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00:30.32Triztom du vill det så
00:50.26Triztjaja... drick nu inte för myjje gullden
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07:33.39gulldenhttp://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200602/22/20060222062538_SOS/20060222062538_SOS.dbp.asp
07:33.51gulldenhttp://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=177830&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=14749523#14749840
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07:59.33dholmhaha, gött :D
07:59.35dholmBeh!
08:05.23lisardhjosådär ja..
08:05.26lisardhjoelakt o fint..
08:45.44TriztUndra om det kommer o bli en smitningsolycka nära stripklubben...
08:55.52Triztlite synd att de inte hade klurat ut hans e-mail adress, hade vart kul o sätta spamassassin o skicka all spam tillbaks till han
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09:11.25dholmdå byter han ju bara adress
09:25.15Triztmöjligt att han gör, eller så börjar han skicka pengar till sig själv ;)
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11:22.56lisardhjojaha
11:23.17lisardhjonu ska jag nog äta lite..
11:23.18lisardhjovore gött
11:23.19lisardhjo:P
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13:13.31GGSlisaqrdhjo, Äter du fortfarande ?
13:41.22lisardhjonää
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18:36.01ironfisttrizt: du bor väl inte så nära järnvägsstationen/strippklubben? ..
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18:55.50Triztironfist; nej, men om man hade bott på rätt kontinent, så hade det vart värt o ta en bil o köra över killen
18:57.32lisardmanja
18:57.37lisardmanhelt klart
18:58.07Trizttycker USA borde göra mer för att avrätta spammare
18:58.23lisardmanja
18:58.28lisardmande flesta är ju där ifrån
18:59.32Triztjo, men konstigt nog så beskyller många amerikaner att all spam kommer från andra länder, men det är väl det enda som de inte vill vinna "world cup" i
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20:21.37TCDis Xgl can work on pegasos with linux?
20:22.18dholmyes
20:23.37TCDI still have problem with my peg
20:24.14TCDmemory is fine, I've did check it many times, fine no prpblems
20:25.18TCDyeaterday i opened my peg , I cleared cpu card sticks and I putted it back into slot, stil the same, compilation problems, but no more segfaults
20:25.45dholmdid you disable SMP?
20:25.51TCDi done emerge sync
20:25.55TCDyes i did
20:27.26TCDwhilst compiling kde i received a error about qt, something wrong with it, i'm emergeng it now
20:29.02ironfistand you recompiled the kernel and rebooted?
20:29.06ironfist(stupid question)
20:29.18kozzI ran Xgl in the peg the other day
20:29.47kozzdidn't manage to get hardware acceleration to work, but software was not bad anyway
20:30.17kozzwobbly windows are cool ;)
20:30.27dholmand highly useful
20:30.34kozzindeed
20:31.44TCDironfist: yes :-)
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20:32.02TCDDevelin
20:32.06DevelinTCD!
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20:32.36TCDi thinking about to join you and meet you at push this year
20:32.42TCDGGS
20:32.57lisardmanweeee
20:32.59DevelinTCD: ahh, cool =)
20:33.01lisardmanTCD, come to push
20:33.19TCDis anybody from TheUK coming on push?
20:33.20GGSHi TCD
20:33.27TCDHi Gune
20:33.44TCD^Gunne, I apologise
20:33.46GGSEverything altight
20:33.48lisardmanTCD, yes..  Amber-Inc
20:34.13TCDnot really, i cannot to install gentoo, something weird with my peg
20:34.32GGSok
20:34.41TCDlisardman: are you sure he will come?
20:34.49GGSI saw you wrote about it yes
20:35.15lisardmanTCD, don't know..  he said that..
20:35.42TCDi did all tests, i've checked everything, i didn't have any problems with kubuntu, mos etc., just gentoo makes me confused
20:35.59GGSTCD, ok
20:36.19DevelinTCD: you're not the only one that have problem running Gentoo on a Pegasos...
20:36.24Develin+s
20:38.12lisardmanvarför ska allt vara så krångligt i ubuntu
20:38.35kozzDevelin: martinalexander is not the only one having problem running MorphOS on the Pegasos :P
20:38.44GGSTCD, Well, if there is a small hardware problem with your Pegasos, which the might occur (randomly) under certains compilations or such, this is of course possible to solve.
20:38.56TCD!!! ERROR: x11-libs/qt-4.1.0-r2 failed !!! Function src_compile, Line 149, Exitcode 2 !!! (no errors)
20:39.20ironfistare you compiling testing? .. ~ppc
20:39.30TCDGGS: but there is no problem with kernel compilation at all
20:39.52ironfisttcd: did you emerge world first, btw?
20:40.02GGSTCD, Well, thats good then.
20:40.03TCDironfist: i just tried to compile qt, emerge qt
20:40.04dholmTCD: that is because the kernel is written in C and requires much less memory to compile (less error prone).. I told you this already
20:40.22TCDdholm: yes right
20:40.50dholmyou are much more likely to flush out hw issues when compiling larger C++ apps, like qt
20:41.19TCDdholm: could you please try to compile something on my peg remotely, i will open port 22 for you to it?
20:41.34dholmwhy?
20:41.37dholmwe already know it breaks
20:41.47Develinkozz: No, but I have problems only with Gentoo here
20:42.01dholmDevelin: maybe the problem isn't with Gentoo O.o
20:42.24TCDdholm: ports are opened for you right now
20:42.35Develindholm: Well, maybe not... it's not useful for the masses if I'm not able to use it properly
20:42.50dholmit's not targeting the masses
20:42.58DevelinI think I have some more experience than the avarage joe
20:43.15lisardmanDevelin, are you? o.0
20:43.24Develinlisardman: I hope so =)
20:44.01lisardmanDevelin, does mupper work for you then?
20:44.02DevelinDebian was a piece of cake to install and use..
20:44.12Develinmupper works great
20:44.23Develinonly Gentoo that causes problems
20:44.24lisardmanmupper is gentoo
20:44.29lisardmanmooaahh
20:45.01Triztlisardhjo; Develin don't manage to do much more than put a CD into a CDrom and type "boot cdrom" on SF ;)
20:45.12DevelinWell, I've followed the Gentoo-installation more times to remember but the result was always the same.
20:45.37lisardmanand the result was?
20:45.41TCDDevelin: what is the result then?
20:45.59DevelinThat it complains about some fs-problem
20:46.00dholmthe result: reading is not for the timid
20:46.11Triztlisardman; he ffell asleep after reading two lines ;P
20:46.18Develinwhile starting the system
20:46.19lisardmanTrizt, haha :P
20:46.38lisardmanDevelin, maybe your cdrom is broken or the CD-R
20:47.00Develinlisardman: I though that to... tried different mediums and players.. always the same
20:47.09Develinwell, that doesn't matters
20:47.18lisardmanyou are broken?
20:47.20lisardman:P
20:47.32lisardmanweird
20:47.42DevelinThat's prolly more likely... i'm not following the mainstream..
20:48.03lisardmanmaybe the one who made the iso is b0rked  
20:48.19TCDGGS: what you think, what can be wrong woth my machine?
20:48.20lisardmanwell maybe not..
20:48.29lisardmanlooks weird anyway..
20:48.33Develin"MorphOS ska det vara... inget annat ska det vara.." som Gurking sjunger =)
20:48.42lisardmanyou can use mupper to install gentoo
20:48.42Develin"Förpesta inte med andra operativsystem"
20:49.00TCDDevelin: my gentoo boots fine, I even compiled fluxbox succesfully
20:49.18DevelinTCD: so you have some faulty hw ?
20:49.26Develinmem module or so ?
20:49.35TCDDevelin: everything works fine, except emerge kde and another large packages
20:50.06DevelinTCD: Are you sure it's not a feature then ? =)
20:50.30GGSTCD, Well, I cant tell you what might be wrong. The only thing I can tell you is as I said above, that if you for instance get compiling errors on your Pegasos, for instance randomly, this can be because of a small hardware issue.
20:50.34DevelinWe have heard ppl. complain about problems before and got the answer... "It's not a bug, it's a feature"
20:50.53lisardman"It's not a bug, it's a feature"   standard morphos quote
20:51.07lisardman"two more weeks"   standard amiga quote
20:51.08GGSTCD, I or bplan can solve this for you.
20:52.29GGSTCD, So its up to you to decide.
20:53.22TCDGGS: i tried different memory, same problem
20:54.04Develinlisardman: "Works for me", standars Linux user =)
20:54.07TCDGGS: I didn't seen any problems before bacause i was never compiling such big application/packages before
20:54.24GGSTCD, Yes, I saw you wrote that, and my guess then is, its no idea to try with more different memory.
20:54.33GGSTCD, Yes, right.
20:55.11GGSTCD, There is some Pegasos that this hapens, and I or bplan can solve it.
20:56.06TCDWhwn I find time to send motherboard back to you, busy at work, no time for nothing :-)
20:56.21GGSTCD, But the problem do only happens when you do such kind of compilations. you can use the machine years without noticing this problem.
20:56.38TCDGGS: exactly
20:57.22TCDGGS: If somebody can sent my dvd with theirs gentoo system copy, that will be great :-)
20:57.58GGSTCD, hmmm..
20:58.17GGSTCD, whats wrong with ubuntu then ?
20:58.52dholmit's unoptimized for the G4?
20:59.11dholmit does not support (commercial) Java?
20:59.29dholmthere is no official mplayer (all codecs) support?
21:00.20GGSWell, you can install this likely as on any Linux system.
21:00.42dholmyes, but with 10 times as much work
21:00.53GGSUbuntu does not contain any restricted software as default.
21:01.27dholmmplayer isn't restricted in any way
21:01.40GGSSome codecs is
21:01.42dholmIBMs Java is not restricted
21:02.28dholmthis is all BS to stay on RMS  good side
21:02.32dholminherited from Debian
21:02.38lisardmanI don't like ubuntu either..
21:02.50dholmtheir policy should have been revised years ago
21:03.11dholmabout the same time as ppl started using linux because it was actually usable and not just something to tinker with
21:03.18GGSI dont know exactly about IBM's java. But last time i did read about it, you was needed to register personally for downloading.
21:03.30dholmand this is bad because..?
21:03.51GGSI do not see anything bad in it.
21:03.59dholmso why shouldn't it be supported?
21:04.03TriztI don't see anything good in it either
21:04.19dholmTrizt: we have Java instead of no Java
21:04.41GGSWait.
21:04.58dholmyes, we could wait, or we could simply start using linux today
21:05.08dholmlike I said, this is just bs blown up debians ass by rms
21:05.16TriztI don't think the registration made the difference, they would have made it anyway
21:05.33lisardmanRMS is a cracksmoker
21:05.44dholmnote that gentoo did have redistribution rights for quite some time (no reg required)
21:05.45lisardmanor what did linus said
21:06.36GGSFrom www.ubuntu.com
21:08.15GGSPatent and license restrictions on media formats complicate a free operating system's ability to distribute software that will support those formats.
21:08.41GGSThis page will walk you through getting support for the most popular non-free media formats.
21:08.45lisardmandoes it?
21:08.57dholmGGS: and how is this not RMS bs?
21:09.06GGSSome of the packages listed here may be illegal in your country. This page is not legal advice.
21:09.16lisardmanmay be
21:09.54kozz"Works for me" :P
21:11.56GGSEverything is to read on www.ubuntu.com for them who want to, including instructions how to install etc.
21:12.25GGSFor Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy), the easiest method is to use the Blackdown Java 1.4 installer from Multiverse. To install Java with the installer, just do:
21:12.45lisardmanfor install Blackdown java in Gentoo
21:13.04lisardmandownload the java-package from ibm
21:13.11dholmGGS: show me blackdown 1.4 for linux/ppc
21:13.24lisardmanhehe
21:15.58GGSJavaPPC then :-)
21:16.11dholm?
21:16.16GGSThere are two places to get Java for Ubuntu PPC: IBM and Blackdown.
21:16.32GGSIBM produces a Java Development Kit (JDK) for its POWER computers, which happens to also work on PPC. They are the only place to make available recent versions of Java for PPC Linux.
21:16.44dholmwe already know this, why are you telling us this?
21:18.25lisardmanhmm cracksmokers..
21:21.30kozzunfortunately is IBM's 1.5 sdk really slow.. :(
21:22.02kozzbut it do mostly work
21:30.46kozzdoes
21:55.51GGSdholm, Du kan lyssna på gurkings nya låt, så kanske du lugnar ner dig :-)
21:56.11dholmjag är lugn?
21:56.22lisardman<GGS> Develin, Så du tröttnade på att tjata med Linux-geeksen ? .-)
21:56.23GGSbra
21:56.48GGS<Develin> GGS: Ja =)

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