| 01:47.04 | *** join/#picogui linear_shift (linear_shi@ppp155.stack1.adata.com) |
| 01:47.21 | linear_shift | okay, last channel |
| 01:47.36 | linear_shift | is the chanop here? |
| 01:47.45 | scanline | ? |
| 01:48.09 | linear_shift | um, i'd like to be a chanop |
| 01:48.17 | scanline | forget about it |
| 01:49.19 | captain_proton | linear_shift: is there a specific reason? |
| 01:52.08 | linear_shift | i need some experience for my channel |
| 01:53.47 | captain_proton | chanop action is fairly rare on freenode |
| 01:55.39 | scanline | is your channel on freenode too? |
| 01:56.38 | linear_shift | yes |
| 01:56.50 | scanline | why do you need experience to op it? |
| 01:58.50 | linear_shift | see how its to op |
| 01:59.03 | linear_shift | i know all the commands |
| 01:59.51 | scanline | if you just want to feel the power of being an IRC op, freenode is going to disappoint you |
| 02:00.21 | scanline | ops are generally only taken when it's necessary around here... only channels with higher than usual concentrations of skript kiddies keep ops permanently |
| 02:00.38 | scanline | and it's more than a little weird to just join random channels and ask for ops |
| 02:02.00 | linear_shift | no pwer is involved, just need expr for project channel |
| 02:02.23 | captain_proton | if you know the commands, i don't see the issue |
| 02:03.25 | linear_shift | people experience |
| 02:04.22 | linear_shift | irc culture |
| 02:04.23 | linear_shift | that stuff |
| 02:04.33 | scanline | you're not going to get that from a little channel like #picogui :) |
| 02:04.37 | njs | There's, umm, nothing to it. If someone does something stupid and needs to be banned, you do it. Then you go back to whatever you were doing before... |
| 02:07.02 | linear_shift | i guess |
| 02:07.13 | *** join/#picogui Piete (~abri@61.104.220.154) |
| 02:07.31 | scanline | you'll get more 'people experience' by getting on with it and running a project than you will worrying about ops |
| 02:07.56 | Piete | I'm going to try and run picogui on a P100 32MB ram, and a 16 color framebuffer. Am I being stupid? |
| 02:08.32 | scanline | Piete: just run X |
| 02:08.41 | Piete | nope |
| 02:08.48 | Piete | x is too big for that :/ |
| 02:08.56 | scanline | nonsense |
| 02:09.03 | Piete | but I want to be adventurous :) |
| 02:09.09 | captain_proton | scanline: haven't you heard? enlightenment and gnome won't run on a p100! thus, we can't use X! |
| 02:09.11 | Piete | pleeeaasee |
| 02:09.25 | scanline | Piete: go ahead, just don't complain about autotools errors :P |
| 02:09.30 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:09.34 | Piete | well, I run the latest gentoo on it |
| 02:09.39 | Piete | its as up-to-date as you can get :) |
| 02:10.37 | captain_proton | you're using gentoo on a p100? .... |
| 02:11.33 | Piete | yes. its my firewall, so I want to keep it up to date. I installed from stage 3, and firewalls don't need much else than that. Its up 24/7, so compile times do not bother me |
| 02:12.16 | *** part/#picogui linear_shift (linear_shi@ppp155.stack1.adata.com) |
| 02:12.50 | Piete | hmm, I can use pg without a mouse, right? |
| 02:12.51 | Piete | hehe |
| 02:12.55 | scanline | yep |
| 02:14.38 | Piete | I actualy tried X on it, but it kept crashing.. Anyway, just 50+MB just to run a glorified terminal is overkill :) |
| 02:15.29 | scanline | you can get X smaller than that |
| 02:15.36 | scanline | try a TinyX/KDrive server |
| 02:15.49 | Piete | well, ok see you guys later :) I have to go to work now :/ |
| 02:15.56 | scanline | have fun |
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| 08:32.58 | xF|ux | ne1 around that works on the project? |
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| 12:37.59 | hunger | I am trying to build picogui 0.45 and get "set: 65: Illegal option -h" whenever I try to "make" |
| 12:38.06 | hunger | Any ideas? |
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| 14:07.18 | hunger | I am trying to build picogui 0.45 and get "set: 65: Illegal option -h" whenever I try to "make" |
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| 19:44.52 | hunger | Anybody here? |
| 20:02.34 | njs | there have been about 5 people in the last few days unable to build picogui for one reason or another; so far scanline has been saying "Eh, picogui 1 is obsolete, and autoconf isn't work the pain -- fix it yourself if you want". |
| 20:02.51 | njs | On the other hand, your problem looks slightly less insane than the people running into libtool bugs and the like... |
| 21:12.04 | hunger | njs: It does not depend on my shell afaict. |
| 21:12.17 | hunger | njs: Neither bash nor tcsh, dash, sash nor ksh work. |
| 21:13.15 | hunger | njs: And even if picogui 1 is obsolete, you should be able to build the latest released version IMHO. |
| 21:13.27 | njs | well, talk to scanline... |
| 21:14.18 | hunger | njs: It's so great... each time I want to give my presentation on cool GUI systems I can only compile one less then the last time. |
| 21:14.44 | hunger | njs: Now I'm down to one... fresco allways builds for me (or at least I can fix it;-) |
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