irclog2html for #pegasos.org on 20051202

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`07:41.14`	`lisardman`	`verkar som om mui-gtk �r klart..`
`07:41.37`	`lisardman`	`n�gon som har prvat?`
`07:42.25`	`lisardman`	`provat`
`07:43.09`	`lisardman`	`http://homes.hallertau.net/~oli/amizilla/gtk/status.html`
`07:43.29`	`lisardman`	`http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtk-mui/`
`07:54.59`	`Trizt`	`nepp, men ingen som h�ller p� med en gtk2->mui d�?`
`07:55.57`	`lisardman`	`�r inte gtk2 hemskt?`
`07:57.47`	`Trizt`	`som jag ser det, s� h�ller dom p� att g�ra mozilla till en gtk2 applikation, s� i framtiden s� e det nog det som kr�vs f�r att kunna f� den att fungera i amiga familjen n�r gtk+ e borta ur s�sen`
`07:59.42`	`lisardman`	`mjo`
`08:00.34`	`Trizt`	`kommer inom 1-2 �r att g�ra att amizilla projektet nog f�r b�rja om fr�n b�rjan`
`08:00.59`	`lisardman`	`ja..`
`08:01.17`	`lisardman`	`�r inte en del av gtk+ och gtk2 samma?`
`08:03.08`	`Trizt`	`det finns funktioner som �r samma, men return-v�rdet �r olika och vissa argument till funktionen �r av annan typ`
`08:03.18`	`lisardman`	`ok..`
`08:14.33`	`Trizt`	`sen hade man ju kunna ha en qt->mui oss�, finns ju en del program som anv�nder det`
`08:16.57`	`lisardman`	`jo`
`08:17.14`	`lisardman`	`o sedan beh�ver man en gcc3 eller 4`
`08:19.31`	`Trizt`	`japp, lika bra o satsa p� 4:an`
`08:21.11`	`Trizt`	`eller bara satsa p� att skriva en "lbox" till MorphOS, s� man kan k�ra linux i Morphos, d� blir det nog �nnu l�ttare att porta saker o ting ifall man hade n�n slags xlib->mui`
`08:50.18`	`lisardman`	`mjo`
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`10:13.31`	`dholm`	`me wants => http://www.projectblackdog.com/`
`10:14.36`	`lisardman`	`dholm wants => Debian-based Linux with 2.6.10 Kernel`
`10:17.18`	`lisardman`	`dholm: massa chixx0rs som springer inne hos mig idag..`
`10:17.59`	`dholm`	`varf�r?`
`10:18.06`	`lisardman`	`de �r gl�mska`
`10:18.13`	`lisardman`	`de har slarvat bort sina l�senord..`
`10:19.04`	`dholm`	`eeh, ok`
`10:19.08`	`dholm`	`�lderskategori?`
`10:19.23`	`lisardman`	`18-19`
`10:19.46`	`dholm`	`vad kostar det att f� ett nytt l�senord?`
`10:20.06`	`lisardman`	`observera att de har ett anv�ndarnamn som �r baserat p� deras personnr + namn.. och ett l�senord p� 4st tecken`
`10:20.09`	`lisardman`	`det kostar inget..`
`10:20.45`	`dholm`	`...`
`10:21.16`	`lisardman`	`om jag skulle ha ett anv�ndarnamn k810810mika s� skulle mitt ha blivit..`
`10:21.22`	`lisardman`	`inte direkt sv�rt..`
`10:21.33`	`lisardman`	`o 4st tecken i l�senordet �r inte sv�rt..`
`10:22.08`	`dholm`	`jag skulle ha haft, x1337ivan`
`10:22.18`	`dholm`	`mitt l�senord "kock"`
`10:22.42`	`lisardman`	`l�tt`
`10:25.17`	`Trizt`	`lisardman; varf�r tar du inte bort l�senordet helt, s� de slipper det problmemet?`
`10:25.44`	`dholm`	`du borde pwna deras MSN`
`10:25.53`	`dholm`	`tjenixen janne`
`10:25.57`	`dholm`	`har du �terv�nt fr�n de d�da :P`
`10:26.01`	`lisardman`	`nu har ett chixx har f�r 3:e ggr idag..`
`10:26.16`	`dholm`	`kan du inte b�rja h�lsa fr�n mig?`
`10:26.24`	`Trizt`	`dholm; bara f�r en liten stund, t�nkte ta mig en f�rmiddas lur`
`10:26.47`	`dholm`	`jobba inatt?`
`10:27.22`	`Trizt`	`tror du inte att det r�cker f�r lisardman att jobba dag?`
`10:27.40`	`dholm`	`g�r han ditt jobb ocks� d� :P`
`10:28.00`	`Trizt`	`om man hade haft n�tt s� hade han g�rna f�tt g�ra det`
`10:28.15`	`dholm`	`jobbar du inte kvar som kyrkovaktm�stare? :(`
`10:29.04`	`lisardman`	`dholm: det kan jag g�ra..`
`10:29.15`	`Trizt`	`kyrkog�rdsarbetar jobbet �r s�song, bara 7m�n/�r`
`10:32.08`	`dholm`	`�fan`
`10:32.15`	`dholm`	`lisardman: grymmt, thanks!`
`10:32.28`	`lisardman`	`Trizt = d�dgr�vare`
`10:32.47`	`dholm`	`Trizt = hin h�le`
`10:33.11`	`Trizt`	`att du kom p� mig`
`10:33.21`	`lisardman`	`Trizt = big hole`
`10:34.56`	`Trizt`	`lisardman; du ska inte anklaga andra f�r att vara vad du e :P`
`10:35.30`	`lisardman`	`hmm`
`10:35.32`	`lisardman`	`:P`
`10:35.40`	`lisardman`	`dags f�r mat snart..`
`10:36.23`	`Trizt`	`nu igen ;)`
`10:37.36`	`lisardman`	`ja`
`10:47.43`	`dholm`	`vad blir det idag?`
`10:49.14`	`lisardman`	`pannbiff..`
`11:35.57`	`lisardman`	`hmm..`
`11:46.40`	`Trizt`	`n�n som snott din biff eller?`
`11:47.17`	`lisardman`	`nepp den �r upp�ten nu..`
`11:48.50`	`kozz`	`mmm, spansk korvgryta`
`11:48.52`	`kozz`	`det e mums det`
`11:48.53`	`Trizt`	`men fortfarande hungrig`
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`11:50.21`	`lisardman`	`nja..`
`11:50.23`	`lisardman`	`vette fan`
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`13:22.42`	`*** topic/#pegasos.org by dholm -> #Pegasos.org - Mupper v1.0 has been released, http://www.mupper.org \| gurking has a new gallery ! \| Gunne's new homepage, http://pastebin.ca/ \| http://tinyurl.com/ is your friend`
`13:23.26`	`smf`	`dholmMEDDENNYATOPICEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1`
`13:27.05`	`dholm`	`omfglolstfmf1!!!!!!111!1!!1!!`
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`15:57.59`	`epideme`	`ADDA`
`15:58.41`	`Trizt`	`ML`
`15:58.59`	`epideme`	`;)`
`16:01.23`	`dholm`	`eieio`
`16:01.49`	`epideme`	`s� sant s�...`
`16:03.12`	`epideme`	`lisardman!`
`16:09.39`	`lisardman`	`Epideme_afk!`
`16:10.09`	`epideme`	`adda nu...`
`16:12.26`	`epideme`	`har lisardman f�tt i sin adda �n eller hann jag f�rst?`
`16:19.53`	`lisardman`	`Epideme_afk: du hann f�rst :P`
`16:20.06`	`lisardman`	`Epideme_afk: brorsan fyller �r idag s� jag ska dit sen..`
`16:25.01`	`lisardman`	`Epideme_afk: har du kde3.5 eller hinner jag f�re :P`
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`16:52.42`	`lisardman`	`_Develin_`
`16:57.02`	`lisardman`	`jaha`
`17:05.22`	`Epideme_afk`	`kde 3.5 kompilerar nu...`
`17:09.37`	`kozz`	`sed�r, det e grymmt`
`17:10.18`	`kozz`	`g�tt med popup blocker i konqueror`
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`17:33.24`	`Develin`	`H�jj lissy`
`17:34.35`	`TCD`	`Develin: :D`
`17:35.15`	`Develin`	`TCD: Long time no see =)`
`17:36.06`	`TCD`	`Develin: I have no problems with my peg any more`
`17:36.43`	`Develin`	`TCD: You sold your pegasos ? =)`
`17:37.13`	`TCD`	`Develin: yeah`
`17:37.23`	`TCD`	`Develin: come on, i'm not crazy`
`17:37.52`	`Develin`	`TCD: Nahh, I didn't think so either... Mikey_C think that I assume =)`
`17:38.32`	`TCD`	`Develin: Mikey_C, what;s wrong with him :D`
`17:39.13`	`TCD`	`Develin: i spend some time on reading this nasty topic AmigOS4 vs MorphOS and I 've enought`
`17:39.19`	`Develin`	`TCD: What's not wrong with that man... Have you seen the gigantic thread on aw.net lately ? =)`
`17:40.33`	`TCD`	`Develin: yes, indeed, but tjhis guy polka is some kind of idiot too, what you think?`
`17:41.42`	`Develin`	`TCD: Yeah, havn't seen any post of him before though... And Mikey do always has a itch in his moderator-fingers when someone mention MOS... Doesn't like that`
`17:42.03`	`Epideme_afk`	`Promote equal rights for PPC's... Fight Amigapartheid ;)`
`17:42.36`	`Develin`	`he`
`17:42.37`	`TCD`	`Develin: yes, he hates mos, but not pegasos aa HW solution`
`17:43.41`	`Develin`	`TCD: I can't understand why he hate MOS that much... It's really pathetic having these feelings a chap at his age..`
`17:43.58`	`Develin`	`He prolly is 40 or something... gehh, that's pretty pathetic IMO. =)`
`17:44.03`	`TCD`	`Develin: mate, it's his problem, not ours`
`17:44.32`	`TCD`	`actually hi's 40, this year`
`17:44.53`	`Develin`	`TCD: Well, contributing to that site isn't funny when some1 like him moderate away decent threads all the time..`
`17:45.44`	`Develin`	`As a member of that site, I think I could say what I want about how that particular moderator is handling the case.`
`17:46.59`	`TCD`	`Develin: Most of the ppl voted to leave Amigaworld.net dedicated for OS4 only (his words)`
`17:47.32`	`Develin`	`Many of his comments indicate he is not very familiar with how the Amiga works at all.. and he is a moderator for an Amiga-site... that says it all`
`17:47.54`	`Develin`	`TCD: That's not true according to the poll given some time ago`
`17:48.49`	`Develin`	`There are 4000 members (almost) and max 1500 A1's sold... 68k-users outnumbers the OS4-users`
`17:49.04`	`TCD`	`Develin: leave it, leave him alone`
`17:49.15`	`Develin`	`So I treat everything he says as utterly bullshit`
`17:49.50`	`TCD`	`how many pegasos machines was sold?`
`17:49.58`	`Develin`	`I've tried to get my account removed from the site 5 times... but they havn't removed it yet even though I've interact with several moderators`
`17:49.58`	`TCD`	`more than that?`
`17:50.21`	`Develin`	`Yes, there is more pegasos created than A1's`
`17:50.32`	`TCD`	`Develin: have you spoken with DaveD?`
`17:50.50`	`Develin`	`I've talked to Mike (gee) Bouma and Wegster`
`17:51.30`	`TCD`	`Develin: maybe in the future we will see OS4 on peg, and after that WE will be the better, not crappy A1 HW :D`
`17:52.12`	`Develin`	`If you see what zerohero wrote to the thread.. I can't understand why a lot of OS4-users can't follow his line..`
`17:52.43`	`Develin`	`And he got accused directly to be a Peg-user by Mikey... that's why I don't like to be a part of that site any longer`
`17:52.48`	`TCD`	`Develin: hey mate, forget it, leave this alone`
`17:54.03`	`Develin`	`TCD: Well, most of the bullshit from the users seem to have tuned down... but as long as their "boss" is head troll there won't be good condition between them (red vs. blue) that's all`
`17:54.17`	`TCD`	`Develin: I want OS4 on mu peg, not because I don't like MOS, because I want to proof tHEM, whitch HW is better`
`17:55.06`	`Develin`	`Ofcourse, I want OS4 aswell but why o why must there constantly be so much BS as quick as they say the MOS-word ?`
`17:55.33`	`Develin`	`There has never been so on Pegasos.org or Morphzone etc.. when there have been talk about OS4...`
`17:55.44`	`TCD`	`Develin: exactly, they afraid of pegasos`
`17:56.39`	`Develin`	`And they can't let the past be the past that's also a common reminder..`
`17:57.09`	`TCD`	`Develin: let's close this right now, are you linux user too?`
`17:57.18`	`mejde`	`haha`
`17:57.19`	`Develin`	`Like I said on that thread, I don't care if Bill Gates or Satan was behind the machine... The system is to nice to be ignored`
`17:57.39`	`Develin`	`Hell no... I use it for what it was created for...`
`17:57.59`	`TCD`	`Develin: come on mate, leave the poor ppl alone with thair ignorance`
`17:58.45`	`Develin`	`TCD: Well, most of my intention is to wake the Friedens that they need a solid machine to run OS4 on... not some garage product like the Troika etc.`
`17:59.34`	`TCD`	`Develin: garage product, hehe`
`18:00.17`	`Develin`	`TCD: Well, looking back by Ian's previous work it will not be something useful at all`
`18:00.48`	`TCD`	`Develin: what do you think about the new machines from bPlan?`
`18:01.28`	`Develin`	`I've seen it... running and it's physical real.. that's a major difference`
`18:02.57`	`Develin`	`I'll get myself a Efika if it can use MOS not otherwise`
`18:03.11`	`TCD`	`Develin: that troika board, wasn't exist yet right?`
`18:04.04`	`TCD`	`Develin: Personally I don't need another HW like Efika or other, I'm quite happy with my peg`
`18:04.21`	`Develin`	`TCD: All they have showed us is the "northbridge"-kit, some text and some lame exuses for not being able to show the prototype.`
`18:04.34`	`Develin`	`ohh, I forgot... a crappy home page too =)`
`18:05.05`	`TCD`	`Develin: yes, pretty crappy`
`18:05.53`	`Develin`	`They didn't show the card on BB3 because of what they said lack of soundchip... that didn't stop A1 from even be sold to the end users..`
`18:07.24`	`Develin`	`All grounds in that Eyetech, Amiga Inc. and Hyperion have a deal... That's why they havn't done OS4 on Pegasos IMO.`
`18:07.48`	`TCD`	`Develin : I was on the BB3 show, you have to see someone's faces, confused and ... you know what I mean`
`18:07.50`	`Develin`	`Alan hates BBRV`
`18:08.50`	`Develin`	`TCD: Yes, I get it =)`
`18:08.55`	`TCD`	`Develin: but Alan has nothing to say about Aos4 future roght now, there's no AmigaOne HW anymore, and of story`
`18:09.48`	`Develin`	`TCD: That doesn't really matters since Alan put some money in the OS4-project when they had a really hard time... dunno how much, but I assume he got some sort of deal for it.`
`18:10.28`	`GGS`	`TCD, It says in the README for gtk-mui that the OS4-developer only complains about everything... :-)`
`18:10.40`	`TCD`	`Develin: How much you ganna pay for OS4 on peg if it will be available for our machine?`
`18:12.22`	`TCD`	`Develin: ?`
`18:12.23`	`Develin`	`TCD: 100 EUR`
`18:12.30`	`TCD`	`Develin: me too`
`18:12.41`	`TCD`	`GGS: how much you can pay Gunne?`
`18:13.56`	`dholm`	`is it possible to return morphos and get my money back for it?`
`18:14.22`	`TCD`	`dholm: so you're tha one of this developers? :-(`
`18:14.32`	`dholm`	`what now?`
`18:15.36`	`TCD`	`dholm: is genesi own you a money, how much?`
`18:15.42`	`dholm`	`no`
`18:17.26`	`GGS`	`TCD, You mean for personal use ?`
`18:17.34`	`TCD`	`dholm: any time on my linux, when system loading something from hard drive the cpu usage comes to 100%, even if DMA enabled, is somethig wrong with my hdparm settings or it's something else?`
`18:17.38`	`mejde`	`dholm: rotfl! Microsoft tactics! ;)`
`18:17.42`	`TCD`	`GGS yes`
`18:17.50`	`dholm`	`mejde: exactly :D`
`18:18.54`	`GGS`	`TCD, Dont know, on a personal level Im not so ver interested in AmigaOS 4. Im using MorphOS myself.`
`18:21.44`	`TCD`	`GGS: me want OS4 on peg, but you have amigaone too, isn't?`
`18:22.11`	`GGS`	`The best is to not read som much what is written in such threads or forums as aw.net.`
`18:23.07`	`TCD`	`GGS: I don't care what is the topic lake this`
`18:23.19`	`TCD`	`^like this :D`
`18:24.11`	`GGS`	`TCD, No, I have no AmigaOne. My aim in the beginning was to keep a Mini A1 for myself, but as its not possible to get boards it bacame not out that way.`
`18:24.34`	`GGS`	`became`
`18:25.21`	`GGS`	`I have enough with computers.`
`18:27.52`	`dholm`	`make your time!`
`18:28.44`	`TCD`	`GGS: anyway , thanx again for .. you know for what :D`
`18:28.53`	`mejde`	`you have no chance to survive`
`18:29.06`	`mejde`	`hahahaha`
`18:29.39`	`mejde`	`For great justice!`
`18:29.49`	`TCD`	`mejde: are you ubuntu fan?`
`18:29.54`	`dholm`	`launch all zig`
`18:30.31`	`mejde`	`our future's hope...`
`18:30.46`	`TCD`	`mejde: ubuntu?`
`18:30.59`	`mejde`	`TCD: no, I'm a CAT`
`18:31.20`	`Develin`	`He's a XP troll didn't you know that =)`
`18:31.31`	`TCD`	`dholm: i asked you something about linux...`
`18:31.50`	`GGS`	`Develin, Har du testat kompilera gtk-mui ?`
`18:32.09`	`Develin`	`GGS: Snart =)`
`18:32.32`	`GGS`	`Develin, ok`
`18:32.56`	`dholm`	`mejde: what you say!!`
`18:33.25`	`mejde`	`dholm: You have no chance to survive make your time.`
`18:33.34`	`mejde`	`dholm: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....`
`18:34.16`	`dholm`	`Captain !!`
`18:35.30`	`mejde`	`and now I'm a hungry CAT... bbl =)`
`18:37.00`	`Epideme_afk`	`Hmmm... Main screen turn on...`
`18:37.16`	`dholm`	`Somebody set us up the bomb.`
`18:37.35`	`Epideme_afk`	`We get signal`
`18:40.09`	`Epideme_afk`	`Hmmm... Suddenly my emerge -u world went into kde-base category ;)`
`18:42.19`	`dholm`	`TCD: you should ask gunne, he is the one selling it, not me :P`
`18:47.24`	`TCD`	`dholm: ok, but you're linux Guru :D`
`18:47.53`	`dholm`	`only between nine and five ;)`
`18:48.40`	`TCD`	`dholm: hehe`
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`19:14.04`	`TCD`	`GGS: have you seen this efika movie? Why this guy on this movie smiles and behave as an idiot?:D`
`19:14.37`	`Develin`	`TCD: Because he is Bill Buck ? =)`
`19:14.48`	`TCD`	`Develin: hehehe`
`19:15.18`	`TCD`	`Develin: but he was behave strange isn't?`
`19:16.01`	`Develin`	`TCD: He seems a little over excited for the product... maybe he has some reasons for it dunno =)`
`19:16.27`	`TCD`	`Develin: hehe, maybe :D`
`19:17.04`	`Trizt`	`pott? ;)`
`19:17.19`	`TCD`	`development system, lol`
`19:17.41`	`dholm`	`they have wanted to make a hand-held for a long time, and now they finally get to do it`
`19:17.47`	`dholm`	`that's why they are so excited about it`
`19:17.51`	`Develin`	`Trizt: good weed maan...`
`19:17.59`	`Trizt`	`:)`
`19:18.03`	`Develin`	`=)`
`19:18.36`	`Trizt`	`maybe we should have a pott comeptition on next PUSH ;)`
`19:18.44`	`GGS`	`TCD, Good if he is happy.`
`19:19.23`	`TCD`	`GGS: ok, explain me one think, bPlan makes boerds, so why is Genesi then ? :)`
`19:19.41`	`dholm`	`to correct the spelling? :P`
`19:19.46`	`Trizt`	`they are the PR guys`
`19:20.02`	`dholm`	`Genesi and bPlan are the same company`
`19:20.27`	`TCD`	`dholm: so why 2 different names?`
`19:20.48`	`dholm`	`because they used to e two companies`
`19:20.54`	`dholm`	`*be`
`19:21.43`	`TCD`	`develin: who is laughing in the background, some OS4 agents?`
`19:21.49`	`GGS`	`bPlan is a company, that began to be shortly after phase5 did break.`
`19:22.14`	`Trizt`	`TCD; the other pottheads`
`19:22.44`	`TCD`	`GGS: hmm, thanx to explain me that, I'm using pegesos for quite somew time and I have no idea from where is this come from, shame on me, really`
`19:22.53`	`Develin`	`TCD: Maybe Thomas Kn�bel or Neko... dunno =)`
`19:23.06`	`GGS`	`phase5 went into bancrupty, and some of the people working at phase5 started bPlan.`
`19:23.21`	`Develin`	`Raquel is also on some frames (or an arm of her is) =)`
`19:23.27`	`GGS`	`Develin, Neko was not involved.`
`19:23.39`	`TCD`	`Develin: this system seems very interesting and looks, sexy eighter :D`
`19:24.04`	`Develin`	`GGS: Nahh correct... He never laughs... only criticize =)`
`19:24.10`	`TCD`	`Develin: but nothing is better than my peg2`
`19:24.42`	`Develin`	`TCD: Well, I don't think you met the correct blond with gigantic hOOters then =)`
`19:24.43`	`GGS`	`Around 2002, Bill Buck, thierry etc did visit bPlan, and started a relations-ship.`
`19:25.22`	`dholm`	`which is slightly larger than a freight ship but much smaller than an aircraft carrier O.o`
`19:25.57`	`Trizt`	`dholm; beendrinking now again?`
`19:26.12`	`dholm`	`I'm drinking some wine actually`
`19:26.25`	`Trizt`	`you make less sence than normaly ;)`
`19:27.01`	`TCD`	`GGS: so we know who is bplan, so who is Bill then?`
`19:27.02`	`dholm`	`at least I'm in good company :P`
`19:27.03`	`Trizt`	`by the way, I didn't know they had wine in an islamic community`
`19:27.13`	`GGS`	`Thierry then had the Company Thendic France. and as they had possibilty to finance, they started to put money into Pegasos and MorphOS.`
`19:27.39`	`TCD`	`GGS: sdaly many of mos developers stays unpaid :(`
`19:27.44`	`TCD`	`^sadly`
`19:28.11`	`Trizt`	`TCD; I think it's their own fault, not making a good contract that stated they would have a monthly pay`
`19:28.22`	`GGS`	`Genesi was formed later, when for moving things from Thendic to Genesi.`
`19:29.36`	`GGS`	`TCD, Well, I dont know about this with possible unpaid people. You have to ask the involved people.`
`19:30.18`	`TCD`	`GGS: What's happened with gallery?`
`19:31.04`	`TCD`	`GGS: on pegasos.org website`
`19:32.04`	`GGS`	`Gallery works here. Whats the problem ?`
`19:32.22`	`TCD`	`GGS: let me check pls`
`19:32.24`	`GGS`	`Link on the top of the page.`
`19:32.33`	`TCD`	`GGS: ok, hehe, thanx`
`19:36.53`	`mejde`	`Damn, the copy controlled audio CD I bought is only compatible with Windows and Mac OS... no copy control for me :(`
`19:37.12`	`dholm`	`t's an engineering masterpiece O.O`
`19:37.37`	`dholm`	`which one is it?`
`19:37.51`	`mejde`	`gessle`
`19:38.04`	`dholm`	`ok :P`
`19:38.06`	`mejde`	`sigh`
`19:38.13`	`mejde`	`"they" don't get it`
`19:38.32`	`dholm`	`what did you expect?`
`19:38.50`	`mejde`	`all it takes is for one persone somewhere around the world to "break" it and it's all over the net`
`19:39.11`	`dholm`	`are you sure?!?!?!`
`19:39.20`	`dholm`	`that's not what ms told us?!?!?`
`19:39.33`	`mejde`	`that person will always exist, I'm sure yes ;)`
`19:39.35`	`dholm`	`..is how they would react if you told them`
`19:41.14`	`dholm`	`I'm sure someone will use that as an argument against Linux`
`19:41.31`	`mejde`	`copy control on audio CDs is even more idiotic than copy control on games... I mean, you'll always be able to play it somehow...`
`19:41.57`	`dholm`	`yup`
`19:42.21`	`mejde`	`but then again, perhaps one should be so sure on that one... ;)`
`19:43.52`	`dholm`	`soon you won't find red book cds, only discs that contain WMA DRM-compatible media`
`19:45.22`	`TCD`	`ok gentelmen, it's time to leave, bye`
`19:45.37`	`*** part/#pegasos.org TCD (n=pawel@ACD8871D.ipt.aol.com)`
`19:54.55`	`mejde`	`+n't`
`19:59.25`	`dholm`	`new technology?`
`20:01.51`	`Trizt`	`norsk torsk`
`20:08.30`	`mejde`	`hum... skall det verkligen vara mod 2^16-1 och inte mod 2^16 n�r man ber�knar internet checksum:an?`
`20:09.14`	`dholm`	`har Internet en checksum!? tar ett tag att r�kna ut va? :P`
`20:09.46`	`Trizt`	`md5sum internet`
`20:10.03`	`mejde`	`det �r enklare �n s�...`
`20:10.05`	`dholm`	`wget -r *\|md5sum`
`20:10.15`	`mejde`	`16-bits add mod 2^16-1`
`20:19.00`	`mejde`	`gl�mde ett - framf�r hela skiten`
`20:20.09`	`Trizt`	`1+2^16-1 ?`
`20:22.14`	`mejde`	`-(16bit_sum mod 2^16-1)`
`20:26.54`	`Trizt`	`blir inte det -1 ?`
`20:28.26`	`mejde`	`vad blir -1?`
`20:29.24`	`mejde`	`en checksum som alltid blir -1 �r inte s� nyttig ;)`
`20:30.11`	`mejde`	`http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1071.txt`
`20:34.36`	`mejde`	`"adding the 16-bit integers b0 + b1 + b2 ... bL-1 using regular 32-bit addition. The modulo 2^16-1 reduction is done by taking the 16 higher-order bits in the`
`20:34.37`	`mejde`	`sum, shifting them down by 16 positions, and adding them back to the sum`
`20:34.37`	`mejde`	`"`
`20:34.53`	`mejde`	`varf�r 32?`
`20:35.07`	`mejde`	`ah`
`20:35.09`	`mejde`	`var inget`
`20:39.09`	`mejde`	`man kanske skall l�sa vad man klistrar in innan man klistrar in n�'t ;)`
`20:40.25`	`dholm`	`nah`
`20:40.41`	`dholm`	`varf�r kasta bort tid p� s�nt som andra kan g�ra �t en?`
`20:47.27`	`mejde`	`ja, varf�r?`
`20:48.15`	`Trizt`	`checksums �r f�r chickens ;)`
`20:50.12`	`mejde`	`det �r d�rf�r man inte har n�gon i ipv6 :)`
`20:56.44`	`mejde`	`natt`
`20:56.54`	`dholm`	`dag`
`20:57.43`	`lisardman`	`natt`
`20:58.17`	`Trizt`	`god 22:00`
`21:57.20`	`GGS`	`god 23.00`
`22:07.17`	`Trizt`	`god 23:07 :)`
`22:32.17`	`GGS`	`god 23.36:30`
`22:34.54`	`Trizt`	`nu blir du allt f�r nogran`
`22:35.06`	`Trizt`	`o min klocka e inte �ns 35`
`22:35.28`	`Trizt`	`23:35:21`
`22:36.28`	`GGS`	`M�ndal ligger alltid efter :-)`
`22:37.24`	`Trizt`	`jaja...`
`22:37.40`	`GGS`	`Liksom Malm�..`
`22:38.15`	`Trizt`	`men det �r ju f�rklarligt, eftersom malm� ligger i danmark`
`22:40.50`	`*** join/#pegasos.org Merko (i=Merko@c83-248-67-112.bredband.comhem.se)`
`22:41.07`	`GGS`	`det har varit lite Gentoo-nyheter det sista.`
`22:41.28`	`Trizt`	`dave har varit lat...`
`22:41.35`	`Trizt`	`morjes Merko`
`22:41.40`	`Merko`	`h�js`
`22:41.46`	`GGS`	`Hej Merko`
`22:42.02`	`Merko`	`s�d�r.. nu har jag skickat in mina hemliga algoritmer f�r publikation. :-P`
`22:42.30`	`Trizt`	`kul, vad blev det? ett femtonspel? ;)`
`22:42.33`	`GGS`	`Hanskrivningsprogrammet ?`
`22:42.40`	`GGS`	`Hand`
`22:42.48`	`Merko`	`n�e.. approximativ str�ngs�kning i en ordlista`
`22:43.01`	`Merko`	`en grej jag hittade p� f�r handskrivningen, men det verkade vara en ny grej`
`22:43.38`	`GGS`	`ok, vad g�r det ut p� ?`
`22:44.00`	`Merko`	`tja, man har en str�ng, och s� vill man hitta liknande str�ngar som finns i ordlistan`
`22:44.33`	`Trizt`	`l�ter som n�gon spelar alla ring-o-vin spelen p� dags tv ;)`
`22:45.20`	`GGS`	`Finns inte s�dant redan ?`
`22:45.22`	`Merko`	`Trizt: det p� tv4? Tror inte man ska ringa.. d�remot l�nar det sig att vara med i studion. K�nner flera som cashat in d�r. :)`
`22:45.37`	`Merko`	`GGS: jo, men de algoritmerna �r kassa ;)`
`22:46.03`	`Trizt`	`finns p� tv3, tv4, kanal5 och ztv...`
`22:46.31`	`Trizt`	`men det g�ller o komma till studion f�rst... s� man �r illa nog tvungen o ringa iaf en g�ng`
`22:46.41`	`Merko`	`Trizt: inte i det p� tv4.`
`22:47.14`	`GGS`	`Merko, vart har du skickat det d� ?`
`22:47.16`	`Trizt`	`inte... e inte s� inne p� det d�r, hade ist�llet hoppats p� att kunna k�ra ett eget s�nt program o tj�nat gott om pengar`
`22:48.23`	`Merko`	`GGS: "Software practice and experience". De hade Don Knuth och Brian Kernighan som "advisory board" s� det verkar vettigt. :)`
`22:49.07`	`GGS`	`ok, d�r ser man, alltid l�r man sig n�got :-)`
`22:49.07`	`Merko`	`Trizt: hehe.. vad tror du om sudoku.nu? Generera nya sudokus i realtid s� f�r folk betala 1 �re per sudoku, eller n�t. Plus 10 �re om de vill ha l�sningen. ;-)`
`22:49.46`	`Trizt`	`jo, det �r ju en bra ide... det �r ju popul�rt`
`22:50.50`	`Trizt`	`tror man kan hoppa upp till 50�re per sudoku och 1kr per l�sning`
`22:50.50`	`Merko`	`n� nu ska jag k�ka mat`
`22:50.59`	`Trizt`	`n�tt g�tt?`
`22:52.27`	`GGS`	`�r det verkliigen m�nga som laddar ner s�dan spel..`
`22:52.27`	`Merko`	`g�tt k�tt`
`22:52.41`	`Merko`	`g�tt r�tt k�tt tom :)`
`22:53.11`	`Trizt`	`r� julskinka?`
`22:53.40`	`Trizt`	`GGS; man vet aldrig, det �r ju v�ldigt popul�rt med sudoku nuf�rtiden`
`22:54.30`	`GGS`	`Trizt, Ok, det var en jag k�nner som ville vi tillsamans skulle b�rja s�lja ringsignaler till mobiltelefoner.`
`22:55.04`	`GGS`	`Och bilder och saker..`
`22:55.30`	`Trizt`	`de hade man kunnat tj�na en hacka p�, tror den marknaden h�ller lite p� att mattas ut... tror de blir mer som extra tj�nst p� abonnemanget`
`22:56.23`	`Trizt`	`fast det �r kanske m�jligt o tj�na en del p� det fortfarande, vad vet jag`
`23:03.33`	`GGS`	`Jag f�r skriva ihop en guide ang TV-kort i MorphOS ocks�.`
`23:03.53`	`Trizt`	`det skulle vara nice`
`23:04.21`	`GGS`	`H�r �r b�rjan till Ambient-guide f�r den som vill l�sa, www.ggsdata.se/Ambientguide.pdf`
`23:05.04`	`GGS`	`Det �r en del stavfel och s�dant, skall korrigeras sedan, kommer nog bli 100 sidor n�r den �r klar.`
`23:05.05`	`Trizt`	`f�r kika p� den d�`
`23:06.20`	`Trizt`	`Tror du kan g� ner lite p� fontstorleken`
`23:06.39`	`GGS`	`ok`
`23:08.26`	`Trizt`	`rubrikstorleken �r nog okey tycker jag, men den l�pande texten kanske ner tv� punkter`
`23:12.00`	`GGS`	`jo, kanske`

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