| 00:00:32 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot ought to have a link to slashdot in his response. it'd make my life easier, and that's good. |
| 00:00:32 | PicoBot | KeyserSoze: excuse me? |
| 00:00:36 | captain_proton | scanline is a lazy biotch |
| 00:00:39 | KeyserSoze | you heard me. |
| 00:00:43 | file | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/07/0813208&mode=thread&tid=129 |
| 00:01:10 | quarkquasar | whois captain_proton |
| 00:01:13 | prpplague | argh, thats insane |
| 00:01:25 | KeyserSoze | what's left on SciFi? they cancelled Lexx, too. |
| 00:01:29 | prpplague | i can't believe that |
| 00:01:37 | prpplague | what the hell would they do that for? |
| 00:01:43 | file | dunno |
| 00:01:51 | gonkey{iBook} | quarkquasar: I just me captain_proton |
| 00:01:55 | file | KeyserSoze: I thought that semi-came back |
| 00:02:00 | prpplague | scifi has got to have to worst record for killing good shows |
| 00:02:03 | file | and Lexx was Canadian :) |
| 00:02:06 | captain_proton | is the fool that lives down the hall from scanline |
| 00:02:11 | captain_proton | and /me is also leaving to go eat food |
| 00:02:14 | KeyserSoze | file: I know, but I liked it anyway. |
| 00:02:19 | file | KeyserSoze: :) |
| 00:02:34 | KeyserSoze | captain_proton: whatcha gonna eat? |
| 00:02:43 | captain_proton | KeyserSoze: whatever they're serving |
| 00:02:55 | gonkey{iBook} | KeyserSoze: it has a 44% chance of being edible |
| 00:02:57 | KeyserSoze | last ate an oatmeal raisin cookie, but that was hours ago. |
| 00:03:11 | KeyserSoze | cafeteria? |
| 00:03:17 | KeyserSoze | my condolonces. |
| 00:03:27 | file | my cafeteria serves great food |
| 00:03:39 | KeyserSoze | s/condolonces/condolences? |
| 00:03:53 | file | I eat there everyday, a nice chicken sub with lettuce... tomatoes... mayonaise... pickles... onions... 2 glasses of chocolate milk and a bag of Zesty Cheese Doritos |
| 00:03:56 | gonkey{iBook} | file: all food tastes good when your st0ned |
| 00:04:00 | quarkquasar | i eat @ the Unoin |
| 00:04:08 | quarkquasar | Union* |
| 00:04:10 | file | gonkey{iBook}: strangely I've never been stoned |
| 00:04:11 | KeyserSoze | wants chocolate milk! |
| 00:04:26 | gonkey{iBook} | file: I know, you just look it, and it is kinda fun to poke fun |
| 00:04:36 | KeyserSoze | stone | file |
| 00:04:41 | file | gonkey{iBook}: I know |
| 00:04:56 | gonkey{iBook} | doesn't want to cause harm to his favorite canadian |
| 00:05:06 | KeyserSoze | alan thicke? |
| 00:05:46 | quarkquasar | notes that KeyserSoze is a media buff |
| 00:05:50 | prpplague | file: i can't believe this, even my son love scorpious |
| 00:05:58 | Sophie | he's a slut too |
| 00:06:02 | Sophie | that dirty boy |
| 00:06:12 | KeyserSoze | er, sophie meant me, not prpplague's son. |
| 00:06:13 | gonkey{iBook} | KeyserSoze: I just had some chocolate milk that would offend a pidgeon |
| 00:06:18 | prpplague | KeyserSoze: yaya |
| 00:06:33 | prpplague | upset |
| 00:06:44 | KeyserSoze | how many seasons was it on? |
| 00:06:52 | gonkey{iBook} | KeyserSoze: I dunno |
| 00:06:58 | gonkey{iBook} | it tasted ok, but it is talking to me now |
| 00:07:00 | Sophie | probes prpplague |
| 00:07:11 | file | is watching show... |
| 00:07:13 | prpplague | let see, seems like 5 |
| 00:07:16 | file | can't talk... |
| 00:07:21 | file | Farscape taken over /dev/brain' |
| 00:07:27 | file | twitches and drifts into Farscape |
| 00:07:33 | prpplague | Sophie: ahh i hope your a linuxchic if your doing any probing |
| 00:09:10 | KeyserSoze | looks at motherboard pics, trying to spot the serial ATA connectors, and realizes they are too small to see. |
| 00:10:35 | quarkquasar | twitches |
| 00:12:47 | quarkquasar | throws darts @ a picture of Bill Gates |
| 00:12:56 | quarkquasar | sharp ones |
| 00:13:29 | prpplague | quarkquasar: cool |
| 00:13:39 | prpplague | quarkquasar: got no lasers around there |
| 00:13:41 | quarkquasar | :)\ |
| 00:13:41 | quarkquasar | :) |
| 00:14:10 | prpplague | quarkquasar: i need don't you astro guys use some high power lasers for targeting, lol |
| 00:14:15 | merlin262 | Birthday Channel eh? |
| 00:14:17 | merlin262 | hey carpman |
| 00:14:36 | merlin262 | will send file a donation as soon as he upgrades. =D |
| 00:14:55 | prpplague | quarkquasar: seems like i read something about using lasers to ofset atmospheric distortion |
| 00:14:57 | quarkquasar | prpplague: um, mostly radio telescopes but yes lasers too |
| 00:15:12 | quarkquasar | i think i misheard |
| 00:15:32 | quarkquasar | yes we do use lasers |
| 00:15:46 | quarkquasar | but not metal cutting(duh) |
| 00:16:11 | quarkquasar | regular green/blue/red lasers |
| 00:17:11 | KeyserSoze | quarkquasar: you're into astronomy? |
| 00:17:12 | quarkquasar | although their high-presicion |
| 00:17:38 | quarkquasar | KeyserSoze: yes, astrophysics |
| 00:17:51 | KeyserSoze | cool. are you in school now? |
| 00:18:43 | quarkquasar | KeyserSoze: instuctor |
| 00:18:51 | quarkquasar | freelance |
| 00:19:27 | KeyserSoze | helped some guys take down a few 16' and 23' parabolic antennae, to use for radio astronomy, but we haven't put them back up yet. Got them free from a telecomm, just to take them away. |
| 00:19:34 | quarkquasar | 's eyes are tired |
| 00:19:46 | quarkquasar | cool |
| 00:19:56 | KeyserSoze | quarkquasar: where do you instruct? |
| 00:20:04 | quarkquasar | ASU |
| 00:20:16 | KeyserSoze | asu=arizona state? |
| 00:20:26 | quarkquasar | yes |
| 00:20:39 | quarkquasar | but like i said freelance |
| 00:20:53 | quarkquasar | i go to any college |
| 00:21:03 | quarkquasar | to instruct |
| 00:21:35 | quarkquasar | or research |
| 00:21:38 | KeyserSoze | what kind of gigs can you get with a degree in astrophysics? teaching mostly? |
| 00:21:49 | quarkquasar | yeah |
| 00:22:39 | quarkquasar | look, sorry but i am not in the mood to talk about my career |
| 00:22:48 | KeyserSoze | sorry. |
| 00:23:00 | quarkquasar | no problem |
| 00:23:07 | quarkquasar | many ask |
| 00:23:21 | quarkquasar | i sound like an indian |
| 00:23:39 | quarkquasar | now i know i'm tired |
| 00:23:59 | quarkquasar | er, drowsy |
| 00:24:25 | quarkquasar | had to take benadyrl |
| 00:24:56 | KeyserSoze | benadryl is fun, unless you are trying to stay awake. |
| 00:25:29 | quarkquasar | yeah, but i have taekwondo in 15 minutes |
| 00:25:33 | prpplague | yeeee dogggie |
| 00:25:35 | prpplague | man that was fun |
| 00:25:45 | quarkquasar | that time to drive there |
| 00:26:00 | prpplague | dam near electrocuted my dog |
| 00:26:20 | prpplague | she apparently thought there was some food in cpu case |
| 00:26:26 | KeyserSoze | that's not nice. good thing he got away. |
| 00:26:36 | KeyserSoze | oh, accidentally. gotcha. |
| 00:27:11 | quarkquasar | seeya(taekwondo, learn that form) |
| 00:27:22 | prpplague | quarkquasar: later |
| 00:27:32 | quarkquasar | later |
| 00:27:57 | prpplague | anyone up for a hot dog, lol |
| 00:36:41 | captain_proton | grumble. grumble. grumble. mutiny. mutiny. mutiny. |
| 00:36:52 | KeyserSoze | bad cafeteria food? |
| 00:37:41 | captain_proton | i've never before had chalky pizza |
| 00:38:14 | KeyserSoze | contemplates a gainward "golden sample" GF4 ti4200. it has 3.3ns memory (so it ought to overclock like a bastard), but only 64mb, not 128mb. |
| 00:39:04 | KeyserSoze | 64mb cards benchmark as well as 128mb cards, with today's games. but would I regret the 64mb in 3 months? |
| 00:39:31 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: I doubt it. :/ |
| 00:40:12 | Sophie | mm Zero 7. |
| 00:40:50 | KeyserSoze | which one? Sean Connery? Roger Moore? Pierce Brosnan? |
| 00:41:00 | KeyserSoze | er, wait, that's zero-zero-7. |
| 00:41:15 | Sophie | ;) |
| 00:41:50 | carpman | hi merlin262 |
| 00:41:54 | carpman | didn't see you come in |
| 00:42:41 | merlin262 | carpman: I'm trying to finish up on Sasteroids this weekend. |
| 00:42:59 | carpman | merlin262: you can do it! :) |
| 00:43:05 | merlin262 | lol |
| 00:44:36 | captain_proton | scanline better wake his ass up for the bad-sci-fi night |
| 00:46:03 | carpman | captain_proton: plan 9? |
| 00:46:32 | carpman | its not worth waking up for if they aren't playing plan 9 |
| 00:47:06 | merlin262 | you add a timer... it all fecks up |
| 00:48:32 | carpman | merlin262: if you get sasteroids finished, I'll play it on sasami during comp org :) |
| 00:48:49 | merlin262 | that your laptop? |
| 00:48:49 | merlin262 | lol |
| 00:49:07 | KeyserSoze | anyone notice that bc sucks? |
| 00:49:40 | carpman | bc... headache medacine, the comic, the calculator... |
| 00:49:56 | KeyserSoze | the calculator. you forgot British Columbia, though. |
| 00:50:05 | carpman | merlin262: yeah |
| 00:50:15 | KeyserSoze | unless that was an exhausting list, and not an exhaustive one. |
| 00:50:31 | captain_proton | carpman: even better...space 1999 episodes |
| 00:50:39 | merlin262 | bc??? the program? |
| 00:50:41 | merlin262 | runs bc |
| 00:50:42 | carpman | screams and pukes. |
| 00:50:47 | carpman | NOT THAT! |
| 00:51:06 | carpman | Thats not bad-sci-fi, thats DEATH ITSELF!!! |
| 00:51:29 | carpman | Thats almost as bad as... *gasp* G-Gundam! |
| 00:51:51 | KeyserSoze | intensely dislikes "scale" in bc. |
| 00:52:14 | merlin262 | kills SDL_Tiemr.... |
| 00:52:19 | carpman | I swear, I almost put my broadsword through my tv today watching G-Gundam. |
| 00:52:37 | carpman | "My powerful glowing fingers will defeat you!" - quote from show. |
| 00:52:47 | KeyserSoze | and I hate that I can't use "e" to denote orders of magnitude. |
| 00:53:04 | KeyserSoze | 3.3e-9 is sooo much cleaner than 3.3*10^(-9) |
| 00:53:23 | merlin262 | apt-get remove's SDL_Timer |
| 00:53:39 | carpman | merlin262: hehe, getting a little irate at it? |
| 00:53:46 | merlin262 | Grrrrrrr |
| 00:53:53 | merlin262 | uses getitimer instead. =D |
| 00:54:05 | merlin262 | I gotta feck up the Windows People Anywho.... :/ |
| 00:54:16 | carpman | Some things dont need a SDL wrapper |
| 00:55:20 | merlin262 | yep. |
| 00:55:21 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 01:02:06 | carpman | well, night all |
| 01:03:30 | file | hrms |
| 01:37:01 | Xentac | cries on everyone's shoulder... |
| 01:37:03 | Xentac | is back (gone 01:57:23) |
| 01:37:12 | KeyserSoze | how'd it go? |
| 01:37:28 | Xentac | the rust is worse than we thought (though that seems to be the problem) |
| 01:37:40 | Xentac | it's going to take, more or less, a week's worth of treating... |
| 01:37:47 | KeyserSoze | treating how? |
| 01:37:51 | KeyserSoze | gas additive? |
| 01:37:56 | Xentac | no no... |
| 01:38:06 | Xentac | cleaning with different cleaners |
| 01:38:08 | Xentac | then coating the tank |
| 01:38:15 | KeyserSoze | is the tank on the bike? |
| 01:38:26 | KeyserSoze | coating the inside or the outside? |
| 01:38:27 | Xentac | think... painting the rust... so that it doesn't come off |
| 01:38:30 | Xentac | inside |
| 01:38:33 | Xentac | it's rusty on the inside |
| 01:38:38 | Xentac | the outside looks beautiful |
| 01:38:59 | KeyserSoze | so you're not removing the rust, you're sealing it, so it can't get sucked into the engine? |
| 01:39:15 | Xentac | and it can't get worse |
| 01:39:24 | Xentac | if you seal it then it can't rust anymore |
| 01:39:33 | KeyserSoze | I guess a new gas tank must be pretty pricey. |
| 01:39:41 | Xentac | not sure... |
| 01:39:47 | Xentac | we're going to look on ebay in a bit |
| 01:40:07 | Xentac | but it's gotta be the right colour... |
| 01:40:33 | Xentac | it's not the rust getting into the engine... it's the rust clogging up the fuel filters and stuff |
| 01:40:37 | Xentac | there's one that comes right out of the tank |
| 01:40:45 | Xentac | it's a reserve switch thing |
| 01:40:49 | Xentac | that's the one that's clogged in this case |
| 01:41:00 | KeyserSoze | can you see inside the tank? |
| 01:41:11 | Xentac | sort of |
| 01:41:16 | Xentac | you can see through the top |
| 01:41:21 | Xentac | certain angles |
| 01:41:35 | Xentac | but the reserve thing was gummed up when we pulled it out |
| 01:41:40 | Xentac | it was gummed up bad |
| 01:42:13 | KeyserSoze | i'm curious if the rust is all over, or if it is at a certain height, were the fuel level was. anything below it would be in gasoline, so it wouldn't rust, and anything above it would not have any liquid touching it (gas or water), so it wouldn't rust. |
| 01:42:29 | Xentac | I hear what you're saying |
| 01:42:33 | Xentac | but it's basically all rusty |
| 01:42:35 | Xentac | condensation... |
| 01:43:08 | Xentac[laptop] | is on his laptop now. |
| 01:44:08 | Xentac[laptop] | (BTW - gas doesn't rust the tank... so when you store a bike you fill it up) |
| 02:48:31 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 02:48:32 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 59 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: hi prpplague [Fri Oct 4 17:55:46 2002] |
| 02:49:31 | Xentac[laptop] | hey gonkulator |
| 02:49:36 | gonkulator | hi Xentac[laptop] |
| 02:49:37 | Xentac[laptop] | crys on gonkulator's shoulder. |
| 02:49:42 | gonkulator | whats wrong? |
| 02:49:43 | Xentac[laptop] | my bike... |
| 02:49:48 | Xentac[laptop] | it'll take a week.. |
| 02:49:56 | Xentac[laptop] | to be able to ride it again... |
| 02:50:02 | gonkulator | why is that? |
| 02:50:07 | gonkulator | did you break something important? |
| 02:50:10 | Xentac[laptop] | we have to clean the tank... and treat it |
| 02:50:13 | Xentac[laptop] | it was broken when I got it |
| 02:50:16 | Xentac[laptop] | it was rusty as hell |
| 02:50:25 | gonkulator | oh my... |
| 02:50:33 | gonkulator | was it still a good deal for the money? |
| 02:50:56 | Xentac[laptop] | if that's the only problem with it, then yes... it was still a good deal |
| 02:51:55 | Xentac[laptop] | we have to clean all the crap out |
| 02:51:58 | Xentac[laptop] | prepare it to be treated |
| 02:52:00 | Xentac[laptop] | and then treat it |
| 02:53:36 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 02:53:41 | gonkulator | feels like crap too |
| 02:53:49 | Xentac[laptop] | how come? |
| 02:53:53 | Xentac[laptop] | has trouble typing tonight... |
| 02:53:57 | gonkulator | scanline is asleep |
| 02:54:09 | Xentac[laptop] | and you feel like crap because of that...? |
| 02:54:12 | gonkulator | was looking forward to having lots of fun staying up late with him tonight |
| 02:54:30 | gonkulator | it was the first free friday I had to go up to boulder in a little over a month |
| 02:54:36 | Xentac[laptop] | ah |
| 02:54:38 | Xentac[laptop] | I see |
| 02:54:41 | Xentac[laptop] | well then... |
| 02:54:43 | Xentac[laptop] | kick him... |
| 02:54:44 | gonkulator | anyway, it isn't a big deal |
| 02:54:45 | Xentac[laptop] | hard! |
| 02:54:52 | Xentac[laptop] | feeling lonely? |
| 02:54:52 | gonkulator | naw, he needs his sleep |
| 02:54:55 | gonkulator | and I need mine |
| 02:55:02 | gonkulator | a bit, yeah |
| 02:55:17 | Xentac[laptop] | you have no idea how much I understand |
| 02:55:34 | gonkulator | I haven't felt this way in a really long time |
| 02:55:38 | gonkulator | like before I was 10 |
| 02:55:42 | Xentac[laptop] | nods. |
| 02:55:43 | Xentac[laptop] | really... |
| 04:00:18 | Xentac[laptop] | my laptop is going to die soon |
| 04:00:25 | Xentac[laptop] | so I'm going to take it down now |
| 04:00:26 | Xentac[laptop] | ta ta |
| 04:35:25 | captain_proton | good morning scanline |
| 04:35:31 | scanline | morning! |
| 04:35:36 | scanline | feels nice and rested |
| 04:35:56 | captain_proton | your friend got lost in the hallway |
| 04:36:25 | scanline | heh.. did he come bother you? |
| 04:52:05 | captain_proton | for a short while |
| 04:56:59 | captain_proton | scanline: after this game of literati finishes, you should come - we're pondering ZARDOZ ;) |
| 04:57:15 | scanline | I already watched it :) |
| 04:57:28 | captain_proton | hmmmm |
| 05:05:47 | Xentac | returnth. |
| 05:05:57 | Xentac | anyone in here seen Pleasantville? |
| 05:06:03 | scanline | yes |
| 05:06:32 | Xentac | what did you think of it? |
| 05:06:35 | Xentac | liked it very much. |
| 05:06:43 | scanline | I thought it was a cool movie |
| 05:06:52 | scanline | should get a copy of it |
| 05:07:19 | Xentac | one of the really great things about it is that it's a good movie, without being a perfect world sort of movie |
| 05:08:37 | Xentac | that... and I've always had a thing for innocent 50s teens |
| 05:08:46 | scanline | ha |
| 05:10:15 | Xentac | if I had a woman... who didn't mind doing the whole innocent 50s teen thing (though... I don't know how well it would work if they actually weren't innocent... or a really good actress)... oh man... that'd be nice |
| 05:15:21 | captain_proton | hmm, we already watched the worst episode ever of blakes7... |
| 05:15:22 | captain_proton | thinks |
| 05:15:50 | Xentac | goes to bed now... cause he has to teach kids tomorrow |
| 05:15:59 | Xentac | is away: sleeping |
| 05:34:18 | captain_proton | scanline: looks like we're gonna do a public showing of the premier of SPACE: 1999 - interested? |
| 05:35:01 | scanline | not really.. I've already seen it, and I'm having a jolly good time debuggin def_multiblit() |
| 05:54:52 | captain_proton | kicks SNMP |
| 06:16:38 | captain_proton | hmm, i wonder if the EC is open |
| 06:16:49 | scanline | it's always open |
| 06:18:47 | captain_proton | scanline: available to help me reverse-engineer an airport? |
| 06:19:12 | scanline | bah |
| 06:19:19 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:21:09 | captain_proton | maybe later :) |
| 13:04:14 | Xentac | is back (gone 07:48:15) |
| 14:02:13 | file | turns 16 tomorrow |
| 14:12:34 | Sophie | feels old |
| 14:12:52 | file | ...you are |
| 14:13:04 | Sophie | *sob* |
| 14:37:52 | merlin262 | Welcome Back file |
| 14:38:18 | file | thanks |
| 14:38:24 | file | my ISP forced a disconnect... |
| 14:43:00 | merlin262 | ewwwwww |
| 14:43:00 | file | yeah |
| 14:43:50 | merlin262 | dialup? |
| 14:44:06 | file | no |
| 14:44:10 | file | PPPoE |
| 14:54:18 | file | son of a macaroni and cheese... can't get this working :| |
| 14:54:19 | file | mmm' |
| 14:58:00 | carpman | hi all |
| 14:58:49 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 14:59:25 | file | hail carpman |
| 15:00:07 | file | is tempted to reinstall Windows 95 on his laptop |
| 15:00:35 | file | plug and play is so tempting |
| 15:20:51 | scanline | PicoGUI needs a standard way to handle icons... |
| 15:21:23 | scanline | maybe theme objects beginning with "icon/" |
| 15:24:35 | | OK, scanline. |
| 15:24:35 | scanline | ibot: oz bk push is bk push http://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot |
| 15:27:15 | merlin262 | hi scanline, DevGirl[out] |
| 15:27:17 | merlin262 | er carpman |
| 15:27:21 | scanline | hi merlin262 |
| 15:27:31 | scanline | hmm.. maybe we should adapt the KDE icon naming scheme |
| 15:27:34 | merlin262 | on your standard PDA, you only have 256 color, no? |
| 15:27:40 | scanline | wants purdy icons for his zaurus dammit! |
| 15:27:49 | merlin262 | s/standard/standard color/ |
| 15:27:58 | scanline | merlin262: the zaurus is 16-bit color, ipaq is 12-bit, VR3 is 16-grays |
| 15:28:16 | merlin262 | are they pallatized? |
| 15:28:18 | scanline | no |
| 15:28:29 | merlin262 | w00t, I won't have to make any changes. =D |
| 15:28:43 | scanline | what's up |
| 15:28:44 | scanline | ? |
| 15:28:51 | merlin262 | finishing up sasteroids |
| 15:29:01 | scanline | ah, ok |
| 15:29:03 | carpman | hi merlin262 |
| 15:29:21 | scanline | merlin262: I just made an OZ package for SDL, I could try sasteroids on my zaurus :) |
| 15:29:32 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 15:29:57 | merlin262 | I think there are only 2 problem right now w/ a port to PDAs: floating point math, fonts... |
| 15:30:18 | carpman | ok, zimage, inird and bootflags downloaded |
| 15:30:36 | scanline | carpman: which ones? |
| 15:31:29 | scanline | carpman: you want these picogui ipks? :) |
| 15:33:35 | carpman | scanline: the latest initrd, and the zImage-40-24 kernel |
| 15:33:41 | carpman | what do I do with bootflags? |
| 15:33:54 | prpplague | carpman: doesn't really matter |
| 15:33:56 | carpman | k |
| 15:34:08 | prpplague | carpman: echo "hello" > bootflags.txt |
| 15:34:13 | scanline | carpman: the one from the sourceforge download? that's not really the latest, just the latest release :) |
| 15:34:22 | prpplague | carpman: i assume your talking about the z |
| 15:34:27 | carpman | prpplague: right. |
| 15:34:29 | scanline | carpman: assuming this works for you, you should snag the OZ build system and try compiling things yourself |
| 15:34:38 | carpman | prpplague: just have it in /mnt/cf? |
| 15:35:11 | prpplague | carpman: you put the three files on the cf card, then you have go through a flash procedure |
| 15:35:16 | carpman | right |
| 15:35:30 | carpman | ok, all files in the root dir, renamed per INSTALL, ready to do |
| 15:35:32 | carpman | err, go |
| 15:36:00 | prpplague | carpman: have fun, my fingers are way tooo big to hold down c and d at the same time without getting other keys |
| 15:37:11 | carpman | hehe, took like 4 tries |
| 15:37:15 | carpman | I was getting worried. |
| 15:37:55 | carpman | This reminds me alot of working on the Helio |
| 15:38:24 | carpman | make image, hit insane key combo, hope nothing explodes... lather rinse repeat. |
| 15:38:30 | scanline | carpman: there's still a ton of bugs in these picogui ipks, but they're sorta almost kinda usable |
| 15:38:47 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:38:48 | carpman | scanline: is the new theme in there? |
| 15:38:54 | scanline | yes |
| 15:38:57 | scanline | just added that |
| 15:38:59 | carpman | w00t^2 |
| 15:39:13 | prpplague | scanline: are you using the latest buildroot? |
| 15:39:18 | scanline | everything here is compiled from CVS automatically, so it's easy to rebuild the ipks when stuff in picogui.org CVS changes |
| 15:39:20 | prpplague | for oz i mean? |
| 15:39:37 | scanline | prpplague: yes, I have read/write access to the bitkeeper tree |
| 15:39:51 | carpman | wow, that was cool |
| 15:40:06 | scanline | carpman: boot logo? :) |
| 15:40:11 | carpman | scanline: yes |
| 15:40:34 | prpplague | scanline: cool, i'm missing something on the latest build, my build goes through but doesn't create the initrd file |
| 15:41:11 | scanline | prpplague: I haven't tried a complete build in several days, I've just been building my packages |
| 15:44:45 | prpplague | hmm |
| 15:45:10 | Keyser[zzz] | is disturbed by seeing scanline talk about icons in the backlog. |
| 15:45:20 | KeyserSoze | what is the world coming to? |
| 15:46:04 | file | reinstall in progress |
| 15:46:10 | scanline | I just want something better than these ugly black&white icons for PGL :P |
| 15:46:29 | file | Please wait while we sell your soul. |
| 15:47:13 | KeyserSoze | scanline: icons in a menu, or on the desktop? |
| 15:47:22 | scanline | toolbar buttons |
| 15:47:36 | KeyserSoze | ah, well, that's okay then. |
| 15:48:07 | scanline | hahaha.. you thought I meant the kind you can drag, and have to double-click? |
| 15:48:23 | KeyserSoze | yup. i was scared for a minute there. |
| 15:50:34 | prpplague | scanline: as soon as our nda expires on the aml unit i want to see if i can get approval to send one to you to get pg running |
| 15:50:50 | scanline | prpplague: spiffy, more hardware is good hardware :) |
| 15:53:06 | KeyserSoze | gonkulator around? |
| 15:53:50 | KeyserSoze | he's not in the channel list, so i guess not. |
| 15:59:13 | scanline | is away: Dave... my mind is going... |
| 15:59:16 | merlin262 | w00t, I've submitted the proejct to sourceforge, so in a couple days I should have sasteroids up! |
| 15:59:33 | merlin262 | Now... for the picogui port. =D |
| 15:59:47 | Keyser[a] | is it like asteroids, but sassier? |
| 16:00:16 | merlin262 | It's a port of "Sasteroids", which was released in 1994. |
| 16:00:23 | merlin262 | I say port.... ermm.... revision |
| 16:03:40 | prpplague | man, i'm just now getting where i feel really good about using cvs and everyone is moving to bk |
| 16:04:04 | merlin262 | most projects still use cvs |
| 16:04:16 | merlin262 | except the linux kernel... |
| 16:04:18 | scanline | prpplague: I think the only "everyone" in this case is linux and OZ |
| 16:04:24 | scanline | I still use CVS... |
| 16:05:41 | prpplague | scanline: and gpe |
| 16:05:46 | scanline | oh |
| 16:06:48 | prpplague | scanline: as much as i hate to, i'm going to throwin with the gpe gang |
| 16:07:03 | scanline | k |
| 16:07:39 | prpplague | i wish i could get a fltk project similiar to gpe but i just don't have the time |
| 16:11:59 | carpman | whacks file with an intelivision |
| 16:38:06 | scanline | is away: museum |
| 16:38:19 | merlin262 | gpe? |
| 16:38:51 | merlin262 | blehhhhhhhhhhh! gtk + X11 on a palmtop? |
| 16:38:54 | merlin262 | insanity! |
| 16:39:10 | prpplague | merlin262: why? |
| 16:39:27 | merlin262 | too bloated |
| 16:40:28 | prpplague | merlin262: and opie isn't bloated? |
| 16:41:09 | merlin262 | well, yes.... |
| 16:41:42 | merlin262 | but gtk has a lot of baggage |
| 16:42:27 | merlin262 | I guess pda's are getting more memory/cpu usage now |
| 16:42:33 | merlin262 | so, it probably isn't as big a deal. |
| 16:43:53 | merlin262 | X on a PDA just seems Wrong tho. |
| 16:45:45 | prpplague | hmm, i just like the fact that i have so much software that i can use |
| 16:46:04 | merlin262 | Write Some! =D |
| 16:46:30 | prpplague | merlin262: i haven't got time to write everything i need |
| 16:46:46 | merlin262 | yeah.. that is kindof a suck... |
| 16:54:19 | carpman | is away: work |
| 17:23:28 | merlin262 | Welcome Back file[ADSL] |
| 17:58:20 | laodamas | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
| 17:58:20 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 20 minutes and 13 seconds ago, saying: is away: museum [Sat Oct 5 11:44:38 2002] |
| 18:02:28 | file | well for the love of, I can't download IE |
| 18:02:33 | file | gets to 3325 KB and stops |
| 18:40:13 | Xentac | hey all |
| 18:40:21 | prpplague | hey xen |
| 18:40:47 | prpplague | hmm isnt xentac a drug? ohh wait thats zantac |
| 18:40:58 | Xentac | yeah... zantac is the drug... |
| 18:41:21 | prpplague | Xentac: what up today? |
| 18:41:25 | Xentac | thinks he's going to go and play some monkey island or something... |
| 18:41:31 | Xentac | doesn't really feel like sitting at the computer today... |
| 18:41:40 | Xentac | prpplague: did you see the picture of my new bike? |
| 18:41:51 | prpplague | Xentac: negative |
| 18:41:59 | Xentac | http://xentac.net:8085/gallery/shadow |
| 18:43:56 | Xentac | the problem is that the tank is rusted because it's been sitting for so long (it has 1700 kms on the odometer... and it's a 94) |
| 18:44:03 | Xentac | so I have to spend a week cleaning it... |
| 18:44:06 | Xentac | and then treating it |
| 18:44:40 | prpplague | fun |
| 18:45:02 | prpplague | Xentac: dam who is that ugly bastard on it? |
| 18:45:07 | Xentac | prpplague: :P |
| 18:45:22 | Xentac | me! |
| 18:45:47 | prpplague | Xentac: looks pretty cool, maybe that will offset your looks when i comes to the chicks :) |
| 18:45:54 | prpplague | s/i/it |
| 18:46:01 | Xentac | ha ha |
| 18:46:04 | prpplague | Xentac: jk |
| 18:46:20 | prpplague | Xentac: i only harrass friends |
| 18:46:27 | Xentac | whatever |
| 18:46:28 | Xentac | it's all good |
| 18:46:39 | Xentac | goes really care about being harassed right now anyway |
| 18:46:47 | Xentac | had some good classes today |
| 18:47:04 | prpplague | classes? |
| 18:47:58 | Xentac | teaches karate |
| 18:48:10 | Xentac | and yeah... the classes that I taught went well |
| 18:48:27 | prpplague | Xentac: ahh |
| 18:48:42 | prpplague | Xentac: kids? |
| 18:49:30 | Xentac | correct |
| 18:49:38 | Xentac | 6 years an up |
| 18:49:42 | Xentac | two classes... |
| 18:49:50 | Xentac | one is white belts.. the other is orange and above |
| 18:50:07 | Xentac | the orange belt class is pretty much 10 and up |
| 18:50:16 | prpplague | Xentac: get any with ADD? |
| 18:51:02 | Xentac | actually... this time it was pretty good |
| 18:51:10 | Xentac | I don't think I did |
| 18:53:36 | prpplague | Xentac: lol, the reason i ask is my son is very hyper i was considering maybe sending him the karate lessons to help with his mental focus |
| 18:53:54 | Xentac | as long as you have a good teacher he'll (probably) like it a lot |
| 18:54:03 | Xentac | and it will help him with his mental focus |
| 18:54:43 | prpplague | Xentac: well east texas isn't exactly a hub for asian culture so i'm sure a good teacher will be hard to find |
| 18:55:04 | kergoth` | hey |
| 18:55:05 | Xentac | notes that asian culture isn't really what makes a good teacher |
| 18:55:24 | Xentac | a good teacher doesn't just know what they're doing... any old schmuck can know what they're doing ;o) |
| 18:55:39 | Xentac | a good teacher has to be able to keep the kid's attention and keep them interested... and working |
| 18:55:59 | Xentac | notes that his dojo has very little asian influence... it's just coincidence that he's asian |
| 18:57:52 | prpplague | Xentac: agreed thats why i said asian culture, say "dojo" are here and someone will probably say "didya do what?" |
| 18:58:12 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 18:58:31 | Xentac | ah... so you were implying a general lack of teachers... not just good ones ;o) |
| 18:59:15 | prpplague | exactly |
| 18:59:25 | Xentac | I understand |
| 19:00:21 | prpplague | Xentac: i tried to buy some green tea the other day, and the lady at the counter kept trying to sell me iced tea blends |
| 19:00:31 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 19:01:02 | Xentac | well... good luck finding a teacher then |
| 19:05:55 | Xentac | mwahahaha |
| 19:06:00 | Xentac | I just found a link to Dune 2! |
| 19:06:37 | kergoth` | ? |
| 19:06:47 | Xentac | you don't know Dune 2? |
| 19:06:49 | Xentac | the game... |
| 19:07:36 | kergoth` | oh, westwood rts, eh? |
| 19:07:44 | Xentac | you know... if I could play this game at full speed... on my Zaurus... |
| 19:07:50 | Xentac | drools... |
| 19:07:53 | Xentac | yeah, that's right |
| 19:07:58 | Xentac | westwood rts |
| 19:08:01 | Xentac | the first of it's kind |
| 19:08:13 | Xentac | (with really dumb ai! hehehe) |
| 19:10:16 | kergoth` | i started with C&C |
| 19:10:24 | Xentac | nods. |
| 19:10:29 | Xentac | dune 2 was the shizzat |
| 19:10:39 | prpplague | same here |
| 19:11:24 | Xentac | tries to find a binary for bochs on the zaurus... though he might just be able to compile it (that'd be cool...) |
| 19:14:01 | prpplague | Xentac: bike looks really nice |
| 19:14:09 | Xentac | prpplague: thanks... it's more or less brand new |
| 19:14:36 | Xentac | notes that he's probably up for a pretty big let down with this bochs stuff... no doubt it won't be able to emulate the mouse and video... let alone sound, etc |
| 19:20:19 | KeyserSoze | watches a review of a motherboard. |
| 19:20:32 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: watching it? |
| 19:20:40 | KeyserSoze | yeah, i'll send you a link |
| 19:20:47 | Xentac | nah, it's ok |
| 19:20:53 | KeyserSoze | no, really. |
| 19:20:56 | KeyserSoze | you got to see it. |
| 19:21:57 | KeyserSoze | http://www.thenakedreview.com/reviews/kx7333_high.wmv |
| 19:22:11 | KeyserSoze | it's a review of the Abit KX7 333. |
| 19:22:20 | Xentac | how am I supposed to view a wmv? |
| 19:22:33 | KeyserSoze | that's your problem. |
| 19:22:42 | Xentac | doesn't. |
| 19:23:06 | KeyserSoze | well, the chick is pretty hot. it's your loss if you don't watch her review the motherboard. |
| 19:23:17 | Xentac | I'm willing to take that chance right now |
| 19:23:24 | Sophie | she's a dumbass. |
| 19:23:55 | Xentac | mwahahaha |
| 19:24:00 | Xentac | Sophie: have you seen my new bike? |
| 19:24:17 | Sophie | keyser showed me a pic |
| 19:24:21 | KeyserSoze | http://www.thenakedreview.com/images/vidreviews/21/pics/5.jpg |
| 19:24:30 | fragglet | yay |
| 19:24:31 | Sophie | go to any biker bars with it? |
| 19:24:44 | Xentac | Sophie: nah... it's still being fixed... rust in the gas tank... |
| 19:24:53 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: she is hot... I bet she's not a tech at all ;o) |
| 19:24:56 | KeyserSoze | http://www.thenakedreview.com/images/vidreviews/24/pics/5.jpg |
| 19:25:10 | Xentac | what the hell...? |
| 19:25:17 | Xentac | very... ummm... nipply |
| 19:25:26 | fragglet | o_O |
| 19:25:39 | KeyserSoze | yes, the fittings on the waterblock (nipples) were pretty large. |
| 19:25:43 | KeyserSoze | 0.5", I think |
| 19:25:51 | KeyserSoze | my water cooled stuff is only 3/8" |
| 19:25:58 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 19:26:31 | KeyserSoze | my nipples aren't anodized, either. |
| 19:26:33 | Sophie | is sucking on a nipple. |
| 19:26:37 | Sophie | rubber |
| 19:26:47 | Xentac | http://www.thenakedreview.com/images/vidreviews/23/pics/5.jpg |
| 19:26:50 | Xentac | is that your motherboard? |
| 19:27:00 | KeyserSoze | no |
| 19:27:10 | Xentac | oh... it's some other motherboard? |
| 19:27:11 | KeyserSoze | i've got a kt266a mb, and a kt133 mb. |
| 19:27:23 | Xentac | nods. |
| 19:27:33 | KeyserSoze | looking to upgrade, and considering abit |
| 19:28:18 | KeyserSoze | were'd gonkulator go? |
| 19:28:37 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: you want to harass him with that? |
| 19:29:11 | KeyserSoze | no, he just sounded kind of depressed yesterday. |
| 19:29:20 | Xentac | nods. |
| 19:29:43 | KeyserSoze | do you think he'd say the MB looked sad and opressed? |
| 19:30:02 | Xentac | no, he'd probably say the chick looked sad and oppressed ;o) |
| 19:30:10 | Xentac | doesn't suggest showing him just right now |
| 19:30:16 | KeyserSoze | nah, I won't. |
| 19:30:50 | KeyserSoze | sophie and i went to a used bookstore. |
| 19:30:58 | Xentac | and...? |
| 19:31:06 | Sophie | that's the whole story |
| 19:31:13 | Xentac | oh, ok |
| 19:31:16 | Xentac | sounds... like fun |
| 19:31:22 | KeyserSoze | i got a "strength of materials" book from the 1960's, and a Joseph Heller book (the guy who wrote 'catch-22') |
| 19:31:29 | Sophie | then we went to an anime shop |
| 19:31:36 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 19:31:43 | Sophie | it was pretty lame. |
| 19:31:50 | kergoth` | catch 22 was a good book. |
| 19:31:53 | KeyserSoze | Sophie got a hugo-award winning boxed set by Isaac Asimov... |
| 19:32:00 | Sophie | got a Tombraider comic |
| 19:32:10 | Xentac | sounds like you guys had fun |
| 19:32:15 | Sophie | snicker |
| 19:32:33 | KeyserSoze | i got a 3 liter bottle of faygo "red pop" for .99$ at the dollar store. |
| 19:32:38 | KeyserSoze | it's frickin' huge! |
| 19:32:55 | Sophie | I got a bottle. For drinking prostrate. |
| 19:33:43 | Sophie | and we bought you a sailor moon tee-shirt |
| 19:33:49 | Sophie | just kidding. |
| 19:33:56 | Xentac | me..? |
| 19:34:30 | KeyserSoze | Catch-22 was awesome. |
| 19:34:41 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: you keep saying that... I've never really heard of it... |
| 19:34:52 | Sophie | thought only avid christians used the word "awesome" |
| 19:34:54 | KeyserSoze | we've got a few other books by heller. the best one is "God Knows" Hilarious. |
| 19:35:03 | KeyserSoze | s/avid/rabid |
| 19:35:27 | Xentac | uses the word awesome... it describes things like... his bike! |
| 19:35:29 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: it's a book about some people in the airforce in WWII. |
| 19:35:31 | kergoth` | Xentac: i read it in school, thoroughly enjoyed it |
| 19:35:31 | Sophie | probes KeyserSoze's vocabulary |
| 19:35:53 | Xentac | Sophie: woah... back off... that's not his VOCABULARY! |
| 19:36:03 | kergoth` | I thought it was great the first time one of the main characters realized what the catch 22 was |
| 19:36:28 | Xentac | what is the catch 22? (what's the history) |
| 19:36:53 | Sophie | the catch-22 seemed rather an insignificant part of the book to me. |
| 19:37:16 | kergoth` | Sophie: oh it was, but i thought the realization was amusing nonetheless |
| 19:37:53 | Sophie | :) |
| 19:38:02 | KeyserSoze | http://www.webster.edu/~barrettb/heller.htm |
| 19:38:54 | carpman{tallest} | muhahaha |
| 19:39:01 | carpman{tallest} | xchat on irix >:) |
| 19:39:06 | KeyserSoze | tallest? really? |
| 19:39:11 | carpman{tallest} | wow, the fonts look nice |
| 19:39:27 | KeyserSoze | ooh, irix. did you install yourself, or get the machine already set-up? |
| 19:39:31 | carpman{tallest} | "the tallest" from Invader Zim |
| 19:39:44 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: Installed myself. Irix 6.5 on an indigo2 |
| 19:39:54 | KeyserSoze | has an indigo2!!!! |
| 19:40:00 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: so catch-22 doesn't have a meaning like the whole 9 yards does...? |
| 19:40:08 | KeyserSoze | does your machine have a cd rom drive in it? |
| 19:40:20 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: sw33t, are they not? |
| 19:40:31 | KeyserSoze | carpman: haven't installed yet :( |
| 19:40:39 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: actually, I have an external 32 speed scsi |
| 19:40:58 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: what cpu/ram/gfx? |
| 19:41:01 | file | downloads Opera with Java |
| 19:41:02 | KeyserSoze | i got a set of CDs, and i set up a tftp server on my linux box, but my linux box cannot read the CDs. |
| 19:41:26 | kergoth` | Xentac: yes, it does. example. I give you a tar.gz of the gzip binary. you do not have gzip on your system. thats a catch 22. you're stuck in a loop. |
| 19:41:26 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: they are xfs, if you install the xfs modules in the kernel, you might be able to read them. |
| 19:42:17 | KeyserSoze | boots, to check his hardware |
| 19:42:19 | Xentac | kergoth`: I realize that... but where did catch-22 come from? 'the whole 9 yards' was because that's how long the bullet belts were in WWII planes... so if you had an intense flight you went 'the whole 9 yards' |
| 19:42:47 | kergoth` | ahhh gotcha |
| 19:43:16 | Xentac | so anyway |
| 19:43:26 | Xentac | I'm going to go play monkey island on my Zaurus |
| 19:43:28 | file | Xentac: how's the bike? |
| 19:43:29 | Xentac | ta ta |
| 19:43:49 | carpman{tallest} | file: I'm running xchat on hardware you could only dream of >:) |
| 19:43:56 | file | lol |
| 19:44:00 | Xentac | file: in the shop... I need to treat the tank... it'll take like a week of cleaning and stuff... and then a couple days of treating... otherwise I'd already have done it ;o |
| 19:44:03 | Xentac | ;o) |
| 19:44:07 | KeyserSoze | carpman: what's the command to check the hardware on an SGI? |
| 19:44:13 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: hinv |
| 19:44:20 | Xentac | is away: monkey island... yay! |
| 19:44:22 | KeyserSoze | thanks :) |
| 19:44:35 | KeyserSoze | proc: 250mhz r4400, with FPU |
| 19:44:51 | KeyserSoze | memory size: 384 Mbytes |
| 19:45:02 | KeyserSoze | graphics: MG10 impact |
| 19:45:18 | carpman{tallest} | 200mhz cpu, 224mb ram, GR3-Elan gfx |
| 19:45:21 | carpman{tallest} | r44k |
| 19:45:21 | KeyserSoze | i don't know exactly what "MG10" means, but I know impact is good. |
| 19:45:29 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: ah, a barney box. |
| 19:45:41 | KeyserSoze | barney? big purple dinasaur? |
| 19:45:52 | carpman{tallest} | yes |
| 19:45:55 | KeyserSoze | s/dinasaur/dinosaur |
| 19:46:03 | KeyserSoze | what's yours look like? |
| 19:46:13 | carpman{tallest} | same as yours, but teal |
| 19:46:18 | KeyserSoze | oh. |
| 19:46:31 | KeyserSoze | when i was in school, a prof had a pair of SGIs. |
| 19:46:40 | KeyserSoze | they were teal i think, but not as thick |
| 19:46:47 | carpman{tallest} | indys |
| 19:46:52 | KeyserSoze | and they had a kind of slash-offset through them. |
| 19:47:02 | carpman{tallest} | yeah, definately indys |
| 19:47:05 | KeyserSoze | are those better or worse than what I've got now? |
| 19:47:18 | carpman{tallest} | worse, about half as fast |
| 19:47:22 | KeyserSoze | cool! |
| 19:47:34 | KeyserSoze | because I used those a bunch, and they kicked ass. |
| 19:47:42 | KeyserSoze | well, they kicked ass at the time. |
| 19:48:03 | carpman{tallest} | I want a r10k, and a new backplane so I can put a maximum impact card in |
| 19:48:10 | KeyserSoze | do you know of any resources that could tell me what type of CD ROM or HD would work in my machine? |
| 19:48:26 | KeyserSoze | my HD works okay, but sounds like a jet engine on takeoff. |
| 19:48:28 | carpman{tallest} | KeyserSoze: MOST scsi hds will work |
| 19:48:46 | carpman{tallest} | any cdrom will work provided it can do parity, which means any scsi 2 cdrom, and most scsi 1 cdroms |
| 19:48:55 | carpman{tallest} | what kind of hd? |
| 19:49:03 | carpman{tallest} | lemme guess |
| 19:49:05 | carpman{tallest} | baracuda? |
| 19:50:05 | KeyserSoze | quantum 4gb |
| 19:50:10 | carpman{tallest} | ah |
| 19:50:22 | carpman{tallest} | I have a wd 4.5gb in tallest, 10k rpm. 6ms access time. |
| 19:50:31 | carpman{tallest} | $15 at first saturday, brand new. |
| 19:50:43 | kergoth` | carpman{tallest}: damn, good deal |
| 19:50:52 | carpman{tallest} | I had to mess with some jumper settings to get the indigo2's scsi controller to like it tho. |
| 19:51:05 | kergoth` | i could use 6 of those to throw in a raid array :) |
| 19:51:07 | carpman{tallest} | yeah, I'm only upset that I didn't buy more. |
| 19:51:11 | KeyserSoze | ooh, what's "first saturday"? |
| 19:51:44 | KeyserSoze | will buy a HD and CD if he can get them that cheap. |
| 19:51:58 | carpman{tallest} | its a local thing here in Dallas. From friday at 6pm to Saturday at noon, three parking lots in downtown Dallas are filled with people selling all varaties of computer hardware from the back of cars/picups/etc |
| 19:52:05 | carpman{tallest} | geek fleemarket/nirvana |
| 19:52:12 | KeyserSoze | that'd be cool. |
| 19:52:16 | carpman{tallest} | it is :) |
| 19:52:20 | KeyserSoze | nothing like that around here, that I know of. |
| 19:52:37 | carpman{tallest} | its seriously buyer beware tho |
| 19:52:56 | carpman{tallest} | My friend Glitch bought this indigo2 there for $20 |
| 19:53:02 | kergoth` | damn |
| 19:53:05 | KeyserSoze | damn, that's cheap. |
| 19:53:11 | carpman{tallest} | WITH the ram |
| 19:53:26 | carpman{tallest} | we bought it, and ran like hell |
| 19:54:16 | KeyserSoze | i paid over $150 for mine, but it came with the bigass SGI monitor, and SGI keyboard and mouse, so i think i did okay. |
| 19:54:26 | KeyserSoze | s/over $150/$150 |
| 19:54:50 | carpman{tallest} | I got a 21" sun monitor at a local parts shop for $15, and converted it to work on SGI |
| 19:54:52 | file | installs Java and shivers |
| 19:54:54 | file | evil... |
| 19:54:56 | KeyserSoze | doh! |
| 19:55:14 | KeyserSoze | convert how? |
| 19:55:44 | carpman{tallest} | if you open it up, there is a pcb in the back with a molex connector that runs to the 13w3 connector |
| 19:56:03 | carpman{tallest} | if you swap 3 of the pins arround, you can get it to sync to a SGI |
| 19:56:13 | KeyserSoze | can you breifly instruct me in what to look for in a SCSI HD and CD ROM? aren't there a boatload of different kinds of SCSI? like different pincounts and bandwidths, etc. |
| 19:56:54 | carpman{tallest} | ok, there are 3 versions of scsi, 1, 2, and 3 |
| 19:57:22 | carpman{tallest} | each can work on three types of connectors.. 50 pin, 68 pin, and 88pin |
| 19:57:37 | carpman{tallest} | 88 pin is SCA, and the realm of Sun. You don't want that. |
| 19:57:45 | carpman{tallest} | oh |
| 19:57:48 | kergoth` | last i checked sca was 80 pin |
| 19:57:50 | kergoth` | :) |
| 19:57:57 | carpman{tallest} | oh, right |
| 19:58:01 | carpman{tallest} | whatever. |
| 19:58:05 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 19:58:13 | carpman{tallest} | its a big wide upside down centronics looking thing |
| 19:58:30 | file | ahhhh Opera is nice |
| 19:58:32 | carpman{tallest} | there is also single ended scsi, and double ended |
| 19:58:34 | kergoth` | you can get adapters, but they're pricy, particularly for the ones that support LVD.. i've heard getting UW working on them can be a pain too even |
| 19:58:41 | kergoth` | avoids sca |
| 19:58:54 | carpman{tallest} | yeha, I have some sca drives, but I also have a couple of sparcs |
| 19:58:58 | KeyserSoze | what do I want for my indy? i mean which version, which pincount? |
| 19:59:12 | KeyserSoze | and what about "wide" and "ultra wide"? what are they? |
| 19:59:15 | carpman{tallest} | you want single ended drives, that means 50 pin headers |
| 19:59:26 | file | ermph |
| 19:59:46 | carpman{tallest} | wide is about bandwidth, you can use any, if the sgi can't handle it then it will negotiate down to something it can handle. |
| 19:59:58 | carpman{tallest} | I think the drive I'm using now is ultra fast/wide |
| 20:00:09 | KeyserSoze | cool, that'll make it easier to find one. |
| 20:00:25 | kergoth` | i'm still using 5 5400rpm fast scsi2 nonultra, nonwide, drives |
| 20:00:26 | carpman{tallest} | 50 pin is they key tho, thats what fits in the sled. |
| 20:00:28 | kergoth` | old as dirt |
| 20:00:33 | file | I can't connect to EBay on laptop for some reason |
| 20:00:33 | carpman{tallest} | hehe |
| 20:00:35 | kergoth` | but they do okay on a caching raid controller :) |
| 20:00:55 | kergoth` | i need to upgrade to like 6 4gb or 9gb cheetahs |
| 20:03:03 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: work? |
| 20:03:07 | PicoBot | work is probably where you go to make money so that you can pay for all the things you need to work on picogui. |
| 20:03:16 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: work is also done, for now... |
| 20:03:17 | PicoBot | okay, carpman{tallest}. |
| 20:03:21 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: work? |
| 20:03:21 | PicoBot | work is where you go to make money so that you can pay for all the things you need to work on picogui. or done, for now... |
| 20:03:28 | carpman{tallest} | inded. bbiab |
| 20:03:37 | KeyserSoze | is there some sort of relationship between SCSI 1,2, and 3, and the cable pincounts? |
| 20:06:37 | Sophie | responds to KeyserSose: you're cute |
| 20:07:29 | KeyserSoze | anyone want to go skating? |
| 20:07:38 | KeyserSoze | maybe especially people that live near me? |
| 20:07:50 | Sophie | I do |
| 20:07:55 | KeyserSoze | cool! |
| 20:08:01 | KeyserSoze | where are you located? |
| 20:08:11 | Sophie | squirts redpop all over her nose |
| 20:08:28 | Sophie | bout 10 feet to your left |
| 20:08:38 | KeyserSoze | neat! I can see you from here. |
| 20:08:43 | KeyserSoze | when do you want to go? |
| 20:09:03 | Sophie | let me check my scedule |
| 20:09:15 | Sophie | schedule |
| 20:09:21 | Sophie | notes that she has a date tonight |
| 20:09:47 | Sophie | between 5:30 and 6:30 would be ok |
| 20:09:56 | KeyserSoze | is it with Xentac? He's been showing you naked pictures of himself again, hasn't he? |
| 20:10:40 | Sophie | is not a narc |
| 20:10:59 | Sophie | ok ok, I'll spill |
| 20:11:31 | Sophie | it's with Miles. Making hot wet monkey love. |
| 20:11:39 | Sophie | he's such a slut |
| 20:13:18 | Sophie | wonders if "hot wet monkey love" is an obsolete expression |
| 20:13:58 | Sophie | thinks it sounds dated |
| 20:14:21 | KeyserSoze | regrets talking to sophie in #picogui |
| 20:14:35 | KeyserSoze | drags sophie away from her keyboard. |
| 20:14:52 | Sophie | considers "hittin' da skinz" |
| 20:46:12 | file[laptop] | logs on from bed |
| 20:46:21 | file[laptop] | I think my NAT software is having problems |
| 20:46:57 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 20:47:02 | file[laptop] | I need an e-mail client now |
| 21:10:03 | prpplague | scanline: you around? |
| 21:41:17 | file | hello majik |
| 21:41:29 | ^majik^ | heya file |
| 21:46:42 | carpman | is back (gone 04:52:24) |
| 21:46:59 | file | wb carpman |
| 21:47:05 | carpman | hi file |
| 21:48:28 | file | the car I get to drive once I get my license: |
| 21:48:29 | file | http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_6ae1707d46c0f1e75da747a4a46d4586/i-1.JPG |
| 21:52:26 | carpman | file: this is the car I want |
| 21:52:28 | carpman | http://www.deloreanone.com/photos/c_delorean.jpg |
| 21:56:31 | carpman | wow, one for 9k |
| 21:56:40 | carpman | I SO need a job that pays more |
| 21:56:58 | carpman | I would learn to drive a stick AND go to California to get one of these. |
| 21:58:06 | carpman | oh, they come in automatic |
| 21:58:09 | carpman | sw33t! |
| 22:05:47 | lalo[out] | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 22:05:48 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 5 hours, 27 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: is away: museum [Sat Oct 5 11:44:38 2002] |
| 22:07:47 | carpman | hail lalo |
| 22:07:55 | lalo | hi carpman |
| 22:08:03 | lalo | 'sup? :-) |
| 22:08:51 | carpman | lalo: not much, just doing some kernel hacking on usbdnet, and lusting after a delorian |
| 22:25:22 | file | hey laodamas |
| 22:25:30 | laodamas | hello |
| 22:25:43 | lalo | hi laodamas, file |
| 22:36:34 | laodamas | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 22:36:34 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 5 hours, 58 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: is away: museum [Sat Oct 5 11:44:38 2002] |
| 22:45:32 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Xentac |
| 22:45:32 | PicoBot | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 1 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: is away: monkey island... yay! [Sat Oct 5 14:50:52 2002] |
| 22:45:39 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 22:45:40 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 6 hours, 7 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: is away: museum [Sat Oct 5 11:44:38 2002] |
| 22:45:45 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen carpman |
| 22:45:46 | PicoBot | carpman was last seen on #openzaurus 2 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: brb, need to reboot [Sat Oct 5 17:49:39 2002] |
| 22:45:54 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen DevGirl |
| 22:45:55 | PicoBot | DevGirl was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 3 hours, 3 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: have a nice trip [Fri Oct 4 14:48:32 2002] |
| 22:46:04 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen laodamas |
| 22:46:04 | PicoBot | laodamas was last seen on #picogui 9 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: PicoBot: seen scanline [Sat Oct 5 17:43:05 2002] |
| 22:46:12 | gonkulator | ah, fun |
| 22:46:21 | gonkulator | laodamas: I have OS X 10.2 running on my iBook |
| 22:46:34 | gonkulator | syncs iCal and his address book to his iPod with iSync |
| 22:46:50 | gonkulator | syncs iCal and his address book to his iPod with iSync on his iBook and gets an iAche :) |
| 22:46:55 | DevGirl | Hiya! |
| 22:46:59 | gonkulator | hey DevGirl |
| 22:47:53 | lalo | gonkulator: iSee. |
| 22:48:01 | gonkulator | lalo: its fun though |
| 22:48:11 | gonkulator | my iPod is about 10 times more useful |
| 22:51:57 | prpplague | DevGirl: hey girl |
| 22:52:06 | prpplague | DevGirl: did hear correctly your in brazil/ |
| 22:52:07 | prpplague | ? |
| 22:53:22 | DevGirl | prpplague: didn't understood... |
| 22:53:34 | prpplague | DevGirl: are you in brazil? |
| 22:53:37 | gonkulator | prpplague: yes |
| 22:53:45 | gonkulator | prpplague: her and lalo are married :) |
| 22:54:03 | prpplague | gonkulator: ya i gathered that about her and lalo |
| 22:54:24 | DevGirl | :) |
| 22:54:26 | prpplague | i was listening to radio program about the election coming up in brazil |
| 22:54:30 | DevGirl | yeah |
| 22:54:41 | lalo | tomorrow |
| 22:54:45 | DevGirl | :P cant stand more jingles :) |
| 22:54:50 | file | http://stream.file-radio.com:8000/ -> File Radio!!! |
| 22:56:17 | gonkulator | file: di.fm is really cool right now, otherwise I would listen |
| 22:56:25 | file | k :) |
| 22:56:38 | DevGirl | prpplague: what they said about the elections??? |
| 22:57:12 | DevGirl | i'm curious... want to know what people out there think about it and us... |
| 22:57:38 | lalo | I'm mildly amused by the ammount of (us-originated) spam I'm getting about this election - about how much americans think our president is their problem, when they obviously can't even elect their own |
| 22:58:33 | prpplague | DevGirl: i didn't follow it too much, i was coding at the time, but it did sound like and interesting battle |
| 22:59:15 | prpplague | DevGirl: it was thursday when it was on |
| 22:59:47 | DevGirl | prpplague: yeah... it looks like a battle ^^ |
| 22:59:52 | prpplague | lalo: politians are the problem no matter where they are |
| 23:00:34 | prpplague | lalo: thats why the texas constituation prevents people from becoming "professional" politicians |
| 23:01:45 | lalo | perhaps I was a bit too vague :-) the spam I'm getting is on the tone of "mr. Lula da Silva is a menace and a possible terrorist, so please write to your congressist" |
| 23:02:08 | lalo | and I think, what are the u.s. congressists supposed to do about it? |
| 23:04:48 | DevGirl | :P |
| 23:05:11 | gonkulator | is away: food time cause food is good |
| 23:06:16 | DevGirl | that's the US arrogancy :P there's a lot of US people who thinks that US is the World Guardian :P |
| 23:06:35 | DevGirl | "we're here to protect you, poor people" |
| 23:06:38 | DevGirl | :) |
| 23:07:11 | laodamas | While violating the UN, internationional treaties, the geneva convention, AND the US constitution! |
| 23:07:46 | DevGirl | :) |
| 23:07:55 | laodamas | Expect the official Iraq campain kickoff monday evening. |
| 23:08:11 | DevGirl | "and terrorist are the others!!!" ;) |
| 23:08:58 | DevGirl | sorry, shouldn't say that, but... |
| 23:09:28 | prpplague | laodamas: ya well, i'm a army vet, an i'm all for the iraq deal, i know what they are doing |
| 23:09:48 | file | argh |
| 23:09:50 | file | hurt his neck |
| 23:14:08 | laodamas | According to the FBI terrorist flyer, I meet the criteria for an information, common law movement proponent, left-wing, and a Single issue terrorst and should be arrested and questioned... |
| 23:14:31 | file | prpplague: thanks for the TCSX-1 again... too bad it didn't arrive in time for my birthday |
| 23:14:50 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:15:28 | lalo | esoterically speaking, the election will be on the new moon which is good |
| 23:15:56 | lalo | "single issue"? |
| 23:16:01 | prpplague | laodamas: and what would those qualifications be? |
| 23:16:18 | file | prpplague: did you just put a hub in, or CAT5 too? |
| 23:16:30 | file | wants to know how much to order in |
| 23:16:59 | prpplague | file: damit, you like an ex-wife, just keep asking for more and more |
| 23:17:19 | file | prpplague: yup |
| 23:17:28 | DevGirl | heheheh |
| 23:17:31 | prpplague | file: bitch |
| 23:17:38 | file | more like a leech |
| 23:17:53 | DevGirl | isn't a ex-wife ^^ |
| 23:18:01 | DevGirl | :D |
| 23:18:06 | prpplague | file: or maybe a bad cause of athletes foot that won't go away |
| 23:18:17 | file | prpplague: :p |
| 23:18:27 | file | prpplague: your evading the question btw :) |
| 23:19:32 | DevGirl | mhuwahwuwahuwhwau Steve Jobs kicked Disney! |
| 23:19:38 | DevGirl | Disney sucks ^^ |
| 23:19:40 | laodamas | prpplague: "attempt to poliece the poliece, leftist/marxist philosophy political motivations, encryption proponent, rebel, constution proponent..." Its so broad and sweeping... |
| 23:19:58 | laodamas | Pixar is no longer disney's bitch? |
| 23:20:21 | DevGirl | still is, but is attempting to get free ^^ |
| 23:20:31 | file | wonders when the next dance is |
| 23:20:35 | file | I feel like becoming social! |
| 23:20:39 | file | ...SCARY |
| 23:21:34 | DevGirl | they said that they would do Toy Story 3 if the production counts as one of the 5 contract movies |
| 23:22:02 | DevGirl | as soon as Pixar produces 5 Disney movies, they're free ^^ |
| 23:22:24 | laodamas | It won't because it is not technically in the contract. |
| 23:22:43 | DevGirl | so, no Toy story 3 :) |
| 23:22:49 | laodamas | Sequals do not count |
| 23:23:00 | DevGirl | :) |
| 23:23:24 | prpplague | laodamas: except for the "leftist/marxist" i'm the same, but i work in the system |
| 23:23:51 | prpplague | file: ibot tell file |
| 23:23:57 | | ACTION file: no |
| 23:23:57 | prpplague | ibot: tell file |
| 23:24:05 | prpplague | file: no cat5 |
| 23:24:05 | DevGirl | mhuwahuwahwauwahw |
| 23:24:07 | laodamas | prpplague: Lets leave this political bickering to anoter time... |
| 23:24:32 | file | prpplague: what brand is the hub? |
| 23:24:38 | prpplague | laodamas: ya, i didn't mean to stir up things, this channel if for dev not politics |
| 23:24:54 | prpplague | laodamas: coding often brings ppl together that are many faceted |
| 23:25:19 | laodamas | prpplague: How often is this channel on topic anyway? |
| 23:25:58 | prpplague | laodamas: well, on topics means intelligent debate in my book |
| 23:26:07 | laodamas | k |
| 23:27:17 | laodamas | is away: Spirited Away |
| 23:27:29 | lalo | personally I think everything is related to politics to some degree - but that is already a left-winged opinion ;-) |
| 23:27:46 | file | prpplague: answer the question and you'll be free, free to drink expensive beer |
| 23:28:20 | anonyman | poke |
| 23:29:03 | prpplague | lalo: and i think everything is related to money |
| 23:29:17 | lalo | that too - to some degree ;-) |
| 23:29:17 | prpplague | lalo: i think politicians follow the money |
| 23:29:25 | prpplague | lalo: right and left |
| 23:29:33 | file | pokes anonyman |
| 23:29:46 | lalo | not necesarrily - but please let's not discuss this, at least not in this channel. |
| 23:30:00 | prpplague | lalo: np |
| 23:34:54 | DevGirl | pokes lalo and prpplague |
| 23:34:58 | DevGirl | :) |
| 23:35:41 | prpplague | lalo: you better get control of the wife of yours lol |
| 23:36:27 | prpplague | DevGirl: aren't you expecting? |
| 23:36:30 | DevGirl | pokes everyone, but just lalo gets a kiss after the poke :) |
| 23:36:37 | DevGirl | prpplague: yes ^^ |
| 23:37:54 | prpplague | DevGirl: congrads, your first? |
| 23:38:16 | DevGirl | yes :) but it's lalo's third ^^ |
| 23:39:48 | prpplague | DevGirl: fun, my one son is a handful |
| 23:40:36 | DevGirl | :) |
| 23:46:40 | file | LOL |
