua? |
| 01:28.04 | lXl | ??? |
| 01:28.07 | hp94 | I said MULTIPLE times I'm not in this for profit, and as it stands I'm not making a cent. |
| 01:28.26 | Cairenn | Still doesn't change the fact that you actually posted that? O.O |
| 01:28.34 | hp94 | I support RIFT |
| 01:28.36 | hp94 | 100% |
| 01:28.43 | Cairenn | Yeah? So? |
| 01:29.25 | hp94 | I can tell when I'm not wanted - I'm going to go for a bit. |
| 01:29.32 | Cairenn | lXl: hp seems to have a problem with the thread I put up for Red 5 |
| 01:30.02 | lXl | Where is this |
| 01:30.03 | Cairenn | and I'm trying to figure out why |
| 01:30.09 | Nobgul-bnc | riftui.com |
| 01:30.37 | hp94 | Oh boy... I just read what Nobgul said. |
| 01:30.41 | hp94 | On the forums... |
| 01:31.07 | hp94 | Which means its a paid job =S |
| 01:31.15 | Cairenn | Yes |
| 01:31.16 | Nobgul-bnc | working for red 5 of course it is |
| 01:31.18 | Cairenn | That's the point |
| 01:31.20 | lXl | http://www.wowuigallery.com/bb-gallery/original/75_WoWScrnShot_021410_013034.jpg |
| 01:31.20 | lXl | My UI from WoW BTW.. druid healing really wasn't hard. |
| 01:31.21 | Nobgul-bnc | They are a huge developer |
| 01:31.32 | lXl | Actually, Grid-like frames made it way way easier. |
| 01:31.33 | Cairenn | It's an actual job that is available |
| 01:32.01 | Cairenn | You thought that it was a call for volunteers? |
| 01:32.02 | hp94 | Well now I look bad (again) :( |
| 01:32.34 | Nobgul-bnc | lxl nice |
| 01:32.49 | Cairenn | hokay, so ... maybe I shall just go in and poof all of the replies, yes? |
| 01:32.53 | lXl | I'm probably going to recreate that but a bit more.. nicer looking. |
| 01:33.02 | Cairenn | since it seems to have been a misunderstanding |
| 01:33.24 | Cairenn | hp94: ? |
| 01:34.03 | hp94 | Well, I'm writing a redaction now - You can 'poof' all the replies if you want. |
| 01:34.16 | lXl | http://www.advancedfoottexas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/foot.png Here you go hp94, you seem to like munching on these. |
| 01:34.30 | Cairenn | I'll just poof them all and we can forget that happened |
| 01:36.24 | nohh | are there really people writing good ui addons out there that can't find a job as a developer somewhere? ._. |
| 01:36.59 | Cairenn | nohh: a lot of it is a matter of not being aware of [x] job having come available |
| 01:37.08 | Cairenn | which is why we do post things like that |
| 01:37.39 | Cairenn | The game companies contact us, let us know that they are looking for [x] and we post for them. It's a good thing for eveyrone. |
| 01:37.43 | Cairenn | every* |
| 01:37.56 | nohh | oh I dont have a problem with you posting it, just don't think referring to the job climate makes much sense considering how much demand there is for skilled developers |
| 01:38.17 | nohh | it's not a big deal |
| 01:38.56 | hp94 | lXl: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/Colbert.gif |
| 01:38.57 | nohh | still good to know about it if that happens to be someone's dream job |
| 01:39.11 | lXl | K |
| 01:39.24 | hp94 | lXl: My new desktop background: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/8u3jc/CombatLog_2.jpg |
| 01:40.47 | lXl | http://i.imgur.com/tKfJM.jpg My desktop background. |
| 01:45.13 | Ackis | hey zorba, heads up buddy: http://www.riftui.com/forums/showthread.php?p=291 |
| 01:46.07 | Ackis | goes to his corner before Cairenn puts him there. |
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| 01:46.51 | mckenziemc | lol ackis |
| 01:46.56 | hp94 | Blue screen of death'd =( |
| 01:47.11 | mckenziemc | you joined just now to make that reply? |
| 01:47.23 | mckenziemc | registered* |
| 01:47.39 | Ackis | mckenziemc: I thought I was joined a while ago but I had issues |
| 01:47.48 | Cairenn | hey Ackis? |
| 01:47.52 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 01:48.26 | Ackis | hi *whimpers* |
| 01:48.42 | Cairenn | You know those hugs you weren't getting at BlizzCon? |
| 01:48.52 | Ackis | I'm still not getting them? |
| 01:49.04 | Cairenn | Yup, you're still not getting them. |
| 01:49.15 | Ackis | :( |
| 01:56.32 | fewyn | i'm jelly that you guys are going to blizzcon |
| 01:56.35 | fewyn | i don't get to go this year |
| 01:56.44 | fewyn | makes me sad |
| 01:56.48 | Cairenn | :( |
| 01:57.31 | fewyn | sadly i have more important things to spend ~1000$ on |
| 02:04.14 | Ackis | only $1000? lulz |
| 02:04.29 | Ackis | my total is $2500 so far and haven't counted gas/food |
| 02:11.18 | lXl | http://i.imgur.com/TiydX.png Well here's a rough idea of what I'm thinking for my UI. |
| 02:12.29 | lXl | Might invert the empty/full on the HP to black so it fills on damage, it's a bit easier to read in combat. |
| 02:18.52 | nohh | maybe some visual effect when something like charge is full |
| 02:19.12 | lXl | Like animation? |
| 02:19.20 | nohh | idk |
| 02:19.40 | nohh | doesnt look like you want anything too flashy there |
| 02:20.20 | lXl | Yeah, not really |
| 02:20.42 | nohh | could just linerally from blue->red as charge goes from x -> y (configurable) |
| 02:20.51 | nohh | linearlly* |
| 02:20.58 | nohh | fade* god |
| 02:21.24 | lXl | I have a function for 3 way gradients btw |
| 02:21.31 | lXl | I'll probably do health green>yellow>red |
| 02:26.23 | Ackis | can you leave 50 chat? |
| 02:33.30 | lXl | ./leave # |
| 02:34.05 | lXl | http://i.imgur.com/9jazT.png Maybe have charge flash when it fills, red glow fades in and out faintly with agro |
| 02:34.14 | lXl | But yeah not fancy just.. works. |
| 02:34.19 | Sling | lXl: you could make textures with http://www.colorzilla.com/gradient-editor/ perhaps |
| 02:34.29 | Sling | its a nice tool for using gradients on webpages |
| 02:34.39 | lXl | I have photoshop |
| 02:35.01 | lXl | That's pretty sweet for web though. |
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| 02:35.55 | dolby | nohh not as much demand as you think, specially since many small studios were bought up and shut down |
| 02:36.23 | dolby | SOE laid off a ton of people |
| 02:36.30 | dolby | same with many other larger ones |
| 02:36.38 | Cairenn | And there's all those people who may have never even considered that they could do this as an actual job |
| 02:36.44 | lXl | SOE doesn't like employees working, it costs them money. |
| 02:39.08 | lXl | Cairenn I like your viewport example, is that TKing? |
| 02:39.16 | Cairenn | No |
| 02:39.30 | dolby | she made that |
| 02:39.33 | Cairenn | And, you're joking, right? |
| 02:39.37 | Cairenn | dolby: shush you |
| 02:39.39 | dolby | was her UI on eqinterface |
| 02:39.55 | Cairenn | Hate that I lost all my files for it :( |
| 02:39.58 | lXl | Ah, I was on the mac server we only got what people on the server ported. |
| 02:41.05 | lXl | I like the gauges. |
| 02:41.38 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:41.40 | Cairenn | Thanks |
| 02:41.57 | Cairenn | I don't know if I even remember how I did all of that any more. |
| 02:42.17 | dolby | too bad the only pic is a 256 color gif |
| 02:42.30 | lXl | Grey background, shaded yellow for small tick, then alpha for the blue fill? |
| 02:43.00 | Cairenn | No, it was a lot more convoluted than that |
| 02:43.13 | lXl | Modding anything in EQ was convoluted. |
| 02:43.19 | Cairenn | Well, there's that, too |
| 02:43.38 | Cairenn | although, going back to your first comment, I did help TKing with a lot of his stuff, too |
| 02:43.42 | lXl | Speaking of convoluted and TKing, there was something he did once that I never could figure out, I forget now but it was color gradient. |
| 02:43.50 | Cairenn | There were 3 of us that helped him out all the time, including on his own site |
| 02:44.43 | Cairenn | Tking, remelio, kuvasie and I did a lot of stuff together |
| 02:47.47 | Cairenn | Wishing like hell, now, that I hadn't pulled it down off the site when I stopped doing UI stuff in EQ |
| 02:49.50 | lXl | I can't even find it, I just remember how impressed I was that someone was able to make bars change color on how full they were. |
| 02:49.56 | Cairenn | (my hard drive fried, so all of the individual pieces and layers and filters and ... that I used to make it ... are gone) |
| 02:50.05 | lXl | That sucks. |
| 02:50.14 | Cairenn | lXl: a bunch of us did, mine did too |
| 02:51.14 | lXl | As I said, really the only decent UI we had access to was TKing and, I forget the name it was a much cleaner looking UI. |
| 02:51.27 | lXl | Might be SARS |
| 02:51.27 | Cairenn | probably his celtic |
| 02:51.36 | lXl | Yeah we had Celtic |
| 02:54.18 | lXl | Looking at these SS makes me kind of giggle at the features they put in EQ. |
| 02:54.24 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 02:54.41 | lXl | Gotta go to actions and make a Kick button. |
| 02:56.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:56.47 | lXl | It sucked being a mage and not having the ability to save spell sets. |
| 02:57.16 | dolby | a_snake01 kicks you for 5 points of damage |
| 02:57.21 | lXl | Like.. your fault your pet died I'm not spending downtime rememorizing a bunch of spells. |
| 02:57.41 | lXl | One time I actually found Pain and Suffering in Lavastorm |
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| 03:31.36 | Ackis | 1w |
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| 03:39.59 | nohh | hm tking.. he did UI stuff for Vanguard didnt he |
| 03:40.11 | nohh | trying to remember why that name sounds familiar |
| 03:41.03 | Nobgul-bnc | Didn't he make the orig ui |
| 03:44.18 | lXl | Yeah looks like he was on Vanguard. That sounded familliar. |
| 03:45.03 | lXl | Or maybe not. |
| 03:45.36 | nohh | he did, for a while, parted ways before Vanguard released though |
| 03:45.40 | lXl | Ah. |
| 03:47.00 | lXl | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tking Same person? |
| 03:48.08 | nohh | yes |
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| 05:33.08 | hp94_ | Whats the day AddOns become enabled? |
| 05:33.30 | lXl | When Trion says it happens |
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| 05:49.52 | Myrroddin | allo allo |
| 05:51.56 | Cairenn | hi Myrroddin |
| 05:52.22 | Myrroddin | heya Cairenn! /hugs |
| 05:52.31 | lXl | Hello |
| 05:52.33 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:52.59 | Myrroddin | how are you tonight? |
| 05:53.38 | Cairenn | I'm doing well, yourself? |
| 05:54.02 | Myrroddin | getting tired. i cut my sleep short earlier so i could see green lantern with the guys LOL |
| 05:54.13 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:54.24 | Myrroddin | better than i expected |
| 05:54.35 | Myrroddin | on par with thor, i'd say |
| 05:57.26 | Myrroddin | brb |
| 06:02.12 | Myrroddin | i have returned! |
| 06:02.25 | Cairenn | Welcome back |
| 06:02.32 | Myrroddin | thank you |
| 06:03.15 | Myrroddin | are you playing rift, cairenn? |
| 06:03.27 | Cairenn | Not at this precise moment, no |
| 06:03.47 | Myrroddin | but in general, yes? |
| 06:04.04 | Cairenn | Dabbling a bit |
| 06:04.13 | Myrroddin | guardian or defiant? |
| 06:04.19 | Cairenn | both |
| 06:05.23 | Myrroddin | ah. with the recent world event, are they other dailies still active? i didn't see the corrupted coin daily ... |
| 06:05.29 | Myrroddin | but i heard them falling |
| 06:05.41 | Cairenn | I haven't been on in the last couple days |
| 06:06.24 | Myrroddin | oh, darn |
| 06:06.40 | Cairenn | Sorry |
| 06:07.40 | blueberry | no there isn't any more coin dailies. |
| 06:07.49 | blueberry | but there are new ones from the new event now. |
| 06:10.20 | Myrroddin | i saw the new ones. done some of them |
| 06:10.38 | blueberry | same :) |
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| 15:28.54 | Morv | hi |
| 15:33.09 | hyperChipmunk | good morning |
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| 17:40.41 | Morv | am i right that the alphaclient has neither the Addons enabled nor the instant leveling vendor active at the moment?! |
| 17:40.58 | Myrroddin | you are correct |
| 17:42.13 | Morv | so no testing for me this weekend *pfff* |
| 17:42.41 | Myrroddin | nope |
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| 20:23.10 | hp94 | Hey everyone |
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| 20:32.32 | nicoli_s | hey |
| 20:37.56 | Myrroddin | hello hello |
| 20:38.28 | hp94 | hello goodbye |
| 20:39.20 | Myrroddin | sheesh, i chased out hp94! |
| 20:40.08 | hp94 | Didn't chase me out - I remain present, except with a mask covering half my face, and I play an organ under the stairs. |
| 20:41.53 | Nobgul-bnc | hrmm |
| 20:42.08 | Nobgul-bnc | I am not sure its a organ your playing with uder the stairs |
| 20:42.32 | hp94 | A piano? |
| 20:42.35 | hp94 | Whatever the show was |
| 20:43.08 | Nobgul-bnc | .. you mean the broadway musical? |
| 20:43.27 | hp94 | Whatever, I'm cultured. |
| 20:43.43 | Nobgul-bnc | otay |
| 20:43.59 | Nobgul-bnc | Anyay so nicoli_s, hows everything going |
| 20:46.50 | hp94 | Back to being a pianist *skuttle skuttle* |
| 20:51.18 | Nobgul-bnc | lol |
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| 21:28.02 | nicoli_s | Nobgul-bnc:going well |
| 21:28.14 | nicoli_s | working on a secret work project, huge and awesome, not rift related though |
| 21:28.20 | Nobgul-bnc | hehe |
| 21:28.31 | Nobgul-bnc | sounds like secret fun |
| 21:28.52 | nicoli_s | it is, any time i get to do reversing im happy :) |
| 21:29.07 | nicoli_s | makes me feel like a kid pulling apart some electronics |
| 21:29.54 | Nobgul-bnc | hehe |
| 21:30.08 | Nobgul-bnc | pulling them apart was always fun, putting them back was the chalange |
| 21:30.58 | nicoli_s | thats the beauty of doing it electronically |
| 21:32.05 | nicoli_s | and i love new challenges, dont get that too often with projects these days |
| 21:32.20 | nicoli_s | nobody seems to want to do crazy risky stuff |
| 21:34.22 | Nobgul-bnc | Hrmm |
| 21:34.31 | Nobgul-bnc | Depends on who is paying the bill |
| 21:36.25 | nicoli_s | i was speaking mainly at my business, sites about games/mmos |
| 21:36.44 | Nobgul-bnc | understood |
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| 21:59.43 | lantana | hi new friends |
| 22:05.40 | Myrroddin | greetings (as i alt tab to deal with file approvals) |
| 22:09.27 | Nobgul-bnc | Hello lantana |
| 22:09.45 | Nobgul-bnc | Myrroddin, on curse? |
| 22:10.02 | Myrroddin | yes, i was |
| 22:10.15 | Nobgul-bnc | I ment fial approvals =P |
| 22:10.19 | Nobgul-bnc | file* |
| 22:10.32 | Myrroddin | again, yes i was LOL |
| 22:10.35 | Nobgul-bnc | =P |
| 22:10.57 | Nobgul-bnc | when a addon goes inactive there is no auto delete is there? |
| 22:15.05 | Myrroddin | nope |
| 22:15.28 | Myrroddin | we can flag it deleted, but it stays in the CF/WA system. just removed from curse.com |
| 22:15.37 | Myrroddin | and it has to be reported first |
| 22:31.46 | Nobgul-bnc | ok ty |
| 22:48.53 | Sling | Sharing code should be as simple as possible. ThatÂ’s why we created GitHub for Mac. |
| 22:48.59 | Sling | does that imply mac users are simple :D |
| 22:49.37 | Nobgul-bnc | might be they are saying as apposed to the alternative svn or w/e |
| 22:54.36 | Myrroddin | or maybe it implies windows and linx are more complex than necessary? oO |
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| 23:34.28 | nohh | github for dummies |
