| 00:06:54 | merlin262 | YES! Thank God for debian! |
| 00:07:09 | kergoth` | hugs apt-get |
| 00:07:11 | file | thanks god for Debian |
| 00:08:22 | Xentac | thanks the developers for Debian. |
| 00:08:34 | Xentac | goes off to his first Judo class now |
| 00:08:36 | Xentac | ta ta |
| 00:09:01 | Xentac | is away: being beat up in a different way |
| 00:17:18 | gonkulator | hi Xentac |
| 00:17:21 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 00:17:22 | gonkulator | darn |
| 00:18:03 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Xentac |
| 00:18:04 | PicoBot | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 9 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying: is away: being beat up in a different way [Mon Oct 7 19:15:34 2002] |
| 00:18:11 | gonkulator | darn... I JUST missed him |
| 00:18:21 | file | welcomes gonkulator back |
| 00:18:25 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 00:18:38 | file | can't sleep, the gremlins will eat me |
| 00:19:16 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 00:19:17 | gonkulator | not quite |
| 00:20:27 | Xentac | gonkulator: I'm here... but for a very short time... |
| 00:20:35 | gonkulator | Xentac: ok |
| 00:20:46 | Xentac | will be leaving extremely soon to his first judo class |
| 00:29:33 | merlin262 | CVS upload has started. =) |
| 00:29:40 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 00:30:23 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen carpman |
| 00:30:23 | PicoBot | carpman was last seen on #picogui 49 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: eww, keep your germs off IRC [Mon Oct 7 18:47:36 2002] |
| 00:35:12 | merlin262 | ok guys, it's up. :) |
| 00:35:41 | merlin262 | oh feck |
| 00:35:48 | merlin262 | ze upload messed up |
| 00:35:50 | merlin262 | Grrrrrrrrrr |
| 00:36:37 | gonkulator | merlin262: that sucks |
| 00:38:19 | merlin262 | you there carpman? |
| 00:53:03 | carpman | back |
| 00:53:12 | merlin262 | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64085&release_id=115091 |
| 00:53:15 | merlin262 | download away |
| 00:53:23 | merlin262 | I've cut some stuff so I could make a download |
| 00:53:29 | merlin262 | but, it SHOULD be playable |
| 00:54:17 | merlin262 | OH FECK |
| 00:54:26 | merlin262 | shoots self |
| 00:54:38 | carpman | eww... cerr, cout, bleh :) |
| 00:54:46 | merlin262 | lol |
| 00:54:49 | merlin262 | did you DL? |
| 00:54:51 | merlin262 | does it work? |
| 00:55:00 | carpman | downloading... |
| 00:55:11 | merlin262 | removes .swp files..... |
| 00:55:13 | merlin262 | Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 00:57:19 | carpman | no sdl installed |
| 00:57:25 | merlin262 | emerge sdl |
| 00:57:28 | merlin262 | emerge sdl-ttf |
| 00:57:29 | merlin262 | lol |
| 00:57:31 | carpman | working on it |
| 00:57:51 | carpman | oh joy, it has to emerge arts |
| 00:58:02 | merlin262 | Ahahahhahahahahha |
| 00:59:11 | carpman | gonkulator: res_c is almost ready. Soon nobody will have excuses not to write apps. |
| 00:59:28 | merlin262 | :evil: |
| 00:59:41 | carpman | merlin262: evil what? |
| 01:00:04 | merlin262 | just :evil: |
| 01:00:05 | merlin262 | =D |
| 01:00:10 | merlin262 | carpman: did you finish the DL? |
| 01:00:13 | carpman | hmmmm |
| 01:00:21 | carpman | merlin262: yes, installing sdl now |
| 01:00:41 | carpman | arts must depend on libslowcompile or something |
| 01:00:48 | merlin262 | lol |
| 01:03:37 | merlin262 | w00t, I've got a release on soruceforge! |
| 01:11:16 | carpman | merlin262: it plays |
| 01:11:28 | carpman | its also evil |
| 01:12:43 | carpman | merlin262: oh this brings back the memories. |
| 01:13:00 | carpman | I dont remember the recoil when shooting tho, is that yours? |
| 01:14:01 | merlin262 | ehhehehehehhe |
| 01:14:05 | merlin262 | liek I said.. some suprises |
| 01:14:05 | merlin262 | =) |
| 01:14:21 | merlin262 | I'm putting in a classic mode to revert all that stuff tho |
| 01:14:25 | carpman | merlin262: the ships are still evil |
| 01:14:30 | merlin262 | lol |
| 01:15:10 | merlin262 | so, it actaully plays? |
| 01:15:13 | merlin262 | i'm mildly suprised |
| 01:15:22 | merlin262 | W()()T! |
| 01:15:35 | carpman | woot, level 2 baby! YEAH! |
| 01:15:46 | carpman | damn |
| 01:15:55 | merlin262 | there's definaetly some polish i need to put on it... |
| 01:16:05 | carpman | I went flying into a wall of tiny asteroids |
| 01:16:10 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 01:16:36 | carpman | oh well. sleep calls me. night all |
| 01:16:43 | merlin262 | night carpman |
| 01:16:43 | merlin262 | =) |
| 01:23:41 | darth_balls | gonkulator: you here? |
| 01:23:56 | darth_balls | PicoBot: seen gonkulator? |
| 01:23:57 | PicoBot | gonkulator was last seen on #picogui 47 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: merlin262: that sucks [Mon Oct 7 19:43:10 2002] |
| 01:24:09 | darth_balls | PicoBot: seen gonkulator{work}? |
| 01:24:10 | PicoBot | gonkulator{work} was last seen on #picogui 8 hours, 8 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: is away: class time [Mon Oct 7 12:22:31 2002] |
| 01:24:21 | merlin262 | thinks everyone diead. :( |
| 01:24:24 | darth_balls | well, when you get back... |
| 01:24:41 | darth_balls | I've gotta go over to lynz to install the netcard |
| 01:24:45 | darth_balls | I'll be back later |
| 01:35:46 | gonkulator | oh, cool |
| 01:35:48 | gonkulator | the card came in |
| 01:35:55 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen darth_balls |
| 01:35:55 | PicoBot | darth_balls was last seen on #picogui 11 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying: I'll be back later [Mon Oct 7 20:31:19 2002] |
| 01:36:02 | gonkulator | and I just missed him... |
| 01:39:54 | gonkulator | hmm.. |
| 01:40:05 | gonkulator | weird how people come in and quit, just that fast... |
| 01:40:12 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 01:40:18 | merlin262 | I've posted a freshemat project now |
| 01:40:24 | gonkulator | cool |
| 01:40:26 | gonkulator | what is it? |
| 01:40:29 | merlin262 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/sdlsas/ |
| 01:40:38 | merlin262 | there should be a .tgz |
| 01:40:43 | merlin262 | you can try it out..... |
| 01:40:44 | merlin262 | =) |
| 01:41:09 | gonkulator | doesn't currently have a working linux installation at home :( |
| 01:41:27 | gonkulator | and I have been too fscking busy with school and work to get it fixed... |
| 01:41:46 | merlin262 | should work under widnows.... in theory |
| 01:41:47 | merlin262 | lol |
| 01:42:00 | gonkulator | I am not going to even try |
| 01:42:06 | merlin262 | don't blame you |
| 01:42:06 | merlin262 | lol |
| 01:42:08 | gonkulator | I don't have a compiler on this windows install |
| 01:42:14 | gonkulator | just games |
| 01:42:31 | gonkulator | killing time (and bots) is all windows is good for anyway |
| 01:42:34 | gonkulator | hey captain_proton |
| 01:42:35 | merlin262 | IT'S ALLIIVEEEEE |
| 01:42:38 | captain_proton | 'lo |
| 01:45:23 | merlin262 | hi captain_proton |
| 01:50:33 | gonkulator | is still hungry for something |
| 01:50:44 | gonkulator | gets some salid and itialian dressing |
| 02:18:38 | AthUser | gonkulator: you round? |
| 02:24:43 | merlin262 | he's getting some food |
| 02:24:43 | merlin262 | =) |
| 02:27:56 | AthUser | he needs to be back |
| 02:29:53 | darth_balls | there |
| 02:52:05 | darth_balls | anyone here? |
| 03:11:00 | AthUser | anyone here? |
| 03:22:24 | gonkulator | hello |
| 03:22:28 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen AthUser |
| 03:22:28 | PicoBot | AthUser was last seen on #picogui 11 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: anyone here? [Mon Oct 7 22:17:35 2002] |
| 03:22:45 | gonkulator | pokes darth_balls |
| 03:44:41 | Xentac | returnths. |
| 03:44:43 | Xentac | is back (gone 03:35:42) |
| 03:44:48 | gonkulator | hi Xentac |
| 03:45:19 | Xentac | hey |
| 04:20:20 | gonkulator | is away: sleepy time |
| 04:41:08 | scanline | is back (gone 08:45:52) |
| 04:44:19 | scanline | should probably take a shower now |
| 05:17:55 | darth_balls | is anyone here?? |
| 05:17:59 | kergoth` | no |
| 05:18:00 | darth_balls | I got a really dumb question |
| 05:18:09 | darth_balls | how do I launche KDE from the command line? |
| 05:18:15 | darth_balls | (redhat 7.3) |
| 05:18:25 | kergoth` | assuming you're already in X? generally its 'startkde' |
| 05:18:45 | kergoth` | if you're not in X, you'll probably want to add 'startkde' to your .xinitrc and run startx |
| 05:19:51 | darth_balls | thanx kergoth` |
| 05:19:53 | darth_balls | I appreciate it |
| 05:19:59 | kergoth` | np |
| 05:20:03 | darth_balls | I just finished building this machine and installing linux WOOT! |
| 05:20:05 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 05:20:08 | darth_balls | is very very happy |
| 05:20:10 | kergoth` | congrats |
| 05:23:56 | darth_balls | haha, this is great |
| 05:48:14 | Hyperman | Hi all |
| 06:00:21 | Hyperman | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 06:00:21 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #openzaurus 49 minutes and 48 seconds ago, saying: kergoth`: my only complaint about bk besides the license is that it's slow :) [Tue Oct 8 00:17:07 2002] |
| 06:04:29 | scanline | hi Hyperman |
| 06:04:49 | captain_proton | scanline: my coworkers turned me on to the coolest band |
| 06:05:03 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:05:55 | captain_proton | want me to scp it to navi? |
| 06:05:59 | scanline | sure |
| 06:07:16 | captain_proton | /navi/jupiter/... |
| 06:07:19 | captain_proton | listen to robot trouble |
| 06:07:27 | scanline | oh.. this is Barcelona? |
| 06:07:32 | captain_proton | yaya |
| 06:07:37 | scanline | already know about them :) |
| 06:07:41 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:07:48 | scanline | I like 'em too |
| 06:10:05 | scanline | hmm.. you have a lot more Barcelona than I did though :) |
| 06:10:44 | captain_proton | thanks to the goons at work <grin> |
| 06:11:03 | scanline | most of the Robot Trouble album is available for free on their web site |
| 06:18:39 | captain_proton | mah parents say my robot's trouble |
| 06:19:01 | scanline | captain_proton: I first heard about Barcelona on WOPN |
| 06:19:10 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 06:19:15 | scanline | WOPN is neat |
| 06:19:44 | captain_proton | i found a copy of 'shell account' in my unfiled mp3s directory, mentioned it at work and of course they had all the albums in someone's homedir |
| 06:19:59 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:21:04 | captain_proton | should run a streaming station just for all his friends |
| 06:21:55 | captain_proton | there's a bunch of other stuff i zipped down from work and have yet to listen to :) |
| 06:23:11 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 06:23:17 | captain_proton | my file server's gonna own yours |
| 06:23:53 | scanline | c4pt47n_pr0t0n |
| 06:24:59 | c4pt47n_pr0t0n | it looks like i'm gonna start out with around 15-20 disks, glommed over LVM |
| 06:25:07 | c4pt47n_pr0t0n | so i can add/subtract disks at will |
| 06:25:25 | captain_proton | ooop |
| 06:26:06 | captain_proton | 'twill be a monster :) |
| 06:26:51 | captain_proton | is away: showertime |
| 06:40:00 | Hyperman | Hi scanline, I currently work on encoding... (unicode, utf-8) |
| 06:41:05 | Hyperman | Seems that PicoGUI fully support this, no? (if we have the good font) |
| 06:41:17 | scanline | yep |
| 06:41:35 | scanline | the 'pgstring' object handles the string encoding itself, and the font code handles unicode fonts fine |
| 06:41:59 | Hyperman | Excellent! |
| 06:42:10 | scanline | It doesn't yet automatically find a font that has the characters you want, or handle combining characters or right-to-left text yet |
| 06:43:39 | Hyperman | Ok, right-to-left text isn't yet in the mind... ouf..pff ;) |
| 06:44:12 | scanline | ok :) |
| 06:44:33 | Hyperman | I think I will define new fonts that include unicode characters for european languages at least |
| 06:44:40 | scanline | ok |
| 06:44:55 | captain_proton | is back (gone 00:18:04) |
| 06:44:59 | Hyperman | And certainly I had to had support for unicode in the textedit widget ... |
| 06:45:08 | Hyperman | to add |
| 06:45:23 | scanline | just FYI, I'd like to redo the font code in pgserver soon to support other backends, like antialiased prerendered text or Freetype |
| 06:45:37 | scanline | but it will still support BDF fonts |
| 06:45:47 | scanline | Ah yeah, textedit doesn't handle unicode yet... |
| 06:46:04 | scanline | textbox handles unicode I think, but it still has too many bugs to be usable |
| 06:46:40 | Hyperman | I don't know how hard it will be to add unicode support in textedit... |
| 06:47:17 | scanline | IIRC Chuck didn't design its text buffers with unicode in mind, so it might not be possible without a lot of changes |
| 06:47:26 | scanline | you should email him on that |
| 06:47:31 | Hyperman | Ok, for the font, it won't be 'lost job' to make some BDF ones |
| 06:47:45 | scanline | definitely not, the new font code will be a superset of what picogui has now |
| 06:51:10 | Hyperman | yes, I think your remember right... I will contact him... |
| 06:51:18 | Hyperman | Thanks for the tips. |
| 06:51:59 | scanline | no problem |
| 08:05:53 | scanline | PicoBot: picogui protocol is at http://picogui.org/doc/pgui-protocol/pgui-protocol.html |
| 08:05:54 | PicoBot | OK, scanline. |
| 09:00:21 | file | mmm |
| 09:51:09 | file | pokes anonyman |
| 09:51:33 | file | disappears |
| 11:16:59 | carpman | morning all |
| 11:17:21 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 11:17:38 | scanline | my head is about to explode, but it's worth it for gnuboy :) |
| 11:19:12 | carpman | scanline: res_c is almost ready to go. |
| 11:19:30 | scanline | feel free to check it into CVS :) |
| 11:19:45 | carpman | np, as soon as I get the last functions in and it compiles. |
| 11:20:01 | carpman | Which will probably be right after breakfast. |
| 11:20:03 | scanline | I thought I'd try improving the SDL backend for picogui, particularly so it works on rotated displays and can handle multithreaded clients |
| 11:20:38 | scanline | but the clipping function for this rotateblit primitive is being a bitch |
| 11:20:51 | carpman | I've got it set up to mmap resources, and hand back a void ptr and size, for feeding into pgfrommem |
| 11:21:16 | scanline | how about a pgFromResource? |
| 11:21:28 | carpman | that would tie cli_c to res_c |
| 11:21:57 | scanline | maybe there's a way around that |
| 11:22:44 | scanline | the structure returned by the pgFrom* functions is pretty simple, you could have a res_c function to return one |
| 11:23:03 | carpman | I don't want to put any picogui specific stuff in res_c |
| 11:23:14 | scanline | k |
| 11:23:33 | carpman | right now, its simple enough for alot of things to use. |
| 11:23:51 | carpman | like SDL sasteroids :) |
| 11:24:03 | scanline | speaking of SDL... |
| 11:24:23 | scanline | one of the things I'm going to add to SDL is a way to get the picogui handles of all the widgets the SDL backend allocates |
| 11:24:34 | scanline | this will make it possible to add picogui UIs onto existing SDL apps easily |
| 11:24:52 | scanline | like file and configuration menus for gnuboy |
| 11:24:56 | carpman | cool |
| 11:25:48 | carpman | hmm... how about a compile time option for res_c where you could specify the inclusion of a picogui interface |
| 11:25:57 | scanline | nods |
| 11:26:03 | scanline | it would make things a lot more convenient... |
| 11:26:16 | scanline | like pgLoadTheme(pgFromResource("my_theme")); |
| 11:26:20 | carpman | right |
| 11:26:37 | scanline | or I guess it would be resFromResource(); |
| 11:26:46 | carpman | no, pgFromResource |
| 11:26:54 | carpman | since its a picogui specific function |
| 11:26:57 | scanline | k |
| 11:27:33 | carpman | I can also store configuration data in the app.conf with this |
| 11:27:38 | carpman | its mininally difficult. |
| 11:27:49 | carpman | minimally |
| 11:27:50 | scanline | It might make sense (in cli_c2?) to move all the pgFrom* stuff to res_c, and give cli_c2 a way to copy directly from a file's file descriptor to pgserver's socket |
| 11:28:11 | carpman | yeha |
| 11:28:11 | scanline | carpman: config data shouldn't go in app.conf |
| 11:28:20 | scanline | app.conf will be read-only for the user |
| 11:28:24 | scanline | config data goes in the home directory |
| 11:28:29 | carpman | oh |
| 11:28:30 | carpman | right |
| 11:28:32 | carpman | DOH |
| 11:28:58 | scanline | hmm.. problem? |
| 11:29:00 | carpman | no |
| 11:29:16 | carpman | I just forgot about that problem, I feel silly |
| 11:29:23 | scanline | oh, ok :) |
| 11:29:44 | scanline | feels silly when pgserver segfaults every other time he runs it |
| 11:29:55 | carpman | well, I'm still going to include the functions for writing, we need those for the resource builder. |
| 11:30:02 | scanline | yep |
| 11:30:21 | carpman | and to make whoever decides to be brave enough to do ELF vomit. |
| 11:30:38 | scanline | haha |
| 11:31:07 | scanline | the ELF stuff is relatively low priority compared to most other things |
| 11:31:17 | carpman | yeah, I'll be happy with app.conf |
| 11:31:28 | scanline | things like a fully working terminal, NIFTY, and a PIM :) |
| 11:31:53 | carpman | nobody will have an excuse not to write an app soon. res_c and fully working textbox. |
| 11:32:03 | carpman | Let the conquest of Opie/Qtopia BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:32:07 | scanline | :) |
| 11:32:15 | scanline | and mostly working OZ packages |
| 11:32:21 | scanline | and a spiffy theme |
| 11:32:33 | scanline | we still need a better launcher |
| 11:32:52 | carpman | this code will improve pgl-launcher alot |
| 11:33:04 | carpman | no more pgoLL |
| 11:33:08 | scanline | a launcher menu is good, but it needs to support submenus for categorizing apps. a fullscreen app launcher is necessary too, IMHO |
| 11:33:21 | carpman | submenus are easy too |
| 11:33:30 | scanline | carpman: yeah, you should see the mess I use to set up PGL in the OZ packages :) |
| 11:33:38 | carpman | just subdirectories off of the main one. |
| 11:33:58 | carpman | scanline: I did, I spent half of calculus yesterday trying to get pgserver to run :) |
| 11:34:08 | scanline | haha.. it didn't run right away? |
| 11:34:12 | carpman | no |
| 11:34:18 | carpman | it just sat there |
| 11:34:20 | scanline | hmm.. what was wrong with the packages? |
| 11:34:27 | scanline | I should try it on a clean OZ install |
| 11:34:31 | scanline | did you install the pg-base package too? |
| 11:34:31 | carpman | I dont know, class ended :) |
| 11:34:36 | carpman | scanline: indeed |
| 11:34:42 | scanline | hmmkay... |
| 11:35:08 | scanline | pg-base has pgserver.conf and toolbar.conf, since they depend on multiple other packages |
| 11:35:45 | carpman | toolbar.conf will soon become ~/.picogui/toolbar.conf |
| 11:36:02 | carpman | it will be auto-generated too |
| 11:36:04 | scanline | nods.. it also shouldn't be mandatory |
| 11:36:28 | carpman | not mandatory? |
| 11:36:39 | scanline | I'd like to optimally just be able to install the pgserver binary, all the apps (already packaged) into /usr/share/picogui/apps, and write a pgserver.conf.. and have it work |
| 11:36:46 | carpman | yeah |
| 11:36:55 | carpman | thats what the auto-generation is for |
| 11:36:56 | scanline | the pgserver.conf is necessary for hardware-specific settings |
| 11:36:59 | scanline | cool |
| 11:37:57 | scanline | eventually we'll need a theme manager app and some more PGL applets too |
| 11:38:11 | scanline | The theme manager app depends on widget templates and theme tags |
| 11:39:19 | carpman | we need some configurator apps, for stuff like networking and wireless |
| 11:39:33 | scanline | yep |
| 11:39:45 | scanline | hardly anything needs to be zaurus-specific, or even PDA-specific |
| 11:39:57 | scanline | the battery monitor applet can be APM |
| 11:40:07 | carpman | actually, I would like just one app, with something like little sripts that it builds the UI and knows how to edit the file from. |
| 11:40:08 | scanline | I think the zaurus uses the standard sound mixer |
| 11:40:21 | scanline | carpman: maybe that's a job for python? |
| 11:40:26 | carpman | scanline: indeed. |
| 11:40:35 | scanline | there's no python openzaurus package yet |
| 11:40:40 | carpman | yet |
| 11:40:44 | scanline | yep |
| 11:40:45 | scanline | hmm.... |
| 11:40:54 | scanline | it would be really cool to have pgl applets written in python |
| 11:40:54 | carpman | python is essential, its like a perl that works right. |
| 11:41:10 | scanline | carpman: it might make sense to just write all of pgl in python :) |
| 11:41:36 | scanline | it'd be much better at handling config files and such |
| 11:41:44 | carpman | we can do python applets, but I would prefer the core applets stay C, because not everything can do python |
| 11:41:50 | scanline | nods |
| 11:42:24 | carpman | scanline: did kergoth do the bk sync? |
| 11:42:29 | scanline | That's one of the good things about keeping cli_c and res_c separate though, things like res_c and PGL can have a different range of scalability than the rest of picogui |
| 11:42:33 | scanline | carpman: I dunno |
| 11:42:41 | carpman | checks |
| 11:42:55 | scanline | scummvm is the latest package I added |
| 11:43:05 | carpman | nope |
| 11:43:40 | carpman | pokes kergoth with the stick of bk-synciness. |
| 11:44:25 | scanline | notices kergoth has already been poked with the stick of nonawakeness |
| 11:44:35 | carpman | stallman help me, I'm almost ready to install bk... |
| 11:44:53 | scanline | carpman: It's a tradeoff I guess... there's no reason pgl-toolbar can't be in C, since with pgres in full effect it shouldn't be anything other than a container |
| 11:44:56 | scanline | oh, that reminds me |
| 11:45:09 | scanline | right now pgl-toolbar adds apps in pretty much random order |
| 11:45:13 | scanline | there's an easy way to fix that |
| 11:45:23 | carpman | scanline: I put the scrollbox in, btw. |
| 11:45:33 | scanline | looks |
| 11:45:37 | carpman | not in cvs |
| 11:45:41 | scanline | ah |
| 11:45:49 | scanline | you used a scrollbox widget? |
| 11:45:54 | carpman | I had a weird problem with the apps looking weird after they scroll |
| 11:45:55 | carpman | yes |
| 11:46:05 | scanline | no need to use a scrollbox |
| 11:46:10 | scanline | ah.. what theme? |
| 11:46:15 | carpman | nifty3d |
| 11:46:24 | scanline | that's a gradient clipping bug |
| 11:46:29 | scanline | in any other theme it should look fine |
| 11:46:29 | carpman | ah, thats it |
| 11:47:00 | scanline | until recently tileblit had the same problem, so aqua and fluidity would have too |
| 11:47:04 | scanline | but I fixed that a couple days ago |
| 11:47:42 | scanline | breaks down and adds a rotation matrix structure to video.h |
| 11:48:00 | scanline | hehe |
| 11:48:07 | carpman | hi fraggle :) |
| 11:48:15 | carpman | err, fragglet |
| 11:48:23 | fragglet | hihi |
| 11:48:28 | fragglet | there are two mes |
| 11:48:36 | scanline | I was in #gaim the other day and someone there had the nick Fraggle... |
| 11:48:42 | fragglet | heh yeah |
| 11:48:46 | fragglet | then i nickkilled him |
| 11:48:54 | carpman | fragglet: it seems your leading... two lives... |
| 11:48:59 | scanline | I figured it wasn't you, since he was acting like a jerk :) |
| 11:49:17 | scanline | hands fraggle a red pill |
| 11:49:24 | scanline | hands fragglet a blue pill |
| 11:49:26 | fragglet | o_O |
| 11:49:37 | fragglet | whee |
| 11:50:13 | scanline | thinks, grumbles, and gets a drink |
| 11:50:30 | scanline | It's odd having to think about things being rotated so much.. |
| 11:51:01 | carpman | brb, breakfast |
| 11:52:09 | scanline | Usually when there are three bugs all working in different coordinate systems it's enough to confuse me |
| 11:52:54 | scanline | carpman: I looked at PyQt just for kicks... it reeks of wrapperism :) |
| 11:57:21 | carpman | back |
| 11:57:22 | carpman | scanline: hehe |
| 12:00:44 | scanline | makes himself dizzy trying to play Zelda upside down |
| 12:01:59 | scanline | at least the arrow keys are right-side up |
| 12:06:52 | merlin262 | tooo early |
| 12:07:36 | carpman | morning merlin262 |
| 12:09:14 | merlin262 | W()()T! I'm on freshmeat's frontpage |
| 12:10:30 | scanline | that's not hard to do :) |
| 12:11:05 | merlin262 | blehhhh |
| 12:11:07 | merlin262 | slaps scanline |
| 12:11:19 | merlin262 | ruining my fun |
| 12:11:22 | scanline | hehe |
| 12:13:01 | merlin262 | scanline: you have a linux system running right now? |
| 12:13:14 | scanline | yeah |
| 12:13:24 | merlin262 | could you give my latest project a test run? |
| 12:13:25 | merlin262 | lol |
| 12:13:30 | scanline | already am |
| 12:13:35 | merlin262 | lol |
| 12:13:55 | scanline | how do you turn off this double-size mode? |
| 12:14:00 | carpman | yay, now I need to put a build system on this thing. |
| 12:14:06 | merlin262 | I'm working on making that configurable right now. =) |
| 12:14:51 | scanline | this is neat |
| 12:14:54 | scanline | original game, or a port? |
| 12:15:02 | merlin262 | a bit of both |
| 12:15:13 | merlin262 | it was released for linux in 1994 |
| 12:15:25 | merlin262 | it's one of the first(if not the first) graphical games for linud |
| 12:15:29 | merlin262 | s/linud/linux/ |
| 12:18:03 | scanline | holy cow... |
| 12:18:08 | scanline | this game is really hard to play upsidedown |
| 12:18:16 | merlin262 | lol |
| 12:18:42 | scanline | hmm.. it just blits the entire screen each frame instead of the moving pieces |
| 12:19:11 | merlin262 | yeah |
| 12:19:16 | merlin262 | I was lazy. =D |
| 12:19:40 | merlin262 | Loonnngggg todo list. |
| 12:20:10 | merlin262 | should be done this weekend. |
| 12:20:12 | merlin262 | lol |
| 12:21:40 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/sdl_sasteroids.png |
| 12:21:57 | merlin262 | OMFG |
| 12:22:14 | merlin262 | I'll see what I can't do to make it scalable scanling |
| 12:22:18 | scanline | hehe |
| 12:22:20 | merlin262 | i wanted to have a port for PDA's |
| 12:22:53 | scanline | that's just a 240x320 pgserver window on my desktop, I haven't tried cross-compiling it yet |
| 12:23:10 | merlin262 | I imagine there will be problems |
| 12:23:18 | scanline | tries it |
| 12:23:20 | merlin262 | 1.) floating point math. 2.) floating point math. 3.) floating point math |
| 12:23:34 | scanline | doesn't mean it won't work |
| 12:23:55 | merlin262 | tr00, |
| 12:24:03 | merlin262 | but I'll need to redo the timer system for it to play properly. |
| 12:24:07 | merlin262 | shoots SDL_Timer |
| 12:24:55 | merlin262 | scanline: do PDA's running linux have getitimer? |
| 12:25:13 | scanline | I don't see why not |
| 12:25:28 | merlin262 | thinks he'll switch to that. |
| 12:25:50 | scanline | is there an easy way to disable scaling? |
| 12:26:14 | merlin262 | unfortunately no, you'd have to go through and change all the *2's to not exist |
| 12:26:22 | scanline | ah.. I'll wait then :) |
| 12:26:32 | merlin262 | ask me this weekend. ;) |
| 12:27:03 | merlin262 | gotta get to class, bbiab. :) |
| 12:27:06 | scanline | goes back to using gnuboy to test his sdl code |
| 12:27:08 | scanline | bye |
| 12:27:14 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 12:30:01 | carpman | scanline: w00t! |
| 12:30:07 | scanline | hmm? |
| 12:30:14 | carpman | scanline: SDL sasteroids |
| 12:30:15 | scanline | w00t w00t wh4t? |
| 12:30:17 | scanline | ah |
| 12:58:45 | carpman | yay, I think I got the build system to work. |
| 12:58:57 | scanline | good |
| 12:59:42 | scanline | finds printf and CTRL-ALT-P to be a life saver |
| 13:25:39 | scanline | is away: breakfast |
| 13:32:02 | carpman | morning kergoth |
| 13:32:04 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 13:32:16 | kergoth | hey |
| 13:32:17 | kergoth | how goes it |
| 13:32:18 | prpplague | kergoth: are you as tired as i am this morning |
| 13:32:21 | kergoth | oh yeah |
| 13:32:24 | kergoth | barely conscious |
| 13:32:38 | kergoth | being awake is overrated |
| 13:32:39 | kergoth | yawns |
| 13:32:52 | prpplague | speaking of yawns |
| 13:32:57 | prpplague | needs to coffee |
| 13:43:52 | carpman | you know its early when you make coffee a verb. :) |
| 13:44:02 | scanline | is back (gone 00:18:24) |
| 13:44:08 | scanline | I just breakfasted and pepsied.. I'll coffee soon |
| 13:44:10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 13:44:12 | kergoth | hey scanline |
| 13:44:14 | scanline | hiya kergoth |
| 13:44:25 | kergoth | i think i'll dew soon, rather than coffee today |
| 13:44:36 | scanline | I miss dew.. haven't had any around in a while |
| 13:44:46 | scanline | but I still have a fridge full of red bull :) |
| 13:44:46 | kergoth | sounds good |
| 13:44:49 | kergoth | when you hvaent had it in a long time |
| 13:44:52 | kergoth | its really fucking good |
| 13:44:55 | kergoth | heh |
| 13:44:57 | scanline | :) |
| 13:51:45 | prpplague | anyone familiar with the dwl-520 pci 802.11b card? |
| 13:53:42 | Xentac | prpplague: that's not the pci->pcmcia card + a wireless pcmcia card, is it? |
| 13:56:55 | prpplague | Xentac: negative, prism2 pci card 802.11b |
| 13:57:04 | Xentac | oh, then no |
| 13:57:27 | prpplague | Xentac: the card seems to work fine, but it won't connect to my linksys ap |
| 13:57:35 | prpplague | Xentac: even under winblows |
| 13:59:15 | Xentac | funky... |
| 13:59:44 | Xentac | goes to work now. |
| 13:59:46 | Xentac | is away: working |
| 14:11:47 | carpman | They put up a techno station here in Dallas. |
| 14:12:12 | carpman | they play some party music, but they play alot of good techno. |
| 14:12:54 | kergoth | carpman: nice. |
| 14:13:04 | kergoth | we dont have a single techno station out here |
| 14:13:14 | carpman | and they play songs in 20k song sets. |
| 14:13:26 | gonkulator{work} | is back (gone 20:58:39) |
| 14:13:28 | gonkulator{work} | hi carpman |
| 14:13:28 | carpman | lietealy |
| 14:13:32 | carpman | hi gonkulator{work} |
| 14:13:33 | gonkulator{work} | hi kergoth |
| 14:13:48 | carpman | s/lietealy/literally |
| 14:14:14 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: one of my officemates just loves hard house... |
| 14:14:18 | gonkulator{work} | I am going to go insane here |
| 14:14:25 | carpman | gonkulator{work}: B.O.F.H time... |
| 14:14:34 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: my thoughts exactly |
| 14:14:54 | carpman | Nobody says it better.... |
| 14:15:04 | carpman | "I DESPISE House." - Glitch |
| 14:17:39 | gonkulator{work} | too much base and not enough melody |
| 14:17:53 | gonkulator{work} | but that is just my feeling on the subject |
| 14:18:01 | kergoth | listens to everything. |
| 14:19:04 | gonkulator{work} | listens to everything except country, house and rap |
| 14:20:49 | carpman | hehe, 106.7 keeps playing this blurb that says "We promise not to subject you to Britney Spears, Country, or Gangsta Rap." |
| 14:20:56 | kergoth | hah |
| 14:21:07 | kergoth | my music depends on my mood |
| 14:21:16 | kergoth | this morning its industrial. wumpscut. frontline assembly. NIN. |
| 14:21:23 | kergoth | last night it was gangsta rap |
| 14:21:24 | kergoth | :) |
| 14:21:24 | carpman | mmm... indistrial. |
| 14:21:34 | carpman | kergoth: listen to Gravity Kills? |
| 14:21:41 | kergoth | carpman: yes, good stuff |
| 14:21:47 | carpman | >:) |
| 14:22:25 | gonkulator{work} | has a sudden urge for VNVNation |
| 14:23:03 | scanline | kergoth: hmm... pgserver's failing when I turn on VT switching, it can't open /dev/tty0 to figure out what VT it's on |
| 14:23:12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 14:23:26 | scanline | I guess I'll just make it not puke when that fails, and see what happens after that :) |
| 14:23:45 | kergoth | tty0 exists, should have correct permissions, i dont get it |
| 14:23:45 | kergoth | heh |
| 14:23:59 | scanline | prolly a bug in pgserver |
| 14:24:04 | scanline | gets a can of RAID |
| 14:24:15 | scanline | this has worked fine on the desktop though |
| 14:24:24 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 14:24:54 | scanline | hmm.. is there a command line program to get the vt out of rawmode? |
| 14:25:10 | scanline | when I kill opie it always leaves it in rawmode, so I can't use the local console |
| 14:25:29 | kergoth | hm, good question |
| 14:25:57 | carpman | kergoth: btw, bk sync to CVS soon |
| 14:25:58 | carpman | ? |
| 14:26:26 | kergoth | ah, yes |
| 14:26:30 | kergoth | ill do that tdoay |
| 14:26:32 | kergoth | today too |
| 14:26:34 | carpman | k, thanks |
| 14:48:32 | carpman | pgl-launcher is so much cleaner with res_c |
| 14:49:04 | kergoth | whats res_c? |
| 14:49:06 | kergoth | is out of the loop |
| 14:49:27 | carpman | kergoth: resource management library |
| 14:49:48 | kergoth | what sort of resources? images and the like? |
| 14:50:03 | carpman | kergoth: yeah |
| 14:50:22 | carpman | it also has the exe name an options to be given when that app is run. |
| 14:50:34 | kergoth | nifty. |
| 15:02:25 | kergoth | mm oakenfold |
| 15:02:40 | scanline | craves oakenfold! |
| 15:02:50 | scanline | takes kergoth's oakenfold and mountain dew |
| 15:03:04 | carpman | lol |
| 15:03:04 | scanline | oh wait, I have my own oakenfold... |
| 15:03:04 | kergoth | bastard! |
| 15:03:04 | scanline | gets a glass of water |
| 15:03:09 | carpman | scanline: dont do that, you'll make kergoth cry! |
| 15:03:19 | kergoth | slips a throwing knife out a sleeve. no one takes my dew and oakenfold! |
| 15:03:30 | scanline | gives kergoth back his oakenfold plus some extra, and gives back (almost) all the dew |
| 15:03:50 | kergoth | if theres backwash in that dew, i'll kill you |
| 15:03:51 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:04:20 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:04:43 | carpman | kergoth: if you kill scanline, nobody will understand pgserver :) |
| 15:04:51 | kergoth | haha, true that |
| 15:05:01 | scanline | carpman: I guess that implies that I understand it? ;) |
| 15:05:12 | carpman | scanline: realtively :) |
| 15:05:20 | scanline | :) |
| 15:05:33 | scanline | It desparately needs docs... |
| 15:05:42 | carpman | wow! |
| 15:05:55 | carpman | I can kill about 20 lines in one function with res_c |
| 15:05:59 | carpman | err... in pgl-launcher |
| 15:06:01 | scanline | I found some wierd mistakes in the textedit widget that were obviously due to misunderstanding how things work in pgserver |
| 15:06:08 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks again for the help last night, i promise once i get bk procedures down, i won't pester you anymore |
| 15:06:20 | kergoth | prpplague: np :) its a slightly different way of thinking |
| 15:06:35 | kergoth | prpplague: oh fyi, bitkeeper.com. docs section. theres a one page, front & back, quick reference. print it out. |
| 15:09:38 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: who wrote the textedit widget? |
| 15:09:50 | prpplague | kergoth: cool thanks |
| 15:10:10 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: Chuck |
| 15:10:19 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: oh, ok |
| 15:10:21 | prpplague | kergoth: funny thing, when i went to OLS this year i was seat right behind larry on the airplane |
| 15:10:31 | kergoth | prpplague: hah |
| 15:10:34 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: I finally got around to watching Cast Away |
| 15:10:41 | gonkulator{work} | it is a really good movie |
| 15:10:50 | gonkulator{work} | cinematically, it plays with a lot of things that are good to play with |
| 15:10:55 | carpman | I've now read a good bit of Sluggy Freelance. |
| 15:11:00 | prpplague | gonkulator{work}: ya he did everything wrong at first |
| 15:11:01 | carpman | CROTCH! |
| 15:11:35 | prpplague | gonkulator{work}: i still get the shivers thinking about him fixing his tooth |
| 15:12:00 | prpplague | kergoth: i'll get that sshv1 key to you this evening |
| 15:12:42 | kergoth | prpplague: k |
| 15:13:16 | gonkulator{work} | prpplague: yeah, how he fixed his tooth is how I debug code ;) |
| 15:14:52 | prpplague | gonkulator{work}: lol, ya i'm a big fan of - printf(stderr,"got to this debug point!"); |
| 15:15:30 | carpman | prpplague: ah, I've debuged so much stuff with that :) |
| 15:16:02 | prpplague | s/print/sprintf |
| 15:19:15 | scanline | usually uses printf("moo!\n"); or printf("fromage!\n"); |
| 15:20:22 | carpman | hmm... debug point fromage |
| 15:26:33 | prpplague | anyone ever find the init easter egg in rhat 6.2 and below besides me? |
| 15:27:15 | scanline | hasn't used redhat in quite a while |
| 15:27:49 | prpplague | scanline: actually i think it was part of the sysvinit package for awhile |
| 15:28:27 | prpplague | scanline: if you are loged in a tyler and issue a shutdown command you get a prompt that says "why hello mr.tyler! going down?" |
| 15:28:50 | scanline | oh yeah! hadn't seen that myself, but I saw it mentioned before |
| 15:29:20 | prpplague | scanline: ya well a customer just called wanting to know what that meant, lol |
| 15:29:29 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:50:47 | carpman | weird, I can't link if I specify -d |
| 15:51:08 | carpman | DOH |
| 15:51:11 | carpman | wrong option |
| 16:07:11 | carpman | woah |
| 16:07:33 | carpman | using PG_WIDGET_LABEL causes pgserver to crash |
| 16:07:47 | scanline | huh? |
| 16:07:56 | carpman | pgNewWidget(PG_WIDGET_LABEL, PG_DERIVE_INSIDE, optionBox); |
| 16:07:56 | carpman | pgSetWidget(PGDEFAULT, |
| 16:07:56 | carpman | PG_WP_TEXT, pgNewString("App path:"), |
| 16:07:56 | carpman | 0); |
| 16:08:11 | scanline | where is pgserver crashing? |
| 16:08:14 | carpman | it go kaboom there |
| 16:14:18 | scanline | carpman: I'm also working on a newer SDL backend for picogui, that handles rotation, centering, scaling, picogui UI elemements in SDL, and multithreading |
| 16:14:31 | scanline | I wonder if there's a VNC client written with SDL :) |
| 16:16:04 | scanline | might want to ASM-optimize the new blits eventually |
| 16:16:13 | scanline | merlin262: do you know ARM assembly, or am I thinking of someone different? |
| 16:20:46 | carpman | hmm... res_c directory scan seems to work |
| 16:51:47 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 16:51:48 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #openzaurus 3 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: hehe [Tue Oct 8 11:54:44 2002] |
| 16:52:02 | carpman | wow, its 1pm |
| 16:52:10 | gonkey{iBook} | yeah |
| 16:52:12 | scanline | hi gonkey{iBook} |
| 16:52:13 | gonkey{iBook} | late huh? |
| 16:52:15 | gonkey{iBook} | hi scanline |
| 16:52:21 | carpman | I could use some food. |
| 16:52:30 | carpman | though it was about 11pm |
| 16:52:30 | gonkey{iBook} | is tired of food |
| 16:52:32 | gonkey{iBook} | food is over rated |
| 16:52:40 | carpman | err, 11am |
| 16:53:51 | gonkey{iBook} | yeah, kinda late |
| 16:54:23 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: tell scanline about cheese |
| 16:54:41 | scanline | very informative |
| 16:54:46 | gonkey{iBook} | hehehehe :) |
| 16:55:14 | scanline | I need a spirit who can touch my life |
| 16:55:19 | scanline | I need a voice who can speak the truth |
| 16:55:25 | scanline | I need a sould who can be on my side |
| 16:55:25 | carpman | PicoBot: tell carpman about cheese |
| 16:55:26 | PicoBot | cheese is ickysneeze's favorite food or Cheese us gwist! or fun to blow up |
| 16:55:27 | gonkey{iBook} | I can sing that :) |
| 16:55:32 | scanline | I need a heart I'll never lose |
| 16:55:36 | scanline | Somebody like you |
| 16:55:41 | gonkey{iBook} | sings it good too |
| 16:55:42 | gonkey{iBook} | right scanline |
| 16:55:47 | kergoth | what song is that? |
| 16:55:48 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:55:50 | gonkey{iBook} | ? |
| 16:55:55 | scanline | kergoth: it's part of Tranceport :) |
| 16:55:56 | carpman | ascencion, slacker mix |
| 16:56:00 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth: song 5 from tranceport |
| 16:56:09 | kergoth | damnit, i need to buy that. |
| 16:56:17 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth: just a sec |
| 16:56:21 | scanline | I need somebody who can move my world |
| 16:56:23 | gonkey{iBook} | I'll DCC it to you |
| 16:56:26 | carpman | kergoth: you want tranceport, you want tranceport... |
| 16:56:26 | scanline | Someone who knows just what to do |
| 16:56:41 | kergoth | gonkey{iBook}: let me switch clients, this one is firewalled |
| 16:56:43 | carpman | gamemaster is a cool track too |
| 16:56:55 | scanline | carpman: indeed! |
| 16:57:00 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth: oh, ok |
| 16:57:07 | scanline | I forgot how good tranceport was for coding and such.. and now I think I'm addicted |
| 16:57:10 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth: I am not firewalled, so it should be good |
| 16:57:23 | scanline | maybe I should send it, I have better upstream |
| 16:57:52 | kergoth | Ill end up buying it when i get paid anyway, i'm sure :) |
| 16:57:55 | kergoth | thats what i always do |
| 16:57:58 | kergoth | d/l, buy |
| 16:57:58 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:58:01 | scanline | yep |
| 16:58:39 | gonkey{iBook} | this IRC client has a funky DCC interface |
| 16:58:57 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth`: getting it? |
| 16:59:14 | scanline | hrmm.. wonder if this can do globbing on dcc filenames |
| 16:59:43 | scanline | guess not |
| 16:59:45 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth: download them from my public_html folder |
| 17:00:26 | carpman | drops a bomb on resCGetAppPaths |
| 17:00:40 | gonkey{iBook} | starts his http server |
| 17:01:27 | scanline | carpman: any reason to have the name start with resC instead of res? it's probably implied what language it's in :) |
| 17:01:52 | gonkey{iBook} | http://propellant-1.client.mscd.edu/~brandon/ |
| 17:02:38 | kergoth | gonkey{iBook}: the http daemon running? connection refused. |
| 17:02:54 | gonkey{iBook} | kergoth: I can load it up from here... |
| 17:02:57 | gonkey{iBook} | nmap me |
| 17:03:07 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/public.186d/media/music/paul_oakenfold/tranceport/ |
| 17:03:23 | gonkey{iBook} | that works too ;) |
| 17:04:03 | kergoth | okay, thanks guys |
| 17:04:29 | scanline | np |
| 17:08:03 | carpman | scanline: oh, rgiht |
| 17:08:06 | carpman | err, right |
| 17:08:17 | carpman | ok, I'll change that when it stops blowing up :) |
| 17:08:26 | scanline | k :) |
| 17:08:52 | gonkey{iBook} | this class is getting realllllly boring |
| 17:09:20 | carpman | "" |
| 17:09:23 | carpman | DOH |
| 17:09:46 | carpman | "bl4h..blbl4h..blbl4h..blbl4h..bl4h..4h..bl4h..bl4h..4h..bl4h..blbl4h..bl4h..4h..bl4h..bl4h..4h.." |
| 17:09:48 | gonkey{iBook} | I am ready to start using windows it is so bad... |
| 17:10:08 | carpman | gonkey{iBook}: good thing your on PPC then :) |
| 17:10:25 | gonkey{iBook} | carpman: I might lift a copy of Virtual PC from the office |
| 17:10:39 | carpman | gonkey{iBook}: resist. |
| 17:11:05 | gonkey{iBook} | but the professor's cottonmouth is SO BAD |
| 17:11:25 | carpman | gonkey{iBook}: CROTCH |
| 17:11:36 | gonkey{iBook} | loses it |
| 17:11:37 | carpman | gonkey{iBook}: go read sluggy freelance |
| 17:12:06 | gonkey{iBook} | hmm... something new with apple's switch adds |
| 17:16:28 | darth_balls | hey hey |
| 17:16:38 | scanline | it's yogi bear! |
| 17:16:56 | darth_balls | I am on KSirc ^_^ |
| 17:17:30 | darth_balls | gonkulator you here? |
| 17:18:00 | darth_balls | PicoBot: seen gonulator? |
| 17:18:00 | PicoBot | I haven't seen 'gonulator', darth_balls |
| 17:18:06 | darth_balls | grr |
| 17:18:11 | darth_balls | PicoBot: seen gonkulator? |
| 17:18:11 | PicoBot | gonkulator was last seen on #picogui 12 hours, 57 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: is away: sleepy time [Mon Oct 7 23:26:54 2002] |
| 17:20:49 | gonkey{iBook} | hi darth_balls |
| 17:20:54 | darth_balls | hey |
| 17:20:57 | darth_balls | it works!! |
| 17:21:07 | gonkey{iBook} | you are on your new machine???? |
| 17:21:17 | darth_balls | yes |
| 17:21:23 | darth_balls | in IRC anyway |
| 17:21:24 | gonkey{iBook} | cool and congradulations |
| 17:21:31 | darth_balls | AIM is still the iBook cuz I really like iChat |
| 17:21:40 | darth_balls | is sooooooooooooooo happy! |
| 17:21:43 | gonkey{iBook} | iChat ain't bad |
| 17:21:51 | darth_balls | I still like the icons |
| 17:22:00 | gonkey{iBook} | congradulates darth_balls on his first successful computer build |
| 17:22:11 | darth_balls | plus I set "starry night" as the background in the window, so it's very pleasant |
| 17:23:01 | gonkey{iBook} | needs to get wallpapers from scanline |
| 17:23:18 | darth_balls | hey, I gotta question |
| 17:23:27 | gonkey{iBook} | shoot |
| 17:23:29 | darth_balls | How do I convert cd's to Mp3's |
| 17:23:35 | darth_balls | I wanna test something |
| 17:23:37 | gonkey{iBook} | two programs |
| 17:23:50 | gonkey{iBook} | cdparanoia to rip the CDs |
| 17:23:55 | gonkey{iBook} | and LAME to encode them |
| 17:23:58 | scanline | try grip |
| 17:24:12 | darth_balls | ok... where do I get those? |
| 17:24:18 | gonkey{iBook} | emerge |
| 17:24:23 | scanline | recommends grip |
| 17:24:25 | scanline | use grip |
| 17:24:32 | scanline | thinks darth_balls should use grip |
| 17:24:38 | scanline | :) |
| 17:24:44 | gonkey{iBook} | scanline: we get you... |
| 17:24:52 | gonkey{iBook} | just uses iTunes |
| 17:25:03 | scanline | grip can also rip to ogg :P |
| 17:25:05 | darth_balls | but I need em on the tower |
| 17:25:25 | darth_balls | can I ftp or something over the LAN at school? |
| 17:25:31 | gonkey{iBook} | thats what networks are for ;) |
| 17:25:33 | darth_balls | since both the ibook and tower are connected? |
| 17:25:48 | gonkey{iBook} | yes indeed, it is easy even |
| 17:25:48 | darth_balls | ok... I don't remember exactly how |
| 17:26:14 | darth_balls | I use the terminal, correct? |
| 17:26:16 | gonkey{iBook} | "and that is what Bush was doing five thousand miles ago" |
| 17:26:20 | gonkey{iBook} | darth_balls: yeah, you can |
| 17:26:34 | gonkey{iBook} | you could also start an NFS share in OS X and do it that way |
| 17:26:38 | gonkey{iBook} | but scp is probably easier ;) |
| 17:26:59 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: class? |
| 17:26:59 | PicoBot | its over! its over! stop asking me! leave me alone! |
| 17:27:14 | gonkey{iBook} | hehehe |
| 17:27:18 | gonkey{iBook} | fragglet's doing? |
| 17:27:42 | darth_balls | gonkey{iBook}: scp? |
| 17:28:00 | gonkey{iBook} | yeah |
| 17:28:04 | gonkey{iBook} | read the man page on it |
| 17:28:07 | darth_balls | oh, duh |
| 17:28:11 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 17:28:13 | gonkey{iBook} | it will tell you everything you need to know ;) |
| 17:28:15 | darth_balls | feels a little dumb |
| 17:28:29 | gonkey{iBook} | feels a little sick |
| 17:28:38 | gonkey{iBook} | this class was suposed to be over 5 minutes ago |
| 17:29:05 | gonkey{iBook} | oh, wait |
| 17:29:10 | gonkey{iBook} | there is still 10 minutes left |
| 17:29:12 | gonkey{iBook} | is sad |
| 17:29:18 | gonkey{iBook} | wants to leave this place |
| 17:30:33 | darth_balls | lol |
| 17:30:35 | darth_balls | I'm sorry |
| 17:31:42 | scanline | read sluggy :) |
| 17:32:02 | darth_balls | wah? |
| 17:32:14 | gonkey{iBook} | ROFLMAO |
| 17:32:21 | gonkey{iBook} | the professor just spilled his coffee..... |
| 17:32:26 | gonkey{iBook} | hahhahahahahahahahhahaa |
| 17:33:18 | darth_balls | grrrrr |
| 17:33:24 | darth_balls | how do I resume a stopped process |
| 17:33:34 | darth_balls | thinks it's been too long since he used linux regularly |
| 17:34:44 | gonkey{iBook} | % |
| 17:35:09 | darth_balls | %? |
| 17:35:10 | gonkey{iBook} | or, if you want it to go into the background, bg % |
| 17:35:16 | darth_balls | ok |
| 17:36:09 | gonkey{iBook} | scanline: do you have an A/V cable for your iBook that you aren't using? |
| 17:36:24 | gonkey{iBook} | can't find his |
| 17:36:50 | scanline | yeah.. why? |
| 17:37:07 | darth_balls | arg |
| 17:37:17 | gonkey{iBook} | because my parents don't have a DVD player, and my iBook is the only one in the house that can attach to the TV |
| 17:37:53 | scanline | gonkey{iBook}: they have AV cables at the apple store |
| 17:38:00 | gonkey{iBook} | I know |
| 17:38:12 | gonkey{iBook} | but it would be less expensive to borrow yours than to buy a new one |
| 17:38:17 | gonkey{iBook} | if your answer is no, thats fine |
| 17:38:23 | gonkey{iBook} | but I needed to ask |
| 17:38:31 | scanline | I have a feeling it would be a rather extended borrow.. |
| 17:39:34 | gonkey{iBook} | if you wanted it back, I would bring it back |
| 17:40:19 | gonkey{iBook} | and I would only need it until my parents buy a DVD player |
| 17:40:26 | gonkey{iBook} | which isn't too far off |
| 17:40:26 | scanline | maybe... |
| 17:40:31 | gonkey{iBook} | anyway, class is over now |
| 17:40:41 | gonkey{iBook} | later everyone |
| 17:43:45 | darth_balls | scanline: what was that pgm you wer talking about? |
| 17:43:47 | darth_balls | grp?? |
| 17:43:53 | scanline | grip |
| 17:44:44 | darth_balls | right, where to find? |
| 17:45:34 | scanline | emerge, google, freshmeat.. pick one |
| 17:45:48 | carpman | well, off to work |
| 17:45:52 | carpman | is away: work |
| 17:46:22 | darth_balls | search for "grip" and what else? |
| 17:46:25 | darth_balls | Linux? |
| 17:47:08 | scanline | can't you just look for it in your distro's packge manager? |
| 17:47:12 | scanline | you use gentoo, right? |
| 17:47:22 | scanline | do something like "find /usr/portage | grep grip" |
| 17:47:30 | darth_balls | redhat 7.3 right now |
| 17:47:39 | gonkulator{work} | hehehe, rpmfind.net |
| 17:47:48 | gonkulator{work} | what a friggin mess |
| 17:47:56 | scanline | darth_balls: just use freshmeat then |
| 17:48:24 | darth_balls | ba duh? |
| 17:48:31 | darth_balls | I"m sorry, It's been a long time for me |
| 17:48:48 | darth_balls | last time I used LInux regularly was on a 24.4 modem |
| 17:48:55 | darth_balls | wait, maybe 48.8 |
| 17:49:05 | gonkulator{work} | darth_balls: go to www.rpmfind.net |
| 17:49:10 | gonkulator{work} | and they have a search feild |
| 17:49:13 | gonkulator{work} | type in grip |
| 17:49:40 | gonkulator{work} | they have a pretty good selection of stuff |
| 17:49:43 | darth_balls | ok |
| 17:49:45 | darth_balls | thank you |
| 17:50:06 | gonkulator{work} | np |
| 17:50:17 | gonkulator{work} | when I see you again, I'll walk you through a gentoo install |
| 17:50:22 | gonkulator{work} | and get you out of RPM hell |
| 17:50:36 | file | became tempted to install Gentoo on droid this morning |
| 17:50:37 | gonkulator{work} | because RPM sucks worse than OS 9 |
| 17:50:44 | gonkulator{work} | file: go for it |
| 17:50:48 | gonkulator{work} | it is worth it |
| 17:50:51 | gonkulator{work} | you will thank yourself later forit |
| 17:50:53 | file | gonkulator{work}: estimated time of install? |
| 17:51:07 | gonkulator{work} | file: machine specs? |
| 17:51:15 | file | gonkulator{work}: 133MHz 486 with 64mb of RAM |
| 17:51:26 | gonkulator{work} | file: about two days |
| 17:51:35 | file | thought so |
| 17:51:44 | gonkulator{work} | but it will be worth it |
| 17:51:48 | gonkulator{work} | very very worth it |
| 17:51:50 | file | notes azmarith still hasn't shown up |
| 17:52:21 | darth_balls | gonkulator{work}: I was planning on trying a gentoo install this weekend, if you're around |
| 17:52:34 | gonkulator{work} | I hope to be around |
| 17:53:34 | gonkulator{work} | gentoo installs are really easy |
| 17:53:44 | file | gonkulator{work}: I'm unhappy now |
| 17:54:35 | gonkulator{work} | file: whats wrong/ |
| 17:54:36 | gonkulator{work} | ? |
| 17:54:38 | darth_balls | gonkulator{work}: now that I have this .rpm thing, what do I do w/ it? |
| 17:54:51 | file | gonkulator{work}: azmarith not found. |
| 17:55:11 | gonkulator{work} | darth_balls: rpm -i <rpmname>.rpm |
| 17:55:13 | gonkulator{work} | as root |
| 17:55:22 | gonkulator{work} | file: it will come, don't worry |
| 17:55:23 | darth_balls | ok, so I have to relog on? |
| 17:55:36 | gonkulator{work} | don't need to relog in |
| 17:55:38 | file | gonkulator{work}: it's been 3+ weeks |
| 17:55:43 | gonkulator{work} | in a shell, type su - |
| 17:55:46 | gonkulator{work} | er, "su - " |
| 17:55:53 | gonkulator{work} | and enter in your root password |
| 17:55:56 | darth_balls | ok |
| 17:56:27 | file | gonkulator{work}: think KDE would run smoothly with X on droid? |
| 17:56:38 | gonkulator{work} | depends |
| 17:56:52 | gonkulator{work} | would you want to run any applications on top of KDE? |
| 17:57:04 | gonkulator{work} | smoothness and applications aren't going to happen at the same time on that |
| 17:57:17 | file | decides to stick to something smaller like icewm |
| 17:57:41 | gonkulator{work} | pwm is good too |
| 17:57:57 | file | uh huh |
| 17:57:59 | file | has used icewm |
| 17:59:14 | file | I like the default theme for it |
| 18:01:02 | gonkulator{work} | oh, ok |
| 18:01:08 | gonkulator{work} | whatever makes you happy |
| 18:01:54 | darth_balls | needs to find a way to run Thief on Fission |
| 18:05:23 | darth_balls | damn, class time |
| 18:05:40 | d_b{lab} | is away: chem time |
| 18:09:05 | file | gonkulator{work}: wazzup? |
| 18:13:46 | file | nudges gonkulator |
| 18:15:51 | gonkulator{work} | hi file |
| 18:16:11 | file | hello cheesy one. |
| 18:25:40 | kergoth | ahhhhh |
| 18:25:43 | kergoth | i hate going to lunch |
| 18:25:46 | kergoth | and then having to come back to work |
| 18:25:50 | kergoth | i always want to just leaver |
| 18:25:52 | file | kergoth: I agree |
| 18:45:01 | file | scanline!!!!! |
| 18:45:03 | file | PicoBot: scanline? |
| 18:45:03 | PicoBot | scanline is one with less memory than a Cybiko or a dingo that needs shaving or the master of whistling to modems or a non-dingo that no longer needs shaving or now clean shaven or obsessed with hot sauce or not one to eat ramens without both water and hot sauce in them or the coiner of the word "biologicality" or shiny on the webcam or deaf or nobody's bitch or a thesaurus or a forgetful drunk |
| 18:45:08 | scanline | what? |
| 18:45:09 | file | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
| 18:45:09 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 0 seconds ago, saying: what? [Tue Oct 8 13:51:43 2002] |
| 18:45:19 | file | scanline: can you send me the nt40server.zip file from my home directory? |
| 18:45:25 | scanline | no |
| 18:45:29 | file | why??? |
| 18:45:36 | scanline | because you can get it yourself |
| 18:45:45 | file | no I can't, I've got no access |
| 18:45:52 | file | and I think the permissions are set on it wrong so I can't access it |
| 18:45:56 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/joshnet.ee2f/ |
| 18:46:44 | file | don't have permission... |
| 18:46:57 | file | :( |
| 18:47:04 | scanline | hmm too bad then |
| 18:47:09 | file | frowns |
| 18:47:29 | file | what if I beg? |
| 18:49:38 | file | scanline: squashing bugs? |
| 19:21:33 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 19:21:33 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #openzaurus 8 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying: bastard: [Tue Oct 8 14:19:58 2002] |
| 19:21:41 | scanline | hi |
| 19:21:45 | carpman{tallest} | hi scanline |
| 19:21:55 | carpman{tallest} | grr... can't connect to navi |
| 19:22:09 | scanline | ssh? |
| 19:22:09 | carpman{tallest} | https://navi.picogui.org right? |
| 19:22:32 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/public.186d/ |
| 19:23:07 | carpman{tallest} | thanks, need part of a lain episode for testing |
| 19:24:55 | captain_proton | sup scanline |
| 19:25:09 | scanline | hi captain_proton |
| 19:25:37 | file | scanline: can you pretty please fix it? |
| 19:25:56 | scanline | file: no, get your warez elsewhere |
| 19:26:08 | file | scanline: but once this is downloaded you can delete all my files |
| 19:26:37 | carpman{tallest} | wow, I've never seen an SGI go so slow :) |
| 19:27:52 | file | bah |
| 19:29:33 | carpman{tallest} | file: CROTCH |
| 19:30:03 | file | carpman{tallest}: scanline is being mean |
| 19:30:10 | carpman{tallest} | file: BAH |
| 19:31:56 | file | carpman{tallest}: do you have SSH access to navi? |
| 19:32:15 | carpman{tallest} | file: CROTCH |
| 19:32:21 | file | ok |
| 19:32:30 | carpman{tallest} | file: BAH... CROTCH |
| 19:32:55 | file | Translation: file: BAH... NO |
| 19:50:15 | lalo | hi ppl |
| 19:50:29 | lalo | I see carpman has been reading sluggy too. |
| 19:51:15 | scanline | hi lalo |
| 19:52:14 | file | scanline: are you busy? |
| 19:52:24 | scanline | file: yes |
| 19:52:36 | file | scanline: oh, ok |
| 19:53:24 | file | was hoping to have NT4 reinstalled by tonight but guesses not |
| 19:53:58 | captain_proton | nt4? ew |
| 19:54:50 | file | captain_proton: be quiet |
| 19:55:12 | captain_proton | i refuse |
| 19:55:55 | file | then don't say "ew" without knowing why I use it |
| 19:56:31 | captain_proton | there are no reasons to use it aside from not being willing to get anything else |
| 19:56:33 | lalo | ew. :-) |
| 19:56:51 | scanline | file: even if your life depends on using crap software, it's still just as crappy |
| 19:57:21 | file | captain_proton: what if a vital part of my network relied on it? |
| 19:57:52 | captain_proton | win2k does everything nt4 does |
| 19:58:23 | captain_proton | points to scanline and nots |
| 19:58:24 | captain_proton | nods* |
| 19:58:42 | file | captain_proton: but my machine is a 486 with a 133MHz CPU and 64mb of RAM |
| 19:58:57 | carpman{tallest} | file: then put linux on it :) |
| 19:59:17 | file | carpman{tallest}: I can't because I've got no hub, so my laptop relies on my frigging wireless network |
| 19:59:20 | file | which doesn't work in Linux |
| 19:59:43 | file | kapiche? |
| 19:59:58 | carpman{tallest} | I don't eat cheese pies, thanks. |
| 20:00:03 | scanline | file: it was really dumb to buy nonstandard wireless cards that dont' work in linux |
| 20:00:17 | file | scanline: why? |
| 20:00:24 | file | why do I have to be on Linux? |
| 20:00:30 | captain_proton | there are wireless cards that don't work in linux? |
| 20:00:37 | scanline | because if it's not a standard, you're stuck with whatever drivers they give you |
| 20:00:42 | file | so? |
| 20:00:44 | file | they work! |
| 20:00:49 | scanline | you probably cant' use them with a new version of windows for example |
| 20:00:59 | carpman{tallest} | yeah, like eggs pee |
| 20:01:01 | scanline | sighs |
| 20:01:45 | file | just wants NT4 Server |
| 20:02:08 | glitch{tallest} | hey scanline... |
| 20:02:13 | scanline | hi glitch{tallest} |
| 20:02:27 | file | scanline: you... deleted... it |
| 20:02:29 | glitch{tallest} | has Gonkulator perfected his "impression of me? |
| 20:02:36 | glitch{tallest} | " |
| 20:02:41 | file | faints |
| 20:02:50 | scanline | file: huh? |
| 20:02:55 | file | scanline: it's gone |
| 20:02:58 | glitch{tallest} | kicks file while he's down. |
| 20:02:59 | file | my NT4 Server on navi is gone |
| 20:02:59 | scanline | file: have you been sitting there reloading it? |
| 20:03:09 | file | scanline: no, I just hit it a second ago |
| 20:03:15 | scanline | file: yes I just deleted it, I was just wondering how you noticed so quickly :P |
| 20:03:23 | gonkulator{work} | glitch{tallest}: I had it perfect, then my mom threatened to kick me out of the house if I kept talking with that voice |
| 20:03:25 | file | faints |
| 20:03:32 | file | it took me... too long to find that |
| 20:03:38 | glitch{tallest} | shakes his head in despair. |
| 20:03:39 | scanline | file: I deleted your entire home directory |
| 20:03:53 | file | it took me over 2 weeks to find that |
| 20:03:54 | scanline | file: I'm not going to store warez for you, you're annoying enough as it is |
| 20:04:07 | carpman{tallest} | scanline: clickety...clickety *wats your username again?* |
| 20:04:12 | gonkulator{work} | remembers when scanline deleted Nathan's home directory |
| 20:04:12 | file | is getting quite angry |
| 20:04:13 | scanline | carpman{tallest}: hehe |
| 20:04:17 | gonkulator{work} | 6 |
| 20:04:21 | gonkulator{work} | doh... |
| 20:04:44 | carpman{tallest} | gonkulator{work}: it was supposded to be 7!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:04:51 | file | o... son of a... ::Faints:: |
| 20:05:07 | scanline | yay, file's gone |
| 20:05:08 | scanline | parties |
| 20:05:48 | glitch{tallest} | that had to be the funniest thing i've read in a while! |
| 20:06:26 | glitch{tallest} | "hmmm... warez, warex, warez, hmmmm.... DEEE-LETED!!!!!!!! |
| 20:06:33 | glitch{tallest} | " |
| 20:06:43 | gonkulator{work} | good thing I made a copy on my iBook |
| 20:06:50 | glitch{tallest} | sniggers |
| 20:06:59 | gonkulator{work} | hmm... |
| 20:07:02 | gonkulator{work} | to delete or to keep |
| 20:07:05 | gonkulator{work} | deletes |
| 20:07:12 | glitch{tallest} | DELETED!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:07:27 | glitch{tallest} | see you guys later.... |
| 20:07:57 | carpman{tallest} | going home, bbl |
| 20:08:45 | file | sulks |
| 20:12:27 | file | scanline: I don' |
| 20:12:28 | file | er |
| 20:12:32 | file | scanline: I don't hate you... but that was mean |
| 20:12:44 | scanline | file: I don't hate you, but you're annoying |
| 20:12:57 | scanline | maybe you'll get a real OS now, or at least get your warez elsewhere |
| 20:13:07 | file | will be more annoying if he doesn't find this again |
| 20:13:29 | scanline | will ban file from #picogui if he gets any more annoying |
| 20:13:32 | file | oh go chew on an AOL CD! |
| 20:13:33 | gonkulator{work} | on the bright side, file will never be able to be as anoying as quark_quasar |
| 20:16:20 | gonkulator{work} | <quarkquasar> well, nobody's perfct |
| 20:25:04 | scanline | PicoBot: WT? |
| 20:25:04 | PicoBot | WT is Widget Templates |
| 20:25:09 | scanline | PicoBot: widget templates? |
| 20:25:10 | PicoBot | widget templates are described at http://picogui.org/wiki/view/Main/WidgetTemplates |
| 20:25:20 | scanline | captain_proton: that wiki page has more info on the format |
| 20:26:36 | scanline | captain_proton: the format is so simple that it's 9 lines of C code to describe, but it can store any picogui objects and the relationships between them |
| 20:32:46 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 20:32:51 | captain_proton | #bzflag has gone to german mode again |
| 20:41:31 | gonkulator{work} | captain_proton: doesn't seem to be that way now |
| 20:42:06 | kergoth | scanline: i didnt know a 'console_ioctl' manpage existed1 |
| 20:42:36 | scanline | ooh... I knew about console_codes, didn't see this one though |
| 20:42:36 | scanline | cool |
| 20:44:21 | merlin262 | finally, home, |
| 20:44:25 | merlin262 | kicks back |
| 20:45:42 | kergoth | WARNING: If you use the following information you are going to burn |
| 20:45:44 | kergoth | yourself. |
| 20:45:48 | kergoth | i love linux manpages |
| 20:45:55 | merlin262 | lol |
| 20:46:10 | merlin262 | erk! Windows patches. someone got sasteroids working in Windows?!?!?!? |
| 20:46:11 | merlin262 | feints |
| 20:46:27 | file | recovers from loss of NT4 Server |
| 20:47:17 | merlin262 | makes sure file's server is dead again |
| 20:47:35 | scanline | stabs file |
| 20:48:04 | kergoth | stabs file too, for good measure |
| 20:48:07 | file | scanline: I don't hate you anymore |
| 20:48:13 | merlin262 | stabs file three |
| 20:48:14 | merlin262 | =) |
| 20:48:19 | file | gives scanline a bottle of Bawls |
| 20:48:36 | kergoth | mm bawls |
| 20:48:40 | kergoth | i need to order that |
| 20:48:55 | lalo | oops, sorry, I was reading the news |
| 20:48:58 | lalo | stabs file. |
| 20:49:17 | file | feels a pain... everywhere |
| 20:49:22 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 20:49:38 | kergoth | file: liar, we missed a spot |
| 20:49:41 | kergoth | stabs file in the missed spot |
| 20:49:45 | kergoth | there. |
| 20:52:05 | kergoth | hm |
| 20:52:19 | kergoth | note to self: dont play nine inch nails - closer, loudly, at work. |
| 20:52:56 | scanline | "WARNING: ioctl's are undocumented Linux internals, liable to be changed |
| 20:52:56 | scanline | without warning. Use POSIX functions." |
| 20:53:17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:53:33 | merlin262 | wishes he could play music at work |
| 20:53:51 | darth_balls | aaah, time for a short break |
| 20:54:00 | scanline | you also have to wonder what POSIX functions they're talking about |
| 20:54:00 | scanline | file: anymore? |
| 20:54:03 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:54:22 | kergoth | scanline: exactly. last i checked, there werent any posix functions for manipulating VTs or console parameters |
| 20:54:35 | scanline | nods |
| 20:54:42 | darth_balls | does anyone know where to find the Linux version of Counter Strike? |
| 20:54:51 | merlin262 | There isn't one |
| 20:54:58 | darth_balls | yeah there is |
| 20:55:05 | darth_balls | there are linux servers all over the place |
| 20:55:09 | merlin262 | Oh, that's different |
| 20:55:11 | scanline | that's only the server |
| 20:55:14 | darth_balls | dammit |
| 20:55:23 | darth_balls | Rob told me that it was a linux version of CS |
| 20:55:31 | scanline | no |
| 20:57:01 | darth_balls | grrr |
| 20:57:36 | file | 3.14mb done of NT4 Server download |
| 20:59:42 | merlin262 | darth_balls: CS plays in Wine just fine though(not to start a flamewar...) |
| 21:02:55 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 21:03:11 | darth_balls | merlin262: that brings me to my next question: how can I get an emulator so that I can play Thief? |
| 21:04:28 | merlin262 | Thief???? |
| 21:04:31 | merlin262 | hmmmm.... |
| 21:04:55 | merlin262 | Thief for Windows? |
| 21:04:57 | darth_balls | yeah, it won't run on NT systems |
| 21:05:00 | darth_balls | ya |
| 21:05:07 | merlin262 | try winex |
| 21:05:13 | merlin262 | www.transgaming.com |
| 21:07:03 | darth_balls | kk |
| 21:07:24 | darth_balls | how about Mp3 dl's in linux? |
| 21:07:32 | merlin262 | mp3 downloads? |
| 21:07:43 | merlin262 | use xmms |
| 21:07:57 | darth_balls | to dl? |
| 21:08:06 | kergoth | darth_balls: gift.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:08:08 | merlin262 | use mozilla |
| 21:08:10 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 21:08:32 | darth_balls | merlin262: =P |
| 21:08:34 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 21:08:47 | kergoth | giFT = nifty |
| 21:10:25 | carpman | ye gads! |
| 21:10:35 | merlin262 | Hey carpman, I've already got patches e-mailed me |
| 21:10:40 | scanline | tries to track down a segfault in mplayer |
| 21:10:40 | carpman | I swear, it rains just a little, and people go totaly bezerk on the road. |
| 21:10:46 | merlin262 | carpman: SOMEONE got it running in Windows........ |
| 21:10:51 | carpman | merlin262: wow! |
| 21:10:55 | kergoth | carpman: oh no, the ground is wet! everybody go 10mph! |
| 21:11:21 | carpman | kergoth: oh no, the road is wet, yeild don't let anyone in. |
| 21:11:32 | carpman | s/yeild/yield means |
| 21:11:34 | kergoth | carpman: that too |
| 21:11:34 | lalo | kergoth: no, nifty is a text editor ;-) |
| 21:11:35 | kergoth | fuckers |
| 21:12:57 | darth_balls | lol |
| 21:13:22 | scanline | tries to reproduce the segfault in something a little easier to gdb than mplayer |
| 21:14:01 | carpman | hehe |
| 21:14:14 | carpman | a 6 page backtrace is never fun |
| 21:14:28 | scanline | more fun than a corrupted stack |
| 21:14:42 | gonkulator{work} | hey carpman |
| 21:14:43 | gonkulator{work} | hi darth_balls |
| 21:14:48 | gonkulator{work} | howdy scanline |
| 21:14:53 | scanline | hi |
| 21:15:09 | gonkulator{work} | this is incredible, there is a chance of a production linux box in the lab now |
| 21:15:14 | gonkulator{work} | instead of just my test machine ;) |
| 21:15:24 | gonkulator{work} | is feeling quite mighty |
| 21:15:32 | scanline | hrm... nope, just mplayer |
| 21:16:05 | darth_balls | well, I gotta get redy to tutor |
| 21:16:12 | darth_balls | hasta lasagna and thanx for all the help |
| 21:16:13 | DevGirl | hello! |
| 21:16:14 | gonkulator{work} | later darth_balls |
| 21:16:19 | gonkulator{work} | hey DevGirl |
| 21:16:30 | DevGirl | lasagna??? |
| 21:16:36 | DevGirl | NHAM! |
| 21:16:40 | d_b{tutor} | is away: <grumble grumble> I'd rather play w/ Fission than tutor |
| 21:16:41 | gonkulator{work} | DevGirl: just a crazy food |
| 21:16:52 | scanline | updates his CVS of mplayer |
| 21:17:12 | DevGirl | LOVES lasagna ^^ |
| 21:17:13 | file | dives into the mysteries of negative exponents |
| 21:17:47 | DevGirl | misses the Four cheese Lasagna with four cheese cream and a LOT of cheese on top ^^ |
| 21:18:39 | lalo | scanline: btw, is there already a way to interface with the advanced (eg formatting) features of the textbox? |
| 21:18:47 | scanline | lalo: not yet |
| 21:18:47 | lalo | or rather - do they exist already? :-) |
| 21:18:54 | scanline | they don't really exist :) |
| 21:18:56 | carpman | DevGirl: CROTCH! |
| 21:19:02 | carpman | hi gonkulator{work} |
| 21:19:05 | lalo | carpman: BAH |
| 21:19:09 | DevGirl | carpman: BAH! |
| 21:19:17 | DevGirl | lalo: Crotch! |
| 21:20:04 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: I am going to have Linux PRODUCTION machines!!!! |
| 21:20:05 | file | 37mb to go... |
| 21:20:14 | gonkulator{work} | file: did you find your warez again? |
| 21:20:14 | carpman | gonkulator{work}: tis fun |
| 21:20:32 | file | gonkulator{work}: I asked somebody for a copy and they put it on their FTP server |
| 21:20:45 | file | it's got Service Pack 3 too! |
| 21:21:02 | carpman | file: "R U 4 1337 |-|/\><0R p1r8?!?!?!?!?!" |
| 21:21:11 | gonkulator{work} | hehehe |
| 21:21:15 | file | lol |
| 21:21:46 | carpman | warez is for script kiddies, I need no warez. |
| 21:22:05 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: can I have your new l33t copy of A0F |
| 21:22:13 | file | 29mb of 62mb done |
| 21:22:19 | carpman | gonkulator{work}: 2.5 or 3.0? |
| 21:22:30 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: I want the super beta :) |
| 21:22:34 | carpman | ah, 3.0 |
| 21:22:42 | gonkulator{work} | the kind that nobody can get until it comes out |
| 21:22:49 | gonkulator{work} | and I want to get it off of your 33.6 FTP |
| 21:22:55 | carpman | hehe |
| 21:23:06 | gonkulator{work} | to maximize the download time |
| 21:23:25 | carpman | gonkulator{work}: dont leek it :) |
| 21:23:55 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: no worries, I am cool |
| 21:45:37 | merlin262 | carpman: I feel bad, I've added windows support to sasteroids. |
| 21:45:40 | merlin262 | *cries* |
| 21:45:53 | gonkulator{work} | merlin262: how could you???????\ |
| 21:45:59 | merlin262 | I know |
| 21:46:01 | merlin262 | I know. :( |
| 21:47:34 | carpman | get the clamps! |
| 21:47:45 | carpman | charges the clamps reactor |
| 21:47:53 | gonkulator{work} | gives clearance |
| 21:48:09 | carpman | 1.21 jiggavolts! |
| 21:48:29 | carpman | *pzzzzzzap* |
| 21:48:30 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 21:48:41 | gonkulator{work} | actually |
| 21:48:46 | carpman | PicoBot: creativity clamps? |
| 21:48:47 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: I am in need of clamps now too |
| 21:48:47 | PicoBot | creativity clamps are A special device used to inspire sleepy programmers and punish the unworthy. |
| 21:48:55 | gonkulator{work} | is installing windows XP |
| 21:49:03 | carpman | VILE! |
| 21:49:16 | gonkulator{work} | I am installing 10.2 at the same time |
| 21:49:23 | carpman | VILER! |
| 21:49:23 | gonkulator{work} | but still, the RDF and FUD are playing with my head |
| 21:49:24 | fragglet | PicoBot: agreed |
| 21:49:24 | PicoBot | fragglet: i'm not following you... |
| 21:49:29 | fragglet | heh |
| 21:49:45 | merlin262 | adds Windows supprot, but won't make Windows packages! |
| 21:49:46 | merlin262 | I refuse |
| 21:49:58 | gonkulator{work} | windows does have supprot |
| 21:50:13 | fragglet | PicoBot: agreed |
| 21:50:13 | PicoBot | so we're all agreed. |
| 21:50:15 | fragglet | PicoBot: agreed |
| 21:50:15 | PicoBot | so we're all agreed. |
| 21:50:17 | fragglet | PicoBot: agreed |
| 21:50:17 | PicoBot | so we're all agreed. |
| 21:50:21 | fragglet | hmm |
| 21:50:22 | fragglet | PicoBot: agreed |
| 21:50:22 | PicoBot | excellent. |
| 21:50:30 | merlin262 | ??? |
| 21:50:32 | gonkulator{work} | oh, fragglet |
| 21:50:35 | gonkulator{work} | I have a question for you |
| 21:50:39 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:50:39 | PicoBot | its over! its over! stop asking me! leave me alone! |
| 21:50:41 | fragglet | mhmmmmmm |
| 21:50:41 | gonkulator{work} | is that your wokr? |
| 21:50:44 | gonkulator{work} | er, work |
| 21:50:46 | gonkulator{work} | did you do that/ |
| 21:50:46 | fragglet | hahaha |
| 21:51:11 | carpman | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:51:12 | PicoBot | class is KABOOM! |
| 21:51:43 | gonkulator{work} | shudders |
| 21:52:23 | DevGirl | think it's explosion time! |
| 21:52:32 | DevGirl | PicoBot: explode! |
| 21:52:32 | PicoBot | explodes into a happy puff of smoke |
| 21:52:33 | gonkulator{work} | hehehehe |
| 21:52:33 | carpman | uhoh |
| 21:52:38 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: DevGirl? |
| 21:52:38 | PicoBot | no matter how much she explodes me, I love her... |
| 21:52:42 | DevGirl | PicoBot: explode twice |
| 21:52:42 | PicoBot | explodes once, and does it again for good measure |
| 21:52:43 | gonkulator{work} | as do we all :) |
| 21:52:46 | DevGirl | :D |
| 21:53:02 | DevGirl | oh! is so good feeling loved :) |
| 21:53:18 | fragglet | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:53:18 | PicoBot | class is, like, KABOOM! |
| 21:53:24 | fragglet | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:53:24 | PicoBot | hmmm... class is KABOOM! |
| 21:53:26 | fragglet | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:53:26 | PicoBot | no, screw OOP |
| 21:53:53 | DevGirl | PicoBot: explode three times |
| 21:53:53 | PicoBot | why, is Devgirl around? |
| 21:53:58 | DevGirl | yay! |
| 21:54:12 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: explode thrice |
| 21:54:13 | PicoBot | explodes, coagulates, and detonates, only to become coherent and pop |
| 21:54:31 | fragglet | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:54:31 | PicoBot | class is KABOOM! |
| 21:54:38 | fragglet | i think picobot likes that one |
| 21:54:39 | fragglet | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:54:40 | PicoBot | no, screw OOP |
| 21:54:48 | fragglet | PicoBot: class? |
| 21:54:48 | PicoBot | its over! its over! stop asking me! leave me alone! |
| 21:55:06 | fragglet | ok picobot |
| 21:55:39 | carpman | "Buy my new book, 1001 ways to abuse an ibot." :) |
| 21:55:47 | fragglet | PicoBot: abuse? |
| 21:55:47 | PicoBot | abuse is a neat side-scrolling 2D action game, ported to Linux and SDL |
| 21:55:53 | fragglet | PicoBot: harassment? |
| 21:55:53 | PicoBot | leave me alone... LEEEAVE ME ALOOONE!! |
| 21:55:59 | DevGirl | mhuwhwauwahuwahwua |
| 21:56:32 | DevGirl | oh, boy, PicoBot is starting to develop inteligence ^^ |
| 21:56:39 | fragglet | PicoBot: no |
| 21:56:39 | PicoBot | no? |
| 21:56:42 | darth_balls | heyhey |
| 21:56:50 | fragglet | PicoBot: no. |
| 21:56:50 | PicoBot | :( |
| 21:56:53 | carpman | PicoBot: inteligence |
| 21:56:54 | PicoBot | carpman: i'm not following you... |
| 21:57:01 | merlin262 | poor PicoBot, too stupid |
| 21:57:02 | merlin262 | =( |
| 21:57:05 | darth_balls | lol |
| 21:57:19 | carpman | PicoBot: the matrix |
| 21:57:20 | PicoBot | i heard the matrix was a great movie |
| 21:57:36 | fragglet | PicoBot: stupidity? |
| 21:57:36 | PicoBot | duhhhh.... fragglet use big words... |
| 21:57:44 | darth_balls | rofl |
| 21:57:53 | carpman | PicoBot: fragglet? |
| 21:57:53 | PicoBot | well, fragglet is at http://fraggle.alkali.org/cam/ or sees dead people |
| 21:58:01 | carpman | PicoBot: fragglet is also the grand abuser of ibots. |
| 21:58:02 | PicoBot | okay, carpman. |
| 21:58:30 | fragglet | PicoBot: no |
| 21:58:30 | PicoBot | :( |
| 21:58:33 | fragglet | PicoBot: no |
| 21:58:33 | PicoBot | NOOOOO! |
| 21:59:18 | darth_balls | pokes gonkulator |
| 21:59:38 | darth_balls | PicoBot : seen gonkulator? |
| 21:59:38 | PicoBot | gonkulator was last seen on #picogui 17 hours, 39 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: is away: sleepy time [Mon Oct 7 23:26:54 2002] |
| 21:59:42 | darth_balls | wow |
| 21:59:45 | captain_proton | kicks the cashiers office |
| 21:59:50 | darth_balls | PicoBot : seen gonkulator{work}? |
| 21:59:50 | PicoBot | gonkulator{work} was last seen on #picogui 5 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: PicoBot: explode thrice [Tue Oct 8 17:00:46 2002] |
| 22:00:04 | darth_balls | pokes gonkulatorwork? |
| 22:00:15 | darth_balls | captain_proton : why the h8? |
| 22:00:19 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 22:00:19 | gonkulator{work} | hi |
| 22:00:21 | fragglet | picobot seen picobot |
| 22:00:21 | PicoBot | I haven't seen 'picobot', fragglet |
| 22:00:28 | file | Hitachi H8 chip? |
| 22:00:34 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: seen ibot |
| 22:00:34 | PicoBot | ibot was last seen on #openzaurus 5 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: kergoth was last seen on #openzaurus 5 hours, 11 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: ;-) [Wed Oct 2 23:24:00 2002] [Wed Oct 2 22:42:21 2002] |
| 22:00:36 | darth_balls | haha... no |
| 22:00:38 | | PicoBot was last seen on #picogui 6 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: tx, good to be back! [Wed Oct 2 02:33:16 2002] |
| 22:00:38 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: seen PicoBot |
| 22:00:46 | gonkulator{work} | sometimes, they see eachother |
| 22:00:48 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:00:49 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse |
| 22:00:49 | captain_proton | darth_balls: gotta pay a bill by tomorrow, i walk up with checkbook in hand - "we're closed" |
| 22:00:55 | DevGirl | :) |
| 22:00:58 | captain_proton | and of course tomorrow i have absolutely no time to go pay it |
| 22:01:06 | darth_balls | captain_proton :ouch |
| 22:01:27 | darth_balls | pokes DevGirl |
| 22:01:30 | darth_balls | ;) |
| 22:01:34 | | ...but recurse is <reply> PicoBot: recurse... |
| 22:01:34 | carpman | ibot: recurse is PicoBot recurse |
| 22:01:41 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: it is set up |
| 22:01:43 | gonkulator{work} | they just don't do it |
| 22:01:45 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:01:45 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse |
| 22:01:47 | | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:01:47 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: recurse |
| 22:01:51 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:01:51 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse |
| 22:01:53 | | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:01:53 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: recurse |
| 22:01:55 | DevGirl | mhuawhawuhwauhawuaw |
| 22:01:56 | gonkulator{work} | see... |
| 22:02:04 | darth_balls | oh, if I wasn't so bored this wouldn't be this amusing |
| 22:02:06 | gonkulator{work} | if they saw eachother, you get instant flood |
| 22:02:18 | darth_balls | lol |
| 22:02:42 | darth_balls | wonders when |
| 22:02:45 | darth_balls | doh! |
| 22:02:47 | DevGirl | pokes darth_balls twice |
| 22:02:51 | darth_balls | ack! |
| 22:03:03 | darth_balls | wonders when Su-chan will start to poing again |
| 22:03:16 | DevGirl | poings Kiki-way |
| 22:03:23 | darth_balls | Kiki? |
| 22:03:32 | fragglet | do picobot and ibot not respond to each other |
| 22:03:42 | DevGirl | The hyperactive ferret from Sluggy Freelance ^^ |
| 22:03:47 | darth_balls | never seen it |
| 22:03:50 | darth_balls | wish I had |
| 22:03:56 | DevGirl | darth_balls: sluggy.com ^^ |
| 22:03:59 | darth_balls | my wizard's familiar is a ferret named wonder ^_^ |
| 22:04:06 | DevGirl | hhehehehe |
| 22:04:08 | gonkulator{work} | fragglet: unfortunately, no |
| 22:04:09 | fragglet | PicoBot: ibothello is <reply> ibot: hello |
| 22:04:09 | PicoBot | OK, fragglet. |
| 22:04:13 | fragglet | PicoBot: ibothello |
| 22:04:14 | PicoBot | ibot: hello |
| 22:04:26 | scanline | Finally! got mplayer in picogui to not-crash |
| 22:04:27 | DevGirl | sluggy is a darn nifty comic ^^ |
| 22:04:31 | captain_proton | bun-bun is better than kiki ... at least for the first few months |
| 22:04:41 | DevGirl | likes kiki a lot |
| 22:04:47 | DevGirl | PicoBot: emulate kiki |
| 22:04:47 | PicoBot | poing! poing! poing! ooooohhhh!!!! shiny widgets!!! |
| 22:04:55 | fragglet | does most sdl stuff work in picogui now |
| 22:04:57 | DevGirl | PicoBot: emulate bun bun |
| 22:04:58 | PicoBot | let me sleep, nerd boy! |
| 22:05:03 | DevGirl | PicoBot: emulate bert |
| 22:05:03 | PicoBot | CROTCH! |
| 22:05:10 | fragglet | PicoBot: emulate me |
| 22:05:10 | PicoBot | fragglet: sorry... |
| 22:05:13 | fragglet | PicoBot: emulate fraggle |
| 22:05:13 | PicoBot | hooray! |
| 22:05:13 | scanline | fragglet: as soon as I finish this round of bugfixes yes |
| 22:05:14 | fragglet | PicoBot: emulate fragglet |
| 22:05:15 | PicoBot | fragglet: what? |
| 22:05:24 | fragglet | scanline: woot |
| 22:05:30 | DevGirl | PicoBot: emulate riff |
| 22:05:31 | PicoBot | emulate? hmm, let me check lalo's notes |
| 22:05:32 | scanline | fragglet: the main problems were with threaded apps or apps that needed to query video modes |
| 22:05:35 | darth_balls | lol |
| 22:05:42 | darth_balls | DevGirl : that's cool |
| 22:05:57 | darth_balls | DevGirl : I like the chloroform scented candle |
| 22:06:05 | lalo | bah |
| 22:06:11 | DevGirl | darth_balls: yeah! |
| 22:06:11 | kergoth | ahhhhhhh |
| 22:06:12 | kergoth | dies |
| 22:06:18 | DevGirl | lalo: Crotch |
| 22:06:19 | lalo | PicoBot: no, emulate riff is <reply> emulate? hmm, let me check PicoBot's notes |
| 22:06:19 | PicoBot | ...but emulate riff is <reply> emulate? hmm, let me check lalo's notes... |
| 22:06:21 | fragglet | ah |
| 22:06:27 | lalo | PicoBot: no, emulate riff is <reply> emulate\? hmm, let me check PicoBot's notes |
| 22:06:27 | PicoBot | ...but emulate riff is <reply> emulate? hmm, let me check lalo's notes... |
| 22:06:32 | lalo | PicoBot: forget emulate riff |
| 22:06:33 | PicoBot | lalo: I forgot emulate riff |
| 22:06:36 | lalo | PicoBot: no, emulate riff is <reply> emulate? hmm, let me check PicoBot's notes |
| 22:06:36 | PicoBot | OK, lalo. |
| 22:06:41 | lalo | PicoBot: emulate riff |
| 22:06:41 | PicoBot | emulate? hmm, let me check PicoBot's notes |
| 22:06:45 | lalo | PicoBot: forget emulate riff |
| 22:06:46 | PicoBot | lalo: I forgot emulate riff |
| 22:06:52 | lalo | PicoBot: no, emulate riff is <reply> emulate? hmm, let me check \my notes |
| 22:06:52 | PicoBot | OK, lalo. |
| 22:06:54 | lalo | PicoBot: emulate riff |
| 22:06:55 | PicoBot | emulate? hmm, let me check my notes |
| 22:06:58 | DevGirl | yay! |
| 22:07:22 | DevGirl | darth_balls: sometimes I feel Bert-like... |
| 22:07:30 | DevGirl | PicoBot: bah! |
| 22:07:31 | PicoBot | Crotch! |
| 22:07:37 | DevGirl | PicoBot: crotch! |
| 22:07:38 | PicoBot | BAH! |
| 22:07:42 | carpman | % |
| 22:07:44 | DevGirl | ^^ see? |
| 22:07:45 | carpman | ack |
| 22:07:46 | carpman | CROTCH |
| 22:07:57 | DevGirl | carpman: BAH! |
| 22:08:14 | carpman | when was bert introduced? |
| 22:08:16 | darth_balls | lol... aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh |
| 22:08:17 | captain_proton | continues the long arduous process of converting all his mp3s to ogg |
| 22:08:21 | darth_balls | I needed that |
| 22:08:56 | DevGirl | carpman: he started to show regularly in KITTEN |
| 22:09:44 | DevGirl | carpman: but I think he have a few jokes before that |
| 22:09:58 | captain_proton | scanline: hmm, interested in a game of golf tomorrow night? (rather thursday morning) |
| 22:09:58 | darth_balls | ROFL... blonde wig on the toaster... |
| 22:10:06 | darth_balls | I dig the ferret |
| 22:10:22 | DevGirl | darth_balls: and you hasn't seen nothing ^^ |
| 22:10:59 | darth_balls | I'm gonna start reading this every day |
| 22:12:05 | DevGirl | darth_balls: start from beggining... You won't regret it ^^ |
| 22:12:29 | DevGirl | and like bert says: My world is a crotch! |
| 22:13:42 | darth_balls | I also like bun-bun |
| 22:13:54 | darth_balls | too bad mages can't have multiple familiars |
| 22:13:58 | darth_balls | hey scanline |
| 22:14:04 | darth_balls | pokes scanline |
| 22:14:19 | scanline | hi |
| 22:14:49 | file | BBL |
| 22:15:29 | DevGirl | darth_balls: mages from Mage: the ascension??? |
| 22:16:33 | nickname_ | whoa |
| 22:16:55 | darth_balls | what happened? |
| 22:17:06 | DevGirl | darth_balls: mages from Mage: the ascension??? |
| 22:17:23 | darth_balls | no, but I do play that game too |
| 22:17:38 | DevGirl | oh! :) |
| 22:17:38 | darth_balls | I'm playin a half-elf mage in D&D 3rd ed. |
| 22:17:43 | DevGirl | yikes! |
| 22:17:53 | DevGirl | don't like D&D |
| 22:17:58 | darth_balls | por que? |
| 22:18:04 | DevGirl | had too many bad DM |
| 22:18:15 | darth_balls | hehe "win95? but Riff, you have a mac." |
| 22:18:20 | darth_balls | aaaahhh, sorry |
| 22:18:21 | merlin262 | scanline? |
| 22:18:26 | scanline | hmm? |
| 22:18:28 | darth_balls | DevGirl : yeah, been there |
| 22:18:37 | merlin262 | the new CVS of sasteroids can switch double spacing on and off |
| 22:18:37 | merlin262 | =) |
| 22:18:45 | scanline | good |
| 22:18:48 | darth_balls | DevGirl : it doesn't take as much creativity on the parts of the players to do D&D... |
| 22:18:51 | DevGirl | darth_balls: you speak portuguese? O.o |
| 22:19:03 | DevGirl | darth_balls: true |
| 22:19:03 | merlin262 | I'll get scalable playing/floating point working tonight hopefully |
| 22:19:06 | darth_balls | DevGirl : no, but I study a brazilian martia art |
| 22:19:13 | DevGirl | :) |
| 22:19:21 | darth_balls | all the kicks etc. are named in portugese ;) |
| 22:19:22 | merlin262 | thinks it'll run nice on PDA's after a few more tweaks |
| 22:19:37 | DevGirl | darth_balls: ahhhh :) capoeira? |
| 22:19:39 | darth_balls | DevGirl :we played some Masquerade over the summer though, I think it's more fun |
| 22:19:44 | darth_balls | DevGirl :yupski |
| 22:19:52 | darth_balls | DevGirl :tore my toe open last saturday ^_^ |
| 22:20:03 | scanline | thinks all anime looks better mapped onto a polygon |
| 22:20:16 | darth_balls | DevGirl :only thing is my gaming friends like to play D&D, cuz it's just hack 'n' slash |
| 22:20:23 | DevGirl | darth_balls: masquerade is fun if the Master is a creative guy |
| 22:20:23 | darth_balls | so I don't do much WoD |
| 22:20:31 | darth_balls | was the story teller |
| 22:20:36 | DevGirl | BAH! |
| 22:20:41 | darth_balls | everyone like it, I think I did pretty good |
| 22:20:43 | darth_balls | CROTCH! |
| 22:20:50 | DevGirl | Don't like hack and slash! |
| 22:20:52 | lalo | capoeira just rocks. |
| 22:20:58 | darth_balls | lalo :yeah it do |
| 22:21:02 | DevGirl | Crotch style of playing ^^ |
| 22:21:03 | darth_balls | most fun MA I've ever studied |
| 22:21:06 | lalo | it's #2 on my list of what I'd study if I had the time or money :-) |
| 22:21:07 | darth_balls | DevGirl :lol |
| 22:21:16 | darth_balls | lalo :#1? |
| 22:21:35 | lalo | Taiji Kuan |
| 22:21:37 | DevGirl | darth_balls: studied some capoeira, when I was younger |
| 22:21:52 | lalo | which I *will* study in the near future as soon as I get out of debt. |
| 22:21:55 | darth_balls | DevGirl :OMG, my players were so cool, they actually blood bonded 12 vampires at once! |
| 22:22:15 | darth_balls | DevGirl :it was such a great idea I forgot to make them roll for anything, but it was a pretty sound plan anyway |
| 22:22:16 | DevGirl | HOW?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 22:22:28 | DevGirl | ^^ |
| 22:22:31 | darth_balls | the vamps were guarding something and they couldn't leave |
| 22:22:35 | captain_proton | ponders food |
| 22:22:54 | darth_balls | so they were having blood shipped to them every night or so |
| 22:23:09 | DevGirl | darth_balls: oh, boys... |
| 22:23:15 | darth_balls | the players just intercepted it between dropoff and pickup and added their blood to it |
| 22:23:24 | darth_balls | it was such a great plan |
| 22:23:36 | darth_balls | they had to make a roll to see if the vamps detected the new blood and no one did |
| 22:23:40 | darth_balls | so it worked |
| 22:23:45 | DevGirl | darth_balls: MUHWAAUWHAWUAHWUAWHAWUHWAWAU I've never had such intelligent players! |
| 22:23:46 | darth_balls | took 'em three days |
| 22:23:47 | carpman | scanline: oh, sorry, was reading sluggy frelance |
| 22:23:54 | scanline | carpman: np :) |
| 22:23:55 | DevGirl | YEAH! |
| 22:23:57 | carpman | and dcc dons't work through my firewall, just e-mail it to me |
| 22:24:00 | darth_balls | but they completely bonded the guys |
| 22:24:18 | DevGirl | we have to change the Topic! |
| 22:24:19 | darth_balls | then Jeremy (a Tzimisce) 'played' with the vamps |
| 22:24:20 | scanline | carpman: nothing too exciting, just lain playing in mplayer in picogui.. I fixed the bug that was making mplayer segfault |
| 22:24:28 | darth_balls | it was gross |
| 22:24:30 | carpman | ooo... wanna see |
| 22:24:32 | darth_balls | anyway, I'm outta here |
| 22:24:39 | darth_balls | gotta go eat pizza at nates |
| 22:24:39 | scanline | carpman: I'll just put it on picogui.org |
| 22:24:42 | darth_balls | c u guys later |
| 22:24:45 | DevGirl | #Picogui - The Sluggy Frelance Channet! |
| 22:24:48 | carpman | bye darth |
| 22:25:00 | DevGirl | #Picogui - The Sluggy Frelance Channel! |
| 22:25:08 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/pglain.png |
| 22:25:24 | carpman | oh |
| 22:25:26 | carpman | hell |
| 22:25:26 | carpman | yes |
| 22:25:31 | lalo | #Picogui - BAH CROTCH! |
| 22:25:41 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:25:44 | captain_proton | scanline: does that work with sdlgl? ;) |
| 22:25:52 | scanline | captain_proton: yep, I just tried it :) |
| 22:25:58 | captain_proton | sexy |
| 22:25:58 | scanline | kinda slow at most resolutions though |
| 22:26:10 | carpman | Qtopia has no chance to survive! |
| 22:26:14 | scanline | right now the code to convert picogui bitmap to opengl texture is slow, and has to be run very often |
| 22:26:20 | captain_proton | hmm, i don't think ogl 1.x does YUV textures ;) |
| 22:26:48 | scanline | carpman: I'll be adding a button to the panelbar on SDL apps to bring up a config menu for things like scrollbars on/off, scaling, and such |
| 22:27:05 | carpman | awesome |
| 22:27:07 | DevGirl | I have to write something to picogui named CROTCH! |
| 22:27:10 | DevGirl | :) |
| 22:27:11 | scanline | captain_proton: picogui doesn't do YUV overlays yet, so SDL's doing YUV->RGB and scaling for me |
| 22:27:14 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:27:32 | carpman | scanline: res_c is getting there. |
| 22:27:41 | scanline | good goo |
| 22:27:43 | scanline | err, good good |
| 22:27:59 | DevGirl | Ok, boys: have to announce that my baby will wear an Aylee shirt in it's first photo ^^ |
| 22:28:01 | scanline | I'll be fixing up the field/textbox too |
| 22:28:07 | scanline | DevGirl: :) |
| 22:28:14 | carpman | just a few more path building erros to fix, and pgl-launcher will be runing totaly on res_c |
| 22:28:26 | scanline | cool, then we can rewrite it in python :) |
| 22:28:39 | carpman | the python version is going to be MUCH easier |
| 22:28:49 | scanline | oh yeah, BTW... |
| 22:28:59 | scanline | on fixing the bug that applets are added in random order |
| 22:29:05 | carpman | oh, yeah? |
| 22:29:19 | scanline | I think pgl-toolbar should create an invisible box widget to hold each applet, then allow the applet to attach there |
| 22:29:29 | scanline | that way the toolbar is completely in control of where each applet goes |
| 22:29:56 | carpman | hmm... ok |
| 22:30:08 | scanline | eventually there will be functionality for rearranging the applets for example |
| 22:30:11 | carpman | I'll worry about that later. |
| 22:30:12 | carpman | right |
| 22:30:14 | scanline | k |
| 22:30:28 | scanline | Not really high priority, but it will change the interface between pgl and applets |
| 22:30:51 | scanline | the applets will attach with PG_S_ALL into those boxes, and have to tell the launcher their preferred position on the toolbar |
| 22:30:57 | scanline | s/launcher/toolbar/ |
| 22:31:14 | scanline | oh yeah.. another note |
| 22:31:20 | fragglet | yay |
| 22:31:33 | fragglet | i wrote a quine using #defines |
| 22:31:36 | scanline | one of the things smartdata has on my todo list is a two-way version of pgAppMessage, sort of like what pgl already uses but easier |
| 22:31:56 | scanline | we can integrate that in at the same time as the new toolbar containers, if the interface is going to break anyway |
| 22:32:03 | scanline | fragglet: hehe, neat |
| 22:32:20 | scanline | hasn't tried to write a quine before |
| 22:32:30 | fragglet | #define QUOTED(x) # x |
| 22:32:30 | fragglet | #define QUINE int main() { puts("#define QUOTED(x) # x"); printf("#define QUINE %s\n", QUINE2); printf("#define QUINE2 QUOTED(%s)\n", QUINE2); puts("QUINE"); } |
| 22:32:30 | fragglet | #define QUINE2 QUOTED(int main() { puts("#define QUOTED(x) # x"); printf("#define QUINE %s\n", QUINE2); printf("#define QUINE2 QUOTED(%s)\n", QUINE2); puts("QUINE"); }) |
| 22:32:30 | fragglet | QUINE |
| 22:32:54 | fragglet | actually i could probably simplify that |
| 22:33:32 | scanline | hm... it would be fun to make a quine that would compile and run its output :) |
| 22:33:38 | fragglet | heheh |
| 22:33:54 | fragglet | there was an obfuscated c entry that had a recursive quine |
| 22:34:00 | fragglet | you ran it and it generated another program |
| 22:34:03 | fragglet | which generated another |
| 22:34:07 | fragglet | which generated the first |
| 22:34:10 | scanline | call it life |
| 22:36:44 | captain_proton | quine? |
| 22:36:56 | fragglet | a quine is a program that prints its own source code |
| 22:37:11 | captain_proton | ahh i always heard that referred to as a selfish program |
| 22:40:17 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/evangelion_sdlgl.png |
| 22:40:47 | fragglet | oops |
| 22:40:55 | fragglet | accidentally pasted the quine in the browser location bar |
| 22:41:05 | carpman | w00t! IT READS! |
| 22:41:28 | carpman | scanline: that is seriously freaking me out. |
| 22:41:47 | file | Tux889 is going to stream on http://stream.file-radio.com:8000/ at 128kbps stereo |
| 22:41:56 | captain_proton | ponders eschewing the cafeteria in favor of a frozen lasanga |
| 22:42:19 | fragglet | in the browser location bar |
| 22:42:25 | fragglet | woops |
| 22:43:00 | file | he's already having problems lol |
| 22:44:04 | scanline | dang.. something sdlgl does just flushes the nvidia driver right down the toilet |
| 22:44:26 | fragglet | heh thats unsurprising |
| 22:44:49 | scanline | seems to do it more often with bitmapped themes.. I was running fluidity when it crashed |
| 22:44:49 | fragglet | seeing as the nvidia driver seems to be tirghtrope walking across it most of the time |
| 22:44:56 | scanline | nods |
| 22:45:24 | carpman | scanline: almost got it, pgl-launcher now rescans the apps directory every time you open it. |
| 22:45:46 | carpman | The time/memory spent doing that is minimal, really, so I decided that was better than having to kill/restart pgl-launcher. |
| 22:46:02 | scanline | carpman: yep. we can always change it if there's a noticeable problem |
| 22:46:11 | file | hi prpplague |
| 22:46:25 | carpman | scanline: yeah, it would actually be a one-liner to change :) |
| 22:47:16 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:48:00 | carpman | scanline: oh, I changed the app.conf format a bit. You dont have to do the variant thing now |
| 22:48:21 | scanline | yay |
| 22:48:29 | carpman | just put in a section with the arch name, and set the executable/options properties |
| 22:48:32 | scanline | looked at the cruft in OZ's pg-apps package yet? :) |
| 22:48:49 | carpman | and for every arch, just put any-arch as the section name |
| 22:48:51 | carpman | scanline: no :) |
| 22:49:22 | carpman | hmm.. going to go for a walk before it starts raining again, bbiab |
| 22:49:24 | carpman | is away: outside |
| 22:57:05 | scanline | dang.. my athlon's been doing a really good job as room heater |
| 22:57:20 | file | lol |
| 23:01:39 | captain_proton | points at scanline's hotplate and laughs |
| 23:02:19 | file | captain_proton: are you in his room or something? |
| 23:02:23 | captain_proton | you could fry an egg or something |
| 23:02:29 | captain_proton | file: nope |
| 23:02:35 | file | go visit him |
| 23:02:37 | captain_proton | is the "shmuck who lives down the hall" |
| 23:02:43 | captain_proton | why? |
| 23:02:50 | file | ...because |
| 23:03:00 | scanline | yeah, I'm not that interesting.. just sitting here debugging clipping code |
| 23:03:04 | captain_proton | thats a good reason |
| 23:03:15 | fragglet | debugging clippy code? |
| 23:03:28 | fragglet | scanline is adding a talking paperclip to picogui! oh noooo |
| 23:03:36 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:03:37 | scanline | >:) |
| 23:03:57 | captain_proton | is gonna do that for gnome someday |
| 23:03:58 | scanline | Now that I can run mplayer, I can use more interesting source material for this... |
| 23:04:00 | scanline | like anime! |
| 23:04:12 | captain_proton | "it looks like you're clicking the foot menu. would you like some help?" |
| 23:04:46 | scanline | "It looks like you've moved the stylus 3 millimeters closer to the touchscreen. Are you sure you want to do that?" |
| 23:05:37 | captain_proton | "it looks like you might be pondering writing a letter! would you like me to open a text editor?" |
| 23:06:12 | scanline | "It looks like you might be thinking about writing a text editor! Would you like me to open emacs and warm up the makefiles?" |
| 23:06:57 | captain_proton | haha emacs |
| 23:06:59 | captain_proton | thats funny |
| 23:07:05 | scanline | I like emacs :P |
| 23:08:25 | carpman | is back (gone 00:19:01) |
| 23:08:42 | carpman | w0ah. Video driver muxed. brb |
| 23:08:58 | carpman | there |
| 23:09:13 | scanline | this is cool... resize and scroll moving video with zero glitches |
| 23:10:09 | lalo | you rule :-) |
| 23:10:14 | carpman | indeed |
| 23:10:16 | scanline | haha |
| 23:10:24 | scanline | some funny clipping bugs... |
| 23:10:39 | lalo | now I will have to put a color lcd on my vr3, then buy a microdrive or .11 |
| 23:10:43 | scanline | right now I'm watching shrek on a 90 degree rotation, and when I scroll it horizontally it goes the wrong direction and wraps around |
| 23:11:37 | lalo | that's a pretty sick thing to do to the poor ogre. |
| 23:11:49 | scanline | :) |
| 23:20:26 | file | grrr |
| 23:20:30 | file | IE is b0rken on my laptop |
| 23:23:12 | Xentac | is back (gone 09:23:27) |
| 23:23:19 | Xentac | starts stage one of his tank cleaning... |
| 23:23:28 | file | is doing a reinstall of all OSes |
| 23:24:04 | Xentac | unless you're installing gentoo mine's gonna take longer... |
| 23:24:23 | Xentac | ta ta... back outside |
| 23:24:29 | file | gonkulator said Gentoo would take 2 days for me |
| 23:27:25 | DevGirl | CROTCH! |
| 23:27:39 | file | DevGirl: yup |
| 23:27:40 | DevGirl | is really bored |
| 23:28:57 | file | wb prpplague |
| 23:35:39 | prpplague | scanline: you around? |
| 23:35:41 | prpplague | scanline: you ever use Xnest? |
| 23:35:57 | scanline | yes |
| 23:36:49 | scanline | Xnest -geometry 240x320 :1 |
| 23:36:54 | scanline | export DISPLAY=:1 |
| 23:38:21 | prpplague | scanline: hmm, i just install Xnest on my home dev box, but i can't seem to get an applications to connect to it |
| 23:38:33 | prpplague | scanline: i get a message about the connect was refused |
| 23:39:00 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:39:10 | prpplague | freakin rhat |
| 23:40:34 | file | installs NT4 Server a second time |
| 23:42:30 | prpplague | this bites, i've never had problems with Xnest before |
| 23:43:02 | kergoth | whispers debian... debian.. |
| 23:43:52 | prpplague | kergoth: ya ya, i'm going that way more every day |
| 23:45:01 | carpman | w00t! The launcher, it launches! |
| 23:45:14 | kergoth | carpman: congrats |
| 23:45:14 | scanline | launch, for great justice! |
| 23:45:26 | carpman | launch every pterm, for great justice! |
| 23:45:40 | scanline | oh, speaking of pterm... |
| 23:45:58 | scanline | I noticed on the zaurus it doesn't run unless I explicitely give it "/bin/sh" as a command line argument.. not sure why yet |
| 23:46:08 | carpman | scanline: ok, where do you want res_c? |
| 23:46:23 | scanline | same place as cli_c I assume |
| 23:46:36 | scanline | top-level module |
| 23:47:31 | lalo | declares that carpman rules too. |
| 23:47:42 | scanline | :) |
| 23:47:45 | carpman | ok, let me rename resC to res, and clean up the printfs, and I'll uplaod |
| 23:47:48 | carpman | lalo: thanks :) |
| 23:48:00 | scanline | lalo: hey, you're the one who wrote cli_python :) |
| 23:48:04 | scanline | cli_python rocks |
| 23:48:12 | lalo | I know. :-) thanks |
| 23:48:18 | scanline | I'm looking forward to using it extensively on PDAs |
| 23:48:34 | lalo | IMNSHO it is the best software design I did to date. |
| 23:48:41 | scanline | cool :) |
| 23:48:53 | scanline | It will be awesome to define PGL applets with a few lines of python |
| 23:48:54 | lalo | but res_c is something I've been missing |
| 23:49:15 | lalo | and I'm eager to rewrite vr3silk (perhaps with a new name) and perhaps pqw using it |
| 23:49:32 | scanline | I'm also glad that there are people like carpman and lalo here to write client-side code while I have my head stuck in pgserver as usual :) |
| 23:49:43 | carpman | >:) |
| 23:50:01 | lalo | I'd like to have a PGLApplet.py module with a corresponding subclass of Application |
| 23:50:30 | lalo | but I never got around to it, and it turned out to be a good thing since pgl was/isbeing rewritten |
| 23:50:47 | scanline | mmm... create PGLApplet, set theme object, set handler... instant toolbar applet |
| 23:52:54 | carpman | ok, I have not tested the code intended to load the resources into memory for dumping into pgFromMemory, and I don't have the picogui specific functions in yet, but thats forthcoming. |
| 23:52:58 | carpman | At least we have something now. |
| 23:53:51 | carpman | what was the -d option I need to supply? |
| 23:54:14 | carpman | nm |
| 23:55:07 | carpman | umm. ok. |
| 23:55:11 | carpman | how do I make a new module? |
| 23:57:11 | scanline | hm.. I have the top level CVS tree checked out, so I just do a "cvs add" there... I think "cvs import" will also do the trick, but I dont' remember the syntax |
| 23:57:55 | lalo | cvs import is a bit of a pain :-) |
| 23:58:07 | lalo | you can use cvs -d "youknowwhattowritehere" add |
| 23:58:46 | scanline | If you check out the picogui tree with 'co .' you'll get all the modules, plus the current directory will be part of the CVS repository |
| 23:59:23 | lalo | but you also get an outdated version of the site, and CVSROOT |
