| 10:52:47 | Inertia_JBM | George ;) |
| 10:52:57 | George- | hi jason |
| 10:53:03 | Inertia_JBM | howz it going? |
| 10:53:07 | George- | I'm trying to fix the crummy fb on eTux |
| 10:53:23 | Inertia_JBM | fb? - frame buffer? |
| 10:53:26 | George- | same as yesterday, screwed up :) |
| 10:53:37 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh |
| 10:53:48 | Inertia_JBM | well - I wanted to ask you a couple of things about that... if I may? |
| 10:54:32 | Inertia_JBM | firstly - did you get my emails? |
| 10:56:06 | Inertia_JBM | Ill take the fact that I got a reply as a yes ;) hehe |
| 10:56:13 | Inertia_JBM | sorry hadnt found that - thanks ;) |
| 10:57:21 | Inertia_JBM | I wanted to ask you about the thing you mentioned somewhere on your site - about easy to install using an opl thing.. - may I enquire - this sounds like a *great* idea - something Ive been pondering but have no clue how it would work? |
| 10:57:41 | George- | yea |
| 10:57:55 | George- | um.. |
| 10:57:59 | George- | Neither do I |
| 10:58:03 | George- | That was a thought of mine |
| 10:58:08 | George- | as I can do a *bit* of OPL |
| 10:58:15 | George- | (and I've got a large thick book on OPL) |
| 10:58:16 | George- | heh |
| 10:59:29 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) - well - I think you would probalby want to do it in C.. - but I was wondering if there was some way of using an initrd which sets up a sending and a nifty bit of pc (windows or Linux) software to talk you through copying the files of the fs to the cf - so that if people dont have like cf readers of pcs..? |
| 10:59:36 | Inertia_JBM | what do you think - like a PsiLinux installer |
| 11:00:12 | George- | um... |
| 11:00:32 | George- | Copy tarballs across over a serial link, then untar them onto the cf drive |
| 11:00:43 | George- | and to partition the CF drive, you have a partitioning initrd |
| 11:00:48 | George- | which boots up, loads cfdisk |
| 11:00:51 | George- | then |
| 11:00:54 | George- | quits :) |
| 11:00:55 | Inertia_JBM | which is fine if the cf is at least twice the size of the tarball... |
| 11:01:03 | George- | yea |
| 11:01:05 | George- | I konw |
| 11:01:06 | George- | know |
| 11:01:14 | Inertia_JBM | how about using slip or somethign? |
| 11:01:24 | George- | dunno how it works |
| 11:01:26 | George- | =P |
| 11:01:35 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh - hehe |
| 11:01:41 | George- | listen |
| 11:01:45 | George- | I'm a 14 year old geek |
| 11:01:50 | George- | I don't know everything! :) |
| 11:01:57 | Inertia_JBM | does it matter.? |
| 11:02:20 | George- | does what matter? |
| 11:02:27 | Inertia_JBM | that you dont know everything ;) |
| 11:02:35 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) - anyhow - re the site for your distro - Im guessing you would rather host it yourself? |
| 11:02:52 | George- | yea |
| 11:02:55 | George- | it's easier for me |
| 11:02:57 | George- | (and you) |
| 11:02:57 | George- | :) |
| 11:03:21 | Inertia_JBM | well then - would you mind giving me a bit more of a description for your distro please ;) |
| 11:03:25 | George- | lol |
| 11:03:26 | Inertia_JBM | something alittle more explanitor? |
| 11:03:27 | George- | lmao |
| 11:03:29 | Inertia_JBM | y even ;) |
| 11:03:38 | George- | ok |
| 11:03:48 | George- | something other than "Distro for Series 5" |
| 11:03:49 | George- | ? |
| 11:03:49 | Inertia_JBM | cheers ;) |
| 11:03:53 | George- | um |
| 11:03:58 | Inertia_JBM | well Distro for Series 5 is a good title! |
| 11:04:11 | George- | "The world's greatest pile of crap ever known to man - it's eTux!" |
| 11:04:12 | George- | nah |
| 11:04:30 | George- | I've codenamed eTux 0.1 "Crap" btw :) |
| 11:04:40 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) |
| 11:04:42 | Inertia_JBM | very good.. |
| 11:04:45 | George- | um |
| 11:04:49 | Inertia_JBM | why is it crap btw? |
| 11:04:58 | George- | Because I made it in an hour or so |
| 11:05:06 | George- | and I was experimenting with some stuff |
| 11:05:12 | George- | Not for use by the general public :) |
| 11:05:40 | Inertia_JBM | well keep improving it - it cant be that crap cos there is no series 5 stuff linked and available to the public atm so yours is the only one at this instance |
| 11:05:47 | George- | lol |
| 11:05:49 | George- | i realise that |
| 11:05:51 | George- | heh |
| 11:06:05 | George- | wants andrew kozin to release 2.4 for series 5 |
| 11:06:06 | George- | grrr |
| 11:09:08 | Inertia_JBM | I know the feeling mate ;) |
| 11:09:15 | Inertia_JBM | do you know how he is getting n? |
| 11:10:24 | George- | no |
| 11:10:29 | George- | he's very silent |
| 11:10:42 | George- | he may have bought a 5mx, dumped the 5 and is secretly not developing anymore |
| 11:11:53 | Inertia_JBM | sounds like what I wanna do ;) |
| 11:13:16 | George- | lol |
| 11:13:21 | George- | nah |
| 11:13:24 | George- | don't |
| 11:13:28 | George- | Then it'll be like.. |
| 11:13:30 | George- | just me left |
| 11:13:32 | George- | *boohoo* |
| 11:24:53 | George- | back\ |
| 11:26:50 | Inertia_JBM | ok ;) |
| 11:26:57 | Inertia_JBM | aww.. |
| 11:26:58 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 11:27:15 | George- | bleh |
| 11:27:22 | George- | goes to recompile his kernel in 2bpp mode |
| 11:27:56 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh |
| 11:28:03 | Inertia_JBM | cant you change fb in the kernel? |
| 11:28:11 | Inertia_JBM | whilst running? |
| 11:28:15 | Inertia_JBM | like in the 5mx? |
| 11:28:27 | George- | yes |
| 11:28:30 | George- | but I don't know how |
| 11:28:30 | George- | :) |
| 11:28:37 | George- | And I can't get hold of fbset |
| 11:28:38 | George- | heh |
| 11:29:02 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh! |
| 11:29:03 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 11:29:49 | George- | and anyway |
| 11:29:53 | George- | 4bpp is screwed :) |
| 11:30:35 | George- | this japanese guy compiled his kernel with modules support |
| 11:30:36 | George- | hmm |
| 11:30:46 | George- | one of the only people to do so on Linux7k |
| 11:31:25 | George- | if I win anything in the trolltech competition |
| 11:31:28 | George- | I'm gonna sell it |
| 11:31:33 | George- | and buy a sharp zaurus PDA |
| 11:31:51 | George- | becuz... I already have one of the best laptops on the planet, why do I need another? :) |
| 11:34:14 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 11:34:18 | Inertia_JBM | I have no laptop. |
| 11:34:45 | George- | lol |
| 11:34:47 | George- | I have a couple |
| 11:35:00 | George- | becuz I'm not *meant* to screw about with my dad's machine :) |
| 11:37:42 | George- | woohoo! |
| 11:37:46 | George- | 2bpp works great! |
| 11:44:21 | George- | hey |
| 11:44:23 | George- | are you alive? |
| 11:47:07 | Inertia_JBM | I am - sorry mate. |
| 11:47:24 | Inertia_JBM | 2bpp has always worked reliably - the 4bpp is the difficultly |
| 11:47:29 | Inertia_JBM | sorry mate :"( |
| 11:47:55 | Inertia_JBM | does your current system work with bash btw? |
| 11:48:07 | Inertia_JBM | or are you using busybox? |
| 11:48:11 | Inertia_JBM | George - you there?!? |
| 11:48:45 | Inertia_JBM | btw - another question - are you on messenger? |
| 11:51:21 | George- | back |
| 11:51:25 | George- | bash |
| 11:51:27 | George- | it's debian |
| 11:51:41 | George- | msn messenger? |
| 11:51:48 | George- | I have _a_ hotmail account |
| 11:51:57 | George- | but I can't remember the username or anything |
| 11:54:21 | George- | i'm about to upload my first screenie! |
| 11:55:55 | Inertia_JBM | ahh right :) |
| 11:55:58 | Inertia_JBM | hehe :) |
| 11:56:07 | Inertia_JBM | ooh - go for it - to the PsiLinux site? |
| 11:56:15 | George- | um |
| 11:56:17 | George- | eTux |
| 11:56:24 | Inertia_JBM | and the PsiLinux site?! ;) |
| 11:56:25 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 11:56:30 | George- | where do I put it? |
| 11:56:36 | Inertia_JBM | go to the upload page ;) |
| 11:56:39 | Inertia_JBM | does it all for you mate! |
| 11:57:15 | George- | how do I erm |
| 11:57:17 | George- | make a bloody screenshot? |
| 11:57:57 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) |
| 11:58:00 | Inertia_JBM | now - thats difficult. |
| 11:58:17 | Inertia_JBM | try uploading one to errrm screenshots.tader.net - I *think* hes found some way |
| 11:58:26 | Inertia_JBM | and then you could save the file out and dump it on your site. |
| 11:58:37 | Inertia_JBM | takes a look nehow - he had *some* way of doing it |
| 11:59:06 | George- | something like cat /dev/fb0 > blah.screenie |
| 11:59:09 | George- | or whatever |
| 11:59:25 | Inertia_JBM | btw - I meant to ask you - your installation on the series 5 has login an all? |
| 11:59:46 | Inertia_JBM | George - sounds vaguely right |
| 12:00:40 | George- | yea |
| 12:00:56 | George- | i've just realised I don't have a /etc/fstab!!!! |
| 12:00:58 | George- | blarfg! |
| 12:01:04 | Inertia_JBM | hmm |
| 12:01:10 | George- | that'll be what all the hda errors are :) |
| 12:01:14 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh! |
| 12:01:15 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 12:01:30 | Inertia_JBM | so this is a booting debian system which is about 12mb and supports login and all? |
| 12:01:31 | Inertia_JBM | wow!! |
| 12:01:40 | George- | about 12mb? |
| 12:01:41 | George- | now ay |
| 12:01:45 | George- | 13MB compressed |
| 12:01:47 | George- | about er.. |
| 12:01:48 | George- | 30MB |
| 12:01:52 | George- | i think |
| 12:01:59 | Inertia_JBM | well 30 is fine |
| 12:02:12 | George- | it's seriously fucked though |
| 12:02:15 | Inertia_JBM | but I have to say - that is better than anything Ive ever seen for the 5 before.. |
| 12:02:21 | George- | So I'm gonna sort it out :) |
| 12:02:25 | George- | heh |
| 12:02:32 | Inertia_JBM | did you find the PsiLinux upload script btw? |
| 12:02:38 | George- | haven't looked for it |
| 12:02:45 | George- | still trying to make the screenie |
| 12:02:48 | George- | (and eating lunch) |
| 12:03:21 | George- | my poor 3c... |
| 12:03:28 | George- | With it's smashed up screen |
| 12:03:46 | George- | I was hoping to get that running linux someday |
| 12:05:09 | George- | http://screenshots.tader.net/image.php?image=20020306184640-80.131.250.195.png&page=1 |
| 12:05:13 | George- | gnome on a mx pro |
| 12:05:14 | George- | lol |
| 12:06:45 | Inertia_JBM | george... |
| 12:06:51 | George- | yea? |
| 12:07:00 | Inertia_JBM | http://linux-7110.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/upload.cgi |
| 12:07:17 | George- | I haven't made the screenshot yet! |
| 12:07:22 | George- | I've gotta get my fstab working |
| 12:07:23 | George- | or else |
| 12:07:26 | George- | everything is screwed |
| 12:08:34 | Inertia_JBM | yeah - thats fine no problem.. |
| 12:08:45 | Inertia_JBM | I was just wanting to point you in the right direction.. |
| 12:09:17 | Inertia_JBM | my aim in PsiLinux is to get it well documented and well listed - otherwise what you guys do goes a little to pot - so if I have to pester a little then so be it. |
| 12:09:37 | George- | lol |
| 12:09:42 | George- | This hopefully won't |
| 12:09:45 | Inertia_JBM | btw - Im working on getting some propper artwork done for Arlo.. |
| 12:09:49 | George- | I've got an entire sourceforge thing for it :) |
| 12:10:26 | Inertia_JBM | still - it needs to be linked to the PsiLinux project - which is the bit suffering a little publicity atm |
| 12:10:36 | George- | lol |
| 12:10:36 | George- | ok |
| 12:10:42 | George- | Link it if you want :) |
| 12:10:52 | George- | I'll just be announcing it on the linux7k ml |
| 12:10:53 | George- | heh |
| 12:10:54 | Inertia_JBM | dont worry - I have the greater image of the whole project in mind ;) |
| 12:11:03 | George- | lol |
| 12:11:13 | George- | I've been with the project 4 years, and I've done *nothing* |
| 12:11:14 | George- | heh |
| 12:11:18 | George- | I feel I need to do something |
| 12:11:24 | George- | so I'm making a *proper* distro |
| 12:11:29 | Inertia_JBM | yeah - go for it mate ;) |
| 12:11:30 | George- | not one of those stupid initrds |
| 12:11:30 | George- | :) |
| 12:11:49 | Inertia_JBM | I fel that I was able to offer more by getting the site looking pro - and I think Im managing it slowly |
| 12:11:58 | George- | lol |
| 12:12:14 | George- | my attempts at a pro website: http://intranet.harrowschool.org.uk/houses/Newlands |
| 12:12:24 | George- | my house's (school) website |
| 12:13:23 | George- | heh |
| 12:13:25 | George- | it's not working |
| 12:14:01 | Inertia_JBM | true true |
| 12:14:07 | Inertia_JBM | oh well |
| 12:14:11 | George- | it's basically my attempt |
| 12:14:13 | George- | at a proper website |
| 12:14:15 | George- | in HTML |
| 12:14:18 | George- | it's *ok* |
| 12:14:24 | George- | better than the crap that was there before |
| 12:14:25 | George- | lol |
| 12:14:28 | George- | I'm no web designer |
| 12:14:33 | George- | so I'm rather proud of that :) |
| 12:14:37 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) = does take a while to get to know what feels ok - Ive churned out some real crap before now |
| 12:15:12 | Inertia_JBM | btw - you didnt respond before.. but what do you think to something like, possibly an embroidered PsiLinux cap or summut? |
| 12:15:28 | Inertia_JBM | I know its probably a stupid idea - but Im working on a project image here |
| 12:15:37 | George- | image? |
| 12:17:21 | Inertia_JBM | well - so far the whole PsiLinux thing has been quite fragmented ... but I tend to find if people have something to work for, or work behind - then they work better... |
| 12:17:46 | Inertia_JBM | this is why company images work well in some cases..... - the site has certainly had a positive effect and so has our little Tux friend... |
| 12:17:58 | Inertia_JBM | how much did you miss there? |
| 12:18:03 | george_ | disconnected |
| 12:18:15 | George- | dunno |
| 12:18:17 | George- | quite a bit |
| 12:18:23 | Inertia_JBM | well - so far the whole PsiLinux thing has been quite fragmented ... but I tend to find if people have something to work for, or work behind - then they work better... |
| 12:18:28 | Inertia_JBM | then I said |
| 12:18:35 | Inertia_JBM | this is why company images work well in some cases..... - the site has certainly had a positive effect and so has our little Tux friend... |
| 12:18:53 | George- | heh |
| 12:18:55 | Inertia_JBM | and I was just pondering about the PsiLinux tux - case stickers or caps or summut. |
| 12:19:02 | Inertia_JBM | only really playing with the idea atm but |
| 12:19:08 | George- | NO case stickers |
| 12:19:10 | George- | EVER |
| 12:19:11 | George- | :) |
| 12:19:13 | Inertia_JBM | oh? |
| 12:19:23 | Inertia_JBM | not like the little EPOC one you had for the Psion? |
| 12:19:25 | George- | I don't like case stickers |
| 12:19:28 | George- | heh |
| 12:19:30 | George- | I removed it |
| 12:19:31 | George- | :) |
| 12:19:39 | Inertia_JBM | well - I changed my entire case - but still! |
| 12:19:41 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 12:19:46 | George- | i always remove rscking case stickers |
| 12:19:52 | George- | you did? |
| 12:19:53 | George- | hmm |
| 12:20:00 | George- | I got my rubber recoated 3 times |
| 12:20:00 | George- | lol |
| 12:20:01 | Inertia_JBM | hehe - yeah - I have a silvery blue one atm |
| 12:20:21 | Inertia_JBM | so then - caps? |
| 12:20:28 | George- | yea! |
| 12:20:34 | Inertia_JBM | youd buy one then? |
| 12:20:43 | George- | if I had money :) |
| 12:21:24 | George- | y'know it's borises birthday today! |
| 12:21:26 | George- | He's 21 |
| 12:21:37 | George- | hence the topic |
| 12:21:44 | Inertia_JBM | yeah - I noticed ;) |
| 12:21:55 | Inertia_JBM | I havent seen him all day though. |
| 12:22:03 | George- | prolly out clubbing :) |
| 12:22:11 | Inertia_JBM | hehe! |
| 12:22:17 | George- | btw - what country are you in? |
| 12:22:24 | Inertia_JBM | England - you? |
| 12:22:32 | George- | same |
| 12:22:33 | George- | heh |
| 12:22:41 | Inertia_JBM | place? - Harrogate? |
| 12:22:48 | George- | no |
| 12:22:49 | George- | london |
| 12:22:58 | Inertia_JBM | ahh right - fair enough ;) hehe |
| 12:23:03 | George- | heh |
| 12:23:09 | Inertia_JBM | Chester and Cambridge |
| 12:23:11 | George- | but most of the time I'm at school |
| 12:23:13 | George- | in Harrow |
| 12:23:49 | George- | aha |
| 12:23:53 | George- | screenshot HERE I COME! |
| 12:25:31 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) |
| 12:25:38 | Inertia_JBM | you got fstab to work? |
| 12:25:42 | George- | yea |
| 12:25:46 | George- | that's all working great now |
| 12:25:48 | George- | but erm.. |
| 12:25:56 | George- | I can't work out how to open the screenshot |
| 12:25:57 | George- | lol |
| 12:27:21 | Inertia_JBM | hmm |
| 12:27:37 | Inertia_JBM | open in a text file? |
| 12:27:43 | Inertia_JBM | maybe you need something which converts it? |
| 12:38:16 | Inertia_JBM | george? |
| 12:38:20 | George- | yes |
| 12:38:26 | George- | I'm trying to get it to work |
| 12:38:33 | George- | I don't think it wants to read a 2bpp file |
| 12:41:12 | George- | ok |
| 12:41:14 | George- | I GIVE UP!! |
| 12:41:15 | George- | boohooo |
| 12:43:03 | George- | http://bbs1.otd.co.jp/linux7k/bbs_plain |
| 12:43:15 | George- | check that out :) |
| 12:43:19 | George- | a japanese linux7k mailing list |
| 12:43:20 | George- | lol |
| 12:49:28 | George- | oiy! |
| 12:49:32 | George- | heh |
| 12:49:37 | George- | jason: ping |
| 13:00:38 | George- | um |
| 13:00:42 | George- | Hello? |
| 13:17:05 | George- | wb |
| 13:17:09 | Inertia_JBM | sorry about that mate |
| 13:17:12 | Inertia_JBM | how youd doing/ |
| 13:17:13 | George- | heh |
| 13:17:14 | George- | fine |
| 13:17:17 | George- | Compiling the kernel now |
| 13:17:18 | George- | :) |
| 13:17:21 | George- | Gotta erm |
| 13:17:28 | George- | I'm compiling it with modules :) |
| 13:31:09 | Inertia_JBM | what exactly does that mean? - I ask as I only started using linux at christmas! |
| 13:32:30 | George- | n/m |
| 13:32:31 | George- | heh |
| 13:34:48 | Inertia_JBM | please ;) - Im tyring to learn ... |
| 13:35:20 | George- | erm... |
| 13:35:28 | George- | basically the kernel can be compiled in two ways |
| 13:35:36 | George- | as a monolithic kerenl |
| 13:35:49 | George- | where everything that the kernel needs is in one file, making the kernel huge |
| 13:35:53 | George- | or as a modular kerenl |
| 13:36:03 | George- | where all the basic stuff is in the one file |
| 13:36:16 | George- | but any extra stuff that the kernel *might* need |
| 13:36:22 | George- | but doesn't *necessarily* need |
| 13:36:34 | George- | are in lots of different files called modules |
| 13:36:40 | George- | so for vfat support, for example |
| 13:36:45 | George- | if you compile that as a module |
| 13:36:50 | George- | it would be called vfat.o |
| 13:36:53 | George- | or something |
| 13:36:58 | Inertia_JBM | right |
| 13:37:01 | George- | and because the kernel is not huge |
| 13:37:06 | George- | and not all of it is in the RAM |
| 13:37:17 | George- | it saves RAM (very important on an embedded system) |
| 13:37:22 | Inertia_JBM | true true |
| 13:37:22 | George- | all systems normally use modules |
| 13:37:27 | George- | but for some reason |
| 13:37:39 | George- | none of the linux7k developers use a modular kernel |
| 13:37:45 | Inertia_JBM | fair enough |
| 13:37:47 | George- | which sucks |
| 13:38:03 | Inertia_JBM | hmmm - sounds logical.. |
| 13:38:13 | George- | but I gave it up |
| 13:38:20 | Inertia_JBM | you trying it now? |
| 13:38:21 | George- | cos it didn't seem to want to compile :) |
| 13:38:25 | George- | I tried |
| 13:38:26 | George- | and it failed |
| 13:38:29 | Inertia_JBM | ahh - d'oh |
| 13:38:33 | George- | I might go into it a bit more later |
| 13:38:40 | Inertia_JBM | oh well - for the time being I guess we can survive without it |
| 13:38:51 | George- | lol |
| 13:38:57 | George- | I'm gonna try and get microwindows to work! :) |
| 13:38:57 | Inertia_JBM | when are you going to post your new working stuff then? |
| 13:39:05 | George- | I'm still developing |
| 13:39:05 | Inertia_JBM | Try pico gui? |
| 13:39:09 | George- | trying to get 4bpp fb going |
| 13:39:12 | George- | nah |
| 13:39:14 | Inertia_JBM | keep going.. |
| 13:39:16 | George- | microwindows is more advanced |
| 13:39:30 | Inertia_JBM | k |
| 13:39:44 | Inertia_JBM | if you get to a decent point - Ill try it on my Psion tonight if you want ;) |
| 13:41:33 | George- | lol |
| 13:41:34 | George- | ok |
| 13:41:34 | George- | :) |
| 13:42:37 | George- | i doubt it |
| 13:42:38 | George- | but hey |
| 13:42:42 | George- | might as well try ;) |
| 13:42:53 | George- | i'll start work on a CF partitioner |
| 13:42:53 | George- | :) |
| 13:43:07 | George- | based on Klaasjan van Druten's initrds3.gz |
| 13:43:08 | George- | =P |
| 13:45:19 | Inertia_JBM | fair enough.. - thats what I currently use for my psion and then I dump something on my cf and from there on I boot the cf. |
| 13:45:36 | George- | initrds3.gz? |
| 13:45:38 | George- | You use that? |
| 13:45:39 | Inertia_JBM | surely - you can have a working kernel and fs 2night |
| 13:45:40 | George- | LOL |
| 13:45:43 | George- | That's old |
| 13:45:43 | Inertia_JBM | I do - howcome? |
| 13:45:49 | George- | :) |
| 13:45:53 | George- | It's the best initrd thous |
| 13:45:56 | George- | *though |
| 13:45:58 | Inertia_JBM | thats the only initrd publicly available. |
| 13:46:03 | George- | nah |
| 13:46:06 | George- | there's werners |
| 13:46:11 | George- | and Alex Holden's flatcap |
| 13:46:11 | Inertia_JBM | hmm |
| 13:46:14 | George- | but that's about it |
| 13:46:18 | Inertia_JBM | Flatcap? whats that? |
| 13:46:39 | George- | the first EVER psilinux distro |
| 13:46:43 | George- | wasn't very good though |
| 13:46:51 | George- | it was made before there was CF support for the s5 |
| 13:46:51 | Inertia_JBM | ahh right - didnt even remember it existse |
| 13:47:07 | Inertia_JBM | so then - does your kernel still have sleep problems? |
| 13:47:14 | George- | uhhhh,..,. |
| 13:47:15 | George- | no |
| 13:47:18 | Inertia_JBM | oh? |
| 13:47:20 | George- | None of them do |
| 13:47:23 | Inertia_JBM | oh! |
| 13:47:26 | George- | I've never had sleep problems |
| 13:47:29 | George- | NEVER |
| 13:47:30 | George- | lol |
| 13:47:35 | George- | I dunno why people do :) |
| 13:47:43 | Inertia_JBM | I have ide sync problems whenever I go out of sleep |
| 13:47:43 | George- | I've managed to sleep the machine, take the cf out |
| 13:47:47 | Inertia_JBM | and my cf never works |
| 13:47:50 | George- | lol |
| 13:47:52 | George- | Mine does :) |
| 13:47:57 | George- | I've managed to sleep the machine, take the cf out |
| 13:48:01 | Inertia_JBM | I want to try this kernel... |
| 13:48:02 | George- | then turn it on with cf |
| 13:48:06 | George- | and turn it off |
| 13:48:08 | George- | then plug in cf |
| 13:48:13 | George- | and it still works perfectly |
| 13:48:14 | George- | lol |
| 13:48:18 | Inertia_JBM | fair enough |
| 13:48:28 | George- | Is that a good enough test? :) |
| 13:48:35 | Inertia_JBM | thats a quality test. |
| 13:48:43 | George- | what kernel do you use? |
| 13:48:44 | Inertia_JBM | howz about dropping in a new cf ;) hehe!! |
| 13:48:53 | George- | that would NOT work :) |
| 13:48:56 | Inertia_JBM | errrm - one of werners I think ;) |
| 13:48:59 | Inertia_JBM | I know - just winding! |
| 13:49:02 | George- | ahhh |
| 13:49:05 | Inertia_JBM | oh? |
| 13:49:06 | George- | What S5 do you have? |
| 13:49:14 | Inertia_JBM | not sure - want me to check? |
| 13:49:18 | George- | what ROM version |
| 13:49:21 | George- | check in EPOC |
| 13:49:39 | George- | menu -> information -> about series 5 |
| 13:49:44 | George- | it tells you the rom version |
| 13:49:49 | George- | you either have 1.01(145) |
| 13:49:51 | George- | or 1.00 |
| 13:50:05 | Inertia_JBM | 1.01(145) |
| 13:50:10 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 13:50:22 | George- | hmm |
| 13:50:30 | George- | and you don't have a problem with werner's kernel? |
| 13:50:32 | George- | that's odd |
| 13:50:55 | Inertia_JBM | well.. |
| 13:50:55 | George- | werner's kernels were CRAP on that revision of the s5 |
| 13:51:02 | George- | the memory banks were different |
| 13:51:03 | Inertia_JBM | hmm - I *think* its werners.. |
| 13:51:10 | George- | so it couldn't load initrds over 512KB |
| 13:51:17 | George- | but Klaasjan's initrd is > 1MB |
| 13:51:22 | George- | and you don't have a problem with it |
| 13:51:25 | George- | that's VERY odd |
| 13:51:31 | Inertia_JBM | yeah - maybe it wasnt werners? but I thouht it was |
| 13:51:41 | George- | hang on |
| 13:51:44 | George- | testing eTux |
| 13:51:44 | George- | lol |
| 13:54:30 | Inertia_JBM | working? |
| 13:54:34 | George- | yea |
| 13:54:38 | Inertia_JBM | this is good ;) |
| 13:54:39 | George- | can't get a 4bpp fb though |
| 13:54:43 | George- | hang on |
| 13:54:43 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh |
| 13:54:44 | George- | cf test |
| 13:54:45 | George- | heh |
| 13:54:48 | Inertia_JBM | hehe! |
| 13:55:09 | George- | yea |
| 13:55:14 | George- | my cf has no problems :) |
| 13:55:17 | Inertia_JBM | work? |
| 13:55:20 | Inertia_JBM | fair enough |
| 13:55:28 | Inertia_JBM | so then - what is on that system? |
| 13:55:29 | George- | perhaps it's just the make of my CF that's better than everyone elses =P |
| 13:55:32 | George- | um.. |
| 13:55:36 | Inertia_JBM | could be... |
| 13:55:38 | George- | 429 commands |
| 13:55:41 | George- | lol |
| 13:55:47 | George- | fbset, vi |
| 13:55:48 | George- | etc |
| 13:55:49 | Inertia_JBM | well - ok - do you have zmodem? |
| 13:55:58 | George- | no |
| 13:55:59 | George- | heh |
| 13:56:03 | Inertia_JBM | please install it.. |
| 13:56:06 | George- | it's only a base sytem |
| 13:56:06 | George- | :) |
| 13:56:13 | George- | no major apps installs |
| 13:56:19 | Inertia_JBM | so as its deb - does it support debian installs? |
| 13:56:27 | George- | AE!!! |
| 13:56:31 | George- | um.,. i dunno |
| 13:56:31 | Inertia_JBM | AE?! |
| 13:56:32 | George- | :) |
| 13:56:35 | George- | ae |
| 13:56:43 | George- | a nice dinky little editor :) |
| 13:56:47 | Inertia_JBM | ahh! |
| 13:56:52 | George- | a bit like a _very_ small emacs |
| 13:56:56 | Inertia_JBM | ahh |
| 13:57:05 | George- | heh |
| 13:57:07 | George- | when you boot up |
| 13:57:09 | George- | it er, |
| 13:57:15 | George- | loads up my configuration screen :) |
| 13:57:19 | Inertia_JBM | ...? |
| 13:57:22 | George- | "Welcome to eTux" |
| 13:57:24 | George- | blah blah blah |
| 13:57:30 | George- | "Set your hostname now: " |
| 13:57:35 | George- | "Enter root password" |
| 13:57:36 | Inertia_JBM | nice ;) good one mate ;) hehe |
| 13:57:36 | George- | blah |
| 13:57:37 | George- | :) |
| 13:57:42 | George- | heh |
| 13:57:48 | George- | shit |
| 13:57:48 | Inertia_JBM | right - does it support arm compiled .deb files? |
| 13:57:50 | Inertia_JBM | try it? |
| 13:57:53 | Inertia_JBM | shit!?!?!? |
| 13:57:56 | George- | Psion: hda: lost interrupt |
| 13:58:06 | Inertia_JBM | ha! hehe - d'oh thats never good |
| 13:58:28 | George- | ok |
| 13:58:30 | George- | sync is screwed |
| 13:58:35 | George- | EVERYTHING IS SCREWED!!! |
| 13:58:41 | George- | um |
| 13:58:46 | George- | If you wanna shut the machine down |
| 13:58:48 | Inertia_JBM | but it worked before?! |
| 13:58:49 | George- | you type in halt |
| 13:58:55 | George- | Inertia_JBM: Dunno |
| 13:58:56 | Inertia_JBM | and that actually causes it to reboot? |
| 13:59:00 | George- | Inertia_JBM: It worked for about 5 minutes |
| 13:59:00 | George- | lol |
| 13:59:03 | George- | no |
| 13:59:07 | George- | It shuts it down\ |
| 13:59:12 | George- | so that linux is safe to reboot |
| 13:59:18 | George- | "reboot" does the same thing |
| 13:59:22 | George- | it shuts it down |
| 13:59:24 | Inertia_JBM | George - any way of causing it to reboot without taking out the bats? |
| 13:59:25 | George- | but can't reboot it :) |
| 13:59:36 | George- | Inertia_JBM: press the reset button perhaps? :) |
| 13:59:50 | Inertia_JBM | that never worked with what I was using.. hmm |
| 13:59:54 | George- | huh? |
| 14:00:00 | George- | press the reset button |
| 14:00:03 | George- | open up the machine |
| 14:00:11 | George- | then press both shift keys and the on button |
| 14:00:11 | George- | heh |
| 14:00:17 | George- | (at the same time) |
| 14:00:19 | Inertia_JBM | naah - I had to take out the batteries - reset screwed the machine when I was using it |
| 14:00:22 | George- | it's all documented in my howto |
| 14:00:26 | Inertia_JBM | nifty ;) |
| 14:00:41 | George- | ide0: reset: success |
| 14:00:47 | George- | HAHA! |
| 14:00:49 | George- | It's working again |
| 14:00:50 | Inertia_JBM | so what? |
| 14:00:52 | George- | without a reboot :) |
| 14:00:54 | Inertia_JBM | how did you do that? |
| 14:00:56 | George- | dujnno |
| 14:01:00 | George- | it just did it :) |
| 14:01:14 | Inertia_JBM | presumably your os is running off the cf? |
| 14:01:19 | George- | yep |
| 14:01:40 | George- | hah |
| 14:01:43 | George- | lost interrupt again |
| 14:01:45 | George- | *lol* |
| 14:01:54 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh |
| 14:01:59 | Inertia_JBM | that doesnt sound *reliable*? |
| 14:02:08 | George- | it's a kernel issue |
| 14:02:09 | George- | not me |
| 14:02:10 | George- | =P |
| 14:02:13 | Inertia_JBM | did you put the cf together on a cf reader for the pc? |
| 14:02:17 | George- | yes |
| 14:02:18 | Inertia_JBM | George - still - not good |
| 14:02:23 | Inertia_JBM | what causes it to do that? |
| 14:02:29 | George- | me taking the cf out |
| 14:02:30 | George- | lol |
| 14:02:40 | Inertia_JBM | but its fine if you dont take the cf out? |
| 14:02:48 | George- | it's like taking the hard disk out of a computer while it's still running |
| 14:02:49 | George- | ! |
| 14:02:50 | George- | !!! |
| 14:02:54 | Inertia_JBM | true true |
| 14:03:05 | Inertia_JBM | but the cf works fine the rest of the time?!?! even with sleep? |
| 14:03:06 | George- | yes |
| 14:03:08 | George- | it's fine |
| 14:03:12 | Inertia_JBM | glad to hear it :) |
| 14:03:13 | George- | yes |
| 14:03:31 | Inertia_JBM | oh how i want a cf reader. |
| 14:03:44 | George- | don't you want one? |
| 14:03:52 | Inertia_JBM | I do want one. |
| 14:03:53 | George- | you prolly won't be able to install eTux then |
| 14:03:59 | George- | erm.. |
| 14:04:03 | George- | Don't you *have* one? |
| 14:04:03 | Inertia_JBM | hehe :) |
| 14:04:08 | Inertia_JBM | hah! |
| 14:04:30 | Inertia_JBM | dont worry - Ive sussed out how to install stuff without one - it takes a while and is a little annoying but hey! I can do it |
| 14:05:15 | George- | ok |
| 14:05:20 | George- | fbdev seems to be screwed |
| 14:05:22 | George- | I duno |
| 14:05:27 | George- | so |
| 14:05:34 | George- | Right now onto the installation of microwindows |
| 14:05:40 | George- | oh er... |
| 14:05:44 | George- | Where's justin davies |
| 14:06:00 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 14:06:12 | Inertia_JBM | whats fbdev? |
| 14:06:35 | George- | oh |
| 14:06:37 | George- | fbset :) |
| 14:06:39 | George- | typo |
| 14:06:46 | George- | fbdev is the name of the kernel framebuffer driver |
| 14:06:47 | George- | lol |
| 14:06:56 | Inertia_JBM | ahh right |
| 14:06:58 | George- | fbset is the utility to change the colour depth or whatever on the fly |
| 14:07:11 | Inertia_JBM | so - fbset not working at all? or just 4bpp not working? |
| 14:07:34 | Inertia_JBM | btw - does bpp mean bits per pixel? |
| 14:07:35 | George- | it's fbset |
| 14:07:37 | George- | yes |
| 14:07:45 | George- | 4bpp *should* work |
| 14:07:56 | George- | I have stanson's (aka Andrew Kozik) patch |
| 14:08:25 | Inertia_JBM | but youve not managed to try 4bpp? cos fbset dont work right? |
| 14:08:35 | George- | yea |
| 14:08:38 | George- | I'll email the list |
| 14:08:45 | George- | although I don't expect to get an answer :) |
| 14:09:19 | Inertia_JBM | hehe - true true - they arent very responsive to much are they - you can see why I have so much of a problem with getting the Site on track! |
| 14:09:59 | George- | they talk about the 5mx |
| 14:10:05 | George- | never anything about the poor old 5 |
| 14:10:09 | George- | Which used to be top dog! |
| 14:11:48 | Inertia_JBM | mine still looks kewler than any 5mx Ive ever seen! |
| 14:12:38 | George- | http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~bg3k-ysd/psion/images/microwindows.gif |
| 14:14:07 | Inertia_JBM | hmmmm |
| 14:14:20 | Inertia_JBM | well if we can get it working I guess |
| 14:31:07 | George- | blah |
| 14:31:51 | George- | woohoo |
| 14:31:52 | George- | proc |
| 14:31:55 | George- | filesystem |
| 14:31:57 | George- | works!!! |
| 14:39:35 | Inertia_JBM | it does? |
| 14:39:38 | Inertia_JBM | wow :) |
| 14:39:40 | Inertia_JBM | impressed.! |
| 14:40:52 | George- | ;) |
| 14:41:00 | George- | that was easy though |
| 14:41:01 | George- | heh |
| 14:41:05 | George- | I just need to get |
| 14:41:45 | Inertia_JBM | so what exactly did you just fix? |
| 14:42:07 | George- | nothing |
| 14:42:10 | George- | I've just emailed the list |
| 14:42:12 | George- | but that's all |
| 14:42:55 | Inertia_JBM | so what are the current known problems then? |
| 14:43:38 | George- | um... |
| 14:43:46 | George- | dunno :) |
| 14:43:52 | George- | oh yea |
| 14:43:53 | George- | fbset |
| 14:43:56 | George- | (of course!) |
| 14:44:05 | Inertia_JBM | and then naturally 4bpp? |
| 14:44:07 | George- | the hda thing should hopefully be fixed by now |
| 14:44:10 | George- | heh |
| 14:44:15 | Inertia_JBM | what was the problem there? |
| 14:45:32 | George- | it's not |
| 14:45:39 | George- | it's now naturally |
| 14:45:39 | George- | 1bpp :) |
| 14:45:42 | George- | mono |
| 14:48:13 | Inertia_JBM | but 2bpp works? |
| 14:48:40 | Inertia_JBM | but fbset doesnt work so you cant change to 2bpp right? |
| 14:51:32 | George- | no |
| 14:51:35 | George- | Nothing works |
| 14:51:44 | George- | I'm running on Stanson's patch now |
| 14:51:51 | George- | not the japanese dudes :) |
| 14:52:58 | George- | gtg |
| 16:12:42 | George- | hi Inertia_JBM |
| 16:18:47 | George- | OIY! JASON! |
| 16:18:50 | George- | Wake up! |
| 16:29:26 | George- | argh |
| 16:29:32 | George- | bitch! |
| 18:11:36 | george_ | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eric.rsoc/George/april.html |
| 18:11:38 | george_ | moooohahaha |
| 18:17:44 | George- | heh |
| 18:17:44 | George- | ok |
| 18:17:45 | George- | done |
| 18:17:48 | George- | wharg |
| 18:39:47 | Inertia_JBM | George - ok? |
| 18:40:07 | George- | hmm? |
| 18:40:25 | Inertia_JBM | you ok? |
| 18:40:32 | George- | ??? |
| 18:40:33 | George- | yea |
| 18:40:35 | George- | lol |
| 18:41:16 | Inertia_JBM | howz the system going |
| 18:41:25 | George- | heh |
| 18:41:30 | George- | haven't done anything on it |
| 18:41:31 | George- | :) |
| 18:45:32 | Inertia_JBM | did you update the version on your website? |
| 18:45:54 | Inertia_JBM | or is it still the old version? |
| 18:46:54 | Inertia_JBM | brb... |
| 19:00:46 | Inertia_JBM | heya again |
| 19:00:51 | | hi, Inertia_JBM |
| 19:00:51 | Inertia_JBM | ibot hi |
| 19:00:54 | George- | wb |
| 19:00:56 | George- | lol |
| 19:01:05 | George- | the eTux is still old |
| 19:01:08 | George- | I'm on 56k |
| 19:01:18 | George- | it takes too long for me to upload just for a few changes |
| 19:01:25 | George- | i'll prolly setup the CVS repos soon |
| 19:01:36 | Inertia_JBM | hehe ;) - well I would love to try the current system... ;) |
| 19:01:53 | George- | heh |
| 19:02:04 | George- | What do you think of the website design? |
| 19:02:12 | George- | (Considering I'm a total craphead at web design) |
| 19:03:00 | Inertia_JBM | well... - how harsh do you want to be? |
| 19:04:28 | Inertia_JBM | this is speaking harshly ... but - the Psion looks very unprofessional - it looks like you are trying to be pro if you get me .. |
| 19:04:35 | Inertia_JBM | the main layout is good - its functional... |
| 19:05:06 | Inertia_JBM | its let down by the eTux logo - you have tux in the name - you should at least have some sort of penguin on there |
| 19:08:20 | George- | lol |
| 19:08:25 | George- | :) |
| 19:08:28 | George- | shut up =P |
| 19:10:44 | Inertia_JBM | dont worry mate - its fine - it gets the info across -which is what you wanted no? |
| 19:10:58 | Inertia_JBM | it does that well - it could just look *nicer* - it looks fine - just not pro |
| 19:11:21 | Inertia_JBM | dont worry. |
| 19:11:39 | Inertia_JBM | so then - how long till you get a slightly more up todate version around? |
| 19:11:52 | George- | lol |
| 19:12:00 | George- | a few days |
| 19:12:01 | George- | probably |
| 19:12:05 | George- | use the one there are the moment |
| 19:12:10 | George- | lazy sod! :) |
| 20:01:07 | Inertia_JBM | bub :"( |
| 20:01:20 | Inertia_JBM | thats never good. |
| 20:01:59 | George- | :) |
| 20:07:46 | Inertia_JBM | go on - you know you want to upload the current version ;) |
| 20:07:53 | George- | ON 56k? |
| 20:08:08 | Inertia_JBM | im willing and Im on 32! |
| 20:12:32 | George- | back |
| 20:19:56 | Inertia_JBM | glad to hear it |
| 20:19:59 | Inertia_JBM | what happened? |
| 20:20:15 | George- | diconnected |
| 20:22:31 | Inertia_JBM | d'oh |
| 20:22:37 | Inertia_JBM | so then - I havent convinced you to upload it? |
| 20:23:26 | George- | no |
| 20:25:18 | Inertia_JBM | bub :"9 |
| 20:25:21 | Inertia_JBM | Ill sulk. |
| 20:25:39 | George- | gah ok |
| 20:25:43 | George- | You've got me at last |
| 20:25:58 | Inertia_JBM | awww.. - fanks ;) |
| 20:26:29 | George- | ;) |
| 20:26:31 | George- | np |
| 20:26:33 | George- | lol |
| 20:26:44 | George- | I'm just gonna be lagged for approx 2 hours now |
| 20:26:44 | George- | lol |
| 20:28:48 | George- | 13,057 kilobytes |
| 20:32:38 | George- | uploading |
| 20:35:40 | George- | HEY |
| 20:35:44 | George- | jason? |
| 20:50:50 | Inertia_JBM | Im here ;) |
| 20:50:54 | Inertia_JBM | dont worry |
| 20:51:24 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 28% |****************************** | 3656 KB 00:49 ETA |
| 20:51:43 | Inertia_JBM | wow ;) - thanks mate ;) |
| 20:51:59 | Inertia_JBM | so is that the kernel and the fs or one or tother? |
| 20:52:05 | George- | fs |
| 20:52:10 | George- | I'm not uploading kernel |
| 20:52:12 | George- | too unstable |
| 20:52:12 | Inertia_JBM | and the kernel? |
| 20:52:38 | George- | Read the above! |
| 20:52:40 | George- | ;) |
| 20:57:36 | Inertia_JBM | hehe |
| 20:57:46 | Inertia_JBM | whats the stability of the current one like then? |
| 20:57:57 | George- | it's ok |
| 20:58:22 | Inertia_JBM | so what did you change on the current one - if you dont mind me asking... |
| 20:58:34 | Inertia_JBM | its nice to talk to someone who is interested in the 5 and knows what they're talking about |
| 20:58:35 | Inertia_JBM | ! |
| 20:58:49 | George- | I don't know what I'm talking about |
| 20:58:51 | George- | lol |
| 20:58:56 | George- | Included fstab |
| 20:59:09 | George- | sorted the first time bootup configuration script |
| 20:59:17 | George- | put in fbset (doesn't work) |
| 20:59:23 | Inertia_JBM | thats part of the new kernel? |
| 20:59:28 | George- | no |
| 20:59:34 | George- | the new kernel is not going up |
| 20:59:40 | George- | you'll have to use the old kernel :) |
| 20:59:48 | George- | The new one is far too unstable |
| 20:59:50 | George- | lol |
| 21:06:29 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 49% |***************************************************** | 6320 KB - stalled - |
| 21:06:40 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 49% |***************************************************** | 6320 KB - stalled - |
| 21:06:57 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 50% |****************************************************** | 6416 KB 00:38 ETA |
| 21:06:59 | George- | ;) |
| 21:09:06 | Inertia_JBM2 | oops |
| 21:09:07 | George- | wb |
| 21:09:09 | Inertia_JBM2 | that didnt go well |
| 21:09:13 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 50% |****************************************************** | 6416 KB 00:38 ETA |
| 21:09:18 | Inertia_JBM2 | hehe :) |
| 21:09:21 | Inertia_JBM2 | how you uploading it? |
| 21:09:29 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 54% |********************************************************** | 6896 KB 00:32 ETA |
| 21:09:51 | Inertia_JBM2 | ok - but why is the current kernel so unstable? |
| 21:10:00 | George- | because it is :) |
| 21:10:33 | Inertia | right - now all I have to do is remove Inertia_JBM |
| 21:10:58 | Inertia | hmm |
| 21:11:16 | Inertia | slaps Inertia_JBM around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:11:25 | Inertia | hmm - that didnt work! |
| 21:11:26 | Inertia | ehe |
| 21:11:50 | George- | type in /msg nickserv ghost Inertia_JBM <pass> |
| 21:17:26 | Inertia | did that work? |
| 21:17:33 | George- | ? |
| 21:17:37 | Inertia | I tried it |
| 21:17:41 | Inertia | but noting seemed to happen |
| 21:17:43 | Inertia | hnmmm |
| 21:17:52 | George- | replace <pass> with your nickname's password |
| 21:17:54 | George- | unless |
| 21:18:03 | George- | you didn't register that nickname!!! |
| 21:18:12 | Inertia | clearly I didnt. |
| 21:18:15 | George- | argh |
| 21:18:18 | George- | you fool |
| 21:18:19 | George- | =P |
| 21:18:21 | Inertia | I *want* to use Inertia |
| 21:18:30 | Inertia | well I thought we already knew that? |
| 21:19:20 | Inertia | so then - here you go - how do I extract this fs? |
| 21:19:55 | George- | have you downloaded it? |
| 21:20:00 | George- | I haven't finished uploading it yet |
| 21:20:01 | George- | lol |
| 21:20:58 | Inertia | I know - but I have to prepair to install it. |
| 21:21:08 | Inertia | which will be about 1hrs worth of job.! |
| 21:21:27 | George- | bunzip2 blah |
| 21:21:29 | George- | tar -xvf blah |
| 21:21:31 | George- | :) |
| 21:22:13 | Inertia | is there a way of causing it to untar whilst unzipping ? |
| 21:22:53 | George- | no |
| 21:23:03 | George- | that's only with gzip |
| 21:23:06 | George- | lol |
| 21:25:32 | George- | problem solved :) |
| 21:26:26 | Inertia | problem solved? |
| 21:26:58 | George- | inertia_jbm has died |
| 21:27:00 | George- | heh |
| 21:28:19 | George- | "First off, I don't like a lot of the elitism that does on among Linux |
| 21:28:19 | George- | hackers.[...] If you think using Un*x makes you some kind of super |
| 21:28:19 | George- | genius who should be feared by mere mortals and |
| 21:28:19 | George- | end users, either get over it or start using *BSD. *BSD users (and |
| 21:28:19 | George- | developers) are all complete jackasses, so you'll fit right in." |
| 21:28:19 | George- | (Linus Torvalds, 11 Avr 2001) |
| 21:28:21 | George- | LOL |
| 21:29:30 | Inertia | where did you find that? |
| 21:29:49 | George- | quote in an email on the lkml |
| 21:29:51 | George- | lol |
| 21:29:58 | Inertia | nifty ;) |
| 21:30:39 | George- | he doesn't like BSD |
| 21:30:41 | George- | lol |
| 21:31:03 | Inertia | fair enough hehe |
| 21:31:13 | George- | "First off, I don't like a lot of the elitism that does on among Linux hackers.[...] If you think using Un*x makes you some kind of super genius who should be feared by mere mortals and end users, either get over it or start using *BSD. *BSD users (and developers) are all complete jackasses, so you'll fit right in." (Linus Torvalds, 11 Avr 2001) |
| 21:32:30 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 87% |********************************************************************************************** | 11088 KB 00:06 ETA |
| 21:33:38 | George- | I see the human centered readers of this group have forgotton who made |
| 21:33:40 | George- | Linux great. It is I - Tux T. Penguin - who am the right leader for |
| 21:33:40 | George- | the future. Loveable, slightly chubby and I only need a few herring |
| 21:33:40 | George- | to live on. |
| 21:41:48 | Inertia | I have to say I think Tux is one of linux's greatest things! |
| 21:42:26 | George- | lol |
| 21:42:27 | Inertia | howz the upload mate? |
| 21:42:37 | George- | etux-1.0alpha1.tar.b 100% |*************************************************************************************************************| 12741 KB 00:43 |
| 21:42:43 | George- | nearly there |
| 21:42:46 | George- | :) |
| 21:42:48 | George- | about 200KB to go |
| 21:42:52 | George- | DONE |
| 21:42:53 | George- | =P |
| 21:42:58 | Inertia | oooh ;) |
| 21:43:29 | George- | and. er.. |
| 21:43:34 | George- | I don't know anything about Linux :) |
| 21:43:36 | George- | seriously |
| 21:43:40 | George- | I talk a load of crap |
| 21:43:47 | George- | and people seem to think I'm talking sense :) |
| 21:46:02 | Inertia | hehe ;) - you know a little and fill in the gaps with something which sounds like it could be right - I do that all my life and it seems to work |
| 21:46:07 | Inertia | people think I know what I mean |
| 21:46:18 | Inertia | or summut like that |
| 21:46:25 | George- | lol |
| 21:46:31 | Inertia | so where is the download? |
| 21:46:43 | George- | etux.sf.net/download.html |
| 21:47:17 | Inertia | you forgot to chmod it ;) |
| 21:47:24 | George- | ack |
| 21:47:25 | George- | ok |
| 21:47:27 | Inertia | hehe |
| 21:48:33 | George- | now try |
| 21:49:05 | Inertia | cheers ;) |
| 21:49:38 | Inertia | thats downloading. |
| 21:49:49 | Inertia | so then - would gzip do what Im after do you think? |
| 21:50:45 | George- | no |
| 21:50:47 | George- | you want bzip2 |
| 21:50:52 | George- | it should be installed |
| 21:51:00 | George- | bunzip2 etux...tar.bz2 |
| 21:51:07 | George- | tar -xvf etux....tar |
| 21:52:45 | Inertia | but that would unzip then untar right - as separate procedures? |
| 22:11:49 | Inertia | Im after somethign which destroys the zip or tar as it extracts it |
| 22:13:07 | george_ | hey |
| 22:13:09 | george_ | Inertia: |
| 22:13:13 | george_ | PING |
| 22:20:26 | Inertia | george |
| 22:20:28 | Inertia | ? |
| 22:20:30 | Inertia | Im here |
| 22:20:41 | Inertia | when did you disappear? |
| 22:21:00 | Inertia | appologies for lack of service and high ping times |
