irclog2html for opie on 2002.08.03

01:16:36Feral_KidI have just inadvertantly installed the qpe stuff (task-familiar-complete)... How rubust and useful is qpe compared to opie? And now I am having a hard time getting rid of the qpe stuff... It is running at the same as opie... Definitely screwing things up!
01:16:56spiralmanqpe isnt in familiar complete, gpe is
01:17:24spiralmangpe isnt as complete, i would say, and its also based on gtk instead of qt, and it runs in X, instead of directly in the framebuffer
01:18:35Feral_KidLooks like I am going to have to re-install the opie root again... And hopefully it will load correctly again... Seems to be some issues when I do a task-opie-complete
01:19:06spiralmanumm, dont do a task-opie-complete
01:19:12spiralmantask-opie-complete is already on it
01:19:52Feral_KidSo I should just do an individual opie package, huh?
01:20:20spiralmanyes, install the individual opie packages that you want that are not already on it
01:20:28spiralmanthere is no point installing stuff that is already there
01:20:46alviseguys ..
01:20:49alvisespiralman: re hi
01:20:56spiralmanalvise: hey
01:21:02alvisespiralman: how can i start the game of opie-pacman ?
01:21:09spiralmanalvise: press space
01:21:24alvisespiralman: of the virtual keyboard ?
01:21:28spiralmanyes
01:21:31alvisethx :)
01:59:08Feral_KidIs there a copy of konqueror available for pre-0.6
01:59:31spiralmanumm, just get it from somewhere else
01:59:37spiralmanopie.handhelds.org feed is good...
02:01:18spiralmanactually, it segfaults ipkg for me
02:01:32spiralmanbut there is also one in one of the older opie.info feeds that did work for me
02:06:16Feral_KidAnd I noticed there is an opie remote... Is that based around lirc?
02:14:30spiralmanyes
03:49:21alvisehi
03:49:31spiralmanhey again : )
03:49:55alvisei lost the image of the original firmware (of ipaq 3870) . Any1 have that ??
03:50:37alvisei think is important because i can't upgrade my wince !
03:50:49alviseis it possible ?
03:51:02spiralmanis what possible?
03:51:09spiralmanyou can restore from a ce rom update
03:52:14spiralmanits technically illegal for somebody to give you their rom image, but you might find somebody who can.  more likely on #handhelds.org or #familiar
03:52:35alvisethx
03:53:22alvisespiralman: i must have that to upgrade my wince ? Because when i have to restart the ipaq , "pressing some buttons" nothing happen
03:54:15rumour has it wince restore is http://www.handhelds.org/projects/wincerestoration.html or http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF
03:54:15spiralmanibot wince restore
03:54:26spiralmanalvise: look there for instructions on restoring from the upgrade files
03:54:33alviseok thx
03:54:53spiralmanalvise: youll need to read the directions from handhelds.org, obviously the microsoft instructions wont work...
03:55:10spiralmanalvise: but why do you want to upgrade ce if you are using linux?
03:56:10alvisespiralman: because i need linux and CE
03:56:32alviseand the version of Ce that i have suks a lot
03:56:36spiralmanout of curiosity, what do you need ce for?
03:56:45spiralmani wouldnt count on the new version being any better...
03:57:52alvisebecause i sync my nokia 7650 in BlueTooth to send image and connect trought gprs , and because i have some programs that i need
03:57:58alviseand Divx player !
03:58:12spiralmanyou can buy tkcvideo that plays divx
03:58:22spiralmanand opieplayer 2 will support it, i think
04:01:08spiralmanalso, have you checked any of the zaurus sites for programs that do what the ce ones do?
04:01:43alviseno
04:01:55alvisemmm ..
04:02:07spiralmantry http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus and www.handango.com
04:04:18alvisespiralman: i bought an SD card .. and on linux doesn't work .. this is another problem
05:24:13VainNihilhey
05:24:16VainNihilhow's everybody?
07:15:07alvisehi
07:15:20alviseis there a support for foldable keyboard ?
07:15:38treke|ho1e#handhelds.org
07:15:57treke|ho1esome are supported
07:16:15alvisei mean "in opie"
10:35:29lanbohey huys. Isn't opie 0.9 slower than the "stable" version (I think it was 0.6)?
10:35:47lanboI get that impression, but that can be only me....
10:36:34lanboIt's like it's a bit unresponsive (it takes more time to reacr after pressing a button)...
10:36:48Harlekinwhy style
10:48:18Harlekinwhich
12:10:51ljphmm i guess I need to commit my changes to xinecontrol
14:27:59Mickey0is leaving for a while...
15:44:49spiralmanis opie's qt/e built with QThread support?
15:47:39drwspiralman: no it's not
15:47:45spiralmandamn
15:55:45spiralmanhrm, threads arent really what i need though (at least, i dont think)
15:56:19spiralmani need one function to stop, while another execution loop runs, and when that is done, the first function has to return...
15:57:14ljp_there's pthreads
15:57:25spiralmanyeah, im probably going to use em
17:41:14lesebneed help....
17:41:27spiralmank
17:41:32lesebtrying to use qtopiadesktop on linux rh7.3
17:41:48lesebcore dump
17:42:00spiralmanhrm...
17:42:08spiralmanyou sure all the libs got linked properly?
17:42:39lesebgdb says the app use qt from my system and not from qtopiadesktop
17:43:24spiralmanhrm, youll probably want to set $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (i think thats the one you want) to wherever the libs are that come with QtopiaDesktop
17:43:35lesebi have two qt 3.0.3 lib : the redhat one is /usr/lib and the qtopiadesktop  one
17:44:06lesebi have set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Qtopia/qtopiadesktop
17:44:20raistlinspiralman: is it possible to use the SD memory stick in the iPAQs (H3800)?
17:44:25lesebbut the /usr/lib qt version is still used
17:44:45Harlekinraistlin: no
17:44:48spiralmanraistlin: no, you have to use an mmc card in that slot.  its not possible to write an open source sd driver
17:44:49Harlekinraistlin: only mmc
17:45:16raistlinmmc?
17:45:37raistlinZaurus can use SD, correct?
17:45:38Harlekinsame look, different hardware
17:45:40spiralmanraistlin: its a different type of card, slower and doesnt have all the content protection crap built in
17:45:44lesebgdb trace : in QTranslator::clear () from /usr/lib/qt-3.0.3/lib/libqt.so.3
17:45:57Harlekinleseb: on qtopiadesktop?
17:46:05raistlinah
17:46:06lesebyes
17:46:14Harlekinhmm
17:46:19Harlekinleseb: its qt3
17:46:21Harlekinleseb: its qt2
17:46:22lesebyes
17:46:25lesebqt3
17:46:31Harlekinqtopia desktop wants 2
17:46:41raistlindoes the zaurus use SD or mmc?
17:46:46Harlekinraistlin: both
17:47:02raistlinI thought the zaurus kernel was open source...
17:47:05lesebqtopia desktop use qt3
17:47:12spiralmanraistlin: the kernel, yes, but not all the drivers
17:47:19raistlinah
17:47:25spiralmanraistlin: and it doesnt fully implement the SD spec anyway
17:47:26lesebi've downloaded it from ftp.trolltech.com
17:47:41spiralmanHarlekin: yeah, qtopiadesktop comes with qt 3 libs
17:47:46raistlinso the Embedix SD driver isn't available?
17:48:00spiralmanraistlin: it wouldnt work on the ipaq anyway, different hardware
17:48:32raistlinthanks
17:49:04raistlinhas anyone had trouble installing teh Bahia Networking Driver?
17:49:14lesebtry to compile it from source, works better: got a window, connection is done but no plugin are displayed
17:49:36lesebis someone using redhat there?
17:49:58Harlekinno, i prefere real linux .-)
17:50:09lesebyou mean suse
17:50:21spiralmanslackware !
17:50:27Harlekindebian
17:50:42Harlekini have a good network connection
17:59:18lesebfinnaly qtopiadesktop is launched but login as root failed
17:59:36spiralmanleseb: are you using the latest feed of opie on your ipaq?
17:59:40lesebyes
17:59:54spiralmanleseb: two messages were just posted to the mailing list about this...
18:00:00spiralmanleseb: i suggest you read them
18:00:19tid-wavehello
18:00:34lesebwhat protocol is used for sync?
18:00:55Harlekinleseb: ftp
18:00:59Harlekinleseb: to get the files
18:01:04Harlekinthe xml files
18:01:09lesebon port 4...?
18:01:11Harlekinthen teh apps itself merge
18:01:14Harlekinleseb: .-)
18:01:23Harlekinleseb: thats why its currently not working with opie
18:01:29Harlekinleseb: except you patch it back
18:01:45Harlekinor use zeckes patch that asks you on root without password
18:01:55tux_mikei really don't think grabbing the XML files is the best way to sync
18:02:24spiralmantux_mike: unfortunately, thats not for us to decide, since its done by the desktop software...
18:02:25Harlekinthats why opie will switch
18:02:40Harlekinand sharp too
18:03:12tux_mikespiralman: well, Kitchensync can change that, just leave the XML file grabbing for Qtopiadesktop
18:03:46lesebargg, no where is the mailing-list archive!!
18:04:41spiralmanleseb: i think handhelds.org is down right now
18:05:08spiralmanleseb:  src opie http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/20021207/
18:05:47lesebok
18:06:13lesebgot another question
18:06:19spiralmank
18:06:30lesebwhat happens when installing an ipkg on sd or cf
18:06:59spiralmanleseb: the files are put on the cf card, and then links are created that point to the files on cf from where they would be if they were installed to /
18:07:04spiralmanleseb: its in the user manual
18:07:15lesebuser manual?
18:07:17spiralmanleseb: also, mailing list archives are back up
18:07:24spiralmanleseb: go to opie.handhelds.org
18:09:06spiralmanleseb: user manual link is on the front page
18:10:00lesebok but here is my problem: i have to include a document into an ipkg
18:10:14tid-wavehelp
18:10:18tid-wavei can't compile opie
18:10:20tid-wavepasswordbase_p.cpp:31: implicit declaration of function `int trUtf8(...)'
18:10:26tid-waveand after that
18:10:31lesebfor zaurus, path is /home/root/Documents/...
18:10:35tid-wavea bunch of error messages like this :
18:10:49tid-wavepasswordbase_p.cpp:101: no matching function for call to `QLabel::setText (int)' /opt/qte/include/qlabel.h:100: candidates are: void QLabel::setText(const QString &)
18:10:58lesebbut when the ipg is installed on sd/cf the document doest appears in doc tab
18:11:56lesebdoest not...
18:12:00spiralmanleseb: are you using oipkg to install to sd/cf?
18:12:24lesebdont know, i gave an ipk to soemone who have a Z
18:12:41spiralmanleseb: ahh, so this is a problem on their device?
18:12:53lesebdont know
18:13:13spiralmanleseb: i think that for them, the links arent being created, because they are not using oipkg.  ipkg will insatll to cf, but it wont create links
18:13:41spiralmanleseb: and qipkg (what comes with the z) doesnt create links (im not even sure you can change the destination in it)
18:13:52tid-waveanyone can help please ?
18:14:01tid-wavei have qt-2.3.2 installed
18:14:01lesebthat explains...
18:15:05spiralmantid-wave: might be broken at the moment (that happens with cvs).  try updating first
18:15:40spiralmantid-wave: then, make sure that its really pointing at the qt/embedded includes (looks like it is)
18:16:12tid-waveit is pointing there
18:16:14tid-wavecvs [update aborted]: received broken pipe signal
18:16:15tid-wavebut
18:16:18tid-wavethat function
18:16:45tid-waveint trUtf8(...)
18:16:53tid-waveis not part of qt right ?
18:17:21spiralmani think it is
18:17:31tid-wavesomething is strange because a lot of packages give this error
18:18:02tid-wavei changed QTDIR to my qt 3.0.5 normal and it doesnt givethis error
18:18:06tid-waveit compiles this file
18:18:13spiralmanhrm
18:18:13tid-wavebut cannot compile others
18:18:22spiralmanwell, it shouldnt be able to
18:18:36spiralmanmaybe that file, but not all of them
18:19:37tid-waveint trUtf8(...) is returning an integer type...and the setText(const QString &) needs a Qstring ...
18:19:47tid-waveit VERY strange
18:19:57tid-wavei don;t think that updating will resolve this problem
18:20:14spiralmanhrm, trUtf8 really should return a string, since its supposed to translate the string
18:20:28spiralmanperhaps your qt headers are broken in some way?
18:20:42tid-wavei don't know
18:20:43spiralmanor maybe zecke's qt3 compatability stuff has gone awry
18:20:51tid-waveno no
18:20:58tid-wavei have qt 2.3.2 embedded
18:21:22tid-wavewhere is the int trUtf8(...) function located ?
18:21:25tid-wavethe header
18:21:31tid-wavei wanna see it
18:21:33spiralmanyes, but zecke did a bunch of stuff to make it compile with qt3, and some of that may have ended up in the qt2 code accidentaly
18:21:43spiralmantid-wave: no idea, check the qt docs
18:22:24tid-wavehowever...opie won't compile neither with qt 3 nor qt2
18:22:27tid-wave:)
18:23:31spiralmantid-wave: yes, if only some of the qt3 stuff ended up in the qt2 code, then it wouldnt compile either way
18:23:51lesebcvs broken?
18:23:58tid-waveleseb:yes
18:23:59spiralmantid-wave: qt2 code would choke on qt3 stuff, and qt3 code would choke on lack of qt3 stuff
18:24:03spiralmanleseb: possibly
18:24:25tid-wavei can't find any trUtf8(...) function in qt headers
18:24:35tid-wavei've orded a search with mc
18:24:43tid-wavespiralman:can you do the same thing ?
18:24:51tid-wavesearch the headers for that word
18:25:58spiralmantid-wave: nope
18:26:23tid-waveyou can't or you didn't find it ?
18:26:42spiralmantid-wave: not there, couldnt find it
18:26:57tid-waveyou see...told you
18:27:17tid-wavei can't find it in opie dir :)))
18:27:25tid-wavei can't find it anywhere
18:27:59spiralmantid-wave: i guess some qt3 code got in there by mistake
18:27:59tid-wavecan you search for it in OPIEDIR ?
18:28:25spiralmantid-wave: you shoudl be able to change it to tr() and itll work
18:29:22spiralmantid-wave: no, its not in my opiedir either, but my opie source is kinda old
18:29:35drwspiralman:  I did an update and rebuild about 4 hours ago and had no problems
18:30:02spiralmanhrm, then i dont know where its from, cause i think zecke finished his qt3 port a few days ago
18:30:54drwspiralman:  He sent a patch to the mailing list, but don't think he updated CVS (Head at least)
18:31:09tid-wavespiralman:it works !!!!!!
18:31:28spiralmandrw: hrm, wonder where it came from then
18:31:45tid-wavesome time ago i did a ./configure -qt3
18:31:51tid-wavebut after that i did a cvs up
18:31:53tid-waveso...
18:31:56tid-wavei don't know
18:32:12spiralmantid-wave: it might have been the ./configure -qt3
18:32:14drwtid-wave: that's probably the problem
18:32:16tid-waveyesterday was my last update
18:32:26spiralmantid-wave: you have to rerun configure...
18:32:33tid-wavebut i did the ./configure some days ago
18:32:38drwDoing an update won't change the Makefiles you created
18:32:40tid-waveyesterday i did a cvs up
18:32:48drwwith configure
18:32:51spiralmantid-wave: the files created by ./configure arent in cvs
18:32:51tid-waveand today i did a configure
18:32:53tid-wave!!!!
18:33:00spiralmantid-wave: so a cvs up wont touch them
18:33:17tid-wavehowever the Makefiles are ok !! the source files are ruined !!!
18:33:20spiralmantid-wave: configure script might have cached something wrong then
18:33:24tid-wavethe .cpp are not good
18:33:38tid-waveand 1 hour ago i did a make clean and ./configure
18:34:05tid-wavei guess that ./configure will not change the source files
18:34:17spiralmantid-wave: make clean doesnt remove the files ./configure creates either
18:34:45spiralmantid-wave: and what itll do is change whats defined, so things that wouldnt be compiled in due to #ifndef statements will be compiled in
18:42:38spiralmanis it safe to use pthreads to fork to another member function in a class that exists in the main thread already?
18:45:46tid-wave"exists in the main thread" ???
18:46:07spiralmanok, i have a class called someclass with two functions in it: func1 and func2
18:46:13spiralmancan i, in func1, fork to func2
18:46:16spiralman?
18:46:45spiralmanand will func2 still have access to all the variables that it would have if it wasnt a part of a separate thread
18:46:46tid-wavewhy not ? i think yes
18:47:16tid-wavethe class is not part of any thread ...
18:47:30tid-waveso i think the function can access the class
18:47:57spiralmanwell, the class is instantiated in the main thread
18:48:06spiralmanits a specific instance of the class
18:48:17spiralmanim calling class->func1, not class::func1
18:48:32raistlinhi again
18:48:55spiralmanraistlin: hey
18:50:31tid-wavei don't think it's important in which thread you declare a class
18:50:46spiralmantid-wave: the problem that im forseeing is that the instance of "class" is a private variable of the main thread, and will func2 which is in a thread of its own still have access to **that instance** of class, or will it be some other instance, and thus any private variables of the class would be at their default values
18:51:05raistlinI was wondering if someone could help me configure USB networking for WinXP -> iPAQ
18:51:40tid-wavedeclare the class static
18:52:02spiralmanraistlin: first, this isnt the correct channel for that.  second did you read the handhelds.org wiki page on usb networking? it has info on using the bahia driver
18:53:30raistlinspiralman: sorry. Yes I have read it all... Where is the right channel? I'm having trouble with the Bahia driver
18:53:32raistlinis all
18:53:32spiralmanraistlin: im not trying to be stuck up about which channel you are in, but its to your advantage to ask in #handhelds.org because there are likely to be more people who might be able to help
18:53:44raistlinno problem. thanks!
18:55:31tid-wavespiralman:i don't know if it is safe
18:55:50tid-wavespiralman:if you decalre the class static the thread shouldn't have access to it
18:55:57tid-waveso it is not safe
18:56:04spiralmank
18:56:11spiralmanill have to come up with some other way of doing it
18:56:21tid-wavewhat do you want to do ?
18:56:39spiralmani need the second thread to have access to some variables from the first thread
18:57:00tid-wavethan make the variables global
18:57:04tid-waveand it should work
18:57:07spiralmansome of them are private to the class that i am forking from though
18:57:09tid-wavethen
18:57:13tid-wavenot than ...
18:57:24tid-wavei'm always messing with these words :)
18:57:50ljpyou'd like with all the cars I'd owned in my life, I could keep track of the titles better.. hmmmpft
18:58:02Harlekintitles?
18:58:24tid-wavespiralman:it's easy...pass the pointers to the variables with the thread call
18:58:38tid-wave:)
18:58:59ljpa title is a govn't certificate of ownership
18:59:10ljpreplaceable, but stilll...
18:59:27ljpit's registered anyway..
18:59:49ljpwonder how I can get opie installed in that Fiero... :D
18:59:55spiralmantid-wave: so just have some global variables, and before i call the new thread, set the globals to the private variables?
19:00:18spiralmanif qtextbrowser wasnt so braindead, i wouldnt even have to mess with threads
19:01:02tid-wavespiralman:no...you create a local class variable and when you create a thread you pass a structure containing the pointers to the variables
19:01:04ljpwe also have to have a car title to transfer ownership
19:01:34Harlekinah
19:01:39Harlekin"Fahrzeugbrief"
19:01:40ljpI know I threw it on the table 3 years ago when I bought the damn thing...
19:03:08spiralmantid-wave: hrm, im not following you there...
19:04:04tid-wave...it's strange for me since i don't know what you want to do...
19:04:11spiralmanhrm
19:04:30tid-wavebut if you want to modify variables within a thread you pass their addreses within a structure
19:04:50tid-wavewith a structure
19:05:17spiralmanok, ive got a class called HttpFactory, and another class called HttpComm.  HttpComm needs to have access to some variables from HttpFactory, but it also needs to be executed in a separate thread.
19:06:08spiralmani need it to be in a separate thread because one of the functions in HttpFactory, needs to return a value that it gets from HttpComm, but HttpComm gets it through a series of signals and slots
19:06:09tid-waveyou make the HttpFactory global
19:06:42spiralmanok
19:07:08spiralmanunfortunately, im still not even sure if HttpComm's signals and slots will work correctly in the separate thread : (
19:07:50spiralmanand id be using QThread, but its not compiled into the qt libs that opie uses...
19:08:23tid-waveit doesn't hurt to try
19:08:30tid-wavetry to see if it workd
19:24:59tid-wavedoes anyone know where is the tr() function located ?? in which header
19:25:10lesebin qobject
19:25:55tid-waveyeap
19:25:57tid-wavefound it
19:26:11tid-waveand how to link it to trUtf8 ?
19:26:20lesebif your class doest herit QObject, use QObject::tr
19:26:34lesebtrUtf8 is in qt3 not in qt2
19:26:44tid-waveyes... i know
19:26:46tid-wavebut
19:27:00tid-wavei can't compile opie
19:27:03tid-wavewithou trUtf8
19:27:11tid-waveand there are to many replacements to be done
19:27:15tid-wavein to many files
19:28:02lesebinstall kfilereplace
19:32:20tid-wavewhere can i get it ?
19:32:48leseb kfilereplace.sf.net
19:32:50HarlekintrUtf8 <- why
19:33:24tid-wavetrUtf8 is a function in qt3 but i have qt2.3.2
19:33:33tid-waveand the cvs source is messed up
19:34:10Harlekinso what for do you need it
19:34:24tid-waveto compile the source
19:34:29tid-waveit gives an error
19:34:32spiralmanHarlekin: a bunch of the code in opie's cvs calls trUtf8 now
19:34:35tid-wavethat it can't find that function
19:34:38tid-waveand many others
19:34:47tid-waveyes
19:34:48Harlekinspiralman: ?
19:34:49tid-waveexactly
19:34:50Harlekinspiralman: WHY?
19:34:55spiralmanHarlekin: we dont know
19:34:59Harlekinohoh
19:35:05Harlekingcc3 changes
19:35:13Harlekinspiralman: which excectly?
19:35:19spiralmanHarlekin: ask tid-wave
19:35:32tid-waveHarlekin:i have gcc 2
19:35:33tid-waveand
19:35:40tid-wavein opie/library for example
19:36:01tid-wavethere is a file called passwordbase_p.cpp
19:37:31tid-wavethat is generated at make process by
19:37:35tid-waveuic
19:37:37tid-wavei think
19:38:23Harlekincould it be that you have the "wrong" uic?
19:38:33drwWrong ver of uic
19:38:57tid-waveugh
19:38:58tid-waveyes
19:39:01tid-wavethat's it
19:39:02tid-waveDAMN
19:39:09tid-wavehow can i make a new one ?
19:39:21tid-wavewithout compiling the entre qt
19:39:29tid-wavei still have the source and the objects
19:40:23Harlekintid-wave: email addr?
19:40:25Harlekini send you one
19:40:27drwdownload qt-2.3.2, do a configure, then go into src/tools/uic and do a make
19:40:28raistlinanyone know where to find libuuid1?
19:40:33tid-wavenecroroot@alphanet.ro
19:40:45spiralmanraistlin: e2fsprogs
19:40:57tid-wavespiralman:a lot of ppl asked for that...
19:41:11raistlinit's part of e2fsprogs? what is libuuid1 exactly?
19:42:07Harlekinunique id lib
19:43:42raistlinthe latest opie-taskbar package  complains about this
19:43:52raistlinand I already have e2fsprogs installed
19:44:15Harlekine2fsprogs-libuuid
19:44:34raistlinfamiliar v0.5.3?
19:44:47tid-waveHarlekin:thanks for the uic
19:44:53Harlekinnp
19:44:58Harlekintid-wave: try with that please
19:45:04Harlekinand do a make clean first
19:45:04Harlekin,)
19:45:12tid-waveyeap i'm doing it now
19:46:03tid-wavehow can i build individually ? i don't want everything
19:48:21drwtid-wave: after you configure, go into each directory you want and do a make
19:53:39tid-wavespiralman:how to make a new uic for qt-2.3.2 if i have qt 3 installed ?
19:54:51spiralmantid-wave: youll have to modify the $PATH variable to point to the qt2.3.2 uic and not the qt3 one
19:55:20tid-waveyes but i don;t even have the uic
19:55:24tid-wavehow to build it ?
19:55:31tid-wavewithout building the entire qt
19:57:52spiralmantid-wave: dont know, look at the qt source, you may be able to cd into its directory and run make
19:59:54tid-waveis there any way of building uic if i have qt 3 normal and qt 2.3.2 embedded ?
20:00:42spiralmantid-wave: yes, build it from 2.3.2 embedded source
20:00:46raistlinhas anyone had trouble saving information using the Text Editor?
20:00:56tid-wavespiralman:HOW ?
20:00:57spiralmantid-wave: when you built 2.3.2 it should have been built along with it
20:01:04tid-wavenow it is not
20:01:16tid-wavei've built that and it is not there
20:01:36spiralmantid-wave: it really should be there
20:01:48tid-wavewell...it is NOT
20:01:54spiralmantid-wave: where are you looking?
20:02:15tid-wavein /usr/src/qt-2.3.2/bin
20:02:31spiralmantid-wave: cd into /usr/src/qt-2.3.2/tools and run make
20:03:00tid-wavenothing to be done for all
20:03:05tid-wavesomething like that
20:03:08spiralmanrun make clean first then
20:03:08tid-wavemessage
20:03:15tid-wavei did it
20:03:17tid-waveand nothing
20:03:19tid-wave...
20:04:39spiralmantid-wave: might be in src/tools
20:05:06tid-waveonly headers there
20:06:33spiralmantid-wave: ok, its in tools/designer/uic
20:07:04tid-waveyes it's there...the source
20:07:29spiralmantid-wave: there is a makefile in there, you should be able to just run make
20:07:36tid-wavenope
20:07:41tid-wavenothing to be don
20:07:48spiralmantid-wave: touch *
20:08:32spiralmantid-wave: then run make
20:08:35tid-wavei don't have libqutil
20:08:44tid-wavei need that
20:08:55spiralmanahh
20:09:26spiralmani think youll find it much easier to just rebuilt qt
20:09:34tid-wavewhich qt ?
20:09:38spiralman2.3.2
20:09:55tid-wavei only have the embedded
20:10:12spiralmanyes, i know
20:10:19spiralmandoesnt matter itll still get built
20:10:34tid-wavedamn...i did build that
20:10:38tid-waveand i can't see any uic
20:54:51tid-waveit works yes
20:54:54tid-wave:)
20:55:00tid-wavei've built that uic
20:55:02tid-wave:)
20:55:07spiralmanspiffy
20:55:29tid-waveit doesn't give any errors now
20:55:34tid-wavei have a question
20:55:41spiralmanyeah?
20:55:41tid-waveon my ipaq 3600
20:55:47tid-wavewhen i play a sound
20:55:57tid-wavei hear a strange noise at startup
20:56:00tid-wavea short one
20:56:12tid-wavea bRRRRRR
20:56:14spiralmanwhat application are you using to play the sound?
20:56:26tid-waveopie-player
20:56:35spiralmanmight be a buffer thing, not sure
20:56:37tid-wavehowever
20:56:45tid-waveit's the sound recorded by vmemo
20:56:52spiralmanoh
20:56:52tid-wavewav file
20:56:53tid-waveand
20:56:55tid-waveanother thing
20:57:06tid-waveif i click to hear the taps and the key clicks
20:57:12tid-wavei can hear the sound
20:57:31tid-wavebut if i press often a key one adter another the volume turns higher
20:57:44spiralmanhrm, not sure.  talk to ljp about it, hes the one whos done the most work on the sound stuff i think
20:57:44tid-waveif i pause and click again it' normal
20:57:45tid-wave:)
20:58:43tid-wavetoo bad that ipaq hasn't got a mic input
20:58:50tid-waveor some audio input
20:58:56tid-waveonly a mic
21:00:16ljphmm
21:00:27tid-wavezaurus has one right ?
21:00:37tid-wavebut zaurus hasn't got a speaker :)
21:00:37ljpya don tuse click sounds when using vmemo
21:01:15ljpmy zaurus has a mic
21:01:26ljpAND a mic input
21:01:42tid-waveljp: but it doesn't have a speaker
21:01:45tid-waveright ?
21:01:55ljpkinda... sorta... yess.. no...
21:02:02tid-wave:))
21:02:14ljpthe speaker 'buzzer' only plays a few sounds
21:02:41ljpkergoth is trying to make it be able to play real sounds
21:02:53tid-wavei've read that the life of the zaurus is very short...he battery life
21:03:26tid-waveljp: ipaq has a sound output and a sound speaker...
21:03:38tid-wavei can play real sounds on it
21:03:43ljpnice
21:03:47tid-wavebut i don;t have a mic input
21:03:49tid-waveand that SUX
21:03:59ljpbut it has a mic right?
21:04:03tid-waveyeah
21:04:40tid-wavei prefer an input rather than a mic
21:04:45spiralmanyou could probably open the ipaq up and replace the mic with a mic input, if you knew what you were doing
21:04:55ljpahh.. better sound quality, no doubt
21:05:18tid-wavespiralman:i have no place for extra wires
21:05:20spiralmanand the builtin speaker really isnt all that usefull except for some really basic stuff.  i wouldnt want to listen to music on it, or anything
21:05:27tid-wavethe hole for the mic is too small
21:05:39spiralmantid-wave: youd have to mod the case as well
21:06:20tid-wavespiralman: an ipaq without mic input it's better than a ruined ipaq :))))
21:06:39spiralmantid-wave: i wasnt suggesting you do it, was just saying it might be possible
21:06:53tid-waveyeah i know
21:07:33tid-wavei love this ipaq... i didn't even know how nice this small things are...
21:09:45tid-wavei had showimg running in my qvfb :)))
21:11:00tid-wavewhat do i have to build in order to have the file selection dialog ?
21:11:53spiralmanits in libopie
21:12:11tid-wavehmm
21:12:22spiralmantid-wave: why arent you using the feed?
21:12:46tid-waveon my ipaq even if i click the open icon in showimg the dialog won't appear
21:12:51tid-wavebecause i wan't to develop
21:13:15tid-waveat least try
21:13:27spiralmanahh.  i use a prebuilt opie on my ipaq, and then just develop off of libopie...
21:13:32tid-wavei'm not going to build opie to run on ipaq :))))
21:14:26tid-wavei don't understand why open doesn't work in showimg
21:15:55spiralmantid-wave: it only allows you to open whats in the documents tab
21:16:01tid-waveyeah
21:16:04tid-wavei see :)
22:45:59Xentacquestion... is there an irda control program that sits in the Settings menu, instead of on the appletbar?
22:46:21ljpno, but there should be
22:46:33Xentacok... who do I bug about it? ;o)
22:47:56ljphmm not sure.. might want to ask to th emaillist
22:48:40Xentacok... I'll ask once I get around to it
23:48:54spiralmanis away: out for the night
23:49:24MickeyLis leaving for a while...

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