| 00:00.52 | polyonymous | that's why I still believe in fairy tales! :) |
| 00:01.21 | Marex | heh ;-) |
| 00:01.57 | polyonymous | but really, I don't feel 34 even though I'm not a woman :) |
| 00:02.35 | Marex | I dont feel 19 either |
| 00:02.45 | Marex | at least not mentally :-B |
| 00:03.01 | Marex | but uhm ... mentally I should be sealed in madhouse :T |
| 00:03.02 | polyonymous | lemme guess, you feel 91? :) |
| 00:03.27 | Marex | polyonymous, not really ... I feel like 9 ;-) |
| 00:03.35 | polyonymous | ah :) |
| 00:03.41 | polyonymous | Pippi's age :) |
| 00:03.51 | Marex | jeez :D |
| 00:04.01 | polyonymous | I love Pippi! She's my hero! :) |
| 00:04.06 | Marex | ok ... maybe 13 is more appropriate ;) |
| 00:04.14 | Marex | heh |
| 00:04.56 | Marex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokusatsu_Tenshi_Dokuro-chan oh yeah :D |
| 00:05.06 | Marex | thats my hero :-B |
| 00:05.59 | polyonymous | hmm.. the difference is not really the age, but the birthdate... And in this respect I feel like I was born in 19th century, I don't give a shit about anime :) |
| 00:06.02 | Marex | I have also hacked opie so I can use cool Dokuro wallpaper there without that dumb scaling |
| 00:06.34 | Marex | polyonymous, :D |
| 00:06.39 | polyonymous | I used to have claude monet as a desktop wallpaper |
| 00:06.53 | Marex | scary :T |
| 00:06.58 | polyonymous | beautiful |
| 00:07.18 | polyonymous | not Monet himself, I mean his painting :) |
| 00:07.38 | Marex | I understood ... that doesnt change anything about its scariness ;) |
| 00:07.40 | polyonymous | one of his waterlilies |
| 00:08.02 | Marex | wasnt he an impressionist? |
| 00:08.28 | polyonymous | he was |
| 00:08.43 | polyonymous | is that scary? :) |
| 00:09.24 | polyonymous | if so, you're way too easily scared :) |
| 00:11.04 | Marex | Im trying to recall what I learnt on highschool |
| 00:11.33 | Marex | in literature classes ... darn ... I just recall our teacher was perv and was abusing my friend (girl) |
| 00:11.35 | polyonymous | Art is not something you can learn about, unless you love it :) |
| 00:11.44 | Marex | yea ;-) |
| 00:11.54 | polyonymous | yeah, school does a good job about making kids hate art. |
| 00:12.18 | Marex | this was extereme case though ... he really was a moron |
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| 00:19.31 | polyonymous | debian... Linux was developed like 2 years after I finished the school :) |
| 00:23.05 | Marex | pity I was too small to see the begining of linux |
| 00:23.43 | polyonymous | you can still download it, I think :) |
| 00:23.52 | polyonymous | I remember I've tried 1.0.3something |
| 00:24.08 | Marex | I know, I even looked at 0.0.1 |
| 00:24.13 | polyonymous | I haven't :) |
| 00:24.22 | Marex | but its not like seeing the whole process :) |
| 00:24.29 | polyonymous | I think I started actually use it at ..hmm.. 1.3? could that be? I can't remember now.. |
| 00:24.50 | Marex | I started at ... 2.4.19 ? |
| 00:24.58 | Marex | hmm :T |
| 00:25.27 | polyonymous | but beginnging of linux isn't like beginning of the world to me, I've seen a lot of OSes before ;) |
| 00:25.44 | polyonymous | So I can't say I watched the process closely, it was just another os. |
| 00:26.35 | Marex | it would be cool if one could move back in time and see |
| 00:27.15 | polyonymous | not so sure :) |
| 00:27.17 | Marex | because at least my view of linux changed over the years and I really would like to see the begining now |
| 00:27.35 | Marex | it must have been interesting |
| 00:28.05 | Marex | but thats maybe from being overdosed with "RevolutionOS" |
| 00:28.16 | polyonymous | beauty is in the eye of the beholder :) |
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| 00:58.04 | Marex | http://toastytech.com/guis/uirant.html hehe :B |
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| 09:36.52 | bluelightning | hi all |
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| 09:51.50 | Marex | hi :) |
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| 10:23.31 | Marex | bluelightning, Im now looking on the doctab issue ... looks like opie sheet has beaten me |
| 10:25.29 | bluelightning | Marex: ok |
| 10:25.51 | bluelightning | the ultimate would be to have the doc tab not even shown, but I don't know how easy that is |
| 10:26.20 | bluelightning | (not shown when it's disabled, I mean) |
| 10:33.16 | Marex | bluelightning, who did that opie-sheet? |
| 10:33.49 | Marex | btw it looks like a bug in Qt to me :-/ |
| 10:33.55 | Marex | (sheet problem) |
| 10:36.29 | bluelightning | some people called "thufir" and "hayzel" did most of the early work with little bits from other people since then |
| 10:36.34 | bluelightning | (according to CVS history) |
| 10:36.44 | bluelightning | I don't know either of them, must have been before my time |
| 10:37.04 | bluelightning | that bug you were looking at is very likely a qt issue |
| 10:37.24 | bluelightning | it's possible it was fixed in a later version of qt 2.3.x (.11 or .12) |
| 10:37.34 | bluelightning | if so, we could derive a patch from there |
| 10:38.23 | Marex | why cant we just switch to qt 2.3.12 ? |
| 10:39.05 | bluelightning | IIRC someone said it introduced more bugs |
| 10:39.21 | bluelightning | perhaps zecke would be able to comment... ? |
| 10:39.39 | Marex | no idea ... he still ignores me :B |
| 10:39.44 | bluelightning | why? |
| 10:40.02 | Marex | because he was not nice on me and I refused to accept it |
| 10:40.13 | Marex | we had some argument about some OEbug |
| 10:42.22 | Marex | btw as for qt 2.3.12 it didnt even started LCD for me :T |
| 10:42.37 | Marex | s/lcd/framebuffer/ |
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| 11:16.26 | bluelightning | yes... no announcement from drw and no message from him to say why he didn't send it :/ |
| 11:16.50 | m0d0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.56 | m0d0r | ups ;-)) |
| 11:16.58 | m0d0r | sorry |
| 11:52.28 | zecke | bluelightning: should be quite easy to not show it |
| 11:52.42 | zecke | bluelightning: it is a QTabWidget and one can just not call addTab |
| 11:53.02 | bluelightning | zecke: ok |
| 11:53.25 | bluelightning | I just figured if it was easy, with all the complaints we had about it someone would have done it by now :) |
| 11:53.54 | bluelightning | btw can you remind me why we aren't using QtE > 2.3.10 ? |
| 11:54.32 | Marex | bluelightning, Im looking at the launcher now ;) |
| 11:54.39 | bluelightning | Marex: cool |
| 12:00.07 | zecke | bluelightning: every new QtE has other optimisation. AFAIK 2.3.12 has broken alpha transparency |
| 12:00.57 | bluelightning | zecke: hmm, fun... |
| 12:15.49 | Marex | maybe IE6 is written in Qt :-B |
| 12:16.02 | bluelightning | heh |
| 12:16.02 | Marex | someone told me it also has such issues |
| 12:25.31 | bluelightning | night all |
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| 17:59.16 | slapin | hi, all! |
| 17:59.48 | slapin | Marex, ping |
| 18:00.02 | Marex | :E~~~ |
| 18:00.16 | slapin | Marex, thanks |
| 18:00.25 | Marex | slapin, what?! |
| 18:00.50 | slapin | Marex, do you please remember URL for opie bugtracker? |
| 18:01.12 | Marex | http://opie-bugs.oszine.de |
| 18:01.35 | Marex | slapin, your laziness lost borders :T |
| 18:07.18 | slapin | Could you please look into http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1881 ? |
| 18:11.55 | Marex | slapin, what about it? |
| 18:14.41 | slapin | Marex, I need that committed. |
| 18:14.58 | Marex | slapin, ask someone with cvs access |
| 18:15.03 | Marex | moreover tree is closed now |
| 18:16.32 | slapin | Marex, why? |
| 18:19.14 | slapin | Marex, that fixes thing with absence of 320x320 backgrounds |
| 18:19.46 | slapin | polyonymous, ping |
| 18:20.00 | polyonymous | pong |
| 18:20.41 | slapin | polyonymous, which reciepe in OE generates opie-taskbar-images-x-y? |
| 18:20.50 | polyonymous | opie-taskbar-images |
| 18:21.04 | slapin | polyonymous, do you have opie cvs access, btw? |
| 18:21.06 | polyonymous | (in packages/opie-taskbar, I think) |
| 18:21.07 | polyonymous | nope. |
| 18:21.16 | polyonymous | Unless you mean read access :)) |
| 18:21.32 | slapin | polyonymous, I mean r/w access :) |
| 18:21.50 | polyonymous | That's why I said no :) I don't really want to have it as long as opie uses cvs :) |
| 18:22.42 | polyonymous | Marex, I'd think it's open now (the tree). As of a couple of days ago, no? |
| 18:34.03 | slapin | polyonymous, is it posible to add backgrounds OE-wise then? |
| 18:34.25 | slapin | polyonymous, I mean http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1881 |
| 18:35.04 | polyonymous | slapin, theoretically, yes, you can add it in .bb, but now that the tree is going to be open again I'd prefer to add it to opie and use cvs bbs. |
| 18:36.10 | slapin | polyonymous, who is to be asked about it? |
| 18:36.20 | polyonymous | Try psokolovsky |
| 18:36.33 | polyonymous | Or about what? |
| 18:36.37 | polyonymous | About adding to opie cvs? |
| 18:37.00 | slapin | polyonymous, about that bug |
| 18:37.22 | polyonymous | slapin, about that opie bug or about fixing it locally in OE? Those are different things. |
| 18:37.40 | slapin | polyonymous, about opie bug |
| 18:38.32 | polyonymous | I dunno, as Marex pointed out you need someone with opie cvs access. Maybe Marex can elaborate on that too, even though he has no cvs access, he may be more acquainted with the situation. |
| 18:40.00 | slapin | Marex, ^^ |
| 18:40.27 | Marex | slapin, ask bluelightning |
| 18:41.01 | Marex | polyonymous, I think I will visit psychologist ... I spent two days digging in opie with no result |
| 18:41.31 | slapin | Marex, ?? |
| 18:41.34 | polyonymous | Marex, I wouldn't qualify "visit psychologist" as a "no result" :) |
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| 18:41.46 | polyonymous | slapin, Marex has just suggested that you ask bluelightning :) |
| 18:42.00 | Marex | polyonymous, thanks for translation ;) |
| 18:42.26 | Marex | hi drw |
| 18:42.34 | polyonymous | Marex, you're welcome ;-) I just don't get which part (or two parts for what I can tell by the number of question marks) is questioned. |
| 18:43.07 | slapin | grrr.... |
| 18:43.19 | Marex | polyonymous, probably both words were hard to understand ... thats why there are two question marks ;) |
| 18:43.33 | slapin | I was asking Marex about what actually made him somuch frustated about opie. |
| 18:43.44 | polyonymous | slapin, ah :) |
| 18:43.51 | polyonymous | slapin, have you ever digged opie code? :) |
| 18:44.12 | Marex | polyonymous, slapin doesnt need it ... he is ill enough :-B |
| 18:44.15 | slapin | polyonymous, yes, then ran away terrified. |
| 18:44.24 | polyonymous | slapin, so what the question is? :) |
| 18:46.06 | drw | hi Marex |
| 18:46.11 | slapin | Marex, why are you poking me all the time? :-E~~~ |
| 18:46.25 | polyonymous | because you're here :) |
| 18:46.31 | drw | 1.2.3 notices going out now... |
| 18:50.22 | drw | Digg up :-) - http://digg.com/linux_unix/Opie_1_2_3_Released |
| 18:51.08 | Marex | :) |
| 18:52.46 | m0d0r | ;-))) |
| 18:53.08 | Marex | m0d0r, I will translate it into czech in ~ 1 hour |
| 18:53.31 | Marex | drw, I and m0d0r will put announcements on czech and slovakian servers |
| 18:53.51 | Marex | slapin, wanna do the same for russian ones? |
| 18:54.11 | m0d0r | Marex: do you think that i am not able to translate from english ?:)))) but ok you do the work ;-))) |
| 18:54.20 | Marex | :D |
| 18:54.32 | Marex | m0d0r, I think you can ... ;) |
| 18:54.40 | Marex | polyonymous, you can do the same for german servers ;) |
| 18:54.42 | m0d0r | (^_^) |
| 18:55.12 | drw | Marex: cool, thanks |
| 18:55.13 | polyonymous | Marex, what do I have to do with russian servers? :) |
| 18:55.36 | polyonymous | oops |
| 18:55.42 | polyonymous | with germans. |
| 18:55.47 | m0d0r | polyonymous: hack |
| 18:55.55 | polyonymous | I don't have much to do with russians either, but more than germans :) |
| 18:56.41 | m0d0r | ;-) |
| 18:57.00 | Marex | polyonymous, arent you in germany now ? :D |
| 18:57.08 | polyonymous | yes. So what? :) |
| 18:57.13 | slapin | Marex, I have no idea about russian servers, at all. |
| 18:57.27 | polyonymous | maybe you want me to translate it into german too? :) I'd rather translate it to russian then :) |
| 18:57.27 | Marex | slapin, I see ... you are lazy again |
| 18:57.38 | polyonymous | Although, I'm afraid, my russian is too good for average russian geek. |
| 18:57.46 | Marex | XD |
| 18:58.01 | Marex | polyonymous, thanks |
| 18:58.20 | polyonymous | thanks for what? |
| 18:59.30 | slapin | polyonymous, my russian is worse than my english now, so :) |
| 18:59.43 | slapin | polyonymous, thanks |
| 19:00.40 | polyonymous | slapin, unfortunately, those russian geek don't know russian, anyway. Neither the know english :) Lost case. |
| 19:00.48 | polyonymous | s/geek/geeks/ |
| 19:02.47 | slapin | Marex, I'm not lazy, I have lots to do. I need to finally test this sleep mode thingy... |
| 19:03.05 | slapin | Marex, :-P |
| 19:03.23 | Marex | slapin, you are lazy to test it? I see ... |
| 19:05.47 | slapin | Marex, I'm not |
| 19:06.03 | slapin | Marex, I just wait for volunteers |
| 19:06.23 | Marex | becaues you ARE lazy ... get to live with it ;) |
| 19:06.25 | slapin | Marex, anyway, I need that image with backgrounds working |
| 19:06.36 | slapin | Marex, no, I'm not. |
| 19:06.43 | Marex | slapin, stfu, thanks |
| 19:07.01 | slapin | Marex, not yet |
| 19:28.12 | Marex | m0d0r, http://85.132.236.161/upload/opie-1.2.3-rel.txt |
| 19:31.23 | Darth_Wa1er | ///wi 52 |
| 19:31.26 | Darth_Wa1er | erm |
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| 19:43.45 | lopez-7xx | hi guys? |
| 19:44.44 | lopez-7xx | is possible running opie in x86? |
| 19:45.59 | Marex | sure |
| 19:46.40 | lopez-7xx | hey Marex, you know any "how to" to do this? |
| 19:46.49 | Marex | use OE |
| 19:48.04 | lopez-7xx | thanks |
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| 19:56.45 | Marex | http://www.abclinuxu.cz/zpravicky/open-palmtop-integrated-environment-1.2.3 |
| 19:56.52 | Marex | abclinuxu updated |
| 19:59.14 | Darth_Wa1er | hmm |
| 19:59.19 | Darth_Wa1er | is it already added to OE? |
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| 21:43.57 | Marex | hi bluelightning |
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| 22:02.04 | bluelightning | hi Marex |
| 22:02.07 | bluelightning | what's up? |
| 22:02.31 | Marex | bluelightning, docTab ... |
| 22:02.41 | Marex | it is not as easy as zecke said |
| 22:09.25 | bluelightning | still no announcement either... :/ |
| 22:09.36 | bluelightning | this is getting ridiculous |
| 22:09.37 | Marex | there already is |
| 22:09.47 | bluelightning | eh? I don't see one in my inbox |
| 22:09.47 | Marex | opie.handhelds.org is already updated :B |
| 22:10.18 | Marex | 26.07.07 Opie version 1.2.3 released |
| 22:10.18 | Marex | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.44 | bluelightning | oh, hang on, email is still downloading :o |
| 22:10.50 | Marex | :D |
| 22:10.51 | bluelightning | my bad |
| 22:11.03 | Marex | no problem ;) |
| 22:11.16 | bluelightning | it takes ages now because I get tons of spam |
| 22:11.33 | Marex | damn :T |
| 22:11.40 | Marex | btw I saw your website :B |
| 22:11.56 | bluelightning | bluelightning.org? |
| 22:12.02 | Marex | yeah ;) |
| 22:12.12 | bluelightning | oh right... not much to see there really |
| 22:12.26 | Marex | indeed |
| 22:12.43 | Marex | but BTTF is my favourite movie too ;-) |
| 22:13.47 | Marex | woohoo ... now I have TWO doctabs X-D |
| 22:14.28 | bluelightning | yeah BTTF rocks |
| 22:14.36 | bluelightning | woohoo... I'm sure that's useful :) |
| 22:15.14 | slapin | what is BTTF? |
| 22:15.20 | bluelightning | Back To The Future |
| 22:15.23 | Marex | bluelightning, one on left and one on right ... its so cool :-B |
| 22:15.27 | slapin | ah, yes! |
| 22:15.32 | bluelightning | Marex: stereo! ::D |
| 22:15.40 | Marex | yeah! :D |
| 22:16.38 | slapin | bluelightning, btw, about that bug 1881... |
| 22:16.55 | Marex | np: Johnny B. Goode - Marty McFly and the Starlighters - Back To The Future OST |
| 22:17.06 | Marex | slapin, sheesh :T |
| 22:17.24 | slapin | Marex, ? |
| 22:17.42 | slapin | Marex, I added that to OE anyway. |
| 22:17.59 | Marex | your OE commit access should be revoked for that |
| 22:18.00 | bluelightning | slapin: yep, what about it ? |
| 22:18.16 | Marex | slapin, you should add stuff to mainstream, not abuse OE |
| 22:18.24 | Marex | bluelightning, please commit it ;) |
| 22:18.32 | slapin | bluelightning, commit, yes :) |
| 22:18.36 | bluelightning | Marex: it doesn't matter, it'll go into 1.2.4 and then it can be removed from OE |
| 22:18.39 | bluelightning | yes, I will |
| 22:18.42 | bluelightning | :) |
| 22:18.58 | Marex | bluelightning, yea ... for 1.2.3 is quite late ;) |
| 22:19.33 | Marex | BTTF soundtrack is just perfect ... I cant stop listening to it |
| 22:34.26 | bluelightning | bbl |
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