| 01:16:36 | Feral_Kid | I have just inadvertantly installed the qpe stuff (task-familiar-complete)... How rubust and useful is qpe compared to opie? And now I am having a hard time getting rid of the qpe stuff... It is running at the same as opie... Definitely screwing things up! |
| 01:16:56 | spiralman | qpe isnt in familiar complete, gpe is |
| 01:17:24 | spiralman | gpe isnt as complete, i would say, and its also based on gtk instead of qt, and it runs in X, instead of directly in the framebuffer |
| 01:18:35 | Feral_Kid | Looks like I am going to have to re-install the opie root again... And hopefully it will load correctly again... Seems to be some issues when I do a task-opie-complete |
| 01:19:06 | spiralman | umm, dont do a task-opie-complete |
| 01:19:12 | spiralman | task-opie-complete is already on it |
| 01:19:52 | Feral_Kid | So I should just do an individual opie package, huh? |
| 01:20:20 | spiralman | yes, install the individual opie packages that you want that are not already on it |
| 01:20:28 | spiralman | there is no point installing stuff that is already there |
| 01:20:46 | alvise | guys .. |
| 01:20:49 | alvise | spiralman: re hi |
| 01:20:56 | spiralman | alvise: hey |
| 01:21:02 | alvise | spiralman: how can i start the game of opie-pacman ? |
| 01:21:09 | spiralman | alvise: press space |
| 01:21:24 | alvise | spiralman: of the virtual keyboard ? |
| 01:21:28 | spiralman | yes |
| 01:21:31 | alvise | thx :) |
| 01:59:08 | Feral_Kid | Is there a copy of konqueror available for pre-0.6 |
| 01:59:31 | spiralman | umm, just get it from somewhere else |
| 01:59:37 | spiralman | opie.handhelds.org feed is good... |
| 02:01:18 | spiralman | actually, it segfaults ipkg for me |
| 02:01:32 | spiralman | but there is also one in one of the older opie.info feeds that did work for me |
| 02:06:16 | Feral_Kid | And I noticed there is an opie remote... Is that based around lirc? |
| 02:14:30 | spiralman | yes |
| 03:49:21 | alvise | hi |
| 03:49:31 | spiralman | hey again : ) |
| 03:49:55 | alvise | i lost the image of the original firmware (of ipaq 3870) . Any1 have that ?? |
| 03:50:37 | alvise | i think is important because i can't upgrade my wince ! |
| 03:50:49 | alvise | is it possible ? |
| 03:51:02 | spiralman | is what possible? |
| 03:51:09 | spiralman | you can restore from a ce rom update |
| 03:52:14 | spiralman | its technically illegal for somebody to give you their rom image, but you might find somebody who can. more likely on #handhelds.org or #familiar |
| 03:52:35 | alvise | thx |
| 03:53:22 | alvise | spiralman: i must have that to upgrade my wince ? Because when i have to restart the ipaq , "pressing some buttons" nothing happen |
| 03:54:15 | | rumour has it wince restore is http://www.handhelds.org/projects/wincerestoration.html or http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF |
| 03:54:15 | spiralman | ibot wince restore |
| 03:54:26 | spiralman | alvise: look there for instructions on restoring from the upgrade files |
| 03:54:33 | alvise | ok thx |
| 03:54:53 | spiralman | alvise: youll need to read the directions from handhelds.org, obviously the microsoft instructions wont work... |
| 03:55:10 | spiralman | alvise: but why do you want to upgrade ce if you are using linux? |
| 03:56:10 | alvise | spiralman: because i need linux and CE |
| 03:56:32 | alvise | and the version of Ce that i have suks a lot |
| 03:56:36 | spiralman | out of curiosity, what do you need ce for? |
| 03:56:45 | spiralman | i wouldnt count on the new version being any better... |
| 03:57:52 | alvise | because i sync my nokia 7650 in BlueTooth to send image and connect trought gprs , and because i have some programs that i need |
| 03:57:58 | alvise | and Divx player ! |
| 03:58:12 | spiralman | you can buy tkcvideo that plays divx |
| 03:58:22 | spiralman | and opieplayer 2 will support it, i think |
| 04:01:08 | spiralman | also, have you checked any of the zaurus sites for programs that do what the ce ones do? |
| 04:01:43 | alvise | no |
| 04:01:55 | alvise | mmm .. |
| 04:02:07 | spiralman | try http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus and www.handango.com |
| 04:04:18 | alvise | spiralman: i bought an SD card .. and on linux doesn't work .. this is another problem |
| 05:24:13 | VainNihil | hey |
| 05:24:16 | VainNihil | how's everybody? |
| 07:15:07 | alvise | hi |
| 07:15:20 | alvise | is there a support for foldable keyboard ? |
| 07:15:38 | treke|ho1e | #handhelds.org |
| 07:15:57 | treke|ho1e | some are supported |
| 07:16:15 | alvise | i mean "in opie" |
| 10:35:29 | lanbo | hey huys. Isn't opie 0.9 slower than the "stable" version (I think it was 0.6)? |
| 10:35:47 | lanbo | I get that impression, but that can be only me.... |
| 10:36:34 | lanbo | It's like it's a bit unresponsive (it takes more time to reacr after pressing a button)... |
| 10:36:48 | Harlekin | why style |
| 10:48:18 | Harlekin | which |
| 12:10:51 | ljp | hmm i guess I need to commit my changes to xinecontrol |
| 14:27:59 | Mickey0 | is leaving for a while... |
| 15:44:49 | spiralman | is opie's qt/e built with QThread support? |
| 15:47:39 | drw | spiralman: no it's not |
| 15:47:45 | spiralman | damn |
| 15:55:45 | spiralman | hrm, threads arent really what i need though (at least, i dont think) |
| 15:56:19 | spiralman | i need one function to stop, while another execution loop runs, and when that is done, the first function has to return... |
| 15:57:14 | ljp_ | there's pthreads |
| 15:57:25 | spiralman | yeah, im probably going to use em |
| 17:41:14 | leseb | need help.... |
| 17:41:27 | spiralman | k |
| 17:41:32 | leseb | trying to use qtopiadesktop on linux rh7.3 |
| 17:41:48 | leseb | core dump |
| 17:42:00 | spiralman | hrm... |
| 17:42:08 | spiralman | you sure all the libs got linked properly? |
| 17:42:39 | leseb | gdb says the app use qt from my system and not from qtopiadesktop |
| 17:43:24 | spiralman | hrm, youll probably want to set $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (i think thats the one you want) to wherever the libs are that come with QtopiaDesktop |
| 17:43:35 | leseb | i have two qt 3.0.3 lib : the redhat one is /usr/lib and the qtopiadesktop one |
| 17:44:06 | leseb | i have set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Qtopia/qtopiadesktop |
| 17:44:20 | raistlin | spiralman: is it possible to use the SD memory stick in the iPAQs (H3800)? |
| 17:44:25 | leseb | but the /usr/lib qt version is still used |
| 17:44:45 | Harlekin | raistlin: no |
| 17:44:48 | spiralman | raistlin: no, you have to use an mmc card in that slot. its not possible to write an open source sd driver |
| 17:44:49 | Harlekin | raistlin: only mmc |
| 17:45:16 | raistlin | mmc? |
| 17:45:37 | raistlin | Zaurus can use SD, correct? |
| 17:45:38 | Harlekin | same look, different hardware |
| 17:45:40 | spiralman | raistlin: its a different type of card, slower and doesnt have all the content protection crap built in |
| 17:45:44 | leseb | gdb trace : in QTranslator::clear () from /usr/lib/qt-3.0.3/lib/libqt.so.3 |
| 17:45:57 | Harlekin | leseb: on qtopiadesktop? |
| 17:46:05 | raistlin | ah |
| 17:46:06 | leseb | yes |
| 17:46:14 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 17:46:19 | Harlekin | leseb: its qt3 |
| 17:46:21 | Harlekin | leseb: its qt2 |
| 17:46:22 | leseb | yes |
| 17:46:25 | leseb | qt3 |
| 17:46:31 | Harlekin | qtopia desktop wants 2 |
| 17:46:41 | raistlin | does the zaurus use SD or mmc? |
| 17:46:46 | Harlekin | raistlin: both |
| 17:47:02 | raistlin | I thought the zaurus kernel was open source... |
| 17:47:05 | leseb | qtopia desktop use qt3 |
| 17:47:12 | spiralman | raistlin: the kernel, yes, but not all the drivers |
| 17:47:19 | raistlin | ah |
| 17:47:25 | spiralman | raistlin: and it doesnt fully implement the SD spec anyway |
| 17:47:26 | leseb | i've downloaded it from ftp.trolltech.com |
| 17:47:41 | spiralman | Harlekin: yeah, qtopiadesktop comes with qt 3 libs |
| 17:47:46 | raistlin | so the Embedix SD driver isn't available? |
| 17:48:00 | spiralman | raistlin: it wouldnt work on the ipaq anyway, different hardware |
| 17:48:32 | raistlin | thanks |
| 17:49:04 | raistlin | has anyone had trouble installing teh Bahia Networking Driver? |
| 17:49:14 | leseb | try to compile it from source, works better: got a window, connection is done but no plugin are displayed |
| 17:49:36 | leseb | is someone using redhat there? |
| 17:49:58 | Harlekin | no, i prefere real linux .-) |
| 17:50:09 | leseb | you mean suse |
| 17:50:21 | spiralman | slackware ! |
| 17:50:27 | Harlekin | debian |
| 17:50:42 | Harlekin | i have a good network connection |
| 17:59:18 | leseb | finnaly qtopiadesktop is launched but login as root failed |
| 17:59:36 | spiralman | leseb: are you using the latest feed of opie on your ipaq? |
| 17:59:40 | leseb | yes |
| 17:59:54 | spiralman | leseb: two messages were just posted to the mailing list about this... |
| 18:00:00 | spiralman | leseb: i suggest you read them |
| 18:00:19 | tid-wave | hello |
| 18:00:34 | leseb | what protocol is used for sync? |
| 18:00:55 | Harlekin | leseb: ftp |
| 18:00:59 | Harlekin | leseb: to get the files |
| 18:01:04 | Harlekin | the xml files |
| 18:01:09 | leseb | on port 4...? |
| 18:01:11 | Harlekin | then teh apps itself merge |
| 18:01:14 | Harlekin | leseb: .-) |
| 18:01:23 | Harlekin | leseb: thats why its currently not working with opie |
| 18:01:29 | Harlekin | leseb: except you patch it back |
| 18:01:45 | Harlekin | or use zeckes patch that asks you on root without password |
| 18:01:55 | tux_mike | i really don't think grabbing the XML files is the best way to sync |
| 18:02:24 | spiralman | tux_mike: unfortunately, thats not for us to decide, since its done by the desktop software... |
| 18:02:25 | Harlekin | thats why opie will switch |
| 18:02:40 | Harlekin | and sharp too |
| 18:03:12 | tux_mike | spiralman: well, Kitchensync can change that, just leave the XML file grabbing for Qtopiadesktop |
| 18:03:46 | leseb | argg, no where is the mailing-list archive!! |
| 18:04:41 | spiralman | leseb: i think handhelds.org is down right now |
| 18:05:08 | spiralman | leseb: src opie http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/20021207/ |
| 18:05:47 | leseb | ok |
| 18:06:13 | leseb | got another question |
| 18:06:19 | spiralman | k |
| 18:06:30 | leseb | what happens when installing an ipkg on sd or cf |
| 18:06:59 | spiralman | leseb: the files are put on the cf card, and then links are created that point to the files on cf from where they would be if they were installed to / |
| 18:07:04 | spiralman | leseb: its in the user manual |
| 18:07:15 | leseb | user manual? |
| 18:07:17 | spiralman | leseb: also, mailing list archives are back up |
| 18:07:24 | spiralman | leseb: go to opie.handhelds.org |
| 18:09:06 | spiralman | leseb: user manual link is on the front page |
| 18:10:00 | leseb | ok but here is my problem: i have to include a document into an ipkg |
| 18:10:14 | tid-wave | help |
| 18:10:18 | tid-wave | i can't compile opie |
| 18:10:20 | tid-wave | passwordbase_p.cpp:31: implicit declaration of function `int trUtf8(...)' |
| 18:10:26 | tid-wave | and after that |
| 18:10:31 | leseb | for zaurus, path is /home/root/Documents/... |
| 18:10:35 | tid-wave | a bunch of error messages like this : |
| 18:10:49 | tid-wave | passwordbase_p.cpp:101: no matching function for call to `QLabel::setText (int)' /opt/qte/include/qlabel.h:100: candidates are: void QLabel::setText(const QString &) |
| 18:10:58 | leseb | but when the ipg is installed on sd/cf the document doest appears in doc tab |
| 18:11:56 | leseb | doest not... |
| 18:12:00 | spiralman | leseb: are you using oipkg to install to sd/cf? |
| 18:12:24 | leseb | dont know, i gave an ipk to soemone who have a Z |
| 18:12:41 | spiralman | leseb: ahh, so this is a problem on their device? |
| 18:12:53 | leseb | dont know |
| 18:13:13 | spiralman | leseb: i think that for them, the links arent being created, because they are not using oipkg. ipkg will insatll to cf, but it wont create links |
| 18:13:41 | spiralman | leseb: and qipkg (what comes with the z) doesnt create links (im not even sure you can change the destination in it) |
| 18:13:52 | tid-wave | anyone can help please ? |
| 18:14:01 | tid-wave | i have qt-2.3.2 installed |
| 18:14:01 | leseb | that explains... |
| 18:15:05 | spiralman | tid-wave: might be broken at the moment (that happens with cvs). try updating first |
| 18:15:40 | spiralman | tid-wave: then, make sure that its really pointing at the qt/embedded includes (looks like it is) |
| 18:16:12 | tid-wave | it is pointing there |
| 18:16:14 | tid-wave | cvs [update aborted]: received broken pipe signal |
| 18:16:15 | tid-wave | but |
| 18:16:18 | tid-wave | that function |
| 18:16:45 | tid-wave | int trUtf8(...) |
| 18:16:53 | tid-wave | is not part of qt right ? |
| 18:17:21 | spiralman | i think it is |
| 18:17:31 | tid-wave | something is strange because a lot of packages give this error |
| 18:18:02 | tid-wave | i changed QTDIR to my qt 3.0.5 normal and it doesnt givethis error |
| 18:18:06 | tid-wave | it compiles this file |
| 18:18:13 | spiralman | hrm |
| 18:18:13 | tid-wave | but cannot compile others |
| 18:18:22 | spiralman | well, it shouldnt be able to |
| 18:18:36 | spiralman | maybe that file, but not all of them |
| 18:19:37 | tid-wave | int trUtf8(...) is returning an integer type...and the setText(const QString &) needs a Qstring ... |
| 18:19:47 | tid-wave | it VERY strange |
| 18:19:57 | tid-wave | i don;t think that updating will resolve this problem |
| 18:20:14 | spiralman | hrm, trUtf8 really should return a string, since its supposed to translate the string |
| 18:20:28 | spiralman | perhaps your qt headers are broken in some way? |
| 18:20:42 | tid-wave | i don't know |
| 18:20:43 | spiralman | or maybe zecke's qt3 compatability stuff has gone awry |
| 18:20:51 | tid-wave | no no |
| 18:20:58 | tid-wave | i have qt 2.3.2 embedded |
| 18:21:22 | tid-wave | where is the int trUtf8(...) function located ? |
| 18:21:25 | tid-wave | the header |
| 18:21:31 | tid-wave | i wanna see it |
| 18:21:33 | spiralman | yes, but zecke did a bunch of stuff to make it compile with qt3, and some of that may have ended up in the qt2 code accidentaly |
| 18:21:43 | spiralman | tid-wave: no idea, check the qt docs |
| 18:22:24 | tid-wave | however...opie won't compile neither with qt 3 nor qt2 |
| 18:22:27 | tid-wave | :) |
| 18:23:31 | spiralman | tid-wave: yes, if only some of the qt3 stuff ended up in the qt2 code, then it wouldnt compile either way |
| 18:23:51 | leseb | cvs broken? |
| 18:23:58 | tid-wave | leseb:yes |
| 18:23:59 | spiralman | tid-wave: qt2 code would choke on qt3 stuff, and qt3 code would choke on lack of qt3 stuff |
| 18:24:03 | spiralman | leseb: possibly |
| 18:24:25 | tid-wave | i can't find any trUtf8(...) function in qt headers |
| 18:24:35 | tid-wave | i've orded a search with mc |
| 18:24:43 | tid-wave | spiralman:can you do the same thing ? |
| 18:24:51 | tid-wave | search the headers for that word |
| 18:25:58 | spiralman | tid-wave: nope |
| 18:26:23 | tid-wave | you can't or you didn't find it ? |
| 18:26:42 | spiralman | tid-wave: not there, couldnt find it |
| 18:26:57 | tid-wave | you see...told you |
| 18:27:17 | tid-wave | i can't find it in opie dir :))) |
| 18:27:25 | tid-wave | i can't find it anywhere |
| 18:27:59 | spiralman | tid-wave: i guess some qt3 code got in there by mistake |
| 18:27:59 | tid-wave | can you search for it in OPIEDIR ? |
| 18:28:25 | spiralman | tid-wave: you shoudl be able to change it to tr() and itll work |
| 18:29:22 | spiralman | tid-wave: no, its not in my opiedir either, but my opie source is kinda old |
| 18:29:35 | drw | spiralman: I did an update and rebuild about 4 hours ago and had no problems |
| 18:30:02 | spiralman | hrm, then i dont know where its from, cause i think zecke finished his qt3 port a few days ago |
| 18:30:54 | drw | spiralman: He sent a patch to the mailing list, but don't think he updated CVS (Head at least) |
| 18:31:09 | tid-wave | spiralman:it works !!!!!! |
| 18:31:28 | spiralman | drw: hrm, wonder where it came from then |
| 18:31:45 | tid-wave | some time ago i did a ./configure -qt3 |
| 18:31:51 | tid-wave | but after that i did a cvs up |
| 18:31:53 | tid-wave | so... |
| 18:31:56 | tid-wave | i don't know |
| 18:32:12 | spiralman | tid-wave: it might have been the ./configure -qt3 |
| 18:32:14 | drw | tid-wave: that's probably the problem |
| 18:32:16 | tid-wave | yesterday was my last update |
| 18:32:26 | spiralman | tid-wave: you have to rerun configure... |
| 18:32:33 | tid-wave | but i did the ./configure some days ago |
| 18:32:38 | drw | Doing an update won't change the Makefiles you created |
| 18:32:40 | tid-wave | yesterday i did a cvs up |
| 18:32:48 | drw | with configure |
| 18:32:51 | spiralman | tid-wave: the files created by ./configure arent in cvs |
| 18:32:51 | tid-wave | and today i did a configure |
| 18:32:53 | tid-wave | !!!! |
| 18:33:00 | spiralman | tid-wave: so a cvs up wont touch them |
| 18:33:17 | tid-wave | however the Makefiles are ok !! the source files are ruined !!! |
| 18:33:20 | spiralman | tid-wave: configure script might have cached something wrong then |
| 18:33:24 | tid-wave | the .cpp are not good |
| 18:33:38 | tid-wave | and 1 hour ago i did a make clean and ./configure |
| 18:34:05 | tid-wave | i guess that ./configure will not change the source files |
| 18:34:17 | spiralman | tid-wave: make clean doesnt remove the files ./configure creates either |
| 18:34:45 | spiralman | tid-wave: and what itll do is change whats defined, so things that wouldnt be compiled in due to #ifndef statements will be compiled in |
| 18:42:38 | spiralman | is it safe to use pthreads to fork to another member function in a class that exists in the main thread already? |
| 18:45:46 | tid-wave | "exists in the main thread" ??? |
| 18:46:07 | spiralman | ok, i have a class called someclass with two functions in it: func1 and func2 |
| 18:46:13 | spiralman | can i, in func1, fork to func2 |
| 18:46:16 | spiralman | ? |
| 18:46:45 | spiralman | and will func2 still have access to all the variables that it would have if it wasnt a part of a separate thread |
| 18:46:46 | tid-wave | why not ? i think yes |
| 18:47:16 | tid-wave | the class is not part of any thread ... |
| 18:47:30 | tid-wave | so i think the function can access the class |
| 18:47:57 | spiralman | well, the class is instantiated in the main thread |
| 18:48:06 | spiralman | its a specific instance of the class |
| 18:48:17 | spiralman | im calling class->func1, not class::func1 |
| 18:48:32 | raistlin | hi again |
| 18:48:55 | spiralman | raistlin: hey |
| 18:50:31 | tid-wave | i don't think it's important in which thread you declare a class |
| 18:50:46 | spiralman | tid-wave: the problem that im forseeing is that the instance of "class" is a private variable of the main thread, and will func2 which is in a thread of its own still have access to **that instance** of class, or will it be some other instance, and thus any private variables of the class would be at their default values |
| 18:51:05 | raistlin | I was wondering if someone could help me configure USB networking for WinXP -> iPAQ |
| 18:51:40 | tid-wave | declare the class static |
| 18:52:02 | spiralman | raistlin: first, this isnt the correct channel for that. second did you read the handhelds.org wiki page on usb networking? it has info on using the bahia driver |
| 18:53:30 | raistlin | spiralman: sorry. Yes I have read it all... Where is the right channel? I'm having trouble with the Bahia driver |
| 18:53:32 | raistlin | is all |
| 18:53:32 | spiralman | raistlin: im not trying to be stuck up about which channel you are in, but its to your advantage to ask in #handhelds.org because there are likely to be more people who might be able to help |
| 18:53:44 | raistlin | no problem. thanks! |
| 18:55:31 | tid-wave | spiralman:i don't know if it is safe |
| 18:55:50 | tid-wave | spiralman:if you decalre the class static the thread shouldn't have access to it |
| 18:55:57 | tid-wave | so it is not safe |
| 18:56:04 | spiralman | k |
| 18:56:11 | spiralman | ill have to come up with some other way of doing it |
| 18:56:21 | tid-wave | what do you want to do ? |
| 18:56:39 | spiralman | i need the second thread to have access to some variables from the first thread |
| 18:57:00 | tid-wave | than make the variables global |
| 18:57:04 | tid-wave | and it should work |
| 18:57:07 | spiralman | some of them are private to the class that i am forking from though |
| 18:57:09 | tid-wave | then |
| 18:57:13 | tid-wave | not than ... |
| 18:57:24 | tid-wave | i'm always messing with these words :) |
| 18:57:50 | ljp | you'd like with all the cars I'd owned in my life, I could keep track of the titles better.. hmmmpft |
| 18:58:02 | Harlekin | titles? |
| 18:58:24 | tid-wave | spiralman:it's easy...pass the pointers to the variables with the thread call |
| 18:58:38 | tid-wave | :) |
| 18:58:59 | ljp | a title is a govn't certificate of ownership |
| 18:59:10 | ljp | replaceable, but stilll... |
| 18:59:27 | ljp | it's registered anyway.. |
| 18:59:49 | ljp | wonder how I can get opie installed in that Fiero... :D |
| 18:59:55 | spiralman | tid-wave: so just have some global variables, and before i call the new thread, set the globals to the private variables? |
| 19:00:18 | spiralman | if qtextbrowser wasnt so braindead, i wouldnt even have to mess with threads |
| 19:01:02 | tid-wave | spiralman:no...you create a local class variable and when you create a thread you pass a structure containing the pointers to the variables |
| 19:01:04 | ljp | we also have to have a car title to transfer ownership |
| 19:01:34 | Harlekin | ah |
| 19:01:39 | Harlekin | "Fahrzeugbrief" |
| 19:01:40 | ljp | I know I threw it on the table 3 years ago when I bought the damn thing... |
| 19:03:08 | spiralman | tid-wave: hrm, im not following you there... |
| 19:04:04 | tid-wave | ...it's strange for me since i don't know what you want to do... |
| 19:04:11 | spiralman | hrm |
| 19:04:30 | tid-wave | but if you want to modify variables within a thread you pass their addreses within a structure |
| 19:04:50 | tid-wave | with a structure |
| 19:05:17 | spiralman | ok, ive got a class called HttpFactory, and another class called HttpComm. HttpComm needs to have access to some variables from HttpFactory, but it also needs to be executed in a separate thread. |
| 19:06:08 | spiralman | i need it to be in a separate thread because one of the functions in HttpFactory, needs to return a value that it gets from HttpComm, but HttpComm gets it through a series of signals and slots |
| 19:06:09 | tid-wave | you make the HttpFactory global |
| 19:06:42 | spiralman | ok |
| 19:07:08 | spiralman | unfortunately, im still not even sure if HttpComm's signals and slots will work correctly in the separate thread : ( |
| 19:07:50 | spiralman | and id be using QThread, but its not compiled into the qt libs that opie uses... |
| 19:08:23 | tid-wave | it doesn't hurt to try |
| 19:08:30 | tid-wave | try to see if it workd |
| 19:24:59 | tid-wave | does anyone know where is the tr() function located ?? in which header |
| 19:25:10 | leseb | in qobject |
| 19:25:55 | tid-wave | yeap |
| 19:25:57 | tid-wave | found it |
| 19:26:11 | tid-wave | and how to link it to trUtf8 ? |
| 19:26:20 | leseb | if your class doest herit QObject, use QObject::tr |
| 19:26:34 | leseb | trUtf8 is in qt3 not in qt2 |
| 19:26:44 | tid-wave | yes... i know |
| 19:26:46 | tid-wave | but |
| 19:27:00 | tid-wave | i can't compile opie |
| 19:27:03 | tid-wave | withou trUtf8 |
| 19:27:11 | tid-wave | and there are to many replacements to be done |
| 19:27:15 | tid-wave | in to many files |
| 19:28:02 | leseb | install kfilereplace |
| 19:32:20 | tid-wave | where can i get it ? |
| 19:32:48 | leseb | kfilereplace.sf.net |
| 19:32:50 | Harlekin | trUtf8 <- why |
| 19:33:24 | tid-wave | trUtf8 is a function in qt3 but i have qt2.3.2 |
| 19:33:33 | tid-wave | and the cvs source is messed up |
| 19:34:10 | Harlekin | so what for do you need it |
| 19:34:24 | tid-wave | to compile the source |
| 19:34:29 | tid-wave | it gives an error |
| 19:34:32 | spiralman | Harlekin: a bunch of the code in opie's cvs calls trUtf8 now |
| 19:34:35 | tid-wave | that it can't find that function |
| 19:34:38 | tid-wave | and many others |
| 19:34:47 | tid-wave | yes |
| 19:34:48 | Harlekin | spiralman: ? |
| 19:34:49 | tid-wave | exactly |
| 19:34:50 | Harlekin | spiralman: WHY? |
| 19:34:55 | spiralman | Harlekin: we dont know |
| 19:34:59 | Harlekin | ohoh |
| 19:35:05 | Harlekin | gcc3 changes |
| 19:35:13 | Harlekin | spiralman: which excectly? |
| 19:35:19 | spiralman | Harlekin: ask tid-wave |
| 19:35:32 | tid-wave | Harlekin:i have gcc 2 |
| 19:35:33 | tid-wave | and |
| 19:35:40 | tid-wave | in opie/library for example |
| 19:36:01 | tid-wave | there is a file called passwordbase_p.cpp |
| 19:37:31 | tid-wave | that is generated at make process by |
| 19:37:35 | tid-wave | uic |
| 19:37:37 | tid-wave | i think |
| 19:38:23 | Harlekin | could it be that you have the "wrong" uic? |
| 19:38:33 | drw | Wrong ver of uic |
| 19:38:57 | tid-wave | ugh |
| 19:38:58 | tid-wave | yes |
| 19:39:01 | tid-wave | that's it |
| 19:39:02 | tid-wave | DAMN |
| 19:39:09 | tid-wave | how can i make a new one ? |
| 19:39:21 | tid-wave | without compiling the entre qt |
| 19:39:29 | tid-wave | i still have the source and the objects |
| 19:40:23 | Harlekin | tid-wave: email addr? |
| 19:40:25 | Harlekin | i send you one |
| 19:40:27 | drw | download qt-2.3.2, do a configure, then go into src/tools/uic and do a make |
| 19:40:28 | raistlin | anyone know where to find libuuid1? |
| 19:40:33 | tid-wave | necroroot@alphanet.ro |
| 19:40:45 | spiralman | raistlin: e2fsprogs |
| 19:40:57 | tid-wave | spiralman:a lot of ppl asked for that... |
| 19:41:11 | raistlin | it's part of e2fsprogs? what is libuuid1 exactly? |
| 19:42:07 | Harlekin | unique id lib |
| 19:43:42 | raistlin | the latest opie-taskbar package complains about this |
| 19:43:52 | raistlin | and I already have e2fsprogs installed |
| 19:44:15 | Harlekin | e2fsprogs-libuuid |
| 19:44:34 | raistlin | familiar v0.5.3? |
| 19:44:47 | tid-wave | Harlekin:thanks for the uic |
| 19:44:53 | Harlekin | np |
| 19:44:58 | Harlekin | tid-wave: try with that please |
| 19:45:04 | Harlekin | and do a make clean first |
| 19:45:04 | Harlekin | ,) |
| 19:45:12 | tid-wave | yeap i'm doing it now |
| 19:46:03 | tid-wave | how can i build individually ? i don't want everything |
| 19:48:21 | drw | tid-wave: after you configure, go into each directory you want and do a make |
| 19:53:39 | tid-wave | spiralman:how to make a new uic for qt-2.3.2 if i have qt 3 installed ? |
| 19:54:51 | spiralman | tid-wave: youll have to modify the $PATH variable to point to the qt2.3.2 uic and not the qt3 one |
| 19:55:20 | tid-wave | yes but i don;t even have the uic |
| 19:55:24 | tid-wave | how to build it ? |
| 19:55:31 | tid-wave | without building the entire qt |
| 19:57:52 | spiralman | tid-wave: dont know, look at the qt source, you may be able to cd into its directory and run make |
| 19:59:54 | tid-wave | is there any way of building uic if i have qt 3 normal and qt 2.3.2 embedded ? |
| 20:00:42 | spiralman | tid-wave: yes, build it from 2.3.2 embedded source |
| 20:00:46 | raistlin | has anyone had trouble saving information using the Text Editor? |
| 20:00:56 | tid-wave | spiralman:HOW ? |
| 20:00:57 | spiralman | tid-wave: when you built 2.3.2 it should have been built along with it |
| 20:01:04 | tid-wave | now it is not |
| 20:01:16 | tid-wave | i've built that and it is not there |
| 20:01:36 | spiralman | tid-wave: it really should be there |
| 20:01:48 | tid-wave | well...it is NOT |
| 20:01:54 | spiralman | tid-wave: where are you looking? |
| 20:02:15 | tid-wave | in /usr/src/qt-2.3.2/bin |
| 20:02:31 | spiralman | tid-wave: cd into /usr/src/qt-2.3.2/tools and run make |
| 20:03:00 | tid-wave | nothing to be done for all |
| 20:03:05 | tid-wave | something like that |
| 20:03:08 | spiralman | run make clean first then |
| 20:03:08 | tid-wave | message |
| 20:03:15 | tid-wave | i did it |
| 20:03:17 | tid-wave | and nothing |
| 20:03:19 | tid-wave | ... |
| 20:04:39 | spiralman | tid-wave: might be in src/tools |
| 20:05:06 | tid-wave | only headers there |
| 20:06:33 | spiralman | tid-wave: ok, its in tools/designer/uic |
| 20:07:04 | tid-wave | yes it's there...the source |
| 20:07:29 | spiralman | tid-wave: there is a makefile in there, you should be able to just run make |
| 20:07:36 | tid-wave | nope |
| 20:07:41 | tid-wave | nothing to be don |
| 20:07:48 | spiralman | tid-wave: touch * |
| 20:08:32 | spiralman | tid-wave: then run make |
| 20:08:35 | tid-wave | i don't have libqutil |
| 20:08:44 | tid-wave | i need that |
| 20:08:55 | spiralman | ahh |
| 20:09:26 | spiralman | i think youll find it much easier to just rebuilt qt |
| 20:09:34 | tid-wave | which qt ? |
| 20:09:38 | spiralman | 2.3.2 |
| 20:09:55 | tid-wave | i only have the embedded |
| 20:10:12 | spiralman | yes, i know |
| 20:10:19 | spiralman | doesnt matter itll still get built |
| 20:10:34 | tid-wave | damn...i did build that |
| 20:10:38 | tid-wave | and i can't see any uic |
| 20:54:51 | tid-wave | it works yes |
| 20:54:54 | tid-wave | :) |
| 20:55:00 | tid-wave | i've built that uic |
| 20:55:02 | tid-wave | :) |
| 20:55:07 | spiralman | spiffy |
| 20:55:29 | tid-wave | it doesn't give any errors now |
| 20:55:34 | tid-wave | i have a question |
| 20:55:41 | spiralman | yeah? |
| 20:55:41 | tid-wave | on my ipaq 3600 |
| 20:55:47 | tid-wave | when i play a sound |
| 20:55:57 | tid-wave | i hear a strange noise at startup |
| 20:56:00 | tid-wave | a short one |
| 20:56:12 | tid-wave | a bRRRRRR |
| 20:56:14 | spiralman | what application are you using to play the sound? |
| 20:56:26 | tid-wave | opie-player |
| 20:56:35 | spiralman | might be a buffer thing, not sure |
| 20:56:37 | tid-wave | however |
| 20:56:45 | tid-wave | it's the sound recorded by vmemo |
| 20:56:52 | spiralman | oh |
| 20:56:52 | tid-wave | wav file |
| 20:56:53 | tid-wave | and |
| 20:56:55 | tid-wave | another thing |
| 20:57:06 | tid-wave | if i click to hear the taps and the key clicks |
| 20:57:12 | tid-wave | i can hear the sound |
| 20:57:31 | tid-wave | but if i press often a key one adter another the volume turns higher |
| 20:57:44 | spiralman | hrm, not sure. talk to ljp about it, hes the one whos done the most work on the sound stuff i think |
| 20:57:44 | tid-wave | if i pause and click again it' normal |
| 20:57:45 | tid-wave | :) |
| 20:58:43 | tid-wave | too bad that ipaq hasn't got a mic input |
| 20:58:50 | tid-wave | or some audio input |
| 20:58:56 | tid-wave | only a mic |
| 21:00:16 | ljp | hmm |
| 21:00:27 | tid-wave | zaurus has one right ? |
| 21:00:37 | tid-wave | but zaurus hasn't got a speaker :) |
| 21:00:37 | ljp | ya don tuse click sounds when using vmemo |
| 21:01:15 | ljp | my zaurus has a mic |
| 21:01:26 | ljp | AND a mic input |
| 21:01:42 | tid-wave | ljp: but it doesn't have a speaker |
| 21:01:45 | tid-wave | right ? |
| 21:01:55 | ljp | kinda... sorta... yess.. no... |
| 21:02:02 | tid-wave | :)) |
| 21:02:14 | ljp | the speaker 'buzzer' only plays a few sounds |
| 21:02:41 | ljp | kergoth is trying to make it be able to play real sounds |
| 21:02:53 | tid-wave | i've read that the life of the zaurus is very short...he battery life |
| 21:03:26 | tid-wave | ljp: ipaq has a sound output and a sound speaker... |
| 21:03:38 | tid-wave | i can play real sounds on it |
| 21:03:43 | ljp | nice |
| 21:03:47 | tid-wave | but i don;t have a mic input |
| 21:03:49 | tid-wave | and that SUX |
| 21:03:59 | ljp | but it has a mic right? |
| 21:04:03 | tid-wave | yeah |
| 21:04:40 | tid-wave | i prefer an input rather than a mic |
| 21:04:45 | spiralman | you could probably open the ipaq up and replace the mic with a mic input, if you knew what you were doing |
| 21:04:55 | ljp | ahh.. better sound quality, no doubt |
| 21:05:18 | tid-wave | spiralman:i have no place for extra wires |
| 21:05:20 | spiralman | and the builtin speaker really isnt all that usefull except for some really basic stuff. i wouldnt want to listen to music on it, or anything |
| 21:05:27 | tid-wave | the hole for the mic is too small |
| 21:05:39 | spiralman | tid-wave: youd have to mod the case as well |
| 21:06:20 | tid-wave | spiralman: an ipaq without mic input it's better than a ruined ipaq :)))) |
| 21:06:39 | spiralman | tid-wave: i wasnt suggesting you do it, was just saying it might be possible |
| 21:06:53 | tid-wave | yeah i know |
| 21:07:33 | tid-wave | i love this ipaq... i didn't even know how nice this small things are... |
| 21:09:45 | tid-wave | i had showimg running in my qvfb :))) |
| 21:11:00 | tid-wave | what do i have to build in order to have the file selection dialog ? |
| 21:11:53 | spiralman | its in libopie |
| 21:12:11 | tid-wave | hmm |
| 21:12:22 | spiralman | tid-wave: why arent you using the feed? |
| 21:12:46 | tid-wave | on my ipaq even if i click the open icon in showimg the dialog won't appear |
| 21:12:51 | tid-wave | because i wan't to develop |
| 21:13:15 | tid-wave | at least try |
| 21:13:27 | spiralman | ahh. i use a prebuilt opie on my ipaq, and then just develop off of libopie... |
| 21:13:32 | tid-wave | i'm not going to build opie to run on ipaq :)))) |
| 21:14:26 | tid-wave | i don't understand why open doesn't work in showimg |
| 21:15:55 | spiralman | tid-wave: it only allows you to open whats in the documents tab |
| 21:16:01 | tid-wave | yeah |
| 21:16:04 | tid-wave | i see :) |
| 22:45:59 | Xentac | question... is there an irda control program that sits in the Settings menu, instead of on the appletbar? |
| 22:46:21 | ljp | no, but there should be |
| 22:46:33 | Xentac | ok... who do I bug about it? ;o) |
| 22:47:56 | ljp | hmm not sure.. might want to ask to th emaillist |
| 22:48:40 | Xentac | ok... I'll ask once I get around to it |
| 23:48:54 | spiralman | is away: out for the night |
| 23:49:24 | MickeyL | is leaving for a while... |