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`05:02.16`	`lisardhjo`	`Frek`
`05:23.27`	`lisardhjo`	`daaaiiiv...`
`05:52.01`	`lisardhjo`	`��hh. bara 6st downloads p� senaste mupper`
`05:52.08`	`lisardhjo`	`kom igen o b�rja tanka era j�vlar :P`
`05:56.47`	`lisardhjo`	`jag vill ha bra stats :P`
`06:02.39`	`kozz`	`leeeeech`
`06:03.04`	`lisardhjo`	`mm`
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`06:12.05`	`lisardhjo`	`mmm`
`06:12.23`	`lisardhjo`	`m�ste installera wmvare nu`
`06:23.01`	`kozz`	`vaff�?`
`06:23.26`	`lisardhjo`	`f�r att det �r bra o ha`
`06:23.45`	`kozz`	`aight`
`06:23.57`	`lisardhjo`	`hmm skyos verkar riktigt fr�nt`
`06:24.05`	`kozz`	`kan det vara, om du vill k�ra debian i gentoo :)`
`06:24.13`	`lisardhjo`	`hahahaha`
`06:24.24`	`lisardhjo`	`men d� kan man juh k�ra en chroot ist�llet`
`06:24.32`	`lisardhjo`	`det �r juh b�ttre`
`06:24.54`	`kozz`	`d� kan du ju inte k�ra debian coola k�rnor`
`06:24.56`	`lisardhjo`	`har du tankat senaste mupper nu d�..`
`06:25.01`	`kozz`	`jopp`
`06:25.11`	`kozz`	`ligger p� /stuff nu`
`06:25.16`	`lisardhjo`	`den kom ov�ntat ig�r`
`06:25.32`	`kozz`	`verkligen`
`06:25.43`	`lisardhjo`	`mmm`
`06:25.56`	`lisardhjo`	`s� nu installerar jag xp i en wmware..`
`06:26.02`	`lisardhjo`	`det tar en stund om man s�ger s�..`
`06:26.06`	`kozz`	`skulle vara fint med en ordentlig changelog`
`06:26.19`	`lisardhjo`	`orka.. :P`
`06:26.22`	`lisardhjo`	`hehe`
`06:26.31`	`lisardhjo`	`har faktiskt funderat p� det..`
`06:26.48`	`lisardhjo`	`f�r v�l b�rja med det..`
`06:26.55`	`lisardhjo`	`fast mupper �r bara f�r skojjs skull..`
`06:27.19`	`lisardhjo`	`jag har nya saker p� G serru..`
`06:27.21`	`kozz`	`ja`
`06:27.37`	`kozz`	`men du har ju f�tt lite betalt f�r jobbet nu :)`
`06:27.43`	`lisardhjo`	`jao..`
`06:27.49`	`lisardhjo`	`roligare o grejja d�..`
`06:27.54`	`lisardhjo`	`om n�gon tycker det �r bra..`
`06:28.24`	`kozz`	`det �ger`
`06:28.40`	`lisardhjo`	`den bootar snabbt iaf..`
`06:30.36`	`lisardhjo`	`fan jag vill ha 1.7ghz:an`
`06:30.41`	`kozz`	`DRI va ganska b0rk i Ubuntu Breezy, va kompilerat f�r fel version`
`06:31.01`	`kozz`	`s� kopiera en �ldre version av dri fr�n en annan maskin s� fungera det :)`
`06:31.06`	`kozz`	`jao, jag me, vore najz`
`06:31.13`	`kozz`	`kan man kompilera snabbare :)`
`06:31.31`	`lisardhjo`	`d� finns det inga anledningar till att inte k�ra gentoo`
`06:32.46`	`kozz`	`dumt att slita p� CPU:n :P`
`06:32.53`	`lisardhjo`	`din installation �r f�rdig om 27min`
`06:33.08`	`lisardhjo`	`eehh`
`06:33.15`	`lisardhjo`	`helst en dual 1.7 hadde jag sett..`
`06:33.22`	`lisardhjo`	`det hadde varit riktigt coolt`
`06:34.47`	`kozz`	`dual PPC970`
`06:34.59`	`lisardhjo`	`mmmm`
`06:35.02`	`lisardhjo`	`mums`
`06:35.35`	`lisardhjo`	`o gentoo`
`06:48.07`	`kozz`	`g�ntaooo`
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`06:51.13`	`kozz`	`ehh`
`06:51.13`	`kozz`	`switchen h�ngde sig`
`06:51.57`	`kozz`	`svarte�n`
`06:52.04`	`kozz`	`�rn kanske`
`06:52.58`	`BlackEJobb`	`Je suis un petit Escargot`
`06:53.59`	`lisardhjo`	`bl�`
`06:54.08`	`lisardhjo`	`det skulle jag aldrig �ta..`
`06:54.24`	`BlackEJobb`	`inte jag heller`
`06:54.31`	`lisardhjo`	`sniglar verkar inte s� gott`
`06:54.40`	`BlackEJobb`	`"Jag �r en liten snigel" skrev jag ju =)`
`06:54.49`	`lisardhjo`	`jass�`
`06:54.58`	`lisardhjo`	`trodde att du hadde �tit sniglar..`
`06:55.07`	`kozz`	`Tu est un petit lapin !`
`06:57.48`	`BlackEJobb`	`�ta sniglar... huuuh`
`06:59.38`	`kozz`	`du �r en liten kanin skrev jag ju`
`06:59.55`	`kozz`	`y�y�, hej d� f�gelf�n och kr�ldjur, nu ska jag g�`
`07:01.16`	`BlackEJobb`	`HEJ D� KOZZ`
`07:09.58`	`dholm`	`lisardhjo: hoppade du �ver jobbet idag? ;)`
`07:11.25`	`lisardhjo`	`n��`
`07:11.32`	`lisardhjo`	`�r h�r..`
`07:11.49`	`dholm`	`23:16 < lisardman> i morrn skiter jag i jobbet`
`07:11.49`	`dholm`	`23:16 < lisardman> orkar inte`
`07:11.55`	`lisardhjo`	`n��`
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`07:12.06`	`dholm`	`lj�g du? :(`
`07:12.20`	`lisardhjo`	`nje..`
`07:12.29`	`lisardhjo`	`ska till v�rdcentralen sen..`
`07:12.35`	`lisardhjo`	`m�ste f� klart en sak f�rst..`
`07:12.39`	`dholm`	`ok`
`07:12.48`	`lisardhjo`	`�r r�tt tr�tt p� att vara sjuk hela tiden..`
`07:12.56`	`dholm`	`f�rst�r det`
`07:13.22`	`lisardhjo`	`det har sl�tt lock f�r mitt ena �ra.. och mitt �ga �r spr�ng r�tt`
`07:13.26`	`lisardhjo`	`helt sjukt..`
`07:13.35`	`dholm`	`du kanske h�ller p� att d�? :(`
`07:13.50`	`lisardhjo`	`kanke`
`07:14.18`	`lisardhjo`	`kranke :P`
`07:14.32`	`lisardhjo`	`ich bin kranke in das kopf`
`07:16.25`	`lisardhjo`	`http://www.state.tx.us/category.jsp?language=eng&categoryId=8`
`07:18.39`	`dholm`	`kranke in die skavanke`
`07:19.17`	`lisardhjo`	`hehe..`
`07:20.06`	`lisardhjo`	`roligt o glo p� texas most wanted o alla andra brottslingar..`
`07:20.14`	`lisardhjo`	`satt jag o gjorde ig�r`
`07:23.52`	`dholm`	`k�p aldrig ATis produkter, det �r riktig crap :(`
`07:25.22`	`dholm`	`har b0rkat min laptop nu bara f�r deras j�vla kernelmodul oopsar`
`07:32.13`	`micken`	`om man skall k�pa grafikkort till peg s� har man inte s� mycket att v�lja p�`
`07:32.40`	`micken`	`funkar r300 kort i linux ?`
`07:33.39`	`micken`	`schyst med 1.7Ghz uppgradering f�resten`
`07:34.08`	`micken`	`inte f�r att det k�nns s� n�dv�ndigt`
`07:39.20`	`lisardhjo`	`dholm: mitt gfx kort i ena pegg har b�rjat o b0rka..`
`07:40.28`	`lisardhjo`	`joooooo`
`07:40.32`	`lisardhjo`	`den �r n�dv�ndig..`
`07:42.22`	`micken`	`vad ska man med 1.7Ghz till`
`07:44.15`	`dholm`	`javan kommer ju g� snabbare om inte annat :)`
`07:44.21`	`dholm`	`eclipse �r v�l gr�nsfall om man orkar k�ra nu`
`07:44.35`	`micken`	`eclipse �r bloat`
`07:44.44`	`dholm`	`njaeh, den �r r�tt bra`
`07:44.45`	`micken`	`vill man inte k�ra`
`07:45.15`	`dholm`	`den b�rjar ju f� en del vettiga komponenter nu, tex s� man kan f� upp sin kod i UML`
`07:45.40`	`dholm`	`nej, nu ska jag jobba lite ;)`
`07:45.56`	`micken`	`jag har provat massor av java ides och jag har alltid g�tt tillbaka till vi ..:)`
`07:46.25`	`dholm`	`jag �r mer intresserad av CDT iofs`
`07:46.35`	`micken`	`CDT ?`
`07:48.14`	`micken`	`aha -- nu vet jag`
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`08:02.04`	`micken`	`det blir bra om vi f�r en sun certad java`
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`09:46.44`	`lisardman`	`hmm`
`10:42.11`	`micken`	`eclipse gick ju r�tt fort`
`10:59.55`	`dholm`	`inte om du har en stor workspace :/`
`11:00.18`	`dholm`	`IBMs Java �r v�l certifierad?`
`11:02.10`	`dholm`	`problemet med den �r ju att den inte st�djer 1.5 :(`
`12:11.09`	`micken`	`bahh 1.5 klarar man sig utan :)`
`13:05.13`	`micken`	`alla s�ljer pc`
`13:05.26`	`micken`	`sun,ibm,hp,sgi,apple`
`13:05.34`	`micken`	`snart g�r v�rlden under`
`13:07.19`	`lisardman`	`YES!!!!`
`13:07.27`	`lisardman`	`nu har man �roninflammation oxo`
`13:07.32`	`lisardman`	`det �r B�ST`
`13:07.35`	`micken`	`grattis`
`13:07.54`	`lisardman`	`tack`
`13:15.43`	`GGS`	`micken, Inte GGS-Data, (s�ljer PowerPC) :-)`
`13:17.01`	`lisardman`	`GGS, du kr�nger v�l pc oxo`
`13:19.09`	`GGS`	`lisardman, Jovisst, men ocks� PowerPC :-)`
`13:20.04`	`micken`	`tycker fortfarande det �r skumt med i/o`
`13:20.31`	`lisardman`	`aha`
`13:20.34`	`micken`	`nu har jag g�mf�rt med bonnie p� en pc som har lika l�ngsam bus som peg2 har`
`13:20.48`	`micken`	`�nd� fick den ung 100x snabbare p� en del saker`
`13:21.22`	`micken`	`kan jag ha kassa kablar ?`
`13:21.27`	`GGS`	`micken, testa med hdparm s� ser du hur snabbt/l�ngsamt det g�r skriva/l�sa.`
`13:22.51`	`GGS`	`hdaparm -d -D /dev/hdax �r det v�l man skriver`
`13:23.04`	`GGS`	`hdparm`
`13:23.21`	`micken`	`GGS: kan du testa med bonnie p� en peg och kolla vad du f�r ?`
`13:24.13`	`micken`	`121K/sec f�r jag i seq outp, per chr`
`13:24.46`	`micken`	`borde ligga p� ung 30000`
`13:41.02`	`GGS`	`micken, jo kan g�ra det senare, m�ste g�ra klart lite annat f�rst.`
`13:42.49`	`ironfist`	`tjena gubnbs`
`14:00.09`	`ironfist`	`haha`
`14:00.12`	`ironfist`	`http://www.state.tx.us/category.jsp?language=eng&categoryId=8.5`
`14:00.36`	`ironfist`	`inte d�ligt att kunna ans�ka om licens f�r dolt vapen online`
`14:06.40`	`ironfist`	`jaha SE D�R JA`
`14:06.47`	`ironfist`	`Bill Gates �r ond.. det har jag alltid vetat!`
`14:06.48`	`ironfist`	`http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/gatesbill.htm`
`14:07.36`	`ironfist`	`Death Row`
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`14:24.24`	`*** topic/#pegasos.org is irc.pegasos.org \| <ironfist> jag gjorde ett cli-script - POLIS - som jag skulle k�ra om snuten b�rjade banka in d�rren \| Mupper v0.4 released \| http://skolwebben.tibro.se/~mikael/gentoo.squashfs gentoo image`
`14:26.09`	`lisardman`	`dholm`
`14:30.53`	`dholm`	`lisardman`
`14:32.46`	`ironfist`	`y0 dave`
`14:33.10`	`ironfist`	`dave: �r det 15" p� din laptop eller?`
`14:44.00`	`dholm`	`15" ws tror jag`
`14:49.08`	`*** join/#pegasos.org micken (n=micken@h25n1fls304o851.telia.com)`
`14:49.23`	`dholm`	`15.4" WXGA �r den`
`14:53.43`	`dholm`	`jag tror det ena f�retaget p� v�ningen under anst�llt en babe ;)`
`14:53.56`	`dholm`	`stog n�n och instruerade henne om hur larmet funkar ;D`
`15:04.21`	`*** join/#pegasos.org Merko (i=Merko@c83-248-71-192.bredband.comhem.se)`
`15:13.51`	`*** join/#pegasos.org TCD (n=anonymou@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com)`
`15:13.57`	`TCD`	`hello`
`15:24.54`	`GGS`	`hello`
`15:25.09`	`Frek`	`lisardman`
`15:28.12`	`GGS`	`Frek`
`15:38.56`	`TCD`	`gss: I found probem with partitioning`
`15:39.14`	`TCD`	`gss: under morphos`
`15:47.37`	`GGS`	`TCD, Ok problem partitioning ?`
`15:48.39`	`GGS`	`TCD, Maybe this can help a bit on the way ?, http://www.morphos-news.de/beta2help/qstart_en.html`
`15:49.46`	`Develin`	`Hi TCD, got your Peg now`
`15:49.49`	`Develin`	`?`
`15:59.39`	`TCD`	`yes`
`16:00.03`	`Develin`	`any problems ?`
`16:00.27`	`TCD`	`I have pegasos, and i'm fighting with morphos`
`16:00.58`	`Develin`	`TCD: What's the problem... Let me know and I try to help you`
`16:01.12`	`TCD`	`I installed linux first but morphos didn't recognise a partitions`
`16:01.46`	`Develin`	`The Linux-partition ?`
`16:01.50`	`TCD`	`yes`
`16:02.15`	`Develin`	`You're inside MorphOS now ?`
`16:02.32`	`Develin`	`What do SCSIConfig say when you start it`
`16:03.43`	`Develin`	`one important thing in MorphOS is that you use 80-wired cable`
`16:03.59`	`TCD`	`hmm Develin let me do this via guide from Gunne first . If I found any problems I let you knoe ok?`
`16:04.06`	`Develin`	`well, that's important from every OS though.`
`16:04.10`	`TCD`	`yes , all cables fine`
`16:04.12`	`Develin`	`sure`
`16:38.12`	`TCD`	`system installation in progress`
`16:49.10`	`Develin`	`TCD: good to hear =)`
`16:49.25`	`TCD`	`any more tutorials pls`
`16:49.37`	`TCD`	`system already installed`
`16:49.51`	`Develin`	`TCD: http://tbs-software.com/morgoth/projects.html`
`16:50.19`	`Develin`	`BootCreator can be nice if you would like to have dualboot so you don't need to type the boot image everytime`
`16:50.36`	`TCD`	`good idea`
`16:50.48`	`TCD`	`but i have no internet connection yet`
`16:51.14`	`Develin`	`TCD: Did you have an old Amiga connected to the net before btw. ?`
`16:51.24`	`Develin`	`And if so, what TCP/IP-stack did you use ?`
`16:51.36`	`TCD`	`Develin: I have radeon 9250 128mb but morph doesn't recognise it`
`16:51.51`	`Develin`	`TCD: AGP ?`
`16:52.00`	`TCD`	`yes`
`16:52.16`	`Develin`	`Do you se a butterfly while trying to start the system ?`
`16:52.22`	`TCD`	`I mean I cannot set any resolution higher than 800x600`
`16:52.27`	`TCD`	`yes`
`16:52.37`	`Develin`	`it musth have recognized it since you could install the system some how.`
`16:52.47`	`Develin`	`Ok, you need to add that manually`
`16:52.50`	`TCD`	`system i fine but I'd like to change resolution`
`16:53.00`	`TCD`	`hoe to do it pls`
`16:53.06`	`Develin`	`Get in System Settings.`
`16:53.14`	`Develin`	`Pick ModeEdit`
`16:53.26`	`TCD`	`ok`
`16:53.32`	`TCD`	`and what now?`
`16:53.44`	`Develin`	`It's good if you know your spec. to the monitor now...`
`16:54.00`	`TCD`	`hmm I have lcd panel`
`16:54.07`	`TCD`	`not on the list :-)`
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`16:54.30`	`Develin`	`TCD: ok, not much of a problem... mine was not there either =)`
`16:54.38`	`TCD`	`so ?`
`16:54.44`	`Develin`	`If you check the data on your monitor on the net..`
`16:54.50`	`TCD`	`I know resolution and refresh rate`
`16:55.10`	`TCD`	`1280x1024 and 55 hz`
`16:55.12`	`Develin`	`press "edit" on the monitor specification`
`16:55.14`	`TCD`	`1280x1024 and 75 hz`
`16:56.00`	`Develin`	`I still would have edited the modes so it perfectly fits the monitor =)`
`16:56.04`	`*** join/#pegasos.org micken__ (n=micken@h25n1fls304o851.telia.com)`
`16:56.23`	`micken__`	`micken: G�`
`16:57.36`	`Frek`	`GGS`
`16:57.55`	`Develin`	`TCD: http://www.onyxsoft.se/stefan/monitor.png`
`16:58.19`	`Develin`	`this is how I filled out my spec I got from the manual of my LCD-monitor.`
`16:58.55`	`Develin`	`When that's done (or you pick a generic monitor-type in the list) choose USE there`
`17:00.20`	`Develin`	`Then you'll be back in the ModeEdit-window again... press "new" and choose a resoultion from the list you want to use..`
`17:01.53`	`Develin`	`test the mode before you defenately saves it..`
`17:02.00`	`TCD`	`yes even if I have a resolution system is going back to 800x 600`
`17:02.32`	`Develin`	`Well, this adds resoultions to the system, but not activates them yet...`
`17:02.50`	`Develin`	`Have you added the resolution you want and know they work ?`
`17:03.04`	`lisardhjo`	`h0h0h0`
`17:03.15`	`TCD`	`ok it works thanks`
`17:03.25`	`TCD`	`so how to install internet`
`17:03.30`	`TCD`	`pls`
`17:03.40`	`TCD`	`my morph guru`
`17:03.54`	`Develin`	`TCD: Have you got Miami, MiamiDeluxe, AmiTCP or Genesis ?`
`17:04.02`	`GGS`	`Hi, im using Samsung_171_MP_Radeon, that one usually works with the most TFT screens.`
`17:04.56`	`TCD`	`no`
`17:05.01`	`GGS`	`You can just pick up any press apply, and test screen resolution through the test button, till you find one that you like :-)`
`17:05.02`	`Develin`	`TCD: There is not a built in TCP/IP-stack in 1.4x... will be in 1.5`
`17:05.15`	`TCD`	`ok`
`17:05.24`	`Develin`	`TCD: There is working solutions till then though =)`
`17:05.39`	`TCD`	`but where i can get others pls`
`17:06.02`	`Develin`	`Do you need DHCP or does it work with static IP ?`
`17:08.15`	`TCD`	`Develin: dhcp`
`17:08.39`	`Develin`	`TCD: ok, then it's MiamiDeluxe you need`
`17:08.45`	`Develin`	`just a second`
`17:09.41`	`TCD`	`ok`
`17:09.43`	`Develin`	`http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=miamidx10`
`17:09.54`	`Develin`	`This files should work.. get both`
`17:10.48`	`TCD`	`ok thanx`
`17:11.20`	`Develin`	`This program is shareware and will go offline after 30 minutes or so...`
`17:11.22`	`micken`	`33M/s med hdparm`
`17:11.32`	`micken`	`det m�ste vara n�t galet`
`17:11.38`	`Develin`	`And the pitty is that the author abandoned the Amiga years ago...`
`17:11.50`	`Develin`	`But there is sulution for this aswell =)`
`17:11.57`	`micken`	`eller s� har jag tokl�ngsamma diskar`
`17:13.01`	`TCD`	`Develin: is there nothing what works permamently?`
`17:13.44`	`Develin`	`TCD: There is a working native TCP/IP-stack in MorphOS 1.5 (I know, seen it in action)`
`17:14.05`	`Develin`	`But until then we have to use old 68k-software for it...`
`17:14.31`	`Develin`	`but don't fear it's working well anyway (i've been using it for years here so)`
`17:14.33`	`TCD`	`shame`
`17:17.28`	`GGS`	`micken testar med hdparm nu.`
`17:17.40`	`GGS`	`hdparm -t -T /dev/hda`
`17:18.02`	`Develin`	`Since we have a old DC (Digital Corruption) member here (Hi ironfist) we have supply of old cracks that isn't supported at all anymore.. =)`
`17:18.05`	`GGS`	`debian:/home/gunne# hdparm -t -T /dev/hda`
`17:18.05`	`GGS`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:18.10`	`GGS`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:18.40`	`micken`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:18.40`	`micken`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:19.25`	`micken`	`du ser`
`17:19.41`	`GGS`	`micken, verkar som du har lite l�ngsammare disk :-)`
`17:20.06`	`micken`	`ganska mycket l�nsammare`
`17:20.16`	`micken`	`http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/d180gxp/d180gxp.htm`
`17:20.56`	`GGS`	`micken, men det �r inte den snabbaste disken jag har i den maskinen �nd�.`
`17:21.59`	`GGS`	`skall testa en annan maskin.`
`17:23.57`	`GGS`	`hdparm fanns inte p� den`
`17:26.09`	`TCD`	`Hey guys whare I can find programs for morphos?`
`17:27.23`	`GGS`	`TCD, start look here http://www.morphos-news.de/software.php?lg=en`
`17:31.39`	`micken`	`den �r visst ATA/100`
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`17:35.32`	`ironfist`	`hi Dev! :)`
`17:36.16`	`TCD`	`GSS: Thanx Gunne`
`17:41.07`	`Merko`	`GGS: b�rjar bli lite orolig f�r disken i den nya peggen.. den har b�rjat surra ganska konstigt, l�ter en hel del ett tag helt utan anledning. Tyckte den var helt tyst i b�rjan, hoppas att det inte �r n�got fel p� den. :-/`
`17:41.30`	`Merko`	`B�rjar surra konstigt helt pl�tsligt, s� h�ller den p� n�n minut och s� blir det tyst igen.`
`17:44.04`	`Merko`	`Hmhm, undrar om det kan vara SFS-buffrarna som st�ller till konstigheter.`
`17:44.19`	`Merko`	`Verkar inte s�`
`17:53.01`	`micken`	`N�n som kan rekomendera en snabb disk ?`
`17:56.29`	`ironfist`	`WD`
`17:56.53`	`micken`	`vilken d� , d�`
`17:57.07`	`ironfist`	`vilken som helst med 8mb cache`
`17:57.13`	`ironfist`	`eller 16`
`17:57.17`	`ironfist`	`fast de �r SATA`
`17:58.33`	`micken`	`men pegen har v�l ata/100 ?`
`17:59.08`	`micken`	`hur snabbt �r sata i en peg ?`
`18:00.10`	`Merko`	`snabbt som sata:n? :)`
`18:01.43`	`*** part/#pegasos.org Merko (i=Merko@c83-248-71-192.bredband.comhem.se)`
`18:10.29`	`GGS`	`ok, merko hoppade ut :-)`
`18:10.55`	`GGS`	`micken, Seagate h�rddiskar fungerar bra.`
`18:13.27`	`TCD`	`GSS: I installed Ubuntu but I cannot boot it, pls help the system is installed on hda3`
`18:19.23`	`micken`	`from firmware:`
`18:19.47`	`micken`	`ls hd:2 boot/`
`18:19.59`	`micken`	`find out your kernelname`
`18:20.04`	`micken`	`then`
`18:20.26`	`micken`	`boot hd:2 kernel root=/dev/hda3`
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`18:20.37`	`kamelryttarn`	`wazaaaaa`
`18:20.49`	`micken`	`or something like that :)`
`18:20.56`	`kamelryttarn`	`yup :)`
`18:21.46`	`GGS`	`TCD, Did you follow the instuctions for ubunto that was supplied on the paper that was included ?`
`18:23.50`	`GGS`	`TCD, Its important for the last part, as you need to get mkvmnlinuz and make a vmlinuz. otherwise its not possible to boot the system.`
`18:24.44`	`TCD`	`yes I done it`
`18:25.05`	`TCD`	`so why yaboot trying to find the kernel?`
`18:25.41`	`GGS`	`TCD, Forget about yaboot by now.`
`18:26.24`	`ironfist`	`tjena kamelen`
`18:26.29`	`GGS`	`TCD, in the /boot you should have the vmlinuz kernel that you will have to boot the system from.`
`18:26.34`	`ironfist`	`up for some shootin?..`
`18:26.56`	`micken`	`n� n�n som har n�gra stats fr�n en sata disk i en peg ?`
`18:27.35`	`TCD`	`how to check it from firmware screen?`
`18:27.41`	`GGS`	`TCD, If you created a separate partition /boot its on that partition, if you did not create separate /boot partition its in /boot on your root-partition.`
`18:28.03`	`GGS`	`TCD, ls hd`
`18:28.14`	`GGS`	`displays the partions`
`18:28.27`	`GGS`	`ls hd:0`
`18:28.42`	`GGS`	`first partiotion and so on,...`
`18:28.45`	`TCD`	`ok i try`
`18:28.48`	`TCD`	`tnx`
`18:29.32`	`GGS`	`If your linux-partition is the third partition in the firmware, it is hd:3 from the firmware`
`18:29.47`	`GGS`	`and /dev/hda4 in Linux`
`18:30.12`	`GGS`	`as linux begins from 1 and firmware from 0`
`18:31.19`	`GGS`	`If you have the kernel in /boot on the 3rd partition and yhis is you linux partition, your boo0tstring will be.`
`18:31.43`	`TCD`	`ok`
`18:32.14`	`GGS`	`boot hd:3 boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-powerpc root=/dev/hda4`
`18:32.35`	`TCD`	`in my case it;s hd:2`
`18:32.44`	`TCD`	`i try now :-)`
`18:32.53`	`GGS`	`so change 3 to 2 and 4 to 3 then :-)`
`18:33.20`	`kamelryttarn`	`ironfist, GR l�ter som en bra id�`
`18:33.42`	`kamelryttarn`	`ska boota upp windoze bara`
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`18:37.32`	`TCD`	`GGS: It's alive. it's really alive tnx Gunne`
`18:40.45`	`GGS`	`TCD, great :-)`
`18:41.50`	`GGS`	`Merko, Det �r ett friskhetstecken att h�rddisken arbetar :-)`
`18:43.12`	`TCD`	`GSS: I know it's silly but I love it`
`18:43.25`	`Merko`	`GGS: nja.. tycker inte det l�ter som den arbetar, iofs.`
`18:43.28`	`TCD`	`GSS: configuration in progress`
`18:44.10`	`Merko`	`GGS: men jag ska kolla om det har n�n relation till n�gon form av diskaccess.`
`18:44.20`	`TCD`	`GSS: BTW why I cannot create a partition bigger than 2 gig on scsiconfi program?`
`18:45.09`	`Merko`	`TCD: what happens when you try?`
`18:45.21`	`micken`	`I have created 60GB partitions with scsiconfig`
`18:45.37`	`Merko`	`I only have 1 partition <2GB here.. :)`
`18:49.41`	`GGS`	`Merko, Ok. Kan inte svara p� vad det beror p�. Men ibland f�r ju diskar lite ljud ifr�n sig. Seagate anses v�l vara ganska s� tysta dock.`
`18:50.07`	`Merko`	`GGS: f�r unders�ka mera`
`18:50.25`	`GGS`	`Merko, Jepp.`
`18:50.25`	`Merko`	`ska l�ta den st� p� med linux ett tag och se om det l�ter d� ocks�`
`18:50.42`	`GGS`	`jo.`
`18:53.16`	`GGS`	`TCD, hmm.. Maybe your disk ends there ? Sory for the losey answer, but dont know, it should be no problem to create any size of partition with scsiconfig.`
`18:56.14`	`TCD`	`GGs: My disk I big, 160 gb od space so it's isn't space problem. From Linux side there is no problem`
`18:56.36`	`GGS`	`TCD, When formatting choose quick format, or if you prefer to wait choose format, or if you prefer to wait much longer choose format and verify.`
`18:56.57`	`Merko`	`there is absolutely no reason to use format and verify`
`18:57.01`	`Merko`	`never use it on hard disks`
`18:57.15`	`GGS`	`Merko, I tried it ones :-)`
`18:57.28`	`Merko`	`well.. it could be used if you suspect it's broken`
`18:57.43`	`Merko`	`it will do a quite thorough test :)`
`18:57.59`	`TCD`	`Merko: Depend how your hard disk is :-)`
`18:57.59`	`GGS`	`Merko, Yep, i noticed that.`
`19:00.07`	`Merko`	`TCD: what happens when you fill in a block number in sciconfig that makes a partition bigger than 2GB?`
`19:00.12`	`Merko`	`scsiconfig`
`19:02.40`	`TCD`	`Merko: It;s bacome 300meg partition`
`19:03.56`	`Merko`	`TCD: what field do you fill in? It's better to use the block field than the size field.`
`19:04.10`	`Merko`	`TCD: it's a quirky program.. should be replaced, I guess.`
`19:04.28`	`TCD`	`Merko: pk I will try it later`
`19:04.50`	`TCD`	`GGS: Gunne this machine is flying with Linux`
`19:05.20`	`Merko`	`GGS: heh, det �r autodefragen i SFS som l�t :)`
`19:05.38`	`Merko`	`den l�ter ju betydligt mer �n normal diskaccess om man s�ger s� :)`
`19:05.39`	`GGS`	`Merko, ok`
`19:06.36`	`TCD`	`GGS: Gunne what is the default root password in Ubuntu?`
`19:06.41`	`GGS`	`TCD, Nice to hear, yes I feel its good. And MorphOS is really the quickest operating system I ever used.`
`19:07.07`	`GGS`	`TCD, there is no root password in ubuntu`
`19:07.20`	`TCD`	`GGS: So consider myself as a converted`
`19:07.41`	`GGS`	`TCD, You should use sudo + your user name password.`
`19:08.25`	`GGS`	`TCD, Perhaps it is possible to create a root user in ubuntu, but its not default.`
`19:09.31`	`TCD`	`GGS: sudo decline it, where is the password :{`
`19:10.26`	`GGS`	`TCD, It should be the password you created for your username during the installation`
`19:10.41`	`GGS`	`sudo command`
`19:10.51`	`GGS`	`and you will be asked for password`
`19:16.36`	`*** join/#pegasos.org TCD (n=pawel@ACD772C2.ipt.aol.com)`
`19:16.51`	`TCD`	`hello from the system I really love, linux`
`19:17.00`	`ironfist`	`hehe`
`19:17.03`	`ironfist`	`good it works`
`19:17.08`	`lisardman`	`mmm`
`19:17.08`	`TCD`	`perfect`
`19:17.14`	`lisardman`	`tjo`
`19:17.17`	`ironfist`	`now install xchat`
`19:17.39`	`ironfist`	`having dinner now.. chili con carne with jolt`
`19:17.39`	`ironfist`	`:)`
`19:17.40`	`subway`	`ironfist: why you little!`
`19:17.50`	`ironfist`	`subbe: hoppa in`
`19:17.55`	`subway`	`ironfist: n�� ;)`
`19:18.07`	`ironfist`	`du fick mac'en s�ld s�g jag`
`19:18.09`	`ironfist`	`4.5 ?`
`19:18.33`	`subway`	`har ingen mac l�ngre.. nope, bytte mot en ibook 1Ghz, 512ram, airport, 60GB osv..`
`19:18.44`	`ironfist`	`� herre j�vlar`
`19:18.47`	`ironfist`	`helt ok ju`
`19:18.49`	`subway`	`tar ut den imorrn`
`19:18.51`	`subway`	`yepp..`
`19:19.00`	`subway`	`ligger p� posten och v�ntar`
`19:19.00`	`subway`	`mumsig helg :)`
`19:19.01`	`ironfist`	`f�rsta du l�gger in �r Ghost Reocn vettu`
`19:19.02`	`ironfist`	`:)`
`19:19.04`	`Merko`	`subway: �r inte en ibook en mac? :)`
`19:19.23`	`subway`	`Merko: jo, men jag har den inte f�rns imorgon siddu :)`
`19:19.30`	`lisardman`	`hmmm`
`19:19.34`	`lisardman`	`mums`
`19:19.35`	`subway`	`s� jag har inten mac _nu_`
`19:19.40`	`subway`	`lisardman: mmmmmupper!`
`19:19.45`	`lisardman`	`mmm`
`19:19.48`	`lisardman`	`:P`
`19:20.22`	`subway`	`ironfist: fixa ett nytt push`
`19:20.37`	`lisardman`	`ja`
`19:20.53`	`TCD`	`GGS: still playin' with root password`
`19:21.03`	`TCD`	`GGS: no succes`
`19:21.31`	`GGS`	`TCD, Now you need to come to next PUSH :-)`
`19:21.39`	`TCD`	`GGS: machine is fast , much faster than micro`
`19:21.53`	`subway`	`GGS: du ser, m�ste fixas ett vinterhack`
`19:22.11`	`TCD`	`GGS: is 3d works under pagasos and linux?`
`19:22.19`	`*** join/#pegasos.org micken (n=micken@h25n1fls304o851.telia.com)`
`19:22.22`	`GGS`	`TCD, Yeah, about the password, it should like I said above.`
`19:22.28`	`subway`	`TCD: you bet!`
`19:22.57`	`GGS`	`Lets say you created user TCD during the installation with password TCD.`
`19:23.26`	`GGS`	`Then you login as TCD with psw TCD`
`19:23.56`	`TCD`	`GGS: wrong password agrrrrr`
`19:24.21`	`GGS`	`If you need to run a command that needs root access, you should use sudo + command and verify with your password TCD`
`19:24.42`	`ironfist`	`subb: du kan leecha fr�n mig :)`
`19:24.48`	`GGS`	`Thats the way ubuntu works.`
`19:24.50`	`TCD`	`GGS: I try`
`19:25.25`	`TCD`	`GGS: U r genius, again`
`19:25.27`	`GGS`	`Example, sudo apt-get install xxxxxx`
`19:25.39`	`TCD`	`GGS: works now, same password as user`
`19:25.43`	`subway`	`ironfist: .xxx/ katalogen? :)`
`19:25.48`	`GGS`	`verify with your psw`
`19:25.59`	`GGS`	`yes`
`19:26.43`	`GGS`	`There is no root user, thats the difference from other linux distributions. Linux for humans being :-)`
`19:27.30`	`micken`	`och varf�r har inte gentoo gnome 2.12 ?`
`19:28.13`	`micken`	`there is a root user , but you have to set a password`
`19:30.59`	`ironfist`	`hehe`
`19:31.31`	`micken`	`try open a root termninal from system tools in gnome`
`19:31.37`	`micken`	`then type passwd`
`19:32.17`	`TCD`	`GGS: Pegasos glxgears 344 frames/sec, AmigaOne 100 f/sec`
`19:32.47`	`TCD`	`GGS: I wonder how Quake2 works on it :-)`
`19:33.44`	`TCD`	`GGS: This's DMA power`
`19:41.52`	`GGS`	`micken, you do not create this password during the installation.`
`19:42.10`	`GGS`	`micken, or the root user.`
`19:42.42`	`GGS`	`TCD, quake2 and 3 works good.`
`19:42.54`	`GGS`	`And foobillard.`
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`19:48.06`	`kozz`	`TCD: what gfx card?`
`19:48.51`	`dadde`	`Jag lyckas inte via GUI:n �ndra s� jag kan editera mina filer p� min hda4? Det st�r att jag inte har premission... Hur lyckas jag vara root och �ndra detta?`
`19:49.09`	`kozz`	`e det vfat?`
`19:49.16`	`TCD`	`kozz: hello readeon 9250 128mb agp`
`19:49.24`	`kozz`	`TCD: hi hi :)`
`19:49.40`	`kozz`	`TCD: ok, seems slow with 344 fps/s, using DRI?`
`19:49.54`	`dadde`	`kozz, nej?`
`19:50.16`	`dadde`	`ext2?`
`19:50.17`	`TCD`	`kozz: dunno, just installed system`
`19:51.05`	`TCD`	`kozz: i'm testing it`
`19:51.14`	`kozz`	`dadde: okej, jag vet inte vad du har :) men har du ext2/3 eller annat unix filsystem kan du �ndra r�ttighet med chown, �r det vfat (fat32) s� f�r man ange vem som ska ha r�ttiget n�r man monterar den`
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`19:51.37`	`kozz`	`TCD: try adding`
`19:51.38`	`kozz`	`Option "BusType" "PCI"`
`19:51.50`	`kozz`	`in your Device secion in /etc/X11/xorg.conf`
`19:52.36`	`dadde`	`kozz tackar`
`19:53.17`	`Develin`	`Fick han ig�ng MorphOS och n�tverket eller ?`
`19:53.34`	`kozz`	`han k�r Linux :P`
`19:53.39`	`Develin`	`nu ja`
`19:53.42`	`Develin`	`=)`
`19:55.14`	`TCD`	`Section "Device"`
`19:55.14`	`TCD`	`Identifier"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280)"`
`19:55.14`	`TCD`	`Driver"ati"`
`19:55.14`	`TCD`	`BusID"PCI:1:8:0"`
`19:55.14`	`TCD`	`Option"UseFBDev""true"`
`19:55.15`	`TCD`	`EndSection`
`19:55.29`	`TCD`	`kozz: take a look`
`19:55.41`	`TCD`	`Develin: hello`
`19:55.50`	`kozz`	`TCD: ok, try`
`19:55.55`	`kozz`	`change Driver to radeon`
`19:55.59`	`Develin`	`TCD: hi there... did you get MiamiDX up and running ?`
`19:56.01`	`kozz`	`remove USEFBDev`
`19:56.08`	`kozz`	`and add Option "BusType" "PCI"`
`19:56.21`	`TCD`	`Develin: not yet, I'm playing with Ubuntu`
`19:57.18`	`Develin`	`TCD: ahh ok =)`
`19:57.19`	`kozz`	`TCD: http://www.kozz.org/files/xorg.conf, my configuration`
`19:59.18`	`dadde`	`kozz, jag f�rst�r inte riktigt hur de menar att jag skall uttrycka mig f�r att det ska bli r�tt? 'chown /mnt/hda4/ --h eller vad skall jag skriva?`
`20:00.15`	`kozz`	`chown user:group <filnamn>`
`20:00.39`	`dadde`	`ohh`
`20:00.42`	`dadde`	`danke`
`20:00.45`	`kozz`	`s� om t.ex. jag ska �ga en fil vid namn foo.bar s� skulle jag k�ra 'chown kozz:kozz foo.bar'`
`20:00.48`	`kozz`	`-R f�r rekusivt`
`20:00.56`	`kozz`	`s� f�r en katalog`
`20:01.04`	`kozz`	`chown kozz:kozz katalog -R`
`20:01.24`	`dadde`	`nu f�rstod jag inte riktigt`
`20:01.50`	`kozz`	`utan -R kan man bara �ndra r�ttighet p� en fil eller en katalog`
`20:02.08`	`kozz`	`med -R s� g�r den p� djupet i en katalog och �ndrar alla filer d�r i`
`20:02.16`	`dadde`	`aha`
`20:02.17`	`dadde`	`okej`
`20:02.28`	`GGS`	`Develin, MorphOS �ter Linux :-)`
`20:03.29`	`Develin`	`GGS: precis =)`
`20:03.58`	`dadde`	`invalid group s�ger den bara :/`
`20:04.34`	`kozz`	`vad har du f�r grupp d�?`
`20:04.41`	`dadde`	`vet inte?`
`20:04.42`	`dadde`	`:D`
`20:05.09`	`dadde`	`Hur tar jag reda p� det?`
`20:05.20`	`kozz`	`id`
`20:05.27`	`kozz`	`gid=bla bla bla`
`20:05.31`	`kozz`	`st�r det`
`20:06.22`	`dadde`	`okej`
`20:06.37`	`dadde`	`d�r st�r det gid=0(root)`
`20:06.51`	`dadde`	`bland annat`
`20:07.10`	`kozz`	`aha, du har v�l k�rt su d�`
`20:07.19`	`kozz`	`om du k�r ig�ng en ny terminal och skriver det d�`
`20:07.21`	`dadde`	`jo`
`20:07.31`	`dadde`	`v�nta lite s� �ndrar jag det`
`20:08.01`	`dadde`	`gid=100(users)`
`20:09.19`	`dadde`	`vad ska jag d� skriva efter chown?`
`20:10.01`	`kozz`	`chown <user>:<group>`
`20:10.11`	`kozz`	`s� gruppen �r ju users`
`20:10.21`	`dadde`	`s� det blir chown dadde:100?`
`20:10.23`	`kozz`	`iof r�cker det att ange anv�ndare`
`20:10.46`	`kozz`	`ja, eller dadde:users blir precis samma sak men kanske e snyggare :)`
`20:11.03`	`dadde`	`Ahh`
`20:11.05`	`dadde`	`Tackar :D`
`20:11.13`	`dadde`	`Du �r alltid till hj�lp :D`
`20:12.07`	`kozz`	`kul att man kan vara till hj�lp`
`20:12.12`	`kozz`	`fungerar det nu d�?`
`20:12.35`	`dadde`	`kan man k�ra det p� en hel partition p� en g�ng?`
`20:12.37`	`dadde`	`:d`
`20:12.46`	`kozz`	`jopp`
`20:12.48`	`kozz`	`-R bara`
`20:13.05`	`dadde`	`Njaa jag lyckas inte riktigt f� det att funka`
`20:13.31`	`kozz`	`/mnt/hda4 heter den?`
`20:13.35`	`kozz`	`d� k�r du:`
`20:13.43`	`kozz`	`chown dadde:users /mnt/hda4 -R`
`20:13.49`	`kozz`	`som root anv�ndare`
`20:14.04`	`dadde`	`testar igen`
`20:14.57`	`dadde`	`den s�ger att den inte kan accesa /mnt/hda4 :/`
`20:15.14`	`dadde`	`kanske m�ste mounta den d�r f�rst?`
`20:15.35`	`kozz`	`kan vara en f�rdel`
`20:17.01`	`dadde`	`WOHO!!`
`20:17.04`	`dadde`	`Tack!!`
`20:17.11`	`dadde`	`Nu funkar det! :D :D :D`
`20:17.24`	`kozz`	`g�tt`
`20:17.48`	`kozz`	`bara b�rja w�rsha nu d�`
`20:17.57`	`dadde`	`Jepp :D`
`20:18.00`	`dadde`	`Hehe :D`
`20:18.30`	`dadde`	`Har tankat �ver de 160 gig jag hade p� min andra disk till denna nu :D`
`20:19.29`	`kozz`	`ohh va mycket, har bara 120.. :(`
`20:20.57`	`dadde`	`Har dubbla 200 i min p�gg :D`
`20:21.06`	`dadde`	`s� n�jd med den`
`20:22.08`	`kozz`	`kan jag t�nkta mig`
`20:22.20`	`kozz`	`du e nog v�rre �n Dave och Chris tillsammans ;)`
`20:22.38`	`dadde`	`Hehe tror du det? :D`
`20:22.41`	`kozz`	`eller vad s�ger du lisardman?`
`20:23.10`	`dadde`	`Han verkar sova :D`
`20:24.28`	`kozz`	`T_T`
`20:25.08`	`dadde`	`Ser fram emot n�sta PUSH`
`20:25.50`	`kozz`	`det ska bli skoj`
`20:25.53`	`ironfist`	`ingen sl�r dave p� p�rr`
`20:25.59`	`kozz`	`f�r vi se din v�rsting maskin`
`20:26.25`	`dadde`	`Haha jass� han har s�nt han :D`
`20:26.36`	`dadde`	`Jod� d� tar jag med min p�rla`
`20:26.43`	`dadde`	`F�rmodligen �r den ombyggd igen d�`
`20:28.24`	`kozz`	`hoppas det fungerar denna g�ng d�, s� du inte br�nner ett kort till ;)`
`20:28.42`	`kozz`	`men roligt med udda l�dor, blir personligt d�`
`20:29.06`	`ironfist`	`snart roadtrip d�`
`20:29.21`	`kozz`	`har ni r�d nu?`
`20:29.37`	`ironfist`	`Genesi betalar`
`20:29.46`	`ironfist`	`:)`
`20:30.12`	`kozz`	`den ja`
`20:30.12`	`kozz`	`:)`
`20:30.18`	`kozz`	`t�nkte p� en annan...`
`20:30.27`	`ironfist`	`heheheh`
`20:31.15`	`dadde`	`Jo det k�nns som datorn �r pr�glad d�.`
`20:31.21`	`dadde`	`Var ska du iron?`
`20:33.12`	`ironfist`	`jag och lisardman ska till ett OpenSolaris-m�te i sthlm och representera genesi`
`20:33.20`	`ironfist`	`"And all Pegasos users!" som han uttryckte det`
`20:33.40`	`ironfist`	`"Do you best! You two are representing Genesi and all Pegasos users! :-) " :)`
`20:33.58`	`dadde`	`Hehe tufft! :D`
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`20:34.24`	`dadde`	`Lycka till m�ste jag ju s�ga`
`20:34.55`	`ironfist`	`ska bli nice`
`20:35.03`	`ironfist`	`vi ska till Sun Microsystems i Kista`
`20:35.07`	`ironfist`	`l�r va nice`
`20:35.37`	`dadde`	`Ahhhh avensjuk`
`20:36.33`	`ironfist`	`heh`
`20:36.38`	`dadde`	`n�pp dax att sova`
`20:36.42`	`ironfist`	`sov gott`
`20:36.52`	`dadde`	`m�ste upp tidigt f�r att g� till skolan`
`20:37.33`	`dadde`	`detsamma`
`20:37.38`	`dadde`	`Herr�`
`20:37.42`	`ironfist`	`cs`
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