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| 00:58.50 | Tux889 | hello |
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| 02:05.42 | jimlay | prot-screen: are you picobot? |
| 02:05.42 | jimlay | that looks like a no |
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| 04:10.22 | lurgyman | bored |
| 04:11.24 | lurgyman | hehehe |
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| 05:04.27 | merlin262 | Any ibook owners here? |
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| 06:05.36 | *** topic/#picogui is http://picogui.org || If nobody here answers your question, try the pgui-devel mailing list || The new picogui.org is live! (occasionally) || http://www.cafeshops.com/picogui_store now with the fine picogui merchandise || All the friends of scanline that used to hang out here, please move to #tacobeam |
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| 07:25.48 | invader_zim | merlin262: go to tacobeam |
| 07:29.53 | merlin262 | too late, |
| 07:29.55 | merlin262 | I just bought it |
| 07:29.56 | merlin262 | lol |
| 07:30.24 | merlin262 | I was trying to decide whether or not to go Apple, but I just decided to go for it. :D |
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| 09:58.38 | guido^pe | hi |
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| 13:41.51 | a_squirrel | ibot: seen PicoBot |
| 13:41.51 | | picobot <~PicoBot@ivan.client.mscd.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 20h 3m 4s ago, saying: 'prot-work was last seen on #tacobeam 13 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: yeah - i get off at 11 [Fri Feb 28 04:34:43 2003]'. |
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| 16:23.47 | gonkulator | dead channel! |
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| 19:10.25 | gonkulator | file: #tacobeam |
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| 19:18.39 | Mr_Magnet | hello. |
| 19:18.53 | file | Hi |
| 19:19.00 | Mr_Magnet | is there a list of picogui's supported applications ? |
| 19:19.21 | file | "supported applications"? |
| 19:19.23 | file | what do you mean? |
| 19:19.53 | Mr_Magnet | a list of software that run with picogui, like a file manager, a web browser ,ect ect. |
| 19:20.19 | file | Mr_Magnet: mmm... if it's in the CVS it'll run... but as of yet no |
| 19:20.35 | Mr_Magnet | what do you mean ? |
| 19:21.06 | file | Mr_Magnet: most PicoGUI apps are in the CVS |
| 19:23.07 | Mr_Magnet | oh. |
| 19:23.11 | Mr_Magnet | oki lemme check. |
| 19:30.11 | gonkulator | Mr_Magnet: PicoGUI supports SDL, so if you have anything that runs with SDL, a CVS version of SDL will run it |
| 19:30.36 | gonkulator | Mr_Magnet: PicoGUI has its own API that isn't compatable with anything ATM |
| 19:34.34 | gonkulator | erm... |
| 19:34.40 | gonkulator | SDL has PicoGUI support |
| 19:34.47 | gonkulator | thats the way to say that :) |
| 19:35.00 | gonkulator | PicoGUI also has SDL support |
| 19:35.18 | gonkulator | so you can run PicoGUI inside of PicoGUI inside of PicoGUI.... using SDL |
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| 20:41.50 | gonkulator | hey laodamas |
| 20:41.54 | laodamas | hello |
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| 20:42.17 | gonkulator | laodamas: general CU non PicoGUI discussions have moved to #tacobeam |
| 20:43.28 | *** join/#picogui LoneTech (~yann@h187n1fls34o808.telia.com) |
| 20:43.46 | LoneTech | whoa. lots of people? |
| 20:44.50 | LoneTech | seen scanline? |
| 20:45.06 | LoneTech | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
| 20:45.06 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: just a sec... [Thu Feb 27 19:32:23 2003] |
| 20:45.24 | njs | long sec, that. |
| 20:45.31 | LoneTech | yep. |
| 20:45.39 | LoneTech | I wonder what I said last time |
| 20:45.47 | LoneTech | been a long time since I worked on picogui |
| 20:45.56 | LoneTech | though my latest project should run under picogui. |
| 20:46.23 | *** part/#picogui theoddone33 (theoddone3@gamehenge.icculus.org) |
| 20:46.27 | LoneTech | it's a DjVu viewer for SDL, since I didn't want to port the Qt one for fbcon. |
| 20:47.06 | LoneTech | also thought an sdl version may be easier to port to other systems, such as AROS, but a friend told me they're not too confident in their C++ support yet. |
| 20:48.59 | LoneTech | njs: how are you using picogui? |
| 20:49.42 | njs | LoneTech: I'm not. I work on Fresco, so am interested in how PicoGUI does stuff. |
| 20:49.50 | LoneTech | ok |
| 20:50.06 | LoneTech | Fresco was somewhat similar to Berlin, wasn't it? |
| 20:50.17 | LoneTech | I never looked closely at it |
| 20:50.23 | njs | fairly similar, yes. |
| 20:50.33 | njs | The names are spelled differently, that's the main difference :-) |
| 20:50.50 | LoneTech | you rely on opengl too? |
| 20:50.58 | njs | ( http://www.fresco.org/namechange.html ) |
| 20:51.03 | LoneTech | ah |
| 20:51.48 | njs | Neither Berlin nor Fresco has ever relied on OpenGL. Well, the only implementation of our rendering backend was in opengl for a while, but that was years ago, and even then it was just that no-one had gotten around to writing a different plugin. |
| 20:52.13 | LoneTech | thanks |
| 20:52.38 | LoneTech | I guess I should go look at it again soonish. |
| 20:53.00 | LoneTech | I skip around with strange motivations a lot of the time |
| 20:53.19 | LoneTech | started working on picogui just to write a touchscreen driver, for instance. then the touchscreen broke. |
| 20:54.22 | LoneTech | but I did get around to fixing calibration, sort of. before I did that people used the microwindows thingy. |
| 20:54.42 | njs | nod |
| 20:55.21 | LoneTech | I seem to be awfully bad at finishing my projects though, as you can see in for instance "gridgame". |
| 20:55.45 | LoneTech | it's now merely a demonstration that you can use themes rather than drawing manually like blackout does |
| 20:56.01 | LoneTech | I planned lots of things for it that I never got around to. |
| 21:06.15 | gonkulator | hey LoneTech |
| 21:07.11 | LoneTech | lo gonkulator |
| 21:07.22 | LoneTech | any interesting news? |
| 21:07.41 | gonkulator | but he is being an ass and won't tell anyone about it |
| 21:07.54 | gonkulator | noting new with PicoGUI |
| 21:08.01 | gonkulator | but I have started hacking OpenGL |
| 21:08.26 | njs | gonkulator: ah-hah, then you told us something about jurpa! |
| 21:36.39 | LoneTech | gameboy emulator? |
| 21:37.08 | laodamas | LoneTech: No, the 1995 3d GameBoy |
| 21:37.36 | LoneTech | oh |
| 21:37.40 | LoneTech | not familiar with that |
| 21:40.05 | laodamas | 32bit RISC20mHz Clock speed / 18MIPS1Kbyte instruction cacheVdd = 2.2 - 5.5V DC1Mbyte DRAM 512Kbyte P-SRAM |
| 21:40.13 | laodamas | with a dual RTI display |
| 21:40.34 | LoneTech | sounds neat. |
| 21:54.37 | merlin262 | so, I finally broke down and bought an ibook |
| 21:54.52 | LoneTech | congrats |
| 21:55.00 | LoneTech | I can't afford it :( |
| 21:55.01 | merlin262 | I bought the cheapest one possible, lol |
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| 21:55.08 | merlin262 | the $999 |
| 21:55.11 | gonkulator | merlin262: my iBook broke two times in the last two weeks |
| 21:55.17 | merlin262 | erk |
| 21:55.20 | merlin262 | broke? |
| 21:55.31 | merlin262 | I thought they where relatively well built? |
| 21:55.32 | gonkulator | merlin262: I got it back three days ago, and it broke again last night |
| 21:55.38 | merlin262 | ugghh |
| 21:55.41 | gonkulator | VRAM fried |
| 21:55.45 | merlin262 | ewwwwwwwwww |
| 21:55.49 | merlin262 | how??? |
| 21:56.13 | gonkulator | all I know is that I got it back three days ago, and it died again yesterday |
| 21:56.16 | trippy | Did anybody here hack at the helio in the past? (I'm fairly certain nobody is doing so now...) |
| 21:56.20 | merlin262 | That's the first time I've heard about this type of thing... |
| 21:56.42 | merlin262 | All I'd heard up till now was that they where fairly solid machines |
| 21:56.50 | merlin262 | They look better built than the Dells.... |
| 21:57.17 | LoneTech | never got a Helio. I do have a VR3 though. |
| 21:57.17 | gonkulator | they are good machines |
| 21:57.33 | gonkulator | merlin262: the iBook is a sweet machine. I think I got a lemon |
| 21:58.26 | merlin262 | ok |
| 21:58.44 | merlin262 | the warrenty is pretty good though right? |
| 21:58.48 | merlin262 | gonkulator: what type do you have? |
| 21:58.56 | merlin262 | I got the el' cheapo one |
| 21:59.04 | gonkulator | I have the 800 mHz 12" |
| 21:59.09 | gonkulator | combo drive |
| 21:59.12 | merlin262 | Is it reasonably fast? |
| 21:59.24 | gonkulator | running linux, you better believe it |
| 21:59.29 | merlin262 | Ahhh, good good |
| 21:59.35 | merlin262 | I got the 700Mhz 12" |
| 21:59.37 | gonkulator | OS X is reasonable w/ 640 meg of RAM |
| 21:59.40 | merlin262 | but, I put in extra ram |
| 21:59.48 | merlin262 | but not THAT much |
| 21:59.49 | merlin262 | dayum |
| 21:59.56 | merlin262 | I just got 256MB |
| 22:00.19 | merlin262 | I'm cash strapped, but really need something for classes. |
| 22:00.31 | gonkulator | did you buy apple RAM? |
| 22:00.48 | merlin262 | gonkulator: I bought the ram w/ the machine at apple.com |
| 22:00.54 | merlin262 | I upgraded the ram amnt |
| 22:01.09 | gonkulator | merlin262: you should have talked with me first... |
| 22:01.09 | merlin262 | that bad? |
| 22:01.17 | gonkulator | not bad so much as overly expensive |
| 22:01.33 | merlin262 | the price was about the same as I looked up on pricewatch |
| 22:01.35 | gonkulator | 512 meg iBook upgrade for less than a hundred bucks |
| 22:01.40 | gonkulator | don't look at pricewatch |
| 22:01.56 | merlin262 | dayum |
| 22:01.58 | merlin262 | oh well |
| 22:02.01 | merlin262 | lol |
| 22:02.02 | gonkulator | OWC doesn't register it's prices |
| 22:02.06 | gonkulator | send it back! |
| 22:02.11 | merlin262 | too much trouble |
| 22:02.16 | merlin262 | OWC? |
| 22:02.59 | LoneTech | isn't apple always overly expensive? |
| 22:03.13 | merlin262 | gonkulator: the price from owc still isn't that much different |
| 22:03.21 | LoneTech | I thought the cheapest thing they ever produced was that 486 with the round case. |
| 22:03.33 | gonkulator | heh |
| 22:03.40 | merlin262 | $10? |
| 22:03.42 | merlin262 | *shrugs* |
| 22:03.45 | gonkulator | iPodLC |
| 22:04.05 | LoneTech | nah, I think they called it an access point or something. |
| 22:04.17 | merlin262 | but, this OWC place is nifty |
| 22:05.22 | gonkulator | oh, the Base Station :) |
| 22:05.30 | gonkulator | Airport! |
| 22:05.35 | LoneTech | right, that's it |
| 22:09.24 | merlin262 | hey gonkulator, what's the res on the 12" screen? |
| 22:11.30 | LoneTech | I think mine's a 6.1" |
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| 22:11.57 | LoneTech | hello scanline |
| 22:11.58 | merlin262 | hey scanline, |
| 22:12.05 | LoneTech | ltns |
| 22:12.05 | merlin262 | I just ordered a powerbook. :D |
| 22:12.39 | scanline | hi LoneTech |
| 22:12.40 | scanline | hi merlin262 |
| 22:12.52 | scanline | wow.. why a powerbook? |
| 22:13.26 | merlin262 | er, ibook |
| 22:13.43 | merlin262 | they seem like nice machines |
| 22:15.10 | LoneTech | they are. |
| 22:15.33 | merlin262 | I still haven't decided if I'm going to keep OS-X or not... |
| 22:15.44 | merlin262 | =D |
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| 23:14.04 | gonkulator | merlin262: 1024x768 |
| 23:14.59 | gonkulator | merlin262: all iBooks have a 1024x768 res (except for the old ones which are 800x600 |
| 23:15.08 | merlin262 | gonkulator: that's what I thought |
| 23:15.11 | merlin262 | wanted to make sure. |
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| 23:16.43 | gonkulator | merlin262: the iBook is usually a good machine |
| 23:16.57 | merlin262 | gonkulator: you got me all nervous now |
| 23:16.58 | merlin262 | lol |
| 23:17.39 | gonkulator | merlin262: of everyone I know who has iBooks, I have had the most trouble with them |
| 23:19.00 | merlin262 | lol |
| 23:19.02 | merlin262 | ok ok |
| 23:20.35 | gonkulator | the first one I got is a 500 mHz one like the one carpman, scanline and everyone else has |
| 23:21.05 | gonkulator | and that one went to apple for help twice |
| 23:21.10 | gonkulator | both times for a dead touchpad |
| 23:21.42 | gonkulator | the second one has gone in twice, and today it will go in for a third time |
| 23:21.48 | merlin262 | uggh |
| 23:21.55 | file | gonkulator: estimated time till return? |
| 23:21.57 | merlin262 | did you buy an extended apple warrenty? |
| 23:22.00 | gonkulator | not yet |
| 23:22.02 | gonkulator | but I will :) |
| 23:22.08 | merlin262 | or do you get regular warrenty service? |
| 23:22.12 | merlin262 | how much do they charge? |
| 23:22.46 | gonkulator | its free... |
| 23:22.50 | gonkulator | for the first year |
| 23:22.55 | merlin262 | ahhh, bueno |
| 23:23.01 | gonkulator | but you are out a laptop while they fix it |
| 23:23.36 | gonkulator | anywqay |
| 23:23.45 | gonkulator | first time my second iBook went in, dead hard drive |
| 23:23.59 | merlin262 | do you give your laptops a lot of abuse? |
| 23:24.23 | merlin262 | it appears for the actuall apple hardware, it's a lot better to buy from apple than other places |
| 23:24.35 | gonkulator | second time, screen went out |
| 23:24.43 | gonkulator | third time, vram went to hell |
| 23:25.43 | file | gonkulator: I wonder if the store will say "You again? what did you do this time?" |
| 23:26.09 | file | good |
| 23:26.12 | gonkulator | the old one is missing a foot.... |
| 23:26.17 | file | how long till you go? |
| 23:27.08 | merlin262 | hhmmm,, I worked with carpman's laptop, which is why I decided ot get on |
| 23:27.19 | merlin262 | I thought it would of been faster than a 500Mhz though |
| 23:27.30 | gonkulator | well, its only 200 mHz faster |
| 23:27.44 | gonkulator | of course, the bus speed is 100 mHz instead of 67 mHz |
| 23:27.55 | merlin262 | the 500Mhz Apple felt pretty zippy |
| 23:27.58 | gonkulator | and the battery life KICKS ASS |
| 23:28.32 | gonkulator | you will be happy with your purchase |
| 23:30.16 | merlin262 | gonkulator: do they have built in 100BaseT ethernet? |
| 23:30.31 | gonkulator | yes |
| 23:30.38 | gonkulator | and a built in antenna for airport |
| 23:30.42 | gonkulator | and a built in modem |
| 23:30.46 | gonkulator | and a pair of USB ports |
| 23:30.50 | gonkulator | and a firewire port |
| 23:30.57 | gonkulator | and an external monitor port |
| 23:31.03 | gonkulator | and a power port |
| 23:31.09 | gonkulator | and a headphone port :) |
| 23:31.15 | merlin262 | w00t |
| 23:31.19 | merlin262 | I bought an Airport card w/ it |
| 23:31.43 | merlin262 | that was $170 more |
| 23:31.49 | gonkulator | uh huh |
| 23:31.53 | merlin262 | Plus tax |
| 23:32.00 | merlin262 | This wasn't really in my budget as it was |
| 23:32.06 | gonkulator | ah |
| 23:32.07 | merlin262 | As in REALLY wasn't in my budge |
| 23:32.18 | merlin262 | But, I really really need one for class |
| 23:32.43 | gonkulator | but, when I need it, oh man is it nice :) |
| 23:32.58 | merlin262 | I do everything through ethernet anyway |
| 23:33.11 | merlin262 | But, the dvd-rom would have been nice |
| 23:33.33 | file | my project for march break is build new antennas for my wireless cards' |
| 23:34.23 | merlin262 | ahhh |
| 23:34.37 | merlin262 | hey, I should setup a streaming mp3 server... over my DSL |
| 23:34.38 | merlin262 | mwahahahaha |
| 23:35.09 | gonkulator | it isn't as big as navi (only 240 gig) but I have it filling up with stream rips |
| 23:35.44 | njs | how big is navi, anyway? |
| 23:36.10 | gonkulator | well, it has 645 of storage |
| 23:36.24 | gonkulator | but 600 of it is 5 120 gig disks set up in a raid 5 array |
| 23:36.38 | gonkulator | so thats 480 minus file system overhead |
| 23:36.59 | merlin262 | dear god |
| 23:37.03 | njs | wow |
| 23:37.07 | merlin262 | what do you need that much storage for? |
| 23:37.11 | merlin262 | my file server only has 40gig |
| 23:37.31 | gonkulator | hhmm... |
| 23:37.36 | gonkulator | odd that |
| 23:37.58 | gonkulator | it isn't sending... |
| 23:38.25 | gonkulator | oh |
| 23:38.30 | gonkulator | leading slash... |
| 23:38.37 | gonkulator | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 23:39.12 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.20 | njs | and here I thought I was cool because I have ~200GiB under my desk (over two computers) |
| 23:40.29 | gonkulator | here is the important line from my system at work |
| 23:40.31 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.36 | gonkulator | whoops |
| 23:40.48 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.48 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.50 | gonkulator | anyway, I have two streams ripping right now, and will soon be downloading navi's /public/media/music/ directory |
| 23:48.25 | merlin262 | gonkulator: what's all on this magical navi? |
| 23:48.26 | merlin262 | lol |
| 23:48.47 | file | everything |
| 23:49.53 | gonkulator | merlin262: ask scanline |
| 23:50.06 | merlin262 | the largest pr0n collection known to man. :P |
| 23:50.21 | gonkulator | scanline isn't into that... |
| 23:50.36 | gonkulator | nor would he allow it to be stored on his disks |
| 23:50.52 | merlin262 | Hehe. j/k j/k j/k |
| 23:51.20 | merlin262 | Hey gonkulator, would you be in trouble as a catholic if you where a priest and had a large collection of pr0n? |
| 23:51.27 | merlin262 | (We'll awsome, all legal) |
| 23:51.35 | scanline | movies, anime, backups, sci-fi series... |
| 23:51.35 | merlin262 | s/awsome/assume/ |
| 23:51.48 | scanline | music of course |
| 23:52.02 | merlin262 | 384 Gig is a lot of stuff man |
| 23:52.04 | merlin262 | dayum |
| 23:52.13 | merlin262 | no, I'm serious. |
| 23:52.18 | merlin262 | what would happen to you? |
| 23:52.19 | gonkulator | ok |
| 23:52.21 | gonkulator | here is the deal |
| 23:52.27 | gonkulator | what is porn? |
| 23:52.32 | gonkulator | what does it do to the personality? |
| 23:52.40 | gonkulator | what does it do to one's outlook on women? |
| 23:52.50 | merlin262 | I agree that pr0n is wrong, period, and do not engage in it |
| 23:52.53 | gonkulator | porn wouldn't get me into trouble directly |
| 23:53.07 | gonkulator | but it would most certainly lead to me getting into trouble elsewhere |
| 23:53.11 | merlin262 | Ahh |
| 23:53.19 | gonkulator | it would make me a less effective priest |
| 23:58.54 | merlin262 | wlel, it certainly is quiet in here now |