| 09:05:17 | Inertia_JBM | Hey Chris |
| 09:07:27 | ctr | hi hi |
| 09:07:35 | ctr | check http://www.darkrock.net |
| 09:07:38 | ctr | top news item |
| 09:07:41 | ctr | for my sshot :) |
| 10:03:37 | George- | hi |
| 10:06:57 | ctr | hi |
| 12:13:47 | George- | hey ctr |
| 12:13:56 | George- | um... |
| 12:14:04 | George- | are my mails to linux-7110 being filtered? |
| 12:14:12 | George- | can someone check if they got my mail from yesterday? |
| 12:14:19 | George- | titled "Series 5 woes" |
| 12:14:25 | George- | from "George Wright" |
| 12:14:33 | ctr | hey George- |
| 12:14:35 | ctr | i've worked out the other case in whcih i get a jitter event |
| 12:14:38 | ctr | nope |
| 12:14:39 | ctr | why? |
| 12:14:41 | ctr | yeah i did |
| 12:14:43 | ctr | about the abort code |
| 12:14:46 | ctr | yes yes |
| 12:14:47 | ctr | i got it :) |
| 12:14:57 | George- | oh |
| 12:14:57 | George- | ok |
| 12:15:07 | George- | at least people are getting them |
| 12:15:08 | George- | heh |
| 12:15:11 | George- | do you know what's wrong? |
| 12:15:24 | ctr | erm |
| 12:15:31 | ctr | what kernel are you using? |
| 12:15:43 | George- | 2.2.1 |
| 12:15:47 | George- | c+b26 |
| 12:15:50 | George- | rmk2 |
| 12:15:57 | ctr | hmm |
| 12:16:05 | ctr | and did you use the Xipaq server? |
| 12:16:28 | George- | I didn't get that far |
| 12:16:35 | George- | It happened when I booted up : |
| 12:16:35 | ctr | ok |
| 12:16:36 | George- | :) |
| 12:16:39 | ctr | oh |
| 12:16:45 | ctr | it's a kernel issue |
| 12:17:01 | George- | i thought it may have tried to execute a non-existant intruction |
| 12:17:31 | ctr | probably |
| 12:17:38 | ctr | within hardware somewhere |
| 12:17:43 | George- | hmm? |
| 12:17:49 | ctr | well |
| 12:17:56 | ctr | the asm for the kernel is probably correct |
| 12:18:00 | George- | Kernel Panic: Unknown data abort code 4194304 [pc=4018983c, *pc=e104309c] |
| 12:18:00 | George- | LR=4018983c |
| 12:18:06 | ctr | but |
| 12:18:24 | ctr | it's trying to do something and the kernel is getting an interupt of some description |
| 12:18:32 | ctr | which causes the kernel panic |
| 12:18:45 | George- | um... |
| 12:18:48 | George- | ok. |
| 12:19:00 | ctr | at a guess |
| 12:19:12 | George- | is it the root image? |
| 12:19:15 | George- | or the kernel then? |
| 12:19:24 | ctr | how far does the kernel get? |
| 12:19:31 | George- | because the kernel works with Honza Fikar's initrd |
| 12:19:33 | George- | hang on |
| 12:20:12 | George- | it says |
| 12:20:15 | ctr | i suspect it's an etna issue with the cf card |
| 12:20:22 | George- | INIT: version 2.83 booting |
| 12:20:28 | George- | Kernel panic |
| 12:20:39 | George- | no way |
| 12:20:45 | George- | it can't be the CF card |
| 12:21:07 | ctr | hmm |
| 12:23:30 | George- | what's happened about Andrew Kozic's 2.4.x kernel for the S5? |
| 12:23:38 | ctr | not sure |
| 12:23:41 | ctr | i think he is busy in RL |
| 12:24:02 | George- | RL? |
| 12:24:08 | George- | oh |
| 12:24:08 | George- | heh |
| 12:24:10 | ctr | Real Life |
| 12:24:53 | George- | I'm being ignored on the list |
| 12:25:06 | ctr | no your not |
| 12:25:16 | George- | boohoo |
| 12:25:16 | George- | ;) |
| 12:25:16 | ctr | linux7k is a slow list unless you have code to contribute |
| 12:25:25 | George- | heh |
| 12:25:43 | George- | it never used to be like that, though |
| 12:25:48 | ctr | but most of the people hacking code are using a variation on 5mx - not too many people with coding skills or knowledge are interested in the s5 |
| 12:25:49 | George- | a few years back |
| 12:27:01 | George- | what happened to Klaasjan? |
| 12:27:38 | ctr | who? |
| 12:27:50 | George- | Klaasjan van Druten |
| 12:28:02 | George- | the guy who made initrds3.gz initrds2.gz |
| 12:28:06 | George- | the *famous* initrds :) |
| 12:28:20 | ctr | oh |
| 12:28:32 | ctr | ok |
| 12:28:41 | ctr | 4.5k words written so far on my disseration |
| 12:28:49 | George- | ? |
| 12:29:03 | ctr | the writeup on my final year project |
| 12:29:16 | George- | oh |
| 12:29:24 | ctr | does the "I am 21 tomorrow" dance |
| 12:30:08 | George- | heh |
| 12:30:27 | George- | 1st ApriL?!? |
| 12:30:28 | George- | LOL |
| 12:30:30 | ctr | yep |
| 12:30:36 | George- | you're the April Fool! |
| 12:30:37 | George- | =P |
| 12:30:50 | George- | nah |
| 12:30:53 | George- | j/k |
| 12:31:00 | ctr | hehe |
| 12:31:22 | George- | does the "I was 14 last week" dance |
| 12:31:23 | George- | =P |
| 13:20:26 | George- | yes! |
| 13:20:31 | George- | psilinux has booted off my CF :) |
| 13:20:34 | George- | fraggle: ping |
| 14:33:48 | george_ | wb fraggle |
| 15:03:48 | george_ | ctr: hi |
| 15:04:39 | ctr | hi |
| 15:30:07 | george_ | ctr: do you have any Series 5 stuff that you can give me?\ |
| 15:32:45 | ctr | nope |
| 15:32:54 | ctr | never really tried linux on my 5 |
| 15:32:59 | george_ | damn |
| 15:33:06 | george_ | bashes boris :) |
| 15:36:18 | ctr | but |
| 15:36:24 | ctr | i do almost have some decent jitter code |
| 15:36:36 | ctr | or rather anti jitter |
| 15:38:31 | George- | hummmmm |
| 15:38:42 | George- | i can't really do much about that :) |
| 15:38:45 | George- | I have a 5 |
| 15:39:43 | George- | s/about/with |
| 15:39:57 | George- | hmm |
| 15:40:06 | George- | why does nobody ever come on this channel? |
| 15:40:10 | George- | heh |
| 15:40:37 | George- | I'm the only sad loser that has no mates in RL |
| 15:40:37 | George- | :) |
| 15:40:40 | George- | nah |
| 15:40:41 | George- | j/k |
| 15:44:03 | ctr | heh |
| 15:44:13 | ctr | people are busy in real life an on different time zones |
| 15:45:34 | George- | ;) |
| 15:45:58 | George- | does the anti-jitter code work? |
| 15:46:23 | ctr | no yet |
| 15:46:25 | ctr | not yet |
| 15:46:28 | ctr | still some issues |
| 15:46:42 | ctr | it's a case of filtering out events |
| 15:46:53 | ctr | but some are anoying |
| 15:47:36 | George- | http://www.emdebian.org/emdebsys.html |
| 15:47:38 | George- | check out that url |
| 15:47:44 | George- | It could be a great asset to us |
| 15:50:27 | ctr | hmm |
| 15:51:33 | George- | I've just emailed the list about it |
| 15:55:27 | johnix | yow! |
| 16:01:55 | George- | hi johnix |
| 16:02:01 | George- | I'm trying to get X going on my 5 |
| 16:02:03 | George- | (classic) |
| 16:03:28 | johnix | you're the one who tried the 5mx kernel on the S5, right? |
| 16:03:45 | George- | 5mx initrd :) |
| 16:03:50 | George- | and it totally fucked |
| 16:03:51 | George- | lol |
| 16:04:05 | johnix | too bad |
| 16:04:20 | johnix | did you compile it for the s5, or just fetch a binary? |
| 16:04:52 | johnix | I'm really itching to make use of my S5 |
| 16:05:28 | johnix | especially since now is the time where it would have been most useful tu have a PDA. |
| 16:06:25 | johnix | and since I can't get *anything* to work on my S5 (no emacs, no zile, no init, pretty much only cat and ls...) |
| 16:06:43 | ctr | bbl |
| 16:07:01 | johnix | I wonder if there could be a way to compile things to get them to work on the S5 |
| 16:07:56 | johnix | so, how is X doing on the S5?* |
| 16:08:00 | George- | hang on |
| 16:08:11 | George- | (phone) |
| 16:18:51 | George- | back |
| 16:18:53 | George- | sorry |
| 16:19:01 | George- | was on the phone and the internet disconnected itself |
| 16:19:03 | George- | I'm creating a base image for my CF at the moment |
| 16:19:08 | George- | and compiling a kernel to make use of 4bpp |
| 16:23:17 | johnix | ok, tell me later |
| 16:23:23 | johnix | I'm going back to work |
| 16:23:25 | George- | ok |
| 16:23:26 | George- | bye |
| 16:23:29 | johnix | good luck! |
| 16:23:33 | George- | thx |
| 16:23:38 | George- | you'll be on later? |
| 16:23:41 | George- | damn |
| 16:23:42 | George- | =P |
| 17:29:06 | George- | YES! |
| 17:29:11 | George- | Debian is FINALLY installed |
| 17:30:37 | | http://www.psilinux.org |
| 17:30:37 | George- | ibot psilinux |
| 17:30:45 | | tangent is mailto:jim@secret.org.uk |
| 17:30:45 | George- | ibot tangent |
| 17:30:50 | | tangent was last seen on #handhelds.org 2 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 26 seconds ago, saying: goes away for the weekend [Fri Mar 29 13:28:24 2002] |
| 17:30:50 | George- | ibot seen tangent |
| 17:31:59 | | George-: huh? |
| 17:31:59 | George- | ibot lart ibot |
| 17:32:02 | George- | ok |
| 18:11:10 | George- | hi ctr |
| 18:11:14 | George- | can you tell me something? |
| 18:21:10 | ctr | wb |
| 18:21:13 | ctr | what do you want to know |
| 18:21:15 | ctr | ? |
| 18:21:44 | George- | how do I make a debian root image? |
| 18:21:46 | George- | for PsiLinux? |
| 18:21:50 | George- | and which shall I use |
| 18:21:54 | George- | Woody or Potato |
| 18:22:04 | George- | and btw - the S5 is definitely ARMv3l |
| 18:22:17 | ctr | erm |
| 18:22:19 | George- | I've got *a* version of Debian GNU/Linux working |
| 18:22:20 | George- | :) |
| 18:22:21 | ctr | not sure in all honesty |
| 18:22:26 | George- | damn |
| 18:22:28 | George- | s'ok |
| 18:23:09 | George- | i think potato cos we're using kernel 2.2.1 |
| 18:23:10 | George- | then |
| 18:23:11 | George- | erm. |
| 18:23:15 | George- | that's it :) |
| 18:23:56 | ctr | heh |
| 18:56:22 | George- | hi |
| 19:54:15 | George- | hi ctr |
| 19:54:21 | George- | do you have a fast inet connection? |
| 19:54:26 | George- | (faster than 56k) |
| 19:54:52 | George- | finally got his debian system loaded |
| 19:54:58 | ctr | no |
| 19:55:31 | George- | ok |
| 19:55:38 | George- | I got Debian 2.2r5 on! |
| 19:55:41 | George- | woohoo |
| 19:55:44 | George- | dances about |
| 19:55:46 | ctr | cool |
| 19:56:04 | George- | i feel like giving the image to someone |
| 19:56:10 | George- | ;) |
| 19:56:53 | ctr | is that stable, unstable or testing |
| 19:57:02 | George- | stable |
| 19:57:04 | George- | potato |
| 19:57:33 | ctr | oh |
| 19:57:43 | George- | testing has to use kern 2.4 afaik |
| 19:57:48 | ctr | oh |
| 19:58:00 | George- | And as I'm on 56k I wasn't willing to download woody to find out it wouldn't work :) |
| 19:59:11 | George- | And I've found the "unconfigured.sh" script |
| 19:59:21 | George- | which is executed if the base system is unconfigured |
| 19:59:37 | George- | I can overwrite that with a first-time boot system configuration script |
| 19:59:43 | George- | to set hostname, root password etc |
| 19:59:44 | George- | :) |
| 20:00:38 | George- | so it seems PsiLinux will be heavily based on Debian |
| 20:00:40 | George- | er.. |
| 20:00:43 | George- | s/PsiLinux/eTux |
| 20:03:52 | ctr | :) |
| 20:03:55 | ctr | eTux ? |
| 20:04:53 | George- | yea |
| 20:05:01 | ctr | wassat? |
| 20:05:05 | George- | my psion distro |
| 20:05:06 | George- | heh |
| 20:05:16 | George- | check out etux.sf.net |
| 21:40:53 | George- | brb |