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| 06:38.11 | peter_ | morning |
| 06:38.19 | scanline | hi |
| 06:38.34 | peter_ | still awake? :) |
| 06:38.50 | scanline | yep. it's not late here yet.. only 00:38 |
| 06:39.28 | peter_ | :)....ok....still some hours left to work |
| 06:42.02 | peter_ | how to change the background color of e.g. a LABEL? is the picogui way of doing this using a theme? |
| 06:42.15 | scanline | yes |
| 06:42.25 | scanline | probably with custom theme objects |
| 06:42.51 | peter_ | ok, then i have to look into scripting a own theme..... |
| 06:43.18 | scanline | remember that you can have multiple themes... so you'd just have to put your new theme objects into a separate theme that would be packaged with your app |
| 06:43.52 | scanline | the theme could contain objects like: |
| 06:44.06 | scanline | object "myApp/colorfulLabel" { |
| 06:44.11 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.17 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.21 | scanline | } |
| 06:44.46 | scanline | then you call pgFindThemeObject("myApp/colorfulLabel") to get the object ID of that theme object, then set the 'thobj' property to that object ID |
| 06:45.09 | peter_ | yep. and this i have to compile using themec and pass to pgserver !? |
| 06:45.25 | scanline | you do have to compile with themec, but the app can load the theme itself using pgLoadTheme() |
| 06:45.56 | peter_ | yeah. cool. thanks |
| 06:46.05 | scanline | np |
| 06:48.01 | peter_ | i have a general issue with the zaurus under OZ, maybe you know something about this.... |
| 06:48.22 | scanline | probably not, but it's worth a try :) |
| 06:49.27 | peter_ | when turning off the zaurus(running a minimal version of OZ) using the on/off switch i can`t turn it back on using the on/off switch. only a soft reset can bring it back to life. in the normal OZ using opie this does work....any ideas? |
| 06:49.51 | scanline | I haven't seen that on my zaurus, but then I haven't tried a recent kernel |
| 06:52.08 | peter_ | mhm, when using apm --suspend, then i`m able to turn it on again......i dunno how the hole switch off/on thing wrks....maybe there are some scripts or something missing.... |
| 06:52.57 | scanline | ah. you could try modifying pgserver's zaurus driver to run apm --suspend instead of messing with /proc to suspend it |
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| 09:13.08 | bigthor | hi |
| 09:21.52 | scanline | hmm |
| 09:22.37 | PuckCh | for example : 33 seconds to update from 3880 to 3882 |
| 09:22.45 | scanline | egads |
| 09:25.07 | scanline | ah.. looks like captain_proton is copying some star trek episodes |
| 09:25.32 | scanline | is it any faster now? |
| 09:28.14 | PuckCh | a _lot_ better. Thanks. |
| 09:28.31 | scanline | sorry captain_proton :) |
| 09:30.55 | scanline | so is the cable modem connection usable enough (when nobody's scp'ing star trek) or should I make migrating everything to tass a top priority? :) |
| 09:33.11 | PuckCh | i think this is enough in normal case. |
| 09:33.23 | scanline | ok |
| 09:33.49 | scanline | I'd like to move it to a faster server eventually, but it'd be nice to wait for one with more disk space |
| 09:33.50 | PuckCh | i was just thinking you have another problems with the server (as I have see you have switched to svn 0.22) |
| 09:34.27 | scanline | no, haven't switched svn versions |
| 09:34.55 | scanline | I haven't had any major problems with it since I switched to libdb4.0 |
| 09:35.27 | PuckCh | cool. and the DMA problems are also "on control" ? |
| 09:35.35 | scanline | somewhat |
| 09:35.47 | scanline | linux 2.5 fixed the DMA problems, but it had some strange problems with ext3 |
| 09:35.55 | scanline | so I switched back to 2.4 |
| 09:36.18 | scanline | but now that navi's on a slower internet connection, I doubt the RAID will experience heavy enough use to trigger the bug |
| 09:36.19 | PuckCh | good decision i think for a "production" server. |
| 09:36.22 | scanline | yeah |
| 09:37.00 | scanline | I'd still like to get navi a less buggy IDE controller... captain_proton and I are planning on upgrading navi with a new motherboard, better IDE controllers, and more disks.. but that will have to wait until we've saved up some money |
| 09:37.00 | PuckCh | hope local users don't try to see the bug. ;-) |
| 09:37.08 | scanline | yeah :) |
| 09:37.32 | scanline | I've known about the bug for a long time, but normally it doesn't bother me... |
| 09:37.56 | scanline | but that last week of school several people were copying files off of navi as fast as they could before I had to move it home, so that's probably why the bug was triggering so often |
| 09:38.39 | PuckCh | so, if I understand correctly, you have finish the school ? |
| 09:38.54 | scanline | yep. got done last wednesday, so I'm on summer break now |
| 09:39.44 | scanline | I (hopefully) have a part time job working on firmware for a satellite on campus, and eForth probably wants me to do some picogui-related consulting |
| 09:40.22 | PuckCh | great. |
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| 15:48.19 | scanline | whee |
| 15:48.31 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/pgbuild/src/build-dev/SConstruct |
| 15:49.09 | scanline | yay for SCons combined with some wacky DOM contortions |
| 15:49.30 | carpman{mayuka} | ewww, DOM? |
| 15:49.42 | carpman{mayuka} | DOM is fat, expat is better. |
| 15:49.49 | scanline | eh.. |
| 15:49.51 | scanline | this is python's minidom |
| 15:50.03 | carpman{mayuka} | ah, ok. Thats btter than normal DOM. |
| 15:50.08 | scanline | which is just a minimal DOM interface on top of expat or whatever XML parser you have installe |
| 15:50.15 | scanline | dd |
| 15:50.41 | scanline | I had to do some strange things with it though :) |
| 15:50.48 | carpman{mayuka} | hehe |
| 15:51.32 | scanline | first roadblock was that Gentoo's _xmlplus module is broke |
| 15:51.49 | scanline | but python has this hack to load _xmlplus over the usual xml module if it's available... |
| 15:52.16 | scanline | so I wrote a strange little wrapper module that tests the xml module and forces it not to use _xmlplus if something's wrong |
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| 16:44.32 | PuckCh | hi lalo |
| 16:44.53 | PuckCh | just a question for the python expert ;-) |
| 16:49.20 | lalo | shoot |
| 16:50.24 | PuckCh | i have a little modified setup.py in the python client to add installation of the samples. |
| 16:50.47 | PuckCh | can i commit it ? (you can look it at https://navi.picogui.org:8443/svn/picogui/users/bornet/python/setup.py) |
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| 17:11.56 | PuckCh | wb |
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| 19:08.05 | DevGirl | scanline: ayt? |
| 19:08.13 | DevGirl | need to talk to you |
| 19:09.50 | carpman{mayuka} | hi DevGirl |
| 19:10.00 | DevGirl | ca |
| 19:10.08 | DevGirl | carpman{mayuka}: hiya hiya |
| 19:11.13 | DevGirl | where's scanline? |
| 19:11.18 | DevGirl | waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:11.30 | DevGirl | gonk{work}: ayt??? how are you? |
| 19:11.40 | lalo[out] | ibot: seen scanline |
| 19:11.40 | | lalo[out]: i haven't seen 'scanline ' |
| 19:11.41 | carpman{mayuka} | He didn't say he left |
| 19:11.44 | lalo[out] | ibot: seen scanline |
| 19:11.44 | | scanline is currently on #picogui #elinux #openembedded #bzflag. Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 3h 19m 28s |
| 19:11.59 | lalo[out] | 3h... must be in class or in bed] |
| 19:12.18 | carpman{mayuka} | file: hello f of ile |
| 19:12.31 | DevGirl | aaaacckkkk!!!! |
| 19:12.38 | DevGirl | oh, boy |
| 19:13.30 | DevGirl | me and lalo were working to bring scanline to brazil for the Forum :D |
| 19:13.48 | carpman{mayuka} | file: that will be W50 |
| 19:14.36 | file | DevGirl: neat |
| 19:14.40 | DevGirl | lalo[out]: don't you know where are he from??? |
| 19:15.06 | carpman{mayuka} | DevGirl: scanline lives in Co. |
| 19:15.47 | DevGirl | co? |
| 19:15.50 | DevGirl | mhuhauhwauhwauhaw |
| 19:15.58 | DevGirl | hehehhe |
| 19:16.19 | DevGirl | I need state and city, cause ppl will try to pay his expenses ^^ |
| 19:16.26 | carpman{mayuka} | colorado |
| 19:16.33 | lalo[out] | Boulder Colorado |
| 19:16.39 | carpman{mayuka} | co. is short for colorado |
| 19:16.57 | DevGirl | oh |
| 19:17.00 | carpman{mayuka} | He isin't in boulder right now, but he is close. He'll probably have to leave from Denver International anyway |
| 19:17.01 | DevGirl | thanks ^^ |
| 19:17.19 | file | Current location of Micah Dowty: Parker, Colorado |
| 19:17.30 | file | Originating location: Denver International Airport |
| 19:17.34 | carpman{mayuka} | Current location of File: Oblivion |
| 19:17.46 | DevGirl | muhawuhuwa |
| 19:17.51 | file | Current location of File: /dev/detonate |
| 19:18.04 | carpman{mayuka} | echo "1" > /dev/detonate |
| 19:19.18 | lalo[out] | what is the name of the college Scanline and others attend to? |
| 19:19.36 | carpman{mayuka} | University of Colorado at Boulder, I believe |
| 19:20.06 | lalo[out] | thx :-) |
| 19:20.15 | carpman{mayuka} | file goes to Detonate University. |
| 19:20.23 | lalo[out] | PuckCh: welcome back, it's great, feel free to commit it |
| 19:20.43 | lalo[out] | hmm, he was never gone, just away :-) silly me |
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| 20:12.17 | PuckCh | lalo[out]: ok. it's commited. |
| 20:12.41 | DevGirl | now lalo's gone :) |
| 20:13.30 | PuckCh | hi DevGirl |
| 20:13.41 | DevGirl | hiya, PuckCh :) |
| 20:32.47 | PuckCh | bye, and good night. |
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| 21:03.38 | carpman{mayuka} | grr! How do I look up a widget in the python client lib |
| 21:03.45 | carpman{mayuka} | look up by name, that is |
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| 21:22.25 | gonkulator | ~seen scanline |
| 21:22.26 | | gonkulator: i haven't seen 'scanline ' |
| 21:22.30 | gonkulator | ~seen scanline |
| 21:22.30 | | scanline is currently on #picogui #elinux #openembedded #bzflag. Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 5h 30m 14s |
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| 23:08.21 | DevGirl | scanline!!!! |
| 23:08.25 | scanline | hi DevGirl :) |
| 23:08.27 | DevGirl | need to talk to you! |
| 23:08.47 | scanline | so you want to bring me to Brazil? :) |
| 23:08.53 | DevGirl | yeah ^^ |
| 23:09.06 | DevGirl | if the event organization have the money |
| 23:09.20 | DevGirl | we said you could talk about games |
| 23:09.39 | scanline | hmm.. I don't really know much about games |
| 23:09.41 | DevGirl | ppl needs someone who talks about game developing in linux |
| 23:11.17 | DevGirl | lalo said you could talk about cross-platform graphic programming, SDL,OpenGL... |
| 23:12.42 | DevGirl | heheheheheheh |
| 23:12.59 | DevGirl | ok ^^ just say no, when the guys invites you ^^ |
| 23:13.33 | scanline | ok. I'm really sorry about that... I'd like to visit you and lalo, but I'd prefer to do it in a more casual way :) |
| 23:13.54 | scanline | when gonkulator and I have the money we could visit |
| 23:14.01 | DevGirl | heheheh :) I think you would do it cause it's free :D |
| 23:14.03 | DevGirl | hehehehehhehe |
| 23:14.05 | DevGirl | ok |
| 23:14.31 | DevGirl | talk about this with lalo :D It was he who suggested your name |
| 23:14.41 | scanline | ok |
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