| 00:05:45 | carpman | w00t! |
| 00:05:52 | carpman | got a REAL contract!!! |
| 00:06:06 | file | is one step closer to ADSL |
| 00:06:09 | scanline | cool. for what? |
| 00:06:14 | file | well, PPPoE actually |
| 00:06:31 | carpman | Redisign of one of our customers sites in AoF 2.5. $1800 |
| 00:06:39 | scanline | spiffy! |
| 00:07:02 | Xentac | hey scanline, guess what |
| 00:07:03 | carpman | does the Dance of Joy. |
| 00:07:12 | file | I have to convince my ISP to give me the new customer promotion... |
| 00:07:15 | file | and I have an idea how |
| 00:07:16 | scanline | Xentac: what? |
| 00:07:24 | file | Xentac: get through yet? |
| 00:07:28 | carpman | file: heavy use of libwhine and libcomplain? |
| 00:07:32 | Xentac | scanline: I got my laptop today.. the thinkpad 570 I bid on... guess what I found out about it |
| 00:07:39 | file | carpman: mmm yelling :) |
| 00:07:42 | Xentac | file: yeah... the guy has to call them... I can't |
| 00:07:51 | file | Xentac: that sucks |
| 00:07:58 | scanline | Xentac: :) |
| 00:08:01 | scanline | Xentac: what? |
| 00:08:10 | Xentac | scanline: it was dropped on the way here |
| 00:08:17 | scanline | oh no |
| 00:08:19 | carpman | Shazbot |
| 00:08:20 | Xentac | and the lcd is broken... it looks like a "nice" spider web] |
| 00:09:17 | scanline | wow cool, my camera works... |
| 00:09:23 | scanline | Xentac: is there insurance for stuff like that? |
| 00:09:33 | file | scanline: of course you dingo |
| 00:09:36 | Xentac | scanline: well... we had $650 worth of insurance on it |
| 00:09:41 | Xentac | so... hopefully ;o) |
| 00:09:46 | scanline | :) |
| 00:09:56 | file | Xentac: will they send somebody out to examine everything? |
| 00:10:11 | carpman | scanline: start the webcam! |
| 00:10:13 | file | (when the insurance thing is filed) |
| 00:10:13 | scanline | oh my god, this $80 camera is so much better than that $20 piece of crap |
| 00:10:18 | Xentac | file: I don't know... probably... |
| 00:10:22 | file | neat |
| 00:10:37 | scanline | carpman: it's not v4l compatible yet, so I need something other than camserv probably... or I need to write a v4l driver for firewire cameras |
| 00:10:49 | carpman | hehe |
| 00:10:50 | scanline | fiddles with the settings |
| 00:11:05 | scanline | this standard firewire DV stuff is so much cooler than using a broken USB driver with crappy compression |
| 00:11:24 | scanline | hehe this even uses the YUV overlay to display the camera image |
| 00:11:29 | Xentac | scanline: hehehe... what's the camera? |
| 00:11:41 | scanline | Pyro Webcam 1394 |
| 00:11:50 | scanline | 640x480, firewire, and $80 |
| 00:11:55 | Xentac | check this out... not exactly scientifically accurate... but cool all the same: http://www.ma-wired.com/punbult.html |
| 00:11:58 | Xentac | scanline: cool |
| 00:12:21 | file | Xentac: I feel sorry for you now... a laptop so close, and yet so far |
| 00:13:27 | scanline | wow.. automatic/manual exposure, shutter, iris, and gain... |
| 00:13:31 | Xentac | file: yeah... but I planned on selling the laptop anyway... I put my money into a Vaio r505el... |
| 00:13:41 | file | nods |
| 00:13:45 | file | well I'm not buying it |
| 00:13:55 | Xentac | scanline: so this is an actual digital camera, with a firewire interface? or a firewire webcam? |
| 00:14:41 | scanline | firewire webcam |
| 00:14:56 | Xentac | ah, cool |
| 00:16:17 | scanline | definitely not TV or digital camera quality... but pretty good for a webcam |
| 00:16:25 | Xentac | that's neat |
| 00:16:40 | scanline | lots of settings to fiddle with too :) |
| 00:17:37 | scanline | now I need to figure out the best way to broadcast this... |
| 00:18:05 | file | some way I can see it |
| 00:18:30 | carpman | scanline: I think we need a DriectFB output driver for PicoGUI |
| 00:18:42 | scanline | carpman: definitely |
| 00:19:02 | scanline | carpman: it's the only (easy) way to get hardware acceleration on desktop computers without X |
| 00:19:20 | carpman | scanline: I got the Matrox from Glitch, and DirectFB supports it >:) |
| 00:19:32 | scanline | yay! |
| 00:19:44 | carpman | is building a kernel for it now. |
| 00:20:10 | scanline | wow this is fast... |
| 00:20:21 | scanline | just figured out how to make it do 30fps |
| 00:20:27 | scanline | have to turn down the color depth... |
| 00:20:31 | scanline | but it's still pretty good |
| 00:20:46 | Xentac | http://www.ma-wired.com/gawdim50.html <--- funny... but you guys probably don't care... |
| 00:27:57 | Xentac | stops putting them up because they are conversation stoppers |
| 00:28:14 | file | if I go to sleep... the gnomes will get me |
| 00:28:16 | file | twitches |
| 00:28:30 | carpman | Can't sleep... Cosplayers will eat me... |
| 00:28:31 | carpman | Can't sleep... Cosplayers will eat me... |
| 00:28:31 | carpman | Can't sleep... Cosplayers will eat me... |
| 00:28:54 | file | if I go to sleep... the gnomes will get me... and sell me on EBay |
| 00:29:02 | file | at a buy it now price of $1 |
| 00:29:13 | carpman | Oh, by all means, sleep file. I'll buy you. |
| 00:29:29 | file | I refuse to be your sextoy! go away! |
| 00:29:37 | carpman | ewww... not for that! |
| 00:29:43 | carpman | I need a minion! |
| 00:29:55 | carpman | Whats a Mad Scientist without a Minion? |
| 00:29:57 | file | points to PicoBot |
| 00:30:05 | file | it's a mindless drone, it'll do |
| 00:30:24 | carpman | I can't put a "cheap and disposable" sticker on PicoBot |
| 00:31:59 | file | sticks the sticker on scanline |
| 00:32:04 | file | we can always replace him with somebody else |
| 00:32:17 | scanline | oh, ok |
| 00:32:33 | carpman | slaps file with a full printout of the Linux kernel source. |
| 00:32:43 | file | falls to pieces |
| 00:34:55 | carpman | merlin262: are you the guy from my Computer Orginization class? |
| 00:35:44 | file | carpman: his first name is Andrew |
| 00:35:50 | carpman | file: I know that. |
| 00:35:52 | merlin262 | yea |
| 00:36:01 | carpman | merlin262: Hi! |
| 00:36:04 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 00:36:06 | scanline | hmm... coriander can do Real streaming... |
| 00:36:10 | scanline | waves to merlin262 |
| 00:36:19 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 00:36:24 | file | nods to merlin262 |
| 00:36:31 | file | merlin262: may the Void be with you! |
| 00:36:53 | merlin262 | is trying to get up the mental fortitude to do some HW |
| 00:36:54 | file | it's great for stashing garbage in... like Kiwi! |
| 00:36:59 | file | or Glitch! |
| 00:37:06 | carpman | merlin262: the Comp Org homework? |
| 00:37:14 | merlin262 | among other things |
| 00:37:15 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 00:37:24 | scanline | file: bah |
| 00:37:55 | file | scanline: is your textbox widget b0rken yet? |
| 00:37:58 | merlin262 | I just tried using matlab over the net on X11, it wasn't pretty. |
| 00:38:05 | carpman | slaps a large "Cheap and Disposable" sticker on file |
| 00:38:11 | carpman | merlin262: ow. :) |
| 00:38:36 | file | takes off the cheap and disposable sticker |
| 00:38:38 | carpman | Don't they make you do that over dialup? Or can you do that on the VPN. |
| 00:38:42 | file | throws it onto a C64 |
| 00:38:53 | carpman | file: BLAPHEMY!!!! |
| 00:38:56 | merlin262 | i logged in via ssh, set the display env variable, and started matlab |
| 00:39:10 | merlin262 | 10 minutes later, I got the screen up.... |
| 00:39:16 | carpman | ouch |
| 00:39:36 | carpman | Yay, kernel build done, rebooting Lain. |
| 00:40:58 | carpman | yay, framebuffer started... |
| 00:41:02 | carpman | now the acid test. Mplayer |
| 00:43:18 | carpman | well, it works |
| 00:43:35 | carpman | I think Lain is too slow to play excel saga tho |
| 00:43:37 | file | but |
| 00:43:54 | carpman | a/v are WAY out of sync |
| 00:44:31 | gonkulator | is back (gone 20:30:35) |
| 00:44:35 | gonkulator | hey carpman |
| 00:44:55 | carpman | hi gonkulator |
| 00:45:24 | file | waves to cheese er gonkulator |
| 00:45:52 | gonkulator | hi file... |
| 00:45:57 | scanline | hi gonkulator |
| 00:46:13 | gonkulator | hey scanline |
| 00:46:18 | file | gonkulator: PPPoE! |
| 00:46:24 | file | PicoBot: PPPoE? |
| 00:46:25 | PicoBot | file: wish i knew |
| 00:46:55 | gonkulator | point to point protocol over ethernet? |
| 00:47:12 | file | shrugs |
| 00:47:29 | file | PPTP is point to point tunneling protocol ... I think |
| 00:48:14 | gonkulator | file: thats what it is |
| 00:48:26 | gonkulator | I was just using the ? to ask why you are asking |
| 00:48:43 | file | I wanted to know if PicoBot knew what it was |
| 00:48:51 | file | I didn't ask you :) |
| 00:49:01 | gonkulator | um... yes you did |
| 00:49:09 | file | <file> gonkulator: PPPoE! |
| 00:49:10 | gonkulator | <file> gonkulator: PPPoE! |
| 00:49:14 | gonkulator | right |
| 00:49:16 | file | ! doesn't mean question |
| 00:49:22 | file | ? is question |
| 00:49:36 | gonkulator | right, that is why I responded with a question |
| 00:49:45 | Xentac | hehehe... that song's on the radio... |
| 00:49:53 | file | well, I'm one step closer to having PPPoE! |
| 00:50:05 | Xentac | "you never come back Copperhead roooooooooaaad!" |
| 00:52:37 | gonkulator | wonders what Xentac is singing |
| 00:52:54 | file | Xentac: have you told gonkulator? |
| 00:53:03 | gonkulator | hasn't heard |
| 00:53:16 | file | gonkulator: Xentac's Thinkpad 570 arrived |
| 00:53:26 | gonkulator | COOL |
| 00:53:35 | file | gonkulator: but... Canada Post dropped something on the box and the LCD is cracked |
| 00:53:35 | Xentac | gonkulator: with a broken lcd! |
| 00:53:48 | gonkulator | ugh.. that sucks |
| 00:53:54 | gonkulator | shipping insurance to the rescue? |
| 00:53:59 | Xentac | yeah... hopefully... |
| 00:54:01 | file | soon |
| 00:54:05 | file | ooh |
| 00:54:06 | Xentac | but the guy has to call them... I can't |
| 00:54:15 | file | one of my favorite ST: VOY episodes is on Space: The Imagination Station |
| 00:54:50 | file | Xentac: locate TV and adjust for proper channel |
| 00:55:21 | Xentac | nah |
| 00:55:45 | Xentac | tries to think of good ways to limit certain types of net traffic... ie. gnutella traffic gets least priority, etc |
| 00:55:57 | gonkulator | port priority |
| 00:56:11 | gonkulator | renice port 80 to 20 and see what happens to the web :) |
| 00:56:23 | Xentac | I need to do it on the iptables level |
| 00:56:43 | Xentac | at my firewall |
| 00:57:00 | gonkulator | oh, I dunno then |
| 00:57:05 | gonkulator | never learned iptables |
| 00:57:07 | merlin262 | carpman: did you just submit a .txt file? |
| 00:57:22 | carpman | merlin262: I used abiword and submitied it as a word document |
| 00:57:36 | merlin262 | fires up openoffice |
| 00:57:46 | file | crashes openoffice |
| 00:57:54 | gonkulator | crashes file |
| 00:58:07 | file | gonkulator: too easily done, not much of a challenge |
| 00:58:17 | Xentac | crashes file again! Same process! |
| 00:58:50 | file | falls off his chair |
| 00:58:55 | file | lack of sleep is kicking in |
| 00:58:59 | file | DAMN it - why isn't my step-dad done? |
| 01:01:45 | file | ahhh my step-dad's done |
| 01:02:00 | file | sleepy time |
| 01:02:02 | gonkulator | file: don't listen to him, hes a hoser |
| 01:09:07 | Xentac | is away: be back in a sec |
| 01:14:26 | Xentac | is back (gone 00:05:18) |
| 01:14:31 | merlin262 | Welcome Back |
| 01:14:48 | Xentac | thanks |
| 01:15:15 | Xentac | merlin262: when'd you come here? |
| 01:15:23 | Xentac | PicoBot: merlin262? |
| 01:15:23 | PicoBot | i haven't a clue, xentac |
| 01:15:38 | merlin262 | hrm... about an hour ago? |
| 01:22:56 | Xentac | is away: I'm busy |
| 01:23:54 | carpman | merlin262: well, I'm going to get some sleep |
| 01:24:03 | carpman | merlin262: see you later. |
| 01:24:05 | gonkulator | too |
| 01:24:22 | gonkulator | is away: sleepy time |
| 01:33:20 | Xentac | is back (gone 00:10:24) |
| 02:18:41 | Xentac | who wants to see pictures of my busted laptop? |
| 02:18:56 | scanline | sure |
| 02:19:23 | Xentac | hold on... I'll shrink them down and make them available |
| 02:23:03 | Xentac | takes a crash course in 'convert' |
| 02:23:48 | scanline | brb |
| 02:27:07 | Xentac | scps them to the server |
| 02:27:21 | Xentac | it might take a little while... sending the images to the guy as well. |
| 02:34:27 | dylan | hey guys |
| 02:34:32 | Xentac | hey dylan |
| 02:34:39 | scanline | hi dylan |
| 02:34:56 | Xentac | almost done transfering the large images... |
| 02:35:14 | Xentac | scanline: if you start looking now you'll not finish till they're all uploaded ;o) |
| 02:35:20 | Xentac | http://xentac.net:8085/~jchu/busted |
| 02:35:33 | Xentac | all the ones with an 's' in front are only 1024x768, instead of 1600x1200 |
| 02:40:14 | Xentac | scanline: how's it look? ;o) |
| 02:40:33 | scanline | I'm bad at guessing.. so far all the pictures that have downloaded are of the box |
| 02:40:41 | Xentac | ah... hehehe |
| 02:40:45 | Xentac | here... hold on... |
| 02:40:58 | Xentac | 33 |
| 02:41:02 | Xentac | 34 |
| 02:41:09 | Xentac | 35 |
| 02:41:16 | Xentac | they're all good examples of it |
| 02:41:16 | scanline | ooh... |
| 02:41:25 | scanline | #34 is about halfway done |
| 02:41:29 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:41:33 | scanline | this is the worst LCD crack I've ever seen |
| 02:41:37 | Xentac | yeah |
| 02:41:37 | scanline | and i've seen like.. 3 of them |
| 02:41:42 | dylan | if there a php function that returns image dimensions? |
| 02:41:51 | Xentac | something was definatly dropped on it |
| 02:41:51 | scanline | though there was a cracked Compaq at CompUSA almost this bad |
| 02:42:05 | Xentac | dylan: hmmm... I don't think so... but I haven't worked with images... so I'm probably wrong |
| 02:42:31 | Xentac | decides he's going to read about advanced linux routing tonight |
| 02:43:17 | scanline | methinks I'm going to end up writing a firewire driver for video4linux |
| 02:43:33 | dylan | crazy programmers |
| 02:43:45 | Xentac | hehehe, scanline the kernel hacker |
| 02:43:53 | Xentac | dylan: I like to think that I'm less crazy... but I suppose I still am... |
| 02:44:08 | dylan | we're all crazy in our own little ways |
| 02:44:10 | scanline | Xentac: most kernel hacking I've ever done was fixing a small bug in the helio digitizer driver :P |
| 02:44:16 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:44:19 | Xentac | better than me though ;o) |
| 02:44:22 | Xentac | dylan: well spoken |
| 02:44:23 | dylan | hell, i have a hard enough time with mysql.. i couldn't see myself writing a driver |
| 02:44:40 | scanline | has written plenty of picogui drivers though =) |
| 02:44:48 | dylan | freaks! |
| 02:44:53 | Xentac | notes that ripping dvds slows down his browsing... |
| 02:45:06 | dylan | i'll bb, i'm gonna go check the patriots/pirates score |
| 02:45:33 | Xentac | liked the old howtos... one big file |
| 02:46:20 | Xentac | there we go... I found them... |
| 02:52:34 | Xentac | Which makes sense |
| 02:52:35 | Xentac | because the loopback interface is a figment of your kernel's imagination. <--- hehehe, from the Advanced Routing HOWTO |
| 02:52:52 | scanline | :) |
| 02:53:09 | Xentac | this guy doesn't natively speak english but I like his style :) |
| 03:17:26 | Xentac | hehehe... talking about TCP/IP frames (I think that's the right term... where TCP sends more and more packets, till some are lost): |
| 03:17:37 | Xentac | This is the equivalent of not reading half of your mail, and hoping that people will stop sending it to you. With the difference that it works for the Internet :-) |
| 03:17:47 | scanline | hehe |
| 03:38:59 | Xentac | scanline: do you normally multipass your divx's? |
| 03:39:28 | scanline | yep |
| 03:39:35 | Xentac | doesn't that take a long time...? or do you renice it? |
| 03:39:48 | scanline | Xentac: yeah, I just renice it and leave it running for 10 hours or so :) |
| 03:39:52 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 03:40:05 | Xentac | ok... which process do I renice exactly...? the one that's taking the most cpu? |
| 03:40:49 | Xentac | and do you use xvid, or which? |
| 03:42:46 | scanline | I've been using dvd::rip, a pretty good GUI frontend to transcode. it has a setting for reniceing |
| 03:42:54 | scanline | usually use the divx5 codec |
| 03:42:57 | Xentac | look at that... it does... |
| 03:42:57 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 03:43:28 | Xentac | but doesn't it default to 0? |
| 03:43:30 | scanline | oh yeah, I already told you about dvd::rip... |
| 03:43:32 | Xentac | or do you run it as root? |
| 03:43:44 | scanline | you don't have to be root to renice to positive numbers |
| 03:43:44 | Xentac | divx5 codec, eh? |
| 03:43:52 | Xentac | I thought negative was better... |
| 03:43:59 | Xentac | oh... I see... you renice it down... |
| 03:44:00 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 03:44:14 | Xentac | why divx5? |
| 03:44:21 | scanline | I dunno.. seems to work |
| 03:44:30 | Xentac | oh, ok |
| 03:44:36 | Xentac | and you say it takes you like 10 hours? |
| 03:44:50 | Xentac | cause... as an example... it says the ETA of pass 1 is like 12 for me... |
| 03:44:54 | Xentac | and then there's still pass 2 |
| 03:45:03 | scanline | dunno exactly, I haven't timed it and the progress bar seems to be very inaccurate |
| 03:45:04 | Xentac | I assume I want to transcode and split, right? |
| 03:45:09 | Xentac | nods. |
| 03:45:39 | scanline | why split |
| 03:45:46 | Xentac | why not...? |
| 03:45:49 | Xentac | what is split? |
| 03:48:01 | scanline | splits into multiple files.. if you want to burn a 1.2GB movie onto 2 CDs |
| 03:48:08 | Xentac | ah, I see |
| 03:48:18 | Xentac | I'm aiming to put it on 1 cd... |
| 03:49:20 | scanline | so you don't need split |
| 04:03:39 | Xentac | I suppose deinterlacing and antialiasing are good ;o) |
| 04:04:20 | scanline | depends... |
| 04:04:24 | Xentac | on? |
| 04:04:33 | scanline | on whether the input is interlaced :) |
| 04:04:47 | Xentac | ummm... how can I tell...? |
| 04:05:12 | scanline | when playing the DVD, if you can pause it and see interlacing artifacts (every other line seems 'split') then it's interlaced |
| 04:05:24 | scanline | generally stuff taken from film is not interlaced, and TV shows are |
| 04:05:43 | Xentac | ah... alrighty... |
| 04:05:53 | Xentac | what happens when you deinterlace something that isn't? |
| 04:05:54 | scanline | if you deinterlace something that's not interlaced, you'll make it fuzzy |
| 04:06:04 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 04:06:06 | Xentac | gotcha |
| 04:06:42 | Xentac | and antialiasing? |
| 04:07:13 | scanline | antialiasing would make the deinterlacing and/or scaling a little higher quality |
| 04:07:58 | Xentac | ah... so if it's not interlaced I don't need either |
| 04:08:07 | Xentac | right? |
| 04:08:16 | scanline | depends.. are you scaling it? |
| 04:08:29 | Xentac | good questoin... |
| 04:08:33 | scanline | (I usually don't use antialiasing.. it doesn't seem to make much difference) |
| 04:08:38 | Xentac | I think the default is to scale it |
| 04:08:43 | scanline | nods |
| 04:09:00 | Xentac | dude... and it changes my aspect ratio... |
| 04:09:08 | Xentac | why the hell would it want to do something like that? |
| 04:09:25 | scanline | because the video is stored in the 'wrong' aspect ratio on the DVD |
| 04:09:36 | Xentac | are you sure...? |
| 04:09:43 | scanline | DVDs usually don't have square pixels, the player stretches it to the right aspect ratio |
| 04:09:45 | scanline | yes, I'm sure |
| 04:09:49 | Xentac | alrighty |
| 04:09:54 | Xentac | I'll believe you... this time... |
| 04:09:55 | Xentac | ;o) |
| 04:09:57 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:10:17 | scanline | not my fault if your DVD is particularly screwy.. but all of them I've seen seem to follow some sort of standard :) |
| 04:10:19 | Xentac | but if my divx comes out crappy... I'll hunt you down! |
| 04:10:25 | scanline | hides |
| 04:10:35 | Xentac | some sort of crazy dvd standard *arms waving in the air* |
| 04:10:52 | scanline | :d |
| 04:10:55 | Xentac | hmmm... with the deinterlacing and the antialiasing off it goes much faster ;o) |
| 04:11:02 | scanline | hehe] |
| 04:11:12 | Xentac | like... more than twice as fast |
| 04:11:13 | Xentac | ;o) |
| 04:11:21 | Xentac | ponders ripping 2 dvds at once... |
| 04:14:16 | Xentac | it's a cool program though |
| 04:14:35 | Xentac | what's up with this error message anyway: |
| 04:14:40 | Xentac | fileparse(): need a valid pathname at /usr/share/perl5/Video/DVDRip/GUI/Main.pm line 305 |
| 04:14:43 | Xentac | ever seen it before? |
| 04:14:51 | scanline | yeah.. I was ignoring it :) |
| 04:14:56 | Xentac | ok |
| 04:14:58 | Xentac | so was I |
| 04:16:16 | Xentac | geez... there are lots of sections on this one... I could encode all of the special features as well... :) |
| 04:19:14 | Xentac | http://www.ma-wired.com/anatstp.html <-- read it... it's very very good |
| 04:19:24 | Xentac | you have to wonder sometimes... |
| 04:19:36 | scanline | reads |
| 04:23:37 | Xentac | geez... I read from these guys, and they have this degree black and that degree black... and they're been training for less than like 5 years more than me... |
| 04:23:55 | Xentac | I don't know if that's good or bad... |
| 04:24:46 | dylan | it's sad |
| 04:24:52 | Xentac | why? |
| 04:24:54 | dylan | most schools of martial arts just hand them out |
| 04:25:05 | Xentac | I know... did you read that article? |
| 04:25:14 | Xentac | but actually... these ones seem decent |
| 04:25:17 | dylan | nah, not yet anyways |
| 04:25:20 | Xentac | like really... |
| 04:25:24 | Xentac | 18 years training |
| 04:25:26 | Xentac | 4th degree |
| 04:25:27 | Xentac | etc |
| 04:25:27 | dylan | i was in martial arts for a few years, but got sick of it |
| 04:25:30 | dylan | it's just for money |
| 04:25:36 | Xentac | hehehe, not always |
| 04:25:42 | Xentac | I can guarantee that |
| 04:25:53 | Xentac | is a martial artist, and not in it for the money |
| 04:26:27 | dylan | no no |
| 04:26:33 | dylan | not the students themselves, but the teachers |
| 04:26:39 | Xentac | and I can say, with good reason, that my sensei is not in it for the money either |
| 04:26:39 | Xentac | ;o) |
| 04:26:41 | Xentac | I hear ya |
| 04:26:53 | Xentac | my sensei used to teach karate /and/ have a day job |
| 04:26:56 | dylan | yeah, not many are still there for the love of the sport |
| 04:27:08 | dylan | karate is like, bleh though |
| 04:27:08 | Xentac | a lot of them want to make a career out of it |
| 04:27:14 | dylan | the form is fucked |
| 04:27:21 | dylan | how they don't pivot their feet and shit |
| 04:27:31 | dylan | i was in tae kwon do |
| 04:27:32 | Xentac | doesn't need to talk about the benefits of certain martial arts over others |
| 04:27:38 | dylan | lol |
| 04:27:51 | Xentac | notes that we pivot on our feet... and we do Shotokan karate |
| 04:28:02 | Xentac | anyway, as I was saying |
| 04:28:19 | Xentac | because they want to make a career out of it, it does become about the money |
| 04:28:39 | dylan | well that's different |
| 04:29:02 | dylan | what i mean is, a lot of schools will just hand out belts so the unmodivated stay 'focused' |
| 04:29:09 | Xentac | ok |
| 04:29:18 | Xentac | I just read an article about that one ;o) |
| 04:29:35 | Xentac | I wouldn't say that's the martial art's fault, I'd blame society there |
| 04:29:47 | Xentac | if you don't see results quickly, then why try? |
| 04:29:58 | dylan | oh definately |
| 04:30:42 | Xentac | my dojo isn't like that... |
| 04:31:04 | Xentac | our belt system has changed to accomidate "unmotivated", but it is still the same belt system |
| 04:31:08 | Xentac | we just added more belts ;o) |
| 04:31:21 | dylan | lol yeah |
| 04:31:21 | Xentac | that way you're promoted more often, but still reach the same level |
| 04:31:29 | dylan | my favorite is the camoflauge addition |
| 04:31:34 | Xentac | we have, more or less, half belts |
| 04:31:39 | Xentac | camo? |
| 04:32:21 | dylan | lol yeah |
| 04:32:37 | Xentac | needs more details |
| 04:32:49 | dylan | there is a belt that is camo |
| 04:33:03 | Xentac | like in the army...? |
| 04:33:07 | dylan | i believe it was in between green and blue |
| 04:33:09 | dylan | correct |
| 04:33:17 | Xentac | that's ummm... stupid... |
| 04:33:26 | dylan | precisely my point |
| 04:33:40 | Xentac | ours are like green stripe, and blue stripe |
| 04:33:49 | Xentac | it's half way between green and blue sort of thing |
| 04:33:52 | dylan | yeah we had that too |
| 04:34:01 | dylan | like a ring of electrical tape around the belt |
| 04:34:05 | Xentac | that worked quite well |
| 04:34:11 | Xentac | actually... those were our tips ;o) |
| 04:34:13 | Xentac | something different as well |
| 04:34:39 | Xentac | we have 4 tips, and then a stripe (half belt... it's like a green belt with a black strip down the middle of it) |
| 04:35:42 | Xentac | a lot of these articles are good |
| 04:35:48 | Xentac | but knowing you guys you probably don't care |
| 04:35:51 | Xentac | scanline: what did you think of that one? |
| 04:36:03 | scanline | Xentac: scamariffic |
| 04:36:10 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 04:36:18 | Xentac | would like to be that nephew sometime ;o) |
| 04:36:24 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:36:30 | Xentac | this one is slightly better |
| 04:36:40 | Xentac | it's about energy in self-defence situations |
| 04:36:41 | Xentac | http://www.ma-wired.com/kiyap.html |
| 04:36:56 | Xentac | most of them are written by tae kwon do people... I guess they have the most to say ;o) |
| 04:39:05 | dylan | yeah, damn koreans |
| 04:39:18 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 04:40:07 | Xentac | I like these short and sweet articles: http://www.ma-wired.com/iteach.html |
| 04:40:13 | Xentac | this one rings true for me |
| 04:40:13 | scanline | ki-yap! |
| 04:40:15 | Xentac | mostly anyway |
| 04:40:25 | Xentac | we do a kiai, just like it says there ;o) |
| 04:40:35 | scanline | decides he should do some homework... |
| 04:40:39 | scanline | brb, coffee run |
| 04:45:34 | scanline | mmm.. coffee... |
| 04:45:56 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 04:46:05 | Xentac | reads one about a guy's first tournament... it's really great :) |
| 04:49:55 | Xentac | http://www.ma-wired.com/thetorny.html |
| 04:50:01 | Xentac | it's a little longer though... |
| 04:56:15 | Xentac | these articles are uber-great |
| 04:56:24 | Xentac | I can't begin to describe... |
| 05:03:37 | Xentac | this guy summed up life in two sentences: |
| 05:03:39 | Xentac | Find whatever makes your heart sing. If your heart doesn't sing, everything else is just noise. |
| 05:03:51 | Xentac | geez... where's gonkulator? he'd love reading this stuff... |
| 05:03:57 | Xentac | PicoBot: seen gonkulator |
| 05:03:57 | PicoBot | gonkulator was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 39 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: is away: sleepy time [Mon Sep 9 20:30:34 2002] |
| 05:25:56 | Xentac | is away: sreeping |
| 07:55:37 | scanline | is away: ZzzZzzZzzzzz.... |
| 12:49:31 | Xentac | is back (gone 07:23:34) |
| 13:20:46 | Xentac | hey scanline, wake up |
| 13:21:03 | Xentac | geez... 2:00... he's not waking up anytime soon |
| 15:10:45 | gonkulator{work} | hmm... |
| 15:10:48 | gonkulator{work} | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:11:53 | carpman | gonkulator{work}: I didn't know you were here... |
| 15:20:36 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: neither did I |
| 15:20:43 | gonkulator{work} | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:20:53 | gonkulator{work} | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 15:20:56 | gonkulator{work} | oh, it auto-brings me back |
| 15:21:11 | dylan- | gonk, can you get to sending today? |
| 15:21:26 | gonkulator{work} | I'll try |
| 15:21:37 | gonkulator{work} | I fell asleep almost right after getting home |
| 15:21:44 | gonkulator{work} | I spaced your CDs completely |
| 15:21:56 | dylan- | it's cool |
| 15:56:15 | scanline | is back (gone 08:00:39) |
| 16:24:59 | | Disconnect was last seen on #handhelds.org 14 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: anyway really bbiab now. [Tue Sep 10 02:56:14 2002] |
| 16:24:59 | scanline | ibot: seen Disconnect? |
| 16:25:08 | scanline | feh |
| 16:30:31 | hikke | PicoBot: ibot? |
| 16:30:31 | PicoBot | i think ibot is a picobot ravisher or my evil twin of DOOM |
| 16:30:52 | | ibot is, like, spiffy |
| 16:30:52 | scanline | ibot: ibot? |
| 16:30:57 | scanline | ha |
| 16:31:08 | | i haven't a clue, hikke |
| 16:31:08 | hikke | ibot: spiffy? |
| 16:31:16 | hikke | :) |
| 16:31:21 | | okay, scanline. |
| 16:31:21 | scanline | ibot: ibot is also BZFlag and Tangent's bot that hangs out on lots of OPN channels |
| 16:31:33 | | hmmm... picogui is an small and scalable embedded GUI. More info in the #picogui channel or at http://picogui.org. Read the FAQ or not pico gui or pico-gui |
| 16:31:33 | scanline | ibot: picogui? |
| 16:31:41 | scanline | hmm |
| 16:31:43 | scanline | PicoBot: hikke? |
| 16:31:44 | PicoBot | hikke is probably hmm, somthing strange.. |
| 16:31:49 | scanline | :) |
| 16:32:17 | hikke | hmm, I should figure a new one.. |
| 16:48:21 | carpman | /quit off to work |
| 17:04:35 | | 3 |
| 17:04:35 | doug_school | ibot 1 + 1 |
| 17:04:43 | doug_school | *snort* |
| 17:05:55 | dylan|sleep | lol |
| 17:06:56 | scanline | PicoBot: 1 + 1 |
| 17:06:57 | PicoBot | 2 |
| 17:07:00 | scanline | ha |
| 17:07:07 | Speedy2 | hey scanline |
| 17:07:12 | scanline | hi Speedy2 |
| 17:08:05 | Speedy2 | What's up? |
| 17:08:50 | scanline | doing algorithms homework |
| 17:09:02 | Speedy2 | Doesn't sound fun. |
| 17:09:06 | Speedy2 | What class? |
| 17:09:12 | scanline | it's interesting |
| 17:09:15 | scanline | algorithms class |
| 17:09:27 | Speedy2 | I see. |
| 17:57:12 | prpplague | file: hey! |
| 17:57:37 | prpplague | file: i've got the stuff for the tcsx-1 redone, i'll be sending it out tomorrow |
| 17:57:44 | prpplague | file: you still need that hub? |
| 18:00:20 | file | prpplague: yes |
| 18:00:34 | prpplague | ok |
| 18:00:41 | file | I'm getting broadband... so I might want to plug my laptop into it |
| 18:00:57 | file | can assign them different IPs on the net |
| 18:01:52 | file | prpplague : what's up? |
| 18:02:02 | prpplague | file: ssdd |
| 18:02:11 | prpplague | is worn out |
| 18:02:50 | file | vacation! |
| 18:03:37 | prpplague | this is prpplague's brain [O], this is prpplague's brain on closed source ibm drivers [#$%#$%] |
| 18:03:48 | file | lol |
| 18:04:41 | gonkulator{work} | prpplague: you ok? |
| 18:05:13 | file | prpplague: do you think it'll go through this time? |
| 18:09:14 | prpplague | file: hopefully |
| 18:11:04 | file | I'm so close to broadband!!! |
| 18:14:07 | kergoth | hey prpplague |
| 18:14:38 | prpplague | kergoth: hey dude |
| 18:14:45 | prpplague | kergoth: how goes it? |
| 18:15:03 | kergoth | prpplague: sucks. one of those days. |
| 18:15:04 | kergoth | prpplague: you? |
| 18:15:08 | prpplague | kergoth: same |
| 18:15:41 | prpplague | kergoth: just got a call from the boss, he wants 50 handheld units that support 802.11b and barcode scanning under $1k by next week |
| 18:15:54 | file | prpplague: oh my |
| 18:15:59 | kergoth | prpplague: good luck |
| 18:16:25 | prpplague | kergoth: guess i'm going to get ipaqs and use a dual pcmcia sleeve |
| 18:24:25 | file | bbl |
| 18:33:18 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 18:33:19 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 24 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: algorithms class [Tue Sep 10 12:15:27 2002] |
| 18:44:11 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: seen PicoBot |
| 18:44:11 | PicoBot | I haven't seen 'PicoBot', gonkulator{work} |
| 18:49:19 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: eh? |
| 18:56:54 | gonkulator{work} | hehehe |
| 18:57:12 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: I am going to dual boot my iBook between 10.2 and linux |
| 18:57:20 | scanline | k |
| 18:58:03 | gonkulator{work} | 10.2 is almost acceptable in the way of speed and memory usage on the dual 1.25 gHz G4 machines here at work |
| 18:58:25 | gonkulator{work} | so I figure it must be fast on my 500 mHz G3 |
| 19:13:01 | carpman{work} | hi all |
| 19:13:30 | scanline | hi carpman{work} |
| 19:17:47 | | Disconnect was last seen on #handhelds.org 17 hours, 21 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: anyway really bbiab now. [Tue Sep 10 02:56:14 2002] |
| 19:17:47 | scanline | ibot: seen Disconnect? |
| 19:25:29 | gonkulator{work} | hey carpman{work} |
| 19:27:57 | carpman{work} | hi gonkulator{work} |
| 20:10:53 | Speedy2 | re |
| 20:11:16 | scanline | hi Speedy2 |
| 20:11:28 | Speedy2 | Yo |
| 20:13:22 | file | is very happy |
| 20:14:10 | file | PicoBot: file will soon have broadband |
| 20:14:10 | PicoBot | file: sorry... |
| 20:14:11 | Speedy2 | ?? |
| 20:14:15 | file | grrrr |
| 20:14:28 | file | Speedy2: I ordered broadband internet!!!!! it'll come this week.... or next week |
| 20:14:38 | Speedy2 | Hopefully not cable modem |
| 20:15:18 | Speedy2 | Well, CM service might be better in your area then it was for me. |
| 20:15:50 | file | ADSL |
| 20:15:54 | Speedy2 | Coolio |
| 20:15:57 | Speedy2 | What speed? |
| 20:16:03 | file | 1.4mbps down, .6mbps up |
| 20:17:04 | carpman{work} | I get relatively good cable modem access where I live. ~200kb/s |
| 20:17:56 | Speedy2 | You're in Dallas |
| 20:18:27 | Speedy2 | I was in Richardson and it used to be terrible. It became half-way better when AT&T picked it up but when there was an outtage, they were slow as hell to respond |
| 20:18:30 | carpman{work} | yeah. Corinth specifially. Just north of the lake lewisville bridge. |
| 20:18:38 | file | huh? |
| 20:18:44 | file | oh yeah |
| 20:20:22 | Speedy2 | I would have gone for DSL but, A it wasn't available in my area, B SWBEll rapes you for DSL fees |
| 20:20:31 | Speedy2 | F'ing telephone companies. |
| 20:20:34 | file | hehe |
| 20:20:38 | Speedy2 | file: How's the IBM laptop? |
| 20:20:39 | file | I got the latest promotion |
| 20:20:45 | Speedy2 | Who's your provider? |
| 20:20:48 | file | no fee for the router, and $24.95 till January |
| 20:20:57 | file | the phone company - Aliant Telecom |
| 20:21:09 | Speedy2 | hrm. |
| 20:22:10 | file | the laptop is great |
| 20:22:16 | file | I've got wireless throughout my home |
| 20:22:23 | Speedy2 | ah. |
| 20:22:29 | Speedy2 | Are you running Linux on it? |
| 20:22:36 | file | no - my card won't work in Linux |
| 20:22:44 | file | no driver |
| 20:22:56 | Speedy2 | Which distro did you try? |
| 20:23:02 | file | ...none |
| 20:23:16 | file | this card is very old/proprietary/rare |
| 20:23:25 | Speedy2 | I was contemplating Linux on one of my laptops (not seriously, but maybe) and couldn't find a decent distro |
| 20:23:35 | Speedy2 | Maybe I should just go NetBSD. |
| 20:23:42 | Speedy2 | file: WLAN card? |
| 20:23:51 | file | hehe |
| 20:23:55 | file | it's called an Acer WarpLink card |
| 20:24:07 | Speedy2 | Problem is, the program I was looking to use needs GTK+ and all that "stuff" |
| 20:24:14 | Speedy2 | Ah. |
| 20:24:15 | file | hehe |
| 20:24:51 | carpman{work} | Speedy2: look at gentoo? |
| 20:25:07 | Speedy2 | carpman{work}: Yeah, but it only provides i686 binaries and my laptop is a P166 |
| 20:25:25 | file | lol |
| 20:25:33 | file | Gentoo compiles everything for your computer... |
| 20:25:46 | Speedy2 | Yes...and I have a dial-up connection so it would take eons. |
| 20:25:59 | file | no more dialup for me!!!!! |
| 20:26:11 | Speedy2 | Yeah. Well ATM not too much I can do about it. |
| 20:27:23 | carpman{work} | Speedy2: umm... no? |
| 20:27:40 | file | aramius will have a direct connection to the net sometimes |
| 20:27:40 | carpman{work} | Speedy2: I've got it compiling on a p166 at home right now |
| 20:27:56 | carpman{work} | you need the ix86 iso |
| 20:28:51 | Speedy2 | Oh, it will RUN on < i686, but the binaries are i686 only, so if I want it to run, it will need to compile from source == must have connection |
| 20:28:58 | file | if anybody wants access to azmarith, it'll be on 'da net 24/7 probably |
| 20:29:14 | carpman{work} | yeah, thats the whole point of gentoo is to compile from source. |
| 20:29:17 | file | I'm going to port forward my Vibe's port 22 to the local LAN, and to azmarith |
| 20:29:28 | scanline | carpman{work}: I got my new motherboard and CPU in today.. after I get this homework done I will be upgrading yoshi to dual Athlon XP's |
| 20:29:37 | carpman{work} | scanline: MUHAHAHAH!!!!! |
| 20:29:39 | Speedy2 | Yes. And on dial-up it will be a long-ass build |
| 20:29:42 | scanline | >:) |
| 20:29:47 | Speedy2 | scanline: Dual XP or MP ? |
| 20:29:51 | scanline | Speedy2: dual XP |
| 20:29:54 | scanline | Speedy2: much cheaper |
| 20:30:34 | scanline | Speedy2: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/articles.hwz?cid=2&aid=393&page=3 |
| 20:31:18 | Speedy2 | No thanks, I don't like playing dangerous games |
| 20:31:50 | scanline | heh, dangerous? Worst that happens is that it doesn't boot, or doesn't run stable.. in which case I sell the XP processor and get some MPs |
| 20:32:28 | scanline | I paid $80 for one XP instead of like $300 for two MPs |
| 20:41:18 | gonkulator{work} | would buy the XP off of scanline |
| 20:41:39 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: I'll keep that in mind if I have any problems :) |
| 20:41:43 | scanline | oh yeah.. |
| 20:41:49 | carpman{work} | XP what? |
| 20:41:54 | carpman{work} | 2k? |
| 20:42:04 | gonkulator{work} | I'll bring your thermal paste up tonight if you need it |
| 20:42:04 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: I was planning on using the thermal goo that came with my heat sinks, unless you have that arctic silver handy :) |
| 20:42:06 | scanline | carpman{work}: yep |
| 20:42:17 | carpman{work} | scanline: I'd probably buy it, if it still booted by itself :) |
| 20:42:28 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: hehe... alrighty. Bring a pencil too :) |
| 20:42:37 | gonkulator{work} | a pencil? |
| 20:42:50 | scanline | for bridging the traces on the CPU |
| 20:43:55 | scanline | oh.. and can you bring a knife or something to smooth out the arctic silver with? |
| 20:44:12 | scanline | I have some stuff that would work, but not as well as an x-acto knife |
| 20:47:05 | scanline | I like the new heat sinks I got much better.. they have the double-wide clip, a larger (and slower) fan, and use the standard 3-pin power connector |
| 20:49:03 | gonkulator{work} | will bring the necessary items |
| 20:49:19 | gonkulator{work} | hmm... |
| 20:49:23 | gonkulator{work} | it is going to be a bit later though |
| 20:49:29 | scanline | lots o' room in here now that my bed is lofted |
| 20:49:36 | gonkulator{work} | is going to be calling Kathy around 8 |
| 20:49:54 | gonkulator{work} | wonders if scanline is willing to wait a night |
| 20:50:11 | scanline | I'll probably just use the heat sink goop that came with it :) |
| 20:53:02 | scanline | This motherboard came with a USB2 card and a 3com ethernet card... I dunno why |
| 20:53:20 | scanline | I guess they owed me some ports since there's not much built in on this board? |
| 20:54:00 | Speedy2 | If it's an older 760MPX chipset, it has broken USB |
| 20:54:41 | scanline | it is 760MPX |
| 20:54:46 | scanline | but not old... |
| 21:00:31 | gonkulator{work} | chuckles at the included hardware |
| 21:01:00 | scanline | I'll hold onto the 3com card as a spare in case I need to change Navi's IP again |
| 21:01:31 | scanline | turns out you can't change the MAC on the realtek 8139 cards.. so I just had my internal and external interfaces swap places |
| 21:07:11 | gonkulator{work} | places on the motherboard? |
| 21:07:42 | scanline | no.. as in I started using eth1 for my internet connection instead of eth0 |
| 21:07:51 | gonkulator{work} | oh, gotcha |
| 21:08:30 | gonkulator{work} | installs 10.2 for the seventh time |
| 21:12:24 | scanline | squished linux on your ibook yet? |
| 21:13:37 | gonkulator{work} | no |
| 21:14:36 | prpplague | scanline: why can't you change the macs on the rtl cards? i thought ifconfig could override that? |
| 21:16:28 | scanline | prpplague: I tried.. ifconfig thinks it's changed, but it doesn't really change it in the card |
| 21:16:55 | scanline | found some mailing list post that seemed to agree with that assessment... |
| 21:17:17 | scanline | I dunno whether it's a hardware or driver limitation |
| 21:18:04 | prpplague | scanline: hmmm, thats good to know then, i use alot of the rlt cards |
| 21:18:44 | scanline | yeah.. gonkulator{work} and I have been getting them really cheap |
| 21:30:10 | gonkulator{work} | ugh... must keep working |
| 21:49:34 | gonkulator{work} | grows tired of Final Cut Pro |
| 21:56:58 | scanline | is away: pseudofood-substances of DOOM |
| 22:36:11 | scanline | is back (gone 00:39:13) |
| 22:51:39 | Xentac | is away: I'm busy |
| 22:51:40 | Xentac | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 22:57:25 | file | prpplague : I've a question |
| 22:57:32 | Xentac | damn... |
| 22:57:50 | prpplague | file: and you think i have an answer? |
| 22:58:58 | prpplague | file: with everything i've learned over the years, the best thing i've learned is to answer "i know nothing!" |
| 22:59:11 | Xentac | prpplague: hehehe, I hear ya |
| 22:59:16 | file | prpplague : how much did you put on the customs papers? and did you put gift? |
| 22:59:22 | file | Xentac: how's the Thinkpad situation? |
| 22:59:27 | file | passes prpplague a beer |
| 22:59:34 | prpplague | hmm, let me check... |
| 22:59:35 | Xentac | file: the guy called, and it'll take like 30 days |
| 22:59:43 | file | Xentac: that sux |
| 22:59:49 | Xentac | nods. |
| 22:59:57 | file | Xentac: I got broadband however |
| 23:00:04 | Xentac | that's cool |
| 23:00:11 | prpplague | "contents: experimental development device $10,000" |
| 23:00:19 | file | prpplague: haha |
| 23:00:23 | file | is serious :p |
| 23:00:33 | Xentac | prpplague: :) |
| 23:00:35 | file | Xentac: no fee for the router! and until January it's $24.95/mth |
| 23:00:45 | Xentac | cool |
| 23:00:46 | prpplague | brown box: $3.00 |
| 23:00:54 | prpplague | postage: $15.00 |
| 23:00:59 | file | prpplague: even more serious? |
| 23:01:04 | prpplague | custom forms: $25.00 |
| 23:01:13 | file | screams |
| 23:01:17 | prpplague | file getting bill for taxes: priceless |
| 23:01:26 | file | you got hosed Davey, you got hosed |
| 23:01:31 | file | thwaps prpplague |
| 23:01:53 | file | prpplague : tell me how much on the customs forms, and I'll give you a beer injection! |
| 23:02:13 | prpplague | file: whats the fun in a beer injection, no taste! |
| 23:02:24 | file | prpplague : but you get the instant feel! |
| 23:02:30 | prpplague | file: actually i still haven't filled out that section yet |
| 23:02:36 | prpplague | file: wyhat should put? |
| 23:02:58 | file | prpplague : mmm |
| 23:02:59 | prpplague | file: i get an instant buzz when i chug a quart |
| 23:03:10 | file | prpplague : the real contents, and for cost $25, and check off gift |
| 23:03:23 | file | then put some quirky note inside like "Congrats on turning 16!" |
| 23:03:38 | prpplague | file: illegal drugs, $10,000.00, bribe |
| 23:03:46 | file | lol |
| 23:04:16 | prpplague | file: "congrads on getting laid, we knew you could do it!" |
| 23:04:22 | file | prpplague : lol |
| 23:04:23 | Xentac | prpplague: now, scratch out illegal and put over top "legal" |
| 23:05:26 | prpplague | Xentac: speaking of chicks, are still with one too? |
| 23:05:39 | file | hrmph |
| 23:05:45 | file | somebody from school is attacking my ICQ |
| 23:06:58 | file | prpplague : so that's what you'll put on the form, er I mean the real thing |
| 23:07:14 | prpplague | yep |
| 23:07:25 | Xentac | prpplague: no, I have no chick... |
| 23:07:44 | Xentac | she dumped me because my parents hated her and because she felt I was uninterested with her anymore |
| 23:08:03 | fraggle | :( |
| 23:08:07 | file | prpplague : and you've been properly educated in the ways of customs papers? |
| 23:08:09 | file | hi fraggle |
| 23:08:15 | fraggle | booya |
| 23:09:15 | prpplague | Xentac: did you tell her you'd be more interested in her if she could do 800mips? |
| 23:09:23 | file | lol |
| 23:09:47 | Xentac | prpplague: nah... I just went out and bought a zaurus and a laptop as some retail therapy |
| 23:09:51 | file | prpplague : does your wife enjoy when yoyu slur hardware terms into common talk? |
| 23:10:06 | Xentac | I spent more than $4000 on hardware since we broke up... (that's $4000 CDN... so like $4.69 USD) |
| 23:10:42 | prpplague | file: you bet, "hey baby your root need a little fscking?" |
| 23:10:52 | file | prpplague: damn good |
| 23:11:03 | file | would love to have prpplague as a father |
| 23:11:46 | Xentac | hey... who might want a copy of Dragon on Divx? |
| 23:12:01 | file | mmm scanline? |
| 23:12:06 | Xentac | probably... |
| 23:12:15 | scanline | eh? |
| 23:12:16 | Xentac | file: but you have broadband now... that'd be a nice test of it ;o) |
| 23:12:17 | prpplague | file: not good, my son got a note sent home last week when so older girl was harrasing him and he told the teacher "she better leave me along or i'm going to frag the wench" |
| 23:12:30 | file | prpplague : LOL |
| 23:12:35 | Xentac | or even better... High Fidelity |
| 23:12:38 | file | Xentac: no, I ordered it - the router has to come in the mail |
| 23:12:41 | Xentac | thinks that everyone should see High Fidelity |
| 23:12:44 | Xentac | ah, I see |
| 23:12:48 | scanline | Xentac: i've never seen either of those AFAIK |
| 23:12:57 | scanline | Xentac: email them :) |
| 23:13:01 | prpplague | file: he's only five and already complete all of doom and almost complete doom2 |
| 23:13:04 | Xentac | scanline: both great movies... though, believe it or not, I like High Fidelity better |
| 23:13:11 | file | prpplague : takes after his dad? |
| 23:13:32 | prpplague | file: not me, i'm ok at the games, but he rocks, besides he's adopted |
| 23:13:34 | Xentac | prpplague: geez... I had only learned how to read and write by playing sierra games by the time I was 5 ;o) |
| 23:13:43 | file | prpplague : ic |
| 23:13:49 | Xentac | before we had these new-fangled things called mouses |
| 23:13:50 | file | should check to see if he has any homework |
| 23:14:24 | file | ..0 |
| 23:14:30 | file | oops |
| 23:14:44 | file | darn it |
| 23:14:50 | file | I don't have my math textbook so I can't do these questions |
| 23:15:03 | prpplague | file: ya ya |
| 23:15:38 | Xentac | hehehe... I remember reading an article... it was so funny... explaining that chi (inner strength, power, etc) was actually not gained from oneself, but given to the user by the devil |
| 23:15:56 | Xentac | and practicing the martial arts meant you would go to hell... even if it was purely for self defence |
| 23:16:05 | Xentac | and that the best way to defend yourself was to just give up |
| 23:16:07 | Xentac | etc etc |
| 23:21:52 | prpplague | well i know you guys are pretty young, but the last trip to OLS has given me a serious inferiority complexe, there are some really great developers out there adding to linux |
| 23:22:16 | Xentac | knows he's not one of them. |
| 23:22:47 | scanline | ooh ooh I want an inferiority complex too! |
| 23:22:49 | fraggle | heh |
| 23:22:55 | scanline | hasn't been around many other linux geeks... |
| 23:22:55 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 23:23:22 | Xentac | scanline: next year, if everything goes well... we can meet at OLS ;o) |
| 23:23:27 | scanline | :D |
| 23:25:16 | prpplague | you going next year? |
| 23:25:29 | Xentac | well... hopefully I'll be in Ottawa on a work term... |
| 23:25:31 | scanline | I might.. if I have money |
| 23:25:44 | Xentac | guesses prpplague wasn't talking to him... |
| 23:26:00 | Xentac | remembers, "right... inferiority complex..." |
| 23:26:07 | scanline | wasnt' sure whether prpplague was talking to him, but figures he's easy enough to ignore |
| 23:26:24 | prpplague | lol, talking to both of you |
| 23:28:24 | prpplague | scanline: why would need an inferiority complexe, after all you're doing so much good work with picogui |
| 23:28:45 | prpplague | scanline: not too many people can boast that they developed a gui |
| 23:28:49 | scanline | prpplague: yeah, but just look how non-buzzword-compliant I am! |
| 23:29:15 | scanline | I don't really like C++ or Java, I don't use XML much, what the hell would I use SOAP for, CORBA is overrated.... |
| 23:29:29 | prpplague | scanline: not to mention qt? |
| 23:29:35 | scanline | XHTML, Javascript, Flash, DHTML, Qt... |
| 23:29:45 | Xentac | notes that prpplague misses some important nouns... like "you" |
| 23:29:47 | scanline | yeah |
| 23:30:17 | scanline | prpplague: I dunno... just that I haven't been around many other developers in person, so I don't know what to expect |
| 23:30:29 | prpplague | Xentac: i have a bad cause of dislexia, and sometime i think i typed something and i didn't |
| 23:30:43 | Xentac | hehehe, I see |
| 23:32:22 | prpplague | Xentac: actually its a good story, when i was in school had to use a type writer because i had so much trouble writing, so when i was i the 5th grade our school got 6 new apple ][+ and none of teachers knew what to do with them so i ended up putting them together |
| 23:32:36 | prpplague | Xentac: thus began prp |
| 23:32:47 | prpplague | Xentac: 's computer fun |
| 23:33:04 | Xentac | hehehe, neato |
| 23:33:11 | Xentac | wonder's how old prpplague is |
| 23:33:13 | scanline | prpplague: you had Apple ][+ when you were in 5th grade? |
| 23:33:18 | scanline | prpplague: how old are you? |
| 23:33:19 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:33:50 | prpplague | 32 |
| 23:34:00 | scanline | remembers Apple ][e's and Mac LCs in his school when he was in the 3rd grade or so |
| 23:34:11 | scanline | I guess Apple ]['s were just around for a while... |
| 23:34:59 | prpplague | scanline: i really still like the 6502 processor... |
| 23:35:30 | scanline | I never got into assembly language before the PC took over |
| 23:36:12 | scanline | most technical thing I ever did with Apple ]['s was to fix broken floppy disk cards and joysticks |
| 23:36:12 | prpplague | i made a hell of alot of money on the apple ][ series |
| 23:36:33 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:37:16 | prpplague | i'd really like to teach but, you have to have ton of stupid educational classes |
| 23:39:30 | prpplague | scanline: so instead i just try to hier young ppl that have potential |
| 23:40:02 | scanline | prpplague: good strategy |
| 23:40:28 | file | pokes scanline |
| 23:40:43 | scanline | is poked |
| 23:41:09 | file | scanline: status of school? |
| 23:41:16 | file | still intact? |
| 23:41:22 | Xentac | geez... you see in the movies all these people training since they were "kids"... and then growing up to really kick ass... but I'm sort of an exception to the rule... don't you think? |
| 23:41:22 | scanline | huh? |
| 23:41:23 | scanline | yeah... |
| 23:42:17 | prpplague | Xentac: sorry that cat when directly to /dev/null |
| 23:42:48 | Xentac | prpplague: I was mostly talking to scanline... he's seen me train... |
| 23:43:11 | scanline | Xentac: how long have you been training for? |
| 23:43:19 | Xentac | just about 13 years... |
| 23:43:25 | prpplague | Xentac: training for what? |
| 23:43:29 | scanline | no wonder you're so kick-ass :) |
| 23:43:35 | Xentac | actually/// probably 13 years now... |
| 23:43:40 | Xentac | prpplague: karate... |
| 23:43:50 | Xentac | but I'm not kick ass... that's the problem... |
| 23:44:17 | prpplague | brb |
| 23:45:09 | file | wb prpplague |
| 23:48:42 | scanline | yay.. looks like my algorithms homework is functioning correctly |
| 23:48:47 | scanline | so time to upgrade yoshi |
| 23:53:37 | Xentac | scan[ibook]: so anyway... why do you think I kick ass? it's not like I can do anything that other people can't do... I think I'm even a sub-par black belt |
| 23:54:33 | file | hums a tune |
| 23:55:15 | scan[ibook] | Xentac: probably because I don't know much about karate and it looks impressive to me |
| 23:59:38 | prpplague | Xentac: karate eh |