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00:08.00ibotFull-time pillbox servers are: silvercat.bzflag.org:5155(pill1), brad.bzflag.org:5155(pill2), or try ~pillmatch
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02:11.20longhair~pillmatch
02:11.22ibotPILLBOX match servers are:  silvercat.bzflag.org:5157 (pbm1) , silvercat.bzflag.bz:1115 (pbm2) , brad.bzflag.org:59999 (pbm3), or try ~pillbox
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15:39.35Mr_Molezanyone alive ?
15:40.15CBGnope :(
15:45.07Mr_Molezanyone ?
15:45.18CBGsorry...
15:45.44Mr_Molezlonghair: ping
15:54.02longhairMr_Molez: pong
15:54.43Mr_Molezi had a weird idea and stuff
15:54.58longhairlike, what kind of idea
15:55.10longhairsome of us like weird ideas
15:55.48CBGoooh, do tell, Mr_Molez !
15:55.54Mr_Molezlike hmm.. allow two teams to play together v 2 other teams. the 2 teams that win both get points and the two teams that lose both lose points
15:56.09Mr_Molezit wont really change much. But might make it more interesting :D
15:56.22Mr_Molezif it is ever possible to find 4 teams :D
15:56.28longhairhehe was going to go there :)
15:56.37longhairbut who knows?
15:56.38CBGmight be easier than finding 2 guys from two teams
15:56.57brad1 guy from each team ?
15:56.58Mr_Molezyeh, but if the opportunity ever comes up to do it :P
15:57.01CBG1 guy each from 4 teams _may_ be easier sometimes.
15:57.08Mr_Molezohh ohh
15:57.19Mr_Molezthat sounds interesting aswell !
15:57.27bradsounds stupid to me but whatever ;)
15:57.28longhairI think molez is talking about the 4 way ctf pillbox
15:57.36CBGo.O
15:57.58bradthe best teams will go together
15:58.16Mr_Molezsurely it work work. trying to protect two flags goda be fun :P
15:58.50orangeMr_Molez: interesting... I'd had that idea, but joining together for the same flag
15:58.55Mr_Molezor even the same . 1 team v another team.. and 1 player have red . 1 blue .. 1 purple 1 the toher colour
15:58.57orangejust to get bigger matches
15:59.13Mr_Molezor is there a hack to have 2 red flags ? and two green flag s?
15:59.27orangeyou can have multiple bases, but I don't know if you can have multiple flags
15:59.34orangeI think you can... hmmm
15:59.36longhairorange: so you mean that say, you and I are on a server,and want to play say, molez and menotume
15:59.46CBGYou CAN have multiple team flags.
15:59.57longhairwe'd split the points between the teams?
16:00.02orangelonghair: yes, something like that
16:00.12Mr_Molez:D
16:00.15orangebut more for larger matches
16:00.18orangeon full-size pillbox
16:00.20longhairyep, you can have sever flags of the same color. used it in HTF
16:00.23orangelike 6v6
16:00.32longhairah
16:00.36bradhow would you decide the teams
16:00.45Mr_Molezif i set a server up for this would you be all willing to test out a match later to see if it will work or not ?
16:01.21longhairdon't see why not. just for fun
16:01.26Mr_Molezyay :D
16:01.53CBGsure sure
16:01.58Mr_Molezyay :D
16:02.03Mr_Molezneed 1 more atleast
16:02.19longhairorange: were we to do something like points sharing between teams, I'm guessing that it would take some php hacking to get it to work w/ bzleague
16:02.52longhairperhaps a new php page that offers a split format
16:04.00orangeMr_Molez: for a fun match, yes, probably...
16:04.11orangemy biggest problem these days is I find it hard to get 30 uninterrupted minutes
16:04.16orangesometimes I have to go afk
16:04.20orangeand that's not good for official matches :-)
16:04.37Mr_Molezk ill make 1 server for 2 red and 2 green flags.. and 1 server for 4 flags
16:04.48orangelonghair: yes, it would require some serious changes
16:05.09longhairMr_Molez: while you're at it, how about a 15 or 20 minute time limit for us busy types
16:05.36Mr_Molezlonghair: k
16:05.41longhaircool
16:05.44Mr_Molezlonghair: btw is 15 mins allowed on pillbox league ?
16:05.58longhairyou know, it has never been discussed
16:06.05longhairmake a post in the forum or something
16:06.14Mr_Molezquick put up a news section and say 15 mins is allowed ! :)
16:06.15longhairwe'll see how the players feel about it
16:06.20Mr_Molezohh ok
16:06.32Mr_Molezk ill do that
16:06.48longhairpersonally, I have no trouble w/ shorter matches
16:06.52longhairyou still have a winner
16:07.13longhairalthough 30 minutes favors those with better endurance/concentration
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16:08.06longhairhi k
16:08.13kierrahowdy :)\
16:10.46Mr_Molezk posted
16:10.50Mr_Molezgo write about how good it is
16:12.51Mr_Molezno!! :P
16:12.58orangehehe, no, I'd love shorter matches
16:13.06Mr_Molezme 2 :)
16:13.13longhairone thnig that does cross my mind is that a server starts w/ only 1 option for timing. For example, most use -time 1800 in the conf
16:13.17Mr_Molezi think most people do
16:13.38longhairor can that be set on the fly?
16:13.52Mr_Molezi dont think it can :-S ill ask in #bzflag
16:17.57Mr_Molezahh well. im sure server owners wont mind providing an extra port :P
16:18.06longhairhehe
16:27.17Mr_MolezCBG: post
16:27.21Mr_Molezlonghair: post
16:27.23Mr_Molezorange: post
16:27.29CBGMr_Molez: stop spamming
16:27.30kierrathe ducati league is considering a 15 mn match time
16:27.31CBGMr_Molez: stop spamming
16:27.45CBGkierra: 20 would be better, imho.
16:27.50CBG15 is _too_ short.
16:28.03kierraspoke with meno about it couple wks back
16:28.07orangeI was thinking 17 would be good
16:28.26Mr_Molezuhh lol
16:29.00CBGlol orange
16:29.55orangehow about a match to a certain # of caps
16:30.09orangebest 3/5 or something
16:30.21orangeso if someone gets 3 they win
16:31.01orangeof course, that would work better if there were a full reset after each cap
16:31.04Mr_Molezthat could cause arguements on whether or not they agreed to do max or 3 or not
16:31.35orangewell, you have defined rules for this game style
16:31.41CBGThere is a plugin (RaceToSeven) that can automate that. Everyone joins, run "/match start" and the plugin counts the caps till one team gets to the defined number of caps (does not actually have to be 7 ;) ) and then data is autmatically sent to the site.
16:31.46orangeand you unanimously agree which ruleset you use
16:31.51CBGThis is used for the planet-mofo league, btw.
16:32.04orangeCBG: cool, that's perfect
16:32.13orangedoes it reset everything after each cap?
16:32.20orangewould be great if all flags reset and all players respawned on bases
16:32.28CBGNot sure. I only used it 1on1.
16:32.38CBGWhen I capped, I did not die, but I was at my base anyway.
16:32.43orangebut what about your flag/
16:32.44orange?
16:32.52CBGMy flag was not reset, iirc.
16:32.57orangebut his client was
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16:35.35Mr_Molezi dont like the idea of limiting caps.
16:35.48CBGhmm, sorry, battery was almost flat :o
16:35.48longhairbut what if it's one of those tough matches where it takes all you have to just score 1
16:35.50CBGMy flag was not reset, iirc.
16:36.04longhairyou could end up w/ super long matches
16:36.13longhairor super short
16:36.19longhairdepending
16:36.27CBGcould use both ideas.
16:36.47CBGfirst to 5 caps, unless noone gets to 5 in 20 minutes (a draw/tie).
16:37.12longhairhmmm, does racetoseven support that right now?
16:37.27CBGnope, doubt it.
16:37.48longhairOne other thing with race to seven:
16:37.55bradhmm so if it's 2-1 it will still be a tie after 20 mins?
16:38.06longhairI'm not sure that I'm totally comfortable with auto reporting
16:38.08CBGbrad: no, the one with 2 would win
16:38.15bradok
16:38.18CBGbut if it was 2-2 after 20 minutes, it would be a tie
16:38.23bradright
16:38.32CBGlonghair: if there is a problem, the result can be removed
16:38.49CBGthink about it now: how many matches are reported? how many need to be removed?
16:39.00braddoes it support a "fun match" command? ;)
16:39.03longhairnone removed that I know
16:39.17longhairbut they're usually put in correctly
16:39.19CBGbrad: that would be easy to implement
16:39.29CBGlonghair: the plugin would make less errors than a human
16:39.58bradif the human codes it correctly
16:39.59longhairyes, but computers are notorious for being wrong in the face of human foibles
16:40.30longhairfor example, someone needs to leave a match. even for a good reason.
16:40.44longhairdoes race to seven take that into account?
16:40.49CBGno idea
16:41.03Mr_Molezi have already thought of  a solution for that
16:42.25longhairoh?
16:42.48Mr_Molezyeh make a gu style system
16:42.53Mr_Molezof only registered players can play
16:43.00Mr_Molezthen make the code look for 1 player
16:43.09CBGbtw, i don't know an awful lot about the plugin - best to speak to 'RPG_' or maybe 'A-Delusion'
16:43.15Mr_Molezfind what team that 1 player is on
16:43.18Mr_Molezand send results
16:43.46CBGThe mofo league has it's own database of players.
16:44.02CBGthe plugin matches players on the server with players on the database and finds the teams that way
16:45.05CBGah, g2g, dinner.
16:46.21longhaircu cbg
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17:47.12Mr_Molezthe map is all set up , just tell me when u guys are ready :D
17:47.23bradwhere is it?! :O
17:47.27Mr_Molez(2 green flags) (2 reds)
17:47.40Mr_Molezand 2 red and 2 green bases
17:47.42Mr_Molez59992
17:47.44bradwhat port molez?
17:47.45bradk
17:47.51Mr_Molezlinks.bzflag.org 59992
17:47.59Mr_Molezor ducati-style.bzflag.org whatever
17:48.50Mr_Molezsorry ill fix global login
17:48.55longhairok
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20:15.54Mr_MolezSportChick: how long left in that gu match ?
20:16.18SportChickit's over
20:16.21Mr_Molezyay
20:16.52CBG~wet Mr_Molez
20:16.53ibotACTION tips a bucket of special dry water over Mr_Molez's head!
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