irclog2html for #pegasos.org on 20060106

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08:43.42*** topic/#pegasos.org is PUGS meeting - Friday 20060106 - Kaserntorget 6, Gothenburg - 18.30 GMT+1 - Meet UP !
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11:24.27ironfistmorron gunne
11:36.48GGSmorron
11:36.53GGS:-)
11:36.58GGSmitt på dan
11:37.57ironfistjupp, jag vaknade nyss...  heh..
11:38.00ironfistnån timme sen
11:38.05GGSok
11:38.27GGSjo, det är ju helgdag idag.
11:39.05ironfistprecis
11:56.48GGSkanske skall porta grep till MorphOS ? :-)
12:01.04GGSfanns visst redan
12:01.16GGSgrep
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12:15.40NekoXPno ops, neat
12:16.42GGSNeko, see topic
12:19.40NekoXPwhat...
12:19.46NekoXPpugs meeting?
12:20.09GGSyes
12:32.00ironfisti don't think neko can make it gunne
12:37.49GGSNo, but he knows about it now.
12:37.56*** join/#pegasos.org micken (n=micken@h25n1fls304o851.telia.com)
12:41.35GGSbut will be some other time maybe
13:03.45lisardmanGGS, he will maybe come to push?
13:08.56NekoXPwhy would I make it to push? that costs money :D
13:15.43GGSeverything cost money.
13:17.27GGSsoon you can run AmigaOS on the Pegasos.
13:17.43NekoXPLOL yeah right
13:18.01GGSjust a few days.
13:18.15ironfist"Two more weeks"
13:18.18NekoXPwho is porting it?
13:18.22ironfist"it's just around the corner!!!!11111111111"
13:18.32GGSIts already made.
13:19.08GGSThe 'genuine' AmigaOS it is.
13:21.06NekoXPhuh?
13:21.15NekoXPso who ported it, past tense?
13:21.39NekoXPor is this some kind of booted UAE?
13:27.41GGSJust wait, keep an eye on pegasos.org :-9
13:56.45mickenamigaos på peg, jo ja tack ja
13:56.48mickenar
13:58.08smfGGS:  Va du pratar.. :)
14:01.08lisardmanmm
14:01.09lisardman:P
14:07.01GGSja ja...
14:07.37GGSDet finns bara ett genuint AmigaOS, inte aros, inte MorphOS ... osv..
14:21.10GGSBtw, Neko are you using MorphOS anything ?
14:23.46NekoXPnot for anything important
14:23.55NekoXPI play Birdie Shoot every now and again
14:24.49NekoXPI would love to see a bootable morphos-birdieshoot thing so it boots like a console right into the game
14:31.18GGSThere have been some nice updates in Ambient the latest.
14:31.53NekoXPwell I don't manage files there or watch videos or play music etc.
14:31.58GGSBut perhaps you have seen it ?
14:32.02NekoXPit is a toy OS now I am not working on it
14:32.32NekoXPmy laptop runs XP and my PC under my TV runs XP, and it works for everything I want to do.. no need for MorphOS right now
14:33.04GGSWhats so fun with XP then ? :-)
14:34.36GGSIts just for using for work and business.
14:34.48GGSNothing more.
14:39.14NekoXPwell it plays my WMV HD movies better than MorphOS
14:42.01GGSok
14:44.55GGSWhat do you use the Pegasos for then ?
14:48.05GGSI guess its up to You.
14:49.16NekoXPI don't need one for daily life. Mostly I boot sven's installation DVD and install the system, then toy around in Linux for 10 minutes if I think there is a problem with the hardware.
14:49.33NekoXPthen it goes to a customer or a developer
14:50.29NekoXPI tinkered with Pieter's home theater stuff, it is really cool
14:50.41NekoXPI have a kind of low-profile pre-release of the one that won at FTF
14:51.03GGSBut You dont use it ?
14:52.23NekoXPit doesn't do what I want it to do, basically
14:52.45GGSBut its ok for a customer to use ?
14:52.54NekoXPwhat I want is ironically what Apple just started including with their iMac G5 stuff
14:53.05NekoXPjust DVD, Music, Movies, Photos.. easy to navigate...
14:53.18NekoXPPieter's HTPC thing drops to desktop too much for my personal liking
14:53.34NekoXPI think Myth is way too complicated and Linuxy
14:53.39GGSWhy dont use it then ?
14:54.02NekoXPbecause I can't afford a Mac G5 just to play a DVD? I have a perfectly suitable pentium and PowerCinema
14:54.25GGSI mean on the Pegasos.
14:54.34NekoXPbecause I told you, it sucks for me
14:54.48NekoXPI don't want to see the desktop to run an application, or navigate through 50 menus of plugins
14:55.25GGSSo you tell a customer. Here, this is good for You, use it, but it sucks for me.
14:59.05NekoXPyes
14:59.23NekoXPpersonally I think there is better use in the HTPC for people making their own solutions
14:59.39NekoXPthat is what we intend.. you have a totally configured Pegaoss with all the correct hardware, and you can put what you like on it
15:02.05GGSYes, I aggre on that, that usually its better for the user, to configure his own solution that suites his need.
15:04.19NekoXPbut I think we should have tried for something simpler to start with.. smaller, lower disk space, less features, and sold for cheaper, so that there is a market for people who just want a device that plays a DVD or can handle a photo gallery
15:04.32NekoXPunfortunately Linux+MythTV is way too complicated for this when it runs over X
15:06.26NekoXPfiles are stored in home directories you need to log in to get, users are introduced to words like "transcode" which are confusing
15:06.57NekoXPthe database you cannot back up properly so you could never do an upgrade to a prepackaged DVD solution, not as easy as a TiVo firmware for example
15:07.20GGSBut if i go to the Volvo shop for having a look for a Volvo, the salesman rarely tells me, hey this sucks get a SAAB :-)
15:08.04GGSIts right over the street.
15:08.08NekoXPhe would not sell a people carrier to an old woman though, but something smaller
15:08.47NekoXPif all he sold was people carriers, then it would be dishonest to say it was the perfect car for her.. 9 seats for a frail 70 year old with no family, is perfect!
15:09.10GGSYes, different solutions.
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15:11.18NekoXP_I don't think we have a solution for anything but the extreme high end geek tinkerer market at the moment
15:14.07NekoXPalthough we are priced for the mid-range :D
15:15.32GGSok, have to other things for a while.
16:57.42ironfistnehepp.. dax att åka
16:57.51ironfistsyns om en stund
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17:26.43kamelryttarnwazaaaaa duuuuudes!!!!
17:27.20kamelryttarningen vaken?
17:27.32kamelryttarnva e det för sätt :S
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17:38.16mickenwhoa
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18:35.39lisardmankamelryttarn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
18:36.03kamelryttarnhehe
18:36.05kamelryttarntjenare
18:36.17lisardmanGGS, XP stands for experience ..
18:36.28lisardmanhörde att du hadde köpt en leksak med scsi i
18:36.37kamelryttarnhehe... lätt
18:36.49kamelryttarnnu kör jag risc oxå
18:36.58lisardmanjasså?
18:37.03lisardmanvad har du skaffat nu då?
18:37.13kamelryttarnhehe... en sun enterprise 450  :D
18:37.21lisardmanhehe
18:37.28lisardmanoch kör solaris
18:37.31kamelryttarnjepp
18:37.32kamelryttarn10an
18:37.38lisardmansåg en frän burk tillsalu på Amigarulez
18:37.39kamelryttarnhar nog aldrig sett ett snyggare os
18:37.44lisardmanen SGi 320
18:37.51lisardmanJava Desktiop
18:37.54lisardmanDesktopo
18:37.56kamelryttarnnice :)
18:37.57lisardmanDesktop
18:37.58lisardmanhehe
18:38.04lisardmandet är juh gnome :P
18:38.11kamelryttarnjupps
18:38.22kamelryttarnjag har massor av disk i den oxå
18:38.36lisardmanjasså?
18:38.37kamelryttarn18x18GB hot swap scsi
18:38.50lisardmanhaha
18:38.51kamelryttarndet fattas 2 diskar i den men ev ska jag få dom senare
18:38.56lisardmansnyggt..
18:38.58kamelryttarnsamt mer minne och fler proppar
18:39.03lisardmanvad kostade den där då?
18:39.09kamelryttarndet är "bara" 2 i den nu men det skulle vart 4 enligt säljaren
18:39.16kamelryttarnpriset är konfidentiellt
18:39.36lisardmanmen troligtvis snorbilligt...
18:39.41kamelryttarnjepp :P
18:39.55lisardmanvilka prollar är det?
18:43.32kamelryttarn400MHz är allt jag vet
18:43.36kamelryttarnultra sparc 2
18:43.41kamelryttarningen aning om L2 än
18:43.44kamelryttarnska äta nu
18:43.46kamelryttarnbbl
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20:34.45GGSKöp Pegasos !
20:35.25GGSMed MorphOS.
20:35.39MerkoNää.. jag har hört att det är dåligt.
20:36.11GGSjaså.
20:36.29GGSDet är jättebra.
20:37.16MerkoOj, missade visst pugsmötet
20:37.28MerkoNåja.. vaknade 18.00 idag så. :)
20:37.39GGSjepp, du gjode det :-)
20:37.49GGSgjorde
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20:38.15Merkonytt personligt rekord i sömn, 15 timmar med bara ett kort avbrott efter 5 h.
20:38.45MerkoSov 14 timmar en gång i min ungdom när jag vakat två nätter i rad vill jag minnas.
20:38.59GGStänk hur mycket du kuinde gjort under den tiden.
20:41.40GGSVad sägs om en MorphOS-skola ?
20:41.52ironfisty0
20:43.33GGSDet blir PUSH.
20:53.42lisardhjogött
20:53.43lisardhjonär?
20:59.30GGSnär du vill
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22:51.55GGSThe only advantage OS4 has over morphOS as far as I can tell is that OS4 devs get paid for their work. I guess MorphOS team won´t give up on there work either but they are probobly kept away most of the time because they need to earn money from other things.
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