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`04:10.23`	`lisardman`	`hmm en password reminder fr�n morphos-tean`
`04:10.24`	`lisardman`	`m`
`04:10.30`	`lisardman`	`kan det vara n�got p� G tro`
`07:07.24`	`lisardalp`	`godmorgon alla`
`07:10.03`	`dholm`	`jodelahoho`
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`08:39.55`	`walle`	`morrn`
`08:40.30`	`dholm`	`tjena`
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`11:11.33`	`Frek`	`damn http://www.deviantart.com/view/17908194/`
`11:14.36`	`walle_`	`imponerande att rita en s�dan bild i mspaint :)`
`12:17.11`	`lisardalp`	`hmmm m�ste l�ra mig o haxxa perl o bash skript`
`12:17.40`	`walle`	`det �r bra att kunna ibland.`
`12:19.51`	`lisardalp`	`mjo`
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`14:20.53`	`ironfist`	`bah`
`14:21.25`	`walle`	`tjenare`
`14:22.02`	`ironfist`	`personalm�te idag .. imorrn blir ett antal metallare varslade .. bah.. 15 st metall/sif .. borde v�l ligga p� n�nstans kring 12-13 metallare d� som f�r g�`
`14:22.19`	`ironfist`	`jag ryker s�klart`
`14:23.08`	`walle`	`trist`
`14:23.45`	`walle`	`vart �r det du jobbar?`
`14:23.54`	`ironfist`	`Provexa .. vi som brann ner`
`14:24.16`	`walle`	`i fr�lunda?`
`14:24.28`	`ironfist`	`nepp, Gamlestan`
`14:24.44`	`walle`	`ok.`
`14:28.35`	`walle`	`humm,.. underlig detalj i ambients sytem monitor "Computer turned on: yes"`
`14:35.50`	`ironfist`	`jo, den �r lite skoj den`
`14:35.52`	`ironfist`	`ny nyhet`
`15:23.39`	`kozz`	`nu har man "n�stan" 1GB RAM i peggen`
`15:23.46`	`kozz`	`intressant � se hur det fungerar`
`15:23.49`	`walle`	`:o`
`15:24.10`	`walle`	`jag uppt�ckte just att nfs var ohyggligt l�ngssamt p� min dator :/`
`15:24.25`	`kozz`	`jass�, varf�r?`
`15:25.12`	`walle`	`vet itne`
`15:25.16`	`kozz`	`jag tycker att det �r ohyggligt snabbt ;)`
`15:25.30`	`kozz`	`i linux iof`
`15:25.40`	`walle`	`jojo,... men in morphos`
`15:25.55`	`walle`	`iofs.`
`15:26.05`	`walle`	`kan vara som s� att det �r dopus4 som �r l�ngsamt.`
`15:26.21`	`kozz`	`vad kommer du upp i f�r hastihet d�?`
`15:26.28`	`walle`	`uhm,.. ~100kb/s`
`15:26.35`	`kozz`	`oki...`
`15:26.55`	`kozz`	`l�ter inte s� hett`
`15:27.08`	`walle`	`men jag tror att det �r dopus som det �r fel p�.`
`15:27.23`	`kozz`	`om du kopierar i shell d�?`
`15:27.31`	`walle`	`h�ller p� att testa det nu.`
`15:28.15`	`walle`	`lite b�ttre, men fortfarande inte bra,... ~700kb/s`
`15:28.37`	`walle`	`ftp gick i ~3MB/s`
`15:28.38`	`kozz`	`ordentlig skillnad iof`
`15:28.43`	`walle`	`japp,.`
`15:28.49`	`kozz`	`cp eller copy?`
`15:28.55`	`walle`	`cp`
`15:28.58`	`kozz`	`vet inte om cp �r s� effektiv`
`15:29.05`	`walle`	`t�nkte inte p� det ;)`
`15:29.23`	`walle`	`�r s� van vid unix kommadon.`
`15:29.32`	`kozz`	`jag har ingen som helst aning, men eftersom cp �r lite annorlunda s� kan det bli skillnad`
`15:29.42`	`kozz`	`jo, det blir ju s�`
`15:29.59`	`walle`	`n�, det d�r blev �nnu v�rre.`
`15:30.06`	`kozz`	`hehe`
`15:30.07`	`walle`	`skumt`
`15:30.21`	`walle`	`~500kB/s`
`15:30.34`	`kozz`	`det va konstigt tycker jag`
`15:30.43`	`walle`	`mm,.. mycket underligt`
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`15:31.02`	`kozz`	`kanske kan prova vad jag kommer i i sedan`
`15:31.15`	`kozz`	`ska bara kompilera klart highmem support`
`15:31.25`	`kozz`	`tr�kigt att bara kunna anv�nda 75% av minnet ;)`
`15:31.30`	`walle`	`;)`
`15:31.48`	`kozz`	`develina !`
`15:32.04`	`walle`	`jag funderar p� att k�pa 1GB minne extra till min windows server och k�ra wv ware eller dyl. ;)`
`15:32.16`	`Develin`	`hojt kozz`
`15:33.12`	`kozz`	`walle: kan aldrig har f�r mycket minne :)`
`15:33.29`	`walle`	`n�...`
`15:34.07`	`walle`	`jag har 512MB i min windows server nu, skall byta hela datorn snart mot en med 1GB och funderar p� att k�pa 1GB extra ;)`
`15:34.23`	`walle`	`2GB, det borde man klara sig p�.`
`15:34.41`	`kozz`	`:P`
`15:34.50`	`kozz`	`ja, 2GB l�r man klara sig p� ett tag`
`15:35.02`	`walle`	`nu blev han f�rn�rmad av allt windowssnack ;)`
`15:35.12`	`walle`	`jo, jag tycker det.`
`15:35.15`	`kozz`	`kan vaknar direkt d�`
`15:35.22`	`dholm`	`fel kanal att f�ra den diskussionen p� kanske`
`15:35.37`	`walle`	`njse, vi pratade ju minne.`
`15:35.38`	`dholm`	`jag har ett larm som triggas p� vissa nyckelord`
`15:35.54`	`dholm`	`installera linux p� den`
`15:36.01`	`kozz`	`blinkade r�da lampor i hela huset :)`
`15:36.04`	`walle`	`n�, gillar inte linux.`
`15:36.08`	`kozz`	`walle: du skulle se..`
`15:36.20`	`walle`	`hehe, jag kan t�nka mig det ;)`
`15:37.00`	`walle`	`linux brukar faktiskt f� en chans en g�ng om �ret.`
`15:37.11`	`dholm`	`s� k�r SkyOS, Syllable, Zeta eller n�t annat OS som utvecklas av n�gra som vill f�rst�ra datormarknaden`
`15:37.24`	`walle`	`hittills har jag aldrig haft det installerat s�rskilt l�nge.`
`15:37.24`	`kozz`	`inte?`
`15:38.08`	`kozz`	`vad k�r du om du e van vid unix-kommandon d�?`
`15:38.17`	`walle`	`bsd.`
`15:38.49`	`kozz`	`okej, aldrig direkt anv�nt det`
`15:39.05`	`walle`	`jag gillar inte riktigt linux decentraliserade utveckling.`
`15:39.22`	`walle`	`det ger upphov till fler distributioner �n man kan r�kna till d�r alla fungerar p� olika s�tt.`
`15:39.37`	`kozz`	`"frihet" :)`
`15:39.47`	`walle`	`men det driver ju utvecklingen framm�t... s� p� s� s�tt �r det bra.`
`15:40.01`	`dholm`	`men du f�redrar ett OS d�r du inte ens har insikt i hur det utvecklas och som dessutom inte f�ljer en enda standard?`
`15:40.41`	`walle`	`jag gillar inte riktigt denna diskussionen...`
`15:40.56`	`walle`	`jag har inget emot folk som k�r linux.`
`15:41.06`	`walle`	`linux �r bra. men jag tycker inte om det.`
`15:41.24`	`kozz`	`ja, det e tur att man f�r g�ra som man vill`
`15:41.30`	`walle`	`japp`
`15:42.15`	`kozz`	`brb`
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`15:45.22`	`ironfist`	`WINDOWS WINDOWS WINDOWS!`
`15:45.28`	`walle`	`hehe`
`15:46.26`	`ironfist`	`[17:40] <dholm> men du f�redrar ett OS d�r du inte ens har insikt i hur det utvecklas och som dessutom inte f�ljer en enda standard? <- M�pper?`
`15:49.53`	`ironfist`	`hehe.. nu kom v�ra ikeam�bler vi k�pte ig�r`
`15:50.24`	`ironfist`	`395 kr f�r hemleverans. SE D�R JA .. men ett sl�p kostar ungef�r lika mkt s� 300-400 kr .. och s� m�ste man fixa bil med drag ..`
`15:51.06`	`ironfist`	`sen tog jag "Extra b�rhj�lp" f�r 195 eftersom jag visste att jag och hea aldrig klarar av de j�kla paketen .. sen kommer killen "du beh�ver inte lyfta en pryl"`
`15:51.17`	`ironfist`	`haha 60kg-paket .. lade han p� ryggen och gick uppf�r trapporna`
`15:51.28`	`ironfist`	`men s� var han stor som ett hus ox�`
`15:51.45`	`walle`	`:)`
`15:52.13`	`Develin`	`�r det han de byggt spelet Postal 2 p� tro ? =)`
`15:52.36`	`ironfist`	`s�kerligen , haha`
`15:53.12`	`ironfist`	`s� nu har min servergarderob kommit iaf ..`
`15:53.24`	`ironfist`	`236 cm h�g, 100 cm bred, 60 djup`
`15:54.02`	`ironfist`	`ska nog kunna bygga om den till n�t fint. och 2 st 120 mm fl�ktar i toppen, kommer g�ra susen`
`16:05.07`	`kozz`	`trevligt, verkar fungera bra med 1GB`
`16:05.44`	`Frek`	`pomp pom pom [pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom schalalala schubiduuuba oooooooooohhhh schalallalalal nanana owowowowo]`
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`16:27.00`	`lisardman`	`tjo`
`16:27.06`	`lisardman`	`mothafuckas`
`16:27.08`	`lisardman`	`ironfist`
`16:36.53`	`Develin`	`tjo pimp daddy!`
`16:44.40`	`lisardman`	`Sj v�grar att boka biljetterna`
`16:47.15`	`dholm`	`brorsans polare rullade precis in i en jagular`
`16:47.29`	`lisardman`	`nice`
`16:47.46`	`dholm`	`kanske inte nyaste modellen direkt, men en jagular �r �nd� alltid en jagular oavsett`
`16:47.59`	`lisardman`	`japp.. de �r feta..`
`16:52.18`	`ironfist`	`yo lisard`
`16:52.45`	`lisardman`	`ironfista`
`17:43.39`	`dholm`	`verkar ligga en ny poll p� pegasos.org nu??`
`17:44.09`	`lisardman`	`jag har r�stat`
`18:09.55`	`GGS`	`Heh, vad �r en jagular nu d� ? :-)`
`18:10.16`	`lisardman`	`har du aldrig spelat GTA`
`18:10.24`	`lisardman`	`jagularen`
`18:10.27`	`GGS`	`nej`
`18:10.38`	`lisardman`	`vad tror du en Jagular �r d�?`
`18:10.41`	`GGS`	`okidok..`
`18:10.56`	`GGS`	`Vet inte...`
`18:11.30`	`GGS`	`Jaguarer finns ju d�remot i djungeln har jag h�rt`
`18:11.58`	`GGS`	`Men det �r v�l inte samma ?`
`18:11.58`	`lisardman`	`det var nog en Jaguar..`
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`18:14.09`	`lisardman`	`Jagular=Jaguar`
`18:14.23`	`GGS`	`ok`
`18:14.44`	`GGS`	`De �r snabba`
`18:14.54`	`lisardman`	`beror v�l p�`
`18:15.15`	`GGS`	`Var det inte fantomen som hade s�dana`
`18:15.21`	`lisardman`	`XJ modellerna �r juh r�tt stora`
`18:15.24`	`lisardman`	`m�jligt..`
`18:15.27`	`dholm`	`http://www.jaguarklubben.com/`
`18:15.41`	`dholm`	`fantomen p� operan?`
`18:16.05`	`GGS`	`jepp`
`18:16.29`	`lisardman`	`de �r r�tt billiga nu oxo`
`18:16.40`	`lisardman`	`en 80-tals jagga kan man f� billigt..`
`18:16.52`	`lisardman`	`de ser juh lika dana ut som om de var p� 90-talet`
`18:18.30`	`lisardman`	`http://www.blocket.se/view/5147716.htm?caller=sbl_s&l=0&c=1&city=0`
`18:20.50`	`GGS`	`http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761554717/jaguars.html`
`18:22.54`	`GGS`	`Vore r�tt fr�ckt att ha en s�dan :-)`
`18:23.20`	`lisardman`	`�h�`
`18:23.27`	`lisardman`	`monster garage p� kanal5`
`18:24.39`	`dholm`	`lisardman: 96:a? full eller?`
`18:25.45`	`lisardman`	`dholm, va fan.. det �r en LADA`
`18:26.49`	`dholm`	`Low Altitude Demolition Aircraft`
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`18:29.28`	`Leo42`	`hi`
`18:29.36`	`dholm`	`hello`
`18:29.52`	`Leo42`	`I need some help on peg/linux`
`18:30.11`	`dholm`	`ok`
`18:30.42`	`Leo42`	`I'm am unable to mount fd0`
`18:30.55`	`Leo42`	`got the error message: "can't open /def/fd0: not such device or address"`
`18:30.55`	`dholm`	`why not?`
`18:31.02`	`dholm`	`try: modprobe floppy`
`18:31.24`	`Leo42`	`can't locate module floppy`
`18:31.26`	`dholm`	`and try /dev/fd0, not /def ;)`
`18:31.40`	`Leo42`	`i did`
`18:31.52`	`dholm`	`are you using udev or devfs?`
`18:32.09`	`Leo42`	`no idea`
`18:32.15`	`Leo42`	`how could i know ?`
`18:32.30`	`dholm`	`did you enable devfs support at boot in the kernel?`
`18:32.53`	`Leo42`	`read me above :)`
`18:33.28`	`dholm`	`do you have /etc/udev (a directory)?`
`18:33.46`	`Leo42`	`no`
`18:33.53`	`Leo42`	`oops`
`18:34.12`	`dholm`	`which distribution are you using?`
`18:34.19`	`Leo42`	`no, don't have it`
`18:34.20`	`Leo42`	`debian`
`18:34.35`	`dholm`	`you should talk to GGS then, I think he's the only one in here using Debian.. the rest of us are running Gentoo`
`18:35.12`	`Leo42`	`are there an differences ?`
`18:35.44`	`dholm`	`Gentoo is generally faster and supports more software, a bit more difficult to install though`
`18:36.03`	`Leo42`	`I mean: floppy setup isn't different, is it ?`
`18:36.48`	`dholm`	`on Gentoo you would've compiled your own kernel, so you would know whether you are using udev or devfs`
`18:37.13`	`dholm`	`try asking in #PegasosPPC, lots of Debian fanboys hang there`
`18:37.24`	`Leo42`	`ok`
`18:41.29`	`Develin`	`dholm: �r det SFS-st�d med som standard i k�rnan som �r i 2005.0 (Gentoo) ?`
`18:41.49`	`dholm`	`yep`
`18:42.03`	`dholm`	`om du k�r pegasos-sources`
`18:42.17`	`Develin`	`Jag f�rs�kte starta maskinen med universal-CDn men det vart problem.`
`18:42.33`	`Develin`	`Men det i allm�nhet (inte SFS)`
`18:42.40`	`dholm`	`jas�, vad var problemet?`
`18:43.01`	`Develin`	`Det klagar p� n�n adress p� gfx-kortet om jag inte minns fel..`
`18:43.18`	`dholm`	`vad �r det f�r grafikkort?`
`18:43.23`	`Develin`	`Radeon7000`
`18:43.39`	`dholm`	`hmm, kan du fixa lite mer output n�gon dag s� blir jag glad :)`
`18:44.01`	`Develin`	`Ska starta laptopen o prova installera s� kan jag kommentera i realtid =)`
`18:44.12`	`dholm`	`g�tt :D`
`18:44.12`	`GGS`	`Leo42, Hi, one thing here that possible might be to little help. If you not are using an ordinary PC-floppy cable (with 6 wires twisted for floppy 0), it might that the floppy drive will become floppy 1, eg /dev/fd1`
`18:44.18`	`dholm`	`missa inte nya pollen p� pegasos.org :)`
`18:45.58`	`Develin`	`dholm: hehe =)`
`18:49.58`	`Leo42`	`GGS: ok, let's see...`
`18:50.17`	`Leo42`	`same error with fd1...`
`18:50.25`	`dholm`	`Leo42: don't forget to vote over at pegasos.org :D`
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`18:51.29`	`Leo42`	`dholm: If I can may this damn fp drive work I will :)`
`18:51.59`	`dholm`	`vad g�r du elin?`
`18:52.58`	`Develin`	`dholm: Startar om =) ska testa gentoo nu igen =)`
`18:53.37`	`Develin`	`faan, nu kommer jag ju inte ih�g vilken partition som jag har ETX3-delen p�...`
`18:53.53`	`Develin`	`G�r det att l�sa �nd� tro ?`
`18:54.05`	`dholm`	`bara att k�ra parted p� /dev/hda och kolla ju`
`18:54.10`	`Develin`	`ok`
`18:54.44`	`dholm`	`chatzilla, elajt ;)`
`18:55.00`	`Develin`	`Hur ska jag nu starta det igen ?... boot cd boot/pegasos r�cker inte v�l ? =)`
`18:55.17`	`Develin`	`dholm: Gahh, jag sitter under Windows nu, orkar inte installera massa skit =)`
`18:58.04`	`Develin`	`dholm: Kollar p� gentoo.org nu... ska f�lja installationsbeskrivningen ordentligt denna g�ngen =)`
`18:59.02`	`Develin`	`�r boot/menu att f�redra eller ska jag skriva hela raddan manuellt ?`
`18:59.45`	`dholm`	`funkar boot/menu f�r dig s� k�r p� den`
`19:00.09`	`Develin`	`menyn startade iaf.`
`19:00.19`	`GGS`	`Leo42, Ok, I have no floppy drive in any pegasos any longer, anyway dmesg should probablys tell you which devices found in your system.`
`19:00.28`	`Develin`	`without framebuffer betyder inget x11 eller ?`
`19:00.32`	`dholm`	`Develin: so far, so good ;)`
`19:00.37`	`dholm`	`betyder att du inte ser n�got alls f�rmodligen ;)`
`19:00.57`	`Develin`	`ok�jj =)`
`19:01.05`	`dholm`	`fr�ga mig inte varf�r det alternativet finns`
`19:01.19`	`Develin`	`invalid ROM signature should be.... n�nting stod det`
`19:01.33`	`dholm`	`vae? slutade den sen?`
`19:01.43`	`Develin`	`En massa Squashfs errors sedan`
`19:01.58`	`dholm`	`urk.. testa att boota manuellt d�`
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`19:02.14`	`Develin`	`error zlib_fs osv.`
`19:02.33`	`dholm`	`boot cd /boot/pegasos root=/dev/ram0 looptype=squashfs init=/linuxrc cdroot video=radeonfb:800x600`
`19:03.02`	`ironfist`	`vi g�r god mat nu`
`19:03.08`	`ironfist`	`sent och bra s� blir vi feta`
`19:03.15`	`dholm`	`g�tt`
`19:03.19`	`ironfist`	`jepp`
`19:03.40`	`ironfist`	`pommes, k�tt och lite steka gr�nsaker (grillspettsgr�nsaker - champs, paprika etc)`
`19:03.43`	`Develin`	`ironfist: beh�ver du, du �r allt lite tanig av dig ;-)`
`19:03.52`	`ironfist`	`haha`
`19:03.59`	`ironfist`	`ja s�tebr�dsdagarna �r ju �ver nu`
`19:04.03`	`ironfist`	`l�r f� kicken imorrn`
`19:04.18`	`ironfist`	`13000 f�re skatt blir man inte fet p�`
`19:04.39`	`Leo42`	`GGS: dmesg says "ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide`
`19:04.40`	`Leo42`	`"`
`19:04.54`	`lisardman`	`ironfist, nepp inte s� kul..`
`19:05.06`	`ironfist`	`80% p� ingenting blir det`
`19:05.20`	`GGS`	`Leo42, Ok, no device fd0 or fd1 or something such ?`
`19:06.02`	`lisardman`	`ironfist, jupp..`
`19:06.02`	`Develin`	`dholm: nu blev det annorlunda...`
`19:06.08`	`dholm`	`vad h�nde nu d�?`
`19:06.12`	`Leo42`	`GGS: got the error message: "can't open /def/fd0: not such device or address"`
`19:06.31`	`Develin`	`dholm: nu hittar den ingen CD att boota p� s�ger den`
`19:06.43`	`GGS`	`Leo42, def doesn't exist :-)`
`19:06.49`	`Leo42`	`rah`
`19:06.54`	`Leo42`	`I meant dev`
`19:06.54`	`Develin`	`please specifu boot device or shell for a shell..`
`19:06.54`	`dholm`	`har du kollat md5:an f�r ison? :)`
`19:07.04`	`Develin`	`dholm: jepps, var ok`
`19:07.06`	`GGS`	`Try, mount /dev/fd0 /mnt`
`19:07.18`	`Leo42`	`GGS: that's (of course) what i did`
`19:07.51`	`dholm`	`inget skumt med din CD-spelare? typ SCSI eller n�t s�nt?`
`19:08.17`	`Develin`	`dholm: Nj�e, har iofs. en DVD-RW och en vanlig CDRW... kanske ska testa den andra spelaren..`
`19:08.30`	`dholm`	`g�r det`
`19:08.32`	`GGS`	`Ok, If dmesg doesn't tell you of any floppy, eg fd0 or fd1, I believe it is not properly connected.`
`19:08.37`	`dholm`	`det ska funka med b�da, men man vet aldrig`
`19:08.57`	`Leo42`	`GGS: it is`
`19:09.05`	`Leo42`	`GGS: I have access to it under morphos...`
`19:09.49`	`GGS`	`Leo42, access to floppy under MorphOS ?, it is not supported :-)`
`19:09.58`	`Leo42`	`rahh...`
`19:10.07`	`GGS`	`Or is it an USB-floppy ?`
`19:10.24`	`Leo42`	`please just listen to me...`
`19:10.52`	`Leo42`	`http://sourceforge.net/projects/unmorphos/`
`19:11.02`	`Leo42`	`this is working`
`19:11.22`	`Leo42`	`and of course I meant the internal fp disk controller, not usb...`
`19:11.30`	`Leo42`	`so cable is properly connected...`
`19:11.50`	`dholm`	`GGS: http://tinyurl.com/d5ncj`
`19:11.51`	`GGS`	`ok, didn't know about that device.`
`19:12.48`	`GGS`	`dholm, This site is not affiliated with or sponsored by Google`
`19:13.16`	`dholm`	`GGS: "something such" �r inte korrekt engelska`
`19:13.22`	`ChaoZer`	`Leo42: huh .. there is a working trackdisk.device for peg?`
`19:13.31`	`ChaoZer`	`Leo42: or do you mean something else ;)?`
`19:13.46`	`Leo42`	`ChaoZer: yep, buggy, breaks multitasking, but "works"...`
`19:14.02`	`Leo42`	`but that's not the point :)`
`19:14.02`	`ChaoZer`	`Leo42: ah. always a start :)`
`19:14.23`	`ChaoZer`	`Leo42: not that I have any use for it .. I have a cardreader instead of a floppy drive here ;)`
`19:14.45`	`ChaoZer`	`btw.. guys`
`19:14.45`	`dholm`	`www.se-spider.com <- kul :)`
`19:14.49`	`Leo42`	`now I'm trying to mount this damn drive under this f** linux :)`
`19:14.57`	`GGS`	`Leo42, Ok, you have to ask some with more knowledge around linux, last time I used a floppy with pegasos and linux (debian) it did work, but that was 1-2 year ago i think.`
`19:15.30`	`Leo42`	`people with more knowledge help me with "man... man... man..."`
`19:15.32`	`dholm`	`Leo42: which kernel are you using?`
`19:15.32`	`ChaoZer`	`do any of you know some interesting pathfinding algo other than A* .. breadthfirst or depthfirst?`
`19:15.44`	`dholm`	`ChaoZer: simulated annealing`
`19:15.52`	`ChaoZer`	`dholm: tell me more :)`
`19:15.58`	`dholm`	`ChaoZer: use google`
`19:16.12`	`Leo42`	`dholm: debian`
`19:16.27`	`dholm`	`it's a weird algorithm based on which temperatures steel harden at, frequently used in AI`
`19:16.30`	`dholm`	`Leo42: which kernel are you using?`
`19:16.39`	`ChaoZer`	`dholm: mm ok ;)`
`19:16.43`	`GGS`	`dholm, thank you for correcting :-)`
`19:16.44`	`Leo42`	`2.4.x I believe...`
`19:17.38`	`dholm`	`ChaoZer: it's fairly popular so it's not just "because we could", it actually generates good results`
`19:17.39`	`dholm`	`Leo42: eeeh, upgrade, you are running on an ancient kernel`
`19:17.40`	`dholm`	`Leo42: floppy support was fixed on ppc fairly recently.. 2.6.9 or something like that`
`19:17.50`	`ChaoZer`	`dholm: better than A*?`
`19:18.07`	`Leo42`	`dholm: ?!`
`19:18.12`	`dholm`	`ChaoZer: I don't remember exactly, probably not for path finding, it's a general search algorithm`
`19:18.16`	`Develin`	`gahh, varf�r har jag alltid problem med att bryta autoboot'en i OF ?... n�n som har ett tips ?`
`19:18.19`	`ChaoZer`	`dholm: ok`
`19:18.25`	`kozz`	`ChaoZer: Kruskals rocks :)`
`19:18.28`	`dholm`	`Develin: st�ng av den ;)`
`19:18.55`	`BlackEagle`	`Develin: h�ll inne escape`
`19:19.03`	`ChaoZer`	`kozz: tell me more`
`19:19.10`	`Develin`	`dholm: nej, jag �r van min meny... men jag undrar ifall det �r mitt tangentbord som inte �r helt 100 med OF...`
`19:19.13`	`Leo42`	`please don't tell me i need to download/compile/build/whatever 30Mb to make this damn drive work ? :(`
`19:19.16`	`dholm`	`ChaoZer: it's kinda like neural networks, you get awesome results but it's difficult to understand why ;)`
`19:19.18`	`Develin`	`BlackEagle: hj�lper inte`
`19:19.21`	`BlackEagle`	`Develin: b�rja ungef�r n�r du h�r "klicket" i monitorn innan den f�r bild`
`19:19.24`	`BlackEagle`	`h�r`
`19:19.30`	`BlackEagle`	`det funkar alltid h�r`
`19:19.40`	`kozz`	`ChaoZer: hmm, what do you want to know?`
`19:19.51`	`Develin`	`det g�r det aldrig h�r =(... m�ste trycka som en idiot.`
`19:20.00`	`BlackEagle`	`hmm`
`19:20.02`	`dholm`	`Leo42: well, you are running a really outdated system, so yes, you need and should update`
`19:20.02`	`kozz`	`Develin: st�ll in h�gre delay`
`19:20.14`	`BlackEagle`	`som sagt, jag b�rjar h�lla inne n�r jag h�r att sk�rmen �r p� G`
`19:20.20`	`Leo42`	`dholm: is there an easy way to update ?`
`19:20.30`	`BlackEagle`	`tror jag har 0s autoboot h�r`
`19:20.44`	`ChaoZer`	`kozz: just a brief explanation of how it works:)`
`19:20.55`	`Develin`	`autoboot in 0 seconds st�r det, men jag har �ndrat det..`
`19:20.59`	`dholm`	`Leo42: man apt-get`
`19:21.07`	`BlackEagle`	`ska kolla vad jag har, brb`
`19:21.16`	`*** part/#pegasos.org BlackEagle (~Beohram@ua-83-227-176-82.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`19:21.43`	`Develin`	`det �r millisekunder som anges i OF va ?`
`19:22.10`	`kozz`	`ChaoZer: sort edges, pick shortest, only add the edge if they are in different clusters, and merge the different clusters when adding and edge, it's heuristic but don't know what you want so`
`19:23.14`	`Leo42`	`dholm: know how it works...`
`19:23.26`	`Leo42`	`dholm: this won't help me to guess the name of the package...`
`19:23.38`	`dholm`	`use dselect then`
`19:23.39`	`ChaoZer`	`kozz: hmm`
`19:24.08`	`kozz`	`Leo42: it's problably already installed, you probably need "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"`
`19:26.18`	`*** join/#pegasos.org BlackEagle (~Beohram@ua-83-227-176-82.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`19:26.33`	`BlackEagle`	`3s var det`
`19:26.36`	`Leo42`	`hum... got a pb with nano btw.. whenver i try to run it, i got the message: "Error opening terminal: xterm" (when launched from an xterm) or "Error opening terminal: linux" (in text mode)`
`19:26.52`	`BlackEagle`	`var bara att h�lla inne escape ja`
`19:27.47`	`BlackEagle`	`oj... gl�mde disken... vattnet l�r ju vara ljummet nu`
`19:28.29`	`lisardman`	`hehe`
`19:28.30`	`lisardman`	`usch ja`
`19:28.37`	`lisardman`	`borde diska jag oxo`
`19:28.39`	`lisardman`	`men orkar`
`19:28.39`	`lisardman`	`inte`
`19:28.50`	`BlackEagle`	`jag... orkar...`
`19:28.56`	`BlackEagle`	`blir nog 3-4 omg�ngar`
`19:32.20`	`Develin`	`Det blir inget Gentoo h�r idag heller skulle jag tro =)`
`19:32.29`	`lisardman`	`stackare..`
`19:32.38`	`lisardman`	`gentoo is the shit`
`19:32.59`	`Develin`	`Ska det vara s� om�jligt att installera s� k�nns det n�stan som det kvittar 0)`
`19:33.12`	`lisardman`	`aldrig haft n�gra problem med det`
`19:33.13`	`Develin`	`MOS var ju en barnlek att installera sp`
`19:33.21`	`lisardman`	`tveksamt`
`19:33.27`	`lisardman`	`kunde inte installera mos p� min peg..`
`19:33.34`	`lisardman`	`tror dholm har samma problem`
`19:33.37`	`Develin`	`Jag har alltid haft problem med Gentoo`
`19:33.48`	`lisardman`	`du har haft otur`
`19:33.53`	`Develin`	`Debian �r det enda som funkar utan problem`
`19:34.22`	`BlackEagle`	`s� g�r det n�r man f�rs�ker besudla sin peg med linux!`
`19:34.33`	`dholm`	`Develin: vad blev fel nu?`
`19:34.41`	`lisardman`	`BlackEagle, det �r juh det enda som g�r o installera p� dem`
`19:34.44`	`dholm`	`MOS funkar ju inte p� min ODW heller :/`
`19:34.52`	`lisardman`	`nepp det �r b0rk`
`19:35.14`	`dholm`	`b0rk-i-t0rk`
`19:35.49`	`Develin`	`dholm: OF hittade inte min DVD-spelare...`
`19:36.03`	`dholm`	`um, ok`
`19:36.07`	`Develin`	`dholm: Eller den hittar den men den kan inte l�sa inneh�llet p� cdn`
`19:36.10`	`BlackEagle`	`ODW... d� f�r man skylla sig sj�lv =)`
`19:36.30`	`dholm`	`meh, det �r ju bara en pegasos 2 med specad h�rdvara ;)`
`19:36.32`	`dholm`	`Develin: skumt`
`19:36.44`	`BlackEagle`	`varf�r funkar inte mos d�`
`19:36.48`	`dholm`	`Develin: i v�rsta fall s� fixar vi det p� n�sta push`
`19:37.11`	`dholm`	`BlackEagle: bra fr�ga, Merko trodde det var n�n bugg i schedulern`
`19:37.12`	`Develin`	`dholm: Jag plockar ner den minimala ISOn och testar med den...`
`19:37.27`	`BlackEagle`	`dholm: �h�`
`19:37.32`	`GGS`	`MorphOS �r bara till f�r eliten :-)`
`19:37.33`	`dholm`	`och det ska ju inte komma n�gra fler versioner innan "1.5" nu, s� det l�r v�l inte fixas p� m�nga �r :/`
`19:37.57`	`dholm`	`Develin: du kan ju �ven testa 2004.3, fast 2005.0 ska ju funka, har inte sett n�gra pegasos-relaterade buggrapporter �nnu`
`19:38.01`	`BlackEagle`	`�sch d�, 1.5 kommer nog i �r`
`19:38.02`	`dholm`	`innan idag d� ;)`
`19:38.10`	`dholm`	`s� l�ter det varje �r ;)`
`19:38.12`	`BlackEagle`	`g�r och diskar lite mer`
`19:39.30`	`Develin`	`dholm: vart borkar MOS ur f�r dig ?`
`19:39.46`	`lisardman`	`min b0rkade vid b00t`
`19:40.05`	`dholm`	`under booten (LiveCDn funkar fint), h�nder inget efter "MorphOS/OpenFirmware" (eller vad det �r det st�r)`
`19:40.12`	`Develin`	`lisardman: S� boot cd boot.img funkar inte ?`
`19:40.13`	`dholm`	`sen dumpar den massa p� serieporten, typ 600k`
`19:40.20`	`lisardman`	`Develin, nej`
`19:40.24`	`*** join/#pegasos.org walle (~w0@1-1-4-6a.gmt.gbg.bostream.se)`
`19:40.25`	`dholm`	`jod�, och jag kan installera och s�, g�r inte att boota det installerade systemet bara..`
`19:40.32`	`walle`	`tjena, tjena.`
`19:40.33`	`dholm`	`aah, det var lisardman du snackade med ;)`
`19:40.43`	`Develin`	`dholm: b�gge tv� =)`
`19:41.03`	`BlackEagle`	`satan vad nice det �r med nyst�dat rum, man blir helt salig`
`19:41.05`	`dholm`	`jag har testat med typ 1.4.0, 1.4.5 och 1.4.6`
`19:41.10`	`Develin`	`har ni n�n MBR-disk i burken ?`
`19:41.11`	`dholm`	`BlackEagle: yep :)`
`19:41.19`	`dholm`	`BlackEagle: man skulle ha n�gon som gjorde det �t en bara`
`19:41.24`	`dholm`	`Develin: noop`
`19:41.39`	`Develin`	`dholm: N�n FFS/SFS partition d� ?`
`19:41.41`	`BlackEagle`	`som om man spelat arkanoid och just lyckats f� bort alla block p� en bana ;)`
`19:41.55`	`dholm`	`Develin: 1 FFS (boot) 1 SFS (MOS)`
`19:42.01`	`dholm`	`och flaggorna �r korrekta`
`19:42.37`	`Develin`	`dholm: ligger systemet p� SFS'en ?`
`19:42.46`	`Leo42`	`damn, don't have 500Mb to do the full dist-upgrade just to read a 1.44Mb floppy :)`
`19:42.51`	`Develin`	`isf. �r problemet d�r... ta bort boot fr�n FFS'en s� funkar det`
`19:43.03`	`Develin`	`l�gg den p� SFS-enheten`
`19:43.20`	`Develin`	`Jag hade det problemet p� min maskin`
`19:43.21`	`dholm`	`Leo42: you only need to upgrade the kernel`
`19:43.31`	`dholm`	`Develin: ja, ligger p� SFS'en`
`19:43.37`	`dholm`	`SFS = Boot + Mount, FFS = Mount`
`19:43.50`	`Leo42`	`ok`
`19:44.05`	`dholm`	`Leo42: should be less than 10MB`
`19:45.03`	`Develin`	`Du ska egentligen inte beh�va ha boot p� alls vad jag vet om du inte har flera system-diskar`
`19:45.27`	`MajorTom`	`jo jo dat`
`19:45.28`	`dholm`	`ass�, ok`
`19:46.06`	`dholm`	`MajorTom: was ist das?`
`19:46.07`	`dholm`	`MajorTom: das ist was!! ha ha`
`19:46.25`	`ChaoZer`	`ya ya ya`
`19:46.32`	`ChaoZer`	`was ist loss was ist dass`
`19:46.35`	`ChaoZer`	`ya ya ya`
`19:46.35`	`ChaoZer`	`was ist loss was ist dass`
`19:46.56`	`MajorTom`	`Whazzup`
`19:47.11`	`Develin`	`hatar linux =)`
`19:47.19`	`BlackEagle`	`das ist meine Trachtenpuppe`
`19:47.33`	`BlackEagle`	`bitte, verveltigunge sie nicht`
`19:47.33`	`dholm`	`mein quietsche entchen`
`19:47.46`	`BlackEagle`	`ich habe keine Zeit su waschen =)`
`19:47.46`	`MajorTom`	`oh hehe`
`19:48.54`	`Develin`	`dholm: samma j�vla squashhfs-fel...`
`19:49.02`	`Develin`	`Suctoo`
`19:50.30`	`dholm`	`Develin: vilken mirror h�mtade du ifr�n?`
`19:50.38`	`Develin`	`pudas`
`19:50.49`	`dholm`	`putas`
`19:51.02`	`Develin`	`n�n svenska`
`19:51.06`	`Develin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:51.09`	`dholm`	`ska dra ner den sj�lv och testa`
`19:51.36`	`Develin`	`ok, danke... b�rjar bli ot�lig p� detta nu =)`
`19:51.58`	`dholm`	`http://www.genevieve-cory.150m.com/music/sesamstrasse.html`
`19:52.40`	`*** join/#pegasos.org _Develin_ (~Pegasos@h85n3c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com)`
`19:53.07`	`MajorTom`	`wicked`
`19:53.15`	`lisardman`	`wicked!`
`19:53.20`	`lisardman`	`scooter..`
`19:54.42`	`dholm`	`putas �r seeeeeg`
`19:54.57`	`DevXP`	`dholm: 250kb/s fick jag ungf.`
`19:55.11`	`dholm`	`jag v�ntar fortfarande p� att komma in`
`19:55.18`	`Develin`	`dholm: mirror.pudas.net`
`19:55.21`	`dholm`	`men v�ran uppkoppling har varit skum hela helgen`
`19:56.04`	`dholm`	`looool, TV4 NU!!`
`19:56.10`	`dholm`	`polisen anv�nder en "spermahund"`
`19:56.18`	`Develin`	`hehe`
`19:56.19`	`lisardman`	`jupp`
`19:56.21`	`lisardman`	`den har jag sett`
`19:56.30`	`dholm`	`fyfan va sjukt`
`19:56.33`	`lisardman`	`har ni inte h�rt var rocks har sagt d�`
`19:56.50`	`MajorTom`	`Was sagt er da ?`
`19:56.52`	`lisardman`	`de �r n�gon kvinnof�reningen`
`19:56.56`	`dholm`	`hur tr�nar man upp den egentligen? "spring ut i skogen och dra en handtralla n�gonstans, sen kommer du tillbaka och s� sl�pper vi hunden"`
`19:57.09`	`dholm`	`MajorTom: das Spermahund`
`19:57.18`	`BlackEagle`	`�hm`
`19:57.22`	`dholm`	`rocks �r ju en kedja butiker som s�ljer cd?`
`19:57.26`	`MajorTom`	`dholm: oh weh, das h�rt sich gef�hrlich an.`
`19:57.34`	`lisardman`	`dholm, f�rutom det..`
`19:57.54`	`lisardman`	`dholm, ordf�randen sade att alla m�n var djur`
`19:57.54`	`BlackEagle`	`ja, die Leute sind ja vansinnig verr�ckt!`
`19:58.17`	`MajorTom`	`stimmt`
`19:58.20`	`BlackEagle`	`det �r vi ju =)`
`19:58.24`	`dholm`	`Develin: du f�r v�nta p� resultatet tills imorgon, Spooks nu :)`
`19:58.29`	`BlackEagle`	`d�ggdjur t.o.m.`
`19:58.33`	`Develin`	`dholm: jahupps =)...`
`19:58.46`	`Develin`	`dholm: n�stan en cliffhanger juh...`
`19:58.52`	`BlackEagle`	`You and me baby aint nothing but mammals, so let's do it like they do on the Discovery channel!`
`19:58.53`	`dholm`	`lite kanske ;)`
`19:59.09`	`dholm`	`Develin: heh`
`20:00.05`	`dholm`	`god natt, guten nacht, good night`
`20:01.23`	`BlackEagle`	`gnatt p� re`
`20:01.26`	`Develin`	`he -> http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12541&forum=14`
`20:02.00`	`Develin`	`Fattar inte ens att n�gra trodde att detta var sant.`
`20:02.19`	`MajorTom`	`Develin: no it's like you`
`20:02.20`	`lisardman`	`inte jag heller`
`20:02.24`	`lisardman`	`s� j�vla fejk`
`20:02.37`	`Develin`	`MajorTom: I'm not a fake =)`
`20:03.52`	`MajorTom`	`lame arsed Firefox fake :-(`
`20:05.00`	`Develin`	`MajorTom: I really can't understand that some lightheads would think it was real... Enough for the bad re-touch of the image but would a port go un-noticed from the rest of us... nah hardly =)`
`20:05.42`	`MajorTom`	`hardlynot`
`20:06.45`	`Leo42`	`what's the dpkg command to configure/reconfigure unconfigured downloaded packages again ?`
`20:07.12`	`Develin`	`dpkg-reconfigure ?`
`20:07.24`	`MajorTom`	`how appropriate`
`20:07.34`	`Develin`	`try tab'ing while in SU-mode =)`
`20:07.50`	`Develin`	`dpkg<tab> and choose from the list`
`20:08.11`	`Leo42`	`it asks for the package name...`
`20:09.21`	`Develin`	`Leo42: yes, you choose the package you want to configure... but I can't remeber how to check the list of available packages atm. sorry`
`20:10.11`	`MajorTom`	`I only know of apt-cache`
`20:10.27`	`MajorTom`	`apt-cache search or so`
`20:10.30`	`Develin`	`maybe aptitude can do it for you ?`
`20:10.58`	`Leo42`	`Develin: come on ! :) installation downloaded about a dozen packages... i don't know them all !`
`20:11.24`	`Develin`	`Leo42: Hey, welcome to the wonderfull (sigh!) world of Linux =)`
`20:14.55`	`ChaoZer`	`Develin: very quiet on the FTP lately btw ;)`
`20:15.36`	`Develin`	`ChaoZer: My HD is full =)`
`20:16.22`	`ChaoZer`	`haha :)`
`20:16.48`	`ChaoZer`	`Develin: hmpf.. you only downloaded a few movies ;)`
`20:17.25`	`Develin`	`only got 1.2Gb left or so...`
`20:17.41`	`Develin`	`almost filled 200..`
`20:18.07`	`BlackEagle`	`throw away all the crap`
`20:18.20`	`Develin`	`I need to use my DVD-burner more often =)`
`20:18.58`	`BlackEagle`	`or you could try this`
`20:18.59`	`BlackEagle`	`throw away all the crap`
`20:19.02`	`BlackEagle`	`=)`
`20:19.24`	`ChaoZer`	`ts ts :).. one of the disks arent even connected here yet ;p .. I have like 150gb free anyway`
`20:19.31`	`Develin`	`BlackEagle: How would I know what is crap then... I've got a lot of unseen material...`
`20:19.40`	`BlackEagle`	`I have a 120GB drive in the peg which is all free`
`20:20.02`	`Develin`	`BlackEagle: That's because you don't use your Peg for everything =)`
`20:20.04`	`BlackEagle`	`Develin: watch that BEFORE you get new stuff then =)`
`20:20.17`	`BlackEagle`	`Develin: mainly because I don't have TV-out`
`20:20.47`	`BlackEagle`	`If I had that, I would have a bunch of the movies on this computer as well`
`20:22.35`	`Develin`	`faan, fick makrill p� tangentbordet =(`
`20:23.28`	`lisardman`	`onice`
`20:23.59`	`ironfist`	`gonatt alla`
`20:24.06`	`Develin`	`gonatt fisten!`
`20:43.33`	`Leo42`	`hum...`
`20:43.33`	`Leo42`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:46.23`	`MajorTom`	`no bootloader on Pegasos`
`20:53.23`	`GGS`	`dpkg-reconfigure -a`
`20:56.00`	`Leo42`	`ok`
`20:56.15`	`Leo42`	`downloaded/installed 2.6 but i'm still running 2.4 after a reboot...`
`20:56.33`	`Leo42`	`problem is that kernel is on bi0: ffs partition iirc...`
`20:56.45`	`Leo42`	`maybe i should copy the new kernel here and boot from there ?`
`20:57.38`	`ChaoZer`	`or you boot from the one in /boot ;)`
`20:58.04`	`Leo42`	`how ?`
`20:58.33`	`Leo42`	`wow: ethernet is a lot faster on linux than on morphos...`
`20:58.57`	`ChaoZer`	`well you can access ext partitions from firmware iirc... i dont use linux on peg .. so dont ask me ;)`
`20:59.09`	`ChaoZer`	`i guess you can ls /dev/ide/disk0,0/ etc`
`20:59.35`	`Leo42`	`on peg2, maybe...`
`21:00.21`	`ChaoZer`	`yeah`
`21:00.34`	`Leo42`	`i don't have a peg2 :)�`
`21:02.14`	`BlackEagle`	`I thought everybody had Peg 2s! You've disturbed my world perception`
`21:03.37`	`Leo42`	`lol`
`21:03.41`	`Leo42`	`sorry about that :)`
`21:04.38`	`BlackEagle`	`=)`
`21:06.26`	`GGS`	`Leo42, You cant access other partitions then FFS and fat32 from the firmware on Pegasos 1.`
`21:07.00`	`Leo42`	`i knew that...`
`21:07.08`	`GGS`	`ok.`
`21:08.11`	`Frek`	`http://www.aseltine.com/rhee/`
`21:08.28`	`GGS`	`will make it little more tricky with linux, you need to put the kernel on the ffs partition.`
`21:09.56`	`GGS`	`You can mount it from linux, mount /dev/hdx /mnt -affs`
`21:10.14`	`GGS`	`should work`
`21:10.55`	`GGS`	`or any other mountpoint`
`21:10.56`	`Leo42`	`hum... how do i specify a ramdisk when booting (as it seems to be needed...)`
`21:12.30`	`GGS`	`should not be needed, its been removed in newer debian kernels in some strange way, I got problem with this myself, when tried.`
`21:12.43`	`Leo42`	`removed ?`
`21:12.52`	`Leo42`	`during installation i've been told it was needed...`
`21:12.53`	`GGS`	`well, yes...`
`21:13.07`	`Leo42`	`"you are attempting to install an initrd kernel image. this will not work unless you have configured your bootloader to use initrd..."`
`21:13.57`	`GGS`	`No if you have an installationskernel, it should be needed. It didn't work when i tried.`
`21:14.10`	`*** join/#pegasos.org cofyr (cofyr@bullerovre63.bitnet.nu)`
`21:14.12`	`Leo42`	`i don't know what i have :)`
`21:14.25`	`Leo42`	`I just downloaded this damn 2.6 kernel...`
`21:14.35`	`GGS`	`You have a working linux-system ?`
`21:14.43`	`*** part/#pegasos.org cofyr (cofyr@bullerovre63.bitnet.nu)`
`21:14.58`	`Leo42`	`I had :)`
`21:15.17`	`Leo42`	`before I tried to download 2.6 just to make this damn fp drive work !`
`21:15.33`	`GGS`	`wait`
`21:17.05`	`GGS`	`http://people.debian.org/~luther/pegasos/sarge-pegasos1-netinst-2004.10.25.iso`
`21:17.18`	`GGS`	`Have you tried that ?`
`21:18.39`	`GGS`	`That should be an installer for pegasos 1, that installs Debian testing (Sarge)`
`21:18.50`	`Leo42`	`nah... i won't reinstall it again ! :)`
`21:19.09`	`Leo42`	`what is the argument to pass to the kernel to select a ramdisk from my bi0 partition ?`
`21:19.40`	`GGS`	`dont remember`
`21:20.36`	`GGS`	`initrd=/dev/ram ?`
`21:20.46`	`GGS`	`or init=/dev/ram`
`21:21.41`	`GGS`	`it should also be possible to just open a simple shell by using init=/bin/sh`
`21:26.05`	`Leo42`	`but i have a file "/bin/sh: can't access tty;" :)`
`21:26.10`	`Leo42`	`=> no keyboard ! :)`
`21:29.36`	`GGS`	`yes, thats the problem... everything have become modules in debian.`
`21:29.49`	`Leo42`	`so ? :)`
`21:30.55`	`GGS`	`I guess the aim is that people should just use the installers, then have a working system...`
`21:31.20`	`GGS`	`after the installation.`
`21:32.19`	`GGS`	`so if you specify init=/bin/sh modules for keyboard wont be loaded`
`21:33.38`	`GGS`	`you could use serial terminal :-)`
`21:38.21`	`Leo42`	`arg...`
`21:38.38`	`Leo42`	`there's no way to stop the msg at the first error when booting kernel ?`
`21:39.06`	`GGS`	`what message ?`
`21:39.58`	`Leo42`	`there are error messages when booting kernel...`
`21:40.07`	`Leo42`	`(because it can't find initrd image i guess)`
`21:41.44`	`GGS`	`cant you boot with the old kernel by specifying root=/dev/hdx`
`21:42.28`	`Leo42`	`I can...`
`21:42.47`	`Leo42`	`but i have downloaded this kernel so i'd like to use it ! :)`
`21:44.05`	`GGS`	`Where are the kernels and where are the modules ?`
`21:45.08`	`GGS`	`If you did install a newer kernel, also modules should have been installed I guess, and which should be loaded when you boot the kernel.`
`21:47.10`	`Leo42`	`ok`
`21:47.15`	`GGS`	`However im unsure when its come to the pegasos 1`
`21:47.16`	`Leo42`	`let's start again`
`21:47.25`	`Leo42`	`I had 2.4.x installation`
`21:47.43`	`GGS`	`yes`
`21:47.51`	`Leo42`	`which I booted using "boot my_kernel root=/dev/hda2" (basically: with some other options...`
`21:48.03`	`Leo42`	`my_kernel being on my bi0: partition`
`21:48.10`	`GGS`	`yes`
`21:48.11`	`Leo42`	`now i installed 2.6.x kernel`
`21:48.30`	`Leo42`	`seems like it has been installed in /boot/ (ie: on the /dev/hda2 partition)`
`21:48.44`	`Leo42`	`what should i do to boot using this new kernel instead of the old one ?`
`21:48.52`	`GGS`	`yes, likely so`
`21:49.05`	`Leo42`	`I tried to copy it to my bi0: partition and boot like the other one but it won't work...`
`21:50.15`	`GGS`	`If you boot the old system, then mount the (bi0 partition) and move/copy the 2.6.x kernel to that parttition.`
`21:50.32`	`GGS`	`ok, mised that`
`21:50.44`	`Leo42`	`I already copied the 2.6 kernel from /boot to my bi0: partition`
`21:51.14`	`Leo42`	`it loads the kernel then prints error messages: can't find xxxx...`
`21:51.30`	`GGS`	`did you copy everything 2.6.x related from /boot to bi0 ?`
`21:52.08`	`Leo42`	`which means ?`
`21:52.19`	`GGS`	`Perhaps this kernel isn't for the pegasos 1 ?`
`21:52.48`	`GGS`	`I have not tried to install so on a pegasos 1.`
`21:53.22`	`Leo42`	`how could i know ?`
`21:53.36`	`Leo42`	`i just did an apt-get from my peg1 installation...`
`21:53.48`	`Leo42`	`but i don't think the problem has anything to do with peg1...`
`21:53.54`	`Leo42`	`it can't mount/find some file`
`21:54.05`	`Leo42`	`I guess it is linked to the message i got when installing it...`
`21:54.13`	`GGS`	`yup`
`21:54.25`	`Leo42`	`(ie: "you are attempting to install an initrd kernel image. this will not work unless you have configured your bootloader to use initrd...")`
`21:55.37`	`GGS`	`If i look at my partition 7boot on the Pegasos II I have a lot of files related to the kernel, System.map-2.6.8-powerpc, config-2.6.8-powerpc etc...`
`21:56.02`	`GGS`	`I do not know what all these files are doing.`
`22:00.34`	`GGS`	`Ok, i have to go to bed now, good night "`
`22:01.01`	`Leo42`	`ok`
`22:01.03`	`ChaoZer`	`kozz: vaken?`
`22:01.05`	`Leo42`	`'night`

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