| 01:07:58 | spiralman | is away: dinner |
| 01:24:47 | CraHan | heh, just noticed, but no matter what the settin, opie-today always starts when resuming the ipaq |
| 01:24:56 | CraHan | i can say, don't start, or do start |
| 01:25:00 | CraHan | it starts either way |
| 01:25:02 | CraHan | weird |
| 01:25:18 | CraHan | also |
| 01:25:29 | CraHan | scrollbar setting in the konsole doesn't get saved |
| 01:27:08 | spiralman | is back |
| 01:28:17 | spiralman | submit it to bugzilla... |
| 01:28:53 | CraHan | ok |
| 01:28:56 | spiralman | is away: agian... |
| 01:33:11 | spiralman | is back |
| 01:37:18 | CraHan | bugs added |
| 01:37:21 | spiralman | spiffy |
| 01:37:31 | CraHan | heh |
| 01:37:44 | spiralman | they might be fixed in cvs, but i dont know, and thats the best way to be sure... |
| 01:37:51 | CraHan | dunno |
| 01:37:57 | CraHan | i'm running that pre 0.9 feed |
| 01:38:01 | spiralman | we need a scrollbar setting that is system wide here |
| 01:38:07 | spiralman | then they probably arent fixed... |
| 01:38:11 | CraHan | compiled on the 6 of june or so |
| 01:38:26 | CraHan | i added that to the bugreport |
| 01:38:40 | CraHan | that it happened on the official feed and the latest cvs builds |
| 01:38:54 | spiralman | ok, cool |
| 01:38:56 | CraHan | i tried that qnx thing this weekend |
| 01:39:01 | spiralman | yeah? |
| 01:39:05 | CraHan | after 30 mins opie was back :) |
| 01:39:13 | CraHan | it's a nice environment |
| 01:39:17 | CraHan | but too limited atm |
| 01:39:20 | CraHan | no pim apps |
| 01:39:33 | CraHan | a few games... a terminal app |
| 01:39:42 | spiralman | yeah, it doesnt really have many devels or users, so there arent many apps for it yet |
| 01:39:56 | CraHan | it looks nice though |
| 01:40:05 | CraHan | comparable to opie actually |
| 01:40:05 | spiralman | is there a list app available for opie/qtopia that you know of? |
| 01:40:16 | CraHan | list app? |
| 01:40:25 | spiralman | yeah, like for grocery lists and stuff |
| 01:40:27 | CraHan | ooh |
| 01:40:33 | CraHan | erhm... can't remember |
| 01:40:44 | spiralman | k, i was thinking of making one |
| 01:40:59 | spiralman | but ive got enough other projects planned that its sorta at the bottom... |
| 01:41:02 | CraHan | did you check http://killefiz.de/zaurus/ ? |
| 01:41:29 | spiralman | no, i havent actually looked yet, just wondering if you knew of one... |
| 01:41:50 | CraHan | i do remember something |
| 01:41:51 | CraHan | hang on |
| 01:41:57 | CraHan | lemme see of ot was for opie |
| 01:41:58 | spiralman | i found ShoppingLIst |
| 01:42:27 | CraHan | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=170 |
| 01:42:30 | CraHan | yeah :) |
| 01:42:37 | CraHan | just found that too |
| 01:43:00 | spiralman | looks like its a pain to add items though... |
| 01:43:44 | CraHan | a more general app would be nice |
| 01:43:50 | CraHan | not only grocery lists |
| 01:43:58 | spiralman | well, this looks general enough |
| 01:44:26 | spiralman | just cause it says "shopping list" at the top doesnt mean you cant use it for something else... |
| 01:44:45 | spiralman | havent downloaded it yet, though... |
| 01:45:29 | CraHan | true |
| 01:48:02 | spiralman | hmm, the ipkg doesnt seem to work w/ C ipkg... |
| 01:48:45 | spiralman | and im to lazy to compile it from source... |
| 01:51:14 | spiralman | hrm, i should work on one of those projects i was talking about : ) |
| 01:53:01 | kergoth | ah son of a bitch |
| 01:53:05 | kergoth | somebody shoot me |
| 01:53:26 | spiralman | slaps kergoth around with a small 50lb Unix Manual |
| 01:53:34 | spiralman | did that help? |
| 01:53:43 | kergoth | a bit, thanks |
| 01:53:50 | spiralman | np |
| 01:55:09 | kergoth | aghh |
| 01:55:10 | kergoth | women. |
| 01:58:37 | ljp | computers |
| 02:00:52 | kergoth | whats good for dealing with emotional anguish? other than alcohol and/or a shrink |
| 02:00:56 | kergoth | hehh |
| 02:01:17 | spiralman | well, there are some other drugs besides alchohol that might do the trick... |
| 02:01:30 | kergoth | hey theres an idea |
| 02:01:37 | spiralman | but their legality and availability is suspect... |
| 02:02:12 | kergoth | yeh Ive got no sources for that shit anymore. grr |
| 02:02:36 | spiralman | where i live, you have to know somebody who knows somebody... |
| 02:02:45 | spiralman | and everybody i know moved out a year ago... |
| 02:04:03 | kergoth | yep similiar situation here |
| 02:04:04 | kergoth | ah well |
| 02:04:12 | kergoth | digs out the bottle of Jack |
| 02:06:51 | ljp | pulls out ye ole electric guitar |
| 02:09:17 | spiralman | is away: stuff |
| 02:09:39 | kergoth | jack, guitar, and stuff. fun |
| 02:41:28 | spiralman | ack, can you use QToolBar w/out a QMainWindow? |
| 02:49:09 | spiralman | nm, i just made my main widget a MainWindow... |
| 02:49:15 | spiralman | hopefully, itll work the way i want it... |
| 03:00:21 | spiralman | is away: movie |
| 03:26:30 | WiseGuy58 | hi all |
| 04:07:19 | WiseGuy58 | yo |
| 04:07:21 | WiseGuy58 | anyone home? |
| 04:41:05 | Nicodeimous | Is thier a bejewelled like game out in the opie world? |
| 04:51:02 | spiralman | is back |
| 04:53:39 | Nicodeimous | Is thier a bejewelled like game out in the opie world? |
| 04:53:57 | kergoth` | heard you the first time |
| 04:53:58 | kergoth` | heh |
| 04:54:09 | spiralman | try one of the zaurus software sites |
| 04:55:32 | Nicodeimous | gasp |
| 04:56:06 | hash | damn... |
| 04:56:15 | spiralman | what? |
| 04:56:25 | hash | i went through hell to write a bdf font charset converter |
| 04:56:45 | hash | and now that i have the converted bdf file that i want |
| 04:56:45 | hash | makeqpf just segfaults on me |
| 04:58:14 | spiralman | that sucks... |
| 04:59:07 | hash | i wanted a korean only font in unicode |
| 05:00:31 | spiralman | is there source for makeqpf? perhaps building it yourself will fix the segfault |
| 05:01:58 | spiralman | like if it was compiled against an incompatable library, or some such... |
| 05:03:55 | spiralman | or run it in strace, and see what happens... |
| 05:04:29 | ha5h | uuhg |
| 05:04:37 | ha5h | connection problems |
| 05:04:51 | ha5h | spiralman: did you say something a few minutes ago? |
| 05:04:55 | spiralman | yeah |
| 05:05:17 | spiralman | i said that if there is source for makeqpf, compiling it might help, if there is an incompatable library, or something... |
| 05:05:29 | spiralman | or run it under strace or gdb |
| 05:05:41 | ha5h | ok |
| 05:17:01 | ha5h | the thing is... |
| 05:17:11 | ha5h | there are patches for qt-2.3.3's makeqpf |
| 05:17:14 | ha5h | but not for 2.3.2 |
| 05:17:17 | ha5h | and that's what i got |
| 05:17:20 | spiralman | hrm |
| 05:17:59 | spiralman | you should be able to **just** compile qt 2.3.3's makeqpf |
| 05:18:10 | spiralman | just run configure, then cd into the source directory for it, and run "make" |
| 05:18:15 | ha5h | i should be able to... |
| 05:18:24 | spiralman | yeah, should is the key word there... |
| 05:18:40 | ha5h | but my version of makeqpf is from 2.3.2 |
| 05:18:41 | ha5h | not 2.3.3 |
| 05:18:46 | ha5h | and the patches are for 2.3.3 |
| 05:18:55 | spiralman | that doesnt matter |
| 05:18:59 | ha5h | k |
| 05:19:05 | spiralman | once you compile the 2.3.3 version, just use that one... |
| 05:19:19 | spiralman | i doubt they changed the format of qpf between two bugfix releases |
| 05:26:51 | ha5h | ah shit |
| 05:26:53 | ha5h | i give up |
| 05:27:07 | spiralman | no luck? |
| 05:27:11 | ha5h | can someone please try to make this font? |
| 05:27:16 | ha5h | yeah, can't get it to compile |
| 05:27:44 | spiralman | i would, but i dont have makeqpf : ( |
| 05:27:45 | ha5h | http://www.zauruszone.com/wiki/index.php?TTF%20To%20QPF%20HOWTO |
| 05:27:49 | ha5h | k |
| 05:28:36 | ha5h | anyone have makeqpf working? |
| 05:55:06 | hash | i'm out |
| 05:55:11 | spiralman | later |
| 07:23:52 | spiralman | night all |
| 07:38:48 | mark | treke|home: ab out? |
| 08:22:56 | Harlekin_ | re |
| 08:23:03 | mark | hi Harlekin_ |
| 08:23:04 | Harlekin_ | short stop in |
| 08:23:08 | Harlekin_ | ljp: awake? |
| 08:23:39 | mark | QObject::connect: No such signal QDialog::accept() |
| 08:23:42 | mark | wtf |
| 08:24:27 | Harlekin_ | ljp: obex is done |
| 08:24:35 | mark | Harlekin_: really? :) |
| 08:36:50 | mark | cool |
| 09:27:55 | Groucho | hi there |
| 09:27:59 | mark | hi Groucho |
| 09:28:01 | mark | treke|home: ping? |
| 09:29:44 | | Harlekin was last seen on #opie 17 hours, 30 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: away [Sat Jun 8 16:59:09 2002] |
| 09:29:44 | Groucho | ibot:seen Harlekin |
| 09:30:12 | mark | Groucho: how ws linuxtag? |
| 09:30:27 | Groucho | Great- we raised lots of interest |
| 09:31:05 | Groucho | Even a german TV station team appeared- they came only for opie... |
| 09:33:17 | mark | someone told me there is a KProcess somewhere in opie cvs - where is it? |
| 09:33:32 | Groucho | in oipkg I believe |
| 09:35:16 | mark | wondering what they did about QMap |
| 09:35:41 | mark | or is QMap a qt 3 class? |
| 09:36:07 | mark | nope, it was there in qt2.3, hmm |
| 09:37:24 | mark | hmmm |
| 09:37:31 | mark | Groucho: nope, not in oipkg |
| 09:38:03 | mark | Harlekin_: do you know where kprocess is in opie cvs? |
| 09:38:09 | Groucho | as soon as my cvs update is through I will have a look |
| 09:38:14 | mark | Groucho: cheers |
| 09:48:50 | Groucho | ibot: message for kergoth: URGENT- What is going on with CVS and why is it filled with Qtopia instead of opie ??? |
| 09:59:46 | mark | Groucho: he tried an import |
| 09:59:59 | Groucho | Oh my goodness. CVS is completeley wrotten- There is Qtopia in it and OPIE features are gone ... |
| 10:00:31 | mark | is it completely Qtopia? |
| 10:00:41 | mark | vendor import hasn't gone to well then :) |
| 10:01:07 | Groucho | It seems so... |
| 10:01:51 | mark | oh dear |
| 10:01:55 | mark | kergoth`zzz: wake up! :) |
| 10:02:01 | Groucho | Harlekin noticed it on Friday morning but could not check further... |
| 10:03:05 | Groucho | It seems that someone did not do a cvs import or commit but copied it manually in the file system ... |
| 10:03:19 | mark | nah he wont have done that |
| 10:06:19 | Groucho | Argh- I see... |
| 10:06:28 | Groucho | Import of qpe from cvs into TT vendor branch as of 20020606 |
| 10:09:23 | Groucho | ibot: message for kergoth: CVS looks odd but I might be wrong here. Please check the structure regarding opie and qtopia dependencies |
| 10:15:19 | Groucho | Hmm, could not find KProcess... |
| 10:22:18 | Groucho | mark: There is a QProcess used in qipkg. |
| 10:22:50 | Groucho | Anyway, I am away now as I am not using a flat rate |
| 10:22:58 | Groucho | Have a nice remaining weekend |
| 10:23:05 | Groucho | cu all |
| 10:39:27 | mark | hi jeff_ |
| 13:25:37 | GrimGrinningGhos | Where could i go to download the opie packages? |
| 13:25:54 | | i guess feed is a package repository or http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds or http://www.zauruszone.com/feed/ or http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/3.0/ for OpenZaurus |
| 13:25:54 | mark | ibot: feed |
| 13:26:59 | GrimGrinningGhos | Thanks. I understand that if I do not have a direct connection to the internet for my handheld, that I can download the packages through xmodem to the device and install the packages that way. Is that true? |
| 13:27:23 | mark | #indeed |
| 13:27:25 | | mark: i'm not following you... |
| 13:27:25 | mark | ibot: opie-feed |
| 13:27:27 | | opie feed is http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq |
| 13:27:27 | mark | ibot: opie feed |
| 13:27:31 | mark | GrimGrinningGhos: thast the one you want |
| 14:36:54 | mark | kergoth`: ping |
| 15:34:39 | GrimGrinningGhos | I have downloaded all of the packages for opie, but should I wait until the release and then download new packages? |
| 15:43:34 | mark | GrimGrinningGhos: up to you :) |
| 16:23:59 | GrimGrinningGhos | mark, how extensive will the changes be in the new release? |
| 16:24:14 | mark | GrimGrinningGhos: no idea |
| 16:24:18 | mark | depends how productive we are :) |
| 16:24:26 | mark | GrimGrinningGhos: ur best to get net connectivity on ur ipaq |
| 16:24:41 | GrimGrinningGhos | will a compact flash lan be enough? |
| 16:24:59 | mark | yeah |
| 16:25:23 | GrimGrinningGhos | when I install familiar, will support for the card be automatic, or will I need to build it in? |
| 16:38:07 | mark | no idea |
| 17:08:52 | WiseGuy58 | hey all |
| 17:09:01 | WiseGuy58 | does anyone know if GL works in QT/Embedded? |
| 17:10:18 | mark | WiseGuy58: it doesnt |
| 17:10:27 | WiseGuy58 | damn |
| 17:10:45 | WiseGuy58 | how willing is QT/E to share the framebuffer? |
| 17:10:48 | mark | not compiled in |
| 17:10:53 | WiseGuy58 | :-/ |
| 17:10:54 | mark | use QDirectPainter or something |
| 17:11:02 | mark | gives you direct access to it |
| 17:11:22 | WiseGuy58 | I know next to nothing about QT, I just want to get an OpenGL app I wrote to go on the iPAQ |
| 17:11:32 | WiseGuy58 | i've compiled mesa, but I need X for that... |
| 17:11:51 | WiseGuy58 | is there some QTE/X compat layer or anything? |
| 17:12:01 | mark | nope |
| 17:12:16 | WiseGuy58 | dang |
| 17:12:37 | mark | i really dont know how youd do that |
| 17:12:44 | WiseGuy58 | do what? |
| 17:12:49 | WiseGuy58 | X and QT/E? |
| 17:12:54 | mark | get an opengl app running on the ipaq |
| 17:13:05 | mark | well, running qTE |
| 17:13:19 | WiseGuy58 | Mesa software renderer, and QDirectPainter? |
| 17:13:35 | mark | yeh that should do it |
| 17:14:33 | WiseGuy58 | hmm |
| 17:14:36 | WiseGuy58 | i'll see what I can do |
| 17:14:40 | WiseGuy58 | Mesa is huge tho :( |
| 17:14:57 | WiseGuy58 | ok |
| 17:15:24 | treke|home | and slow |
| 17:22:10 | lanbo | Hi all. I was wondering if kitchensynch is a reallity... or when will it be? |
| 17:22:44 | George- | what is kitchensync? |
| 17:23:04 | lanbo | An app to synch opie with KDE |
| 17:23:12 | treke|home | lanbo : its in progress |
| 17:23:37 | lanbo | treke|home: ah. Ok. Which app will it face to? Korganizer? |
| 17:23:53 | treke|home | lanbo : Dont know, probably |
| 17:23:57 | mark | hi spiralman |
| 17:24:07 | spiralman | hey |
| 17:24:08 | treke|home | I dont use kde, and dont follow its development much |
| 17:24:56 | lanbo | treke|home: ok. If you are a gnome fan, I think evolution works pretty well. ;-) |
| 17:25:18 | treke|home | not a big gnome fan either :) |
| 17:25:29 | treke|home | tried evolution though, it worked ok |
| 17:25:45 | lanbo | treke:umm... fwmw2 + xterm?, then? :-P |
| 17:26:03 | treke|home | close enough |
| 17:26:06 | lanbo | jaja |
| 17:26:08 | mark | spiralman: knights release soon |
| 17:26:13 | spiralman | mark: cool |
| 17:26:26 | | lanbo: what? |
| 17:26:26 | lanbo | ibot knights |
| 17:26:31 | spiralman | i find that i either want fvwm2 or kde, and rarely something inbetween |
| 17:26:43 | | OK, spiralman. |
| 17:26:43 | spiralman | ibot knights is the chess interface for opie |
| 17:26:58 | lanbo | thanks ;-) |
| 17:27:01 | spiralman | np |
| 17:27:37 | lanbo | kde is a bit bloated... My P3 400 Mhz and 64Mb ram cannot run it nicely... :-( |
| 17:27:55 | spiralman | hrm, i ran in on a k62-300 w/ 64mb just fine |
| 17:28:09 | spiralman | in->it |
| 17:28:09 | lanbo | spiralman: which distro? |
| 17:28:09 | mark | spiralman: hmm, not sure if its gonna go into opie yet |
| 17:28:20 | spiralman | lanbo: slackware |
| 17:28:28 | spiralman | mark: well, its **for**opie... |
| 17:28:49 | spiralman | mark: and im certainly not gonna make another one : ) |
| 17:29:29 | mark | spiralman: hmm, not sure its for opie yet |
| 17:29:30 | mark | we'll see |
| 17:29:34 | lanbo | spiralman: I will give it a try. MAybe gentoo aswell.. Actually, opie for the desktop also works. May be a good idea to switch to opie on the PC to have a speedy system :-) |
| 17:29:44 | spiralman | mark: as in, itll run in opie... |
| 17:29:52 | mark | spiralman: sure |
| 17:30:12 | spiralman | mark: there for its written for opie, even if its not a part of the official opie project |
| 17:30:34 | spiralman | lanbo: yeah, opie as a desktop for low end machines would be cool |
| 17:30:44 | mark | spiralman: true :) |
| 17:31:12 | spiralman | lanbo: i started trying to get it running on my dreamcast, but just didnt have enough docs, time, and interest. but ill probably start up again later |
| 17:31:28 | lanbo | on the dreamcats? |
| 17:31:46 | lanbo | spirlaman: But does linux run on this platform? |
| 17:31:50 | spiralman | yeah |
| 17:31:54 | spiralman | try www.linuxdc.org |
| 17:32:05 | spiralman | unfortunately, their site has been down for a while now : ( |
| 17:32:22 | spiralman | but theve got a site to a linuxdevices.com article on it.. |
| 17:32:29 | lanbo | jaja |
| 17:32:32 | George- | spiralman: tell me, what's the point of running linux on the dreamcast? |
| 17:32:43 | spiralman | George-: for fun, or to make it easy to develop for it |
| 17:33:17 | George- | what's the point in developing linux s/w for the dc, when most of the dc users don't run linux? |
| 17:33:32 | spiralman | George-: my main idea was i wanted to port a game i was working on to it, and linux made a good base, cause i could write at near hardware levels w/out having to reimplement a bunch of stuff |
| 17:33:41 | spiralman | George-: the OS is on the game disc... |
| 17:33:55 | spiralman | George-: so some ports of windows based games are actually running on top of CE |
| 17:33:58 | George- | hmm |
| 17:34:04 | George- | I suppose... |
| 17:34:11 | George- | well, the DC runs WinCE anyway |
| 17:34:33 | treke|home | George- : most games run on either ce or segas os |
| 17:34:44 | spiralman | so, you could write a linux game, and then put linux + your game on the disc, have the game boot linux and then start your game immediately, and it looks like its just a game... |
| 17:34:51 | George- | i c |
| 17:35:33 | George- | oh right |
| 17:44:19 | lanbo | I just read: Tux goes mobile: OPIE 0.9 debuts at LinuxTag Jun. 04, 2002 |
| 17:44:26 | lanbo | So do we have a new version? |
| 17:45:01 | lanbo | where is the changelog? Or improvements to the last version? |
| 17:45:38 | spiralman | the new version is still just in cvs |
| 17:45:40 | spiralman | no feed yet |
| 17:46:00 | lanbo | spiralman: what about a list of improvements? |
| 17:46:02 | treke|home | lanbo : you can read the cvs logs though |
| 17:46:02 | spiralman | for a changelog, the best i can give you is the wiki page describing the differences between opie and qtopia... |
| 17:46:24 | spiralman | WhatsNewIn is the name of the page |
| 17:47:04 | lanbo | spiralman: umm... what can you say about the next version, then? Compared to the current one? Any special features? Opie is stable with me... Should I have to upgrade? |
| 17:47:30 | treke|home | http://handhelds.org/pipermail/opie-cvs/2002-June/thread.html |
| 17:48:25 | spiralman | lanbo: you can compare the list of features on that wiki page w/ what youve got... |
| 17:48:40 | lanbo | ok |
| 17:48:47 | spiralman | lanbo: since this is technically the **first** release of opie, a changelog hasnt been kept before... |
| 17:49:46 | lanbo | I guess there are not special improves.... I'm gonna read this wiki |
| 17:49:49 | spiralman | all the other feeds where just made whenever somebody who could put up a new feed decided it was time for one, and current cvs was relatively bug free |
| 17:50:08 | spiralman | lanbo: the main thing for the 09 release should be bugfixes |
| 17:50:28 | lanbo | ok |
| 17:50:44 | spiralman | lanbo: even though opie is "stable" there are several major bugs that are annoying, even if they dont cause it to crash |
| 17:50:48 | treke|home | lanbo : short answer. cool stuff. upgrade |
| 17:51:18 | lanbo | any tricky way to upgrade using ipkg? |
| 17:51:27 | spiralman | ipkg update; ipkg upgrade |
| 17:51:28 | treke|home | tricky way? |
| 17:51:50 | spiralman | lanbo: thats **after** the new feed is out, and its not out yet... |
| 17:51:51 | lanbo | treke|home: I don't want to upgrade all the ipaq. Just opie... |
| 17:52:00 | treke|home | remove the other feeds |
| 17:52:01 | lanbo | spiralman: true |
| 17:52:21 | lanbo | I'll wait until official packages |
| 17:52:34 | spiralman | is there any way i can remove that little tear off thing in QToolBar? |
| 17:52:46 | treke|home | spiralman : try using a QPEToolbar |
| 17:52:51 | spiralman | ahh, cool |
| 17:53:06 | treke|home | I dont know if that fixes it, I just know there is/was one |
| 17:55:54 | lanbo | hey, is it possible to get from Compaq the money of windowsCE? Maybe now it's too late, but for the future, is it possible to buy an IPAQ and not WindowsCE? |
| 17:56:40 | spiralman | lanbo: no |
| 17:56:41 | mark_ | lanbo: no |
| 17:56:45 | treke|home | nope |
| 17:56:45 | spiralman | gonz: hey |
| 17:56:54 | gonz | hi! |
| 17:57:08 | spiralman | treke|home: either i did something wrong, or that didnt fix it : ( |
| 17:57:16 | spiralman | treke|home: oh well, it really a minor thing... |
| 17:57:54 | lanbo | Just the upgrade it's $29...http://www.smb.compaq.com/html/ipaqsoftware/index.asp |
| 17:59:44 | spiralman | well, the way you get money back from that is by not buying it... |
| 18:00:00 | spiralman | : ) |
| 18:00:58 | spiralman | my little web browser can browse local files now (well, it did last night also...) |
| 18:01:05 | treke|home | cool |
| 18:01:18 | spiralman | QTextBrowser is very spiffy |
| 18:01:24 | lanbo | spiralman: sure.. I was wondering how much is the license. After all 29 is for the upgrade, so maybe I payed $50 |
| 18:01:30 | spiralman | just need to create a new QMimeSourceFactory for http |
| 18:02:16 | treke|home | lanbo : The cost of the upgrade may not in away way be related to the cost of the upgrade |
| 18:02:23 | treke|home | depends on ms' licensing scheme |
| 18:02:24 | spiralman | lanbo: that 29 includes the box, and a bunch of other stuff that compaq didnt pay for, not to mention they have a major bulk order |
| 18:03:06 | lanbo | s |
| 18:03:19 | lanbo | Come on... So how much is the OS? |
| 18:03:24 | treke|home | Giving you the upgrade for your ipaq may in fact be free if they have a sufficiently nice agreement with ms |
| 18:03:33 | lanbo | $20? Still a nice dinner domewhere... :-) |
| 18:03:43 | spiralman | they have offered rom updates for free in the past... |
| 18:03:54 | lanbo | really? |
| 18:03:57 | spiralman | yes |
| 18:04:04 | treke|home | its not something you can just attach a price to |
| 18:04:16 | lanbo | spiralman: It's not the same as in the PC market, then |
| 18:04:17 | spiralman | in fact, you can restore CE from them if you mess up or loose your backup image |
| 18:04:32 | lanbo | ah |
| 18:05:22 | treke|home | lanbo : besides. you agred to keep your Win CE license |
| 18:05:45 | treke|home | With the windows refunds, they were only for unused licenses |
| 18:06:24 | mark_ | George-: you going? |
| 18:07:24 | George- | mark_: going where? |
| 18:07:30 | mark_ | George-: school |
| 18:07:54 | George- | omg |
| 18:07:57 | George- | it's 10 past already |
| 18:08:02 | George- | hmm |
| 18:08:05 | George- | I'm going at 8 |
| 18:11:14 | mark_ | lol |
| 18:14:24 | mark_ | does 'White is checked' |
| 18:14:28 | mark_ | imply why is under check? |
| 18:14:54 | spiralman | hmm, does to me |
| 18:15:04 | spiralman | but its not entirely clear |
| 18:15:34 | mark_ | i know |
| 18:15:37 | mark_ | any other way? |
| 18:15:42 | spiralman | perhaps it makes more sense to somebody who plays chess |
| 18:15:50 | spiralman | black checks white? |
| 18:16:29 | mark_ | yeah thats better |
| 18:17:01 | WiseGuy58 | wb honeypea |
| 18:17:09 | honeypea | oh hey WiseGuy58 :) |
| 18:17:22 | mark_ | cheers spiralman |
| 18:17:31 | spiralman | np |
| 18:21:19 | mark_ | /usr/include/stdio.h:30: syntax error before string constant |
| 18:21:24 | mark_ | /usr/include/stdio.h:633: parse error before `}' |
| 18:21:26 | mark_ | grr |
| 18:21:40 | spiralman | hehe |
| 18:21:52 | mark_ | i've got pages of silly errors |
| 18:21:56 | mark_ | engineio.h:38: warning: `class QMetaObject * staticMetaObject()' declared `static' but never defined |
| 18:22:04 | mark_ | core.h:108: type/value mismatch at argument 1 in template parameter list for `template <class type> QList<type>' |
| 18:24:53 | mark_ | whoah shit |
| 18:25:16 | mark_ | fuck |
| 18:27:35 | lanbo | hey, is it there a free (with adds) version of opera? I'd like to see how it perfoms on my IPAQ ... ;-) |
| 18:27:41 | spiralman | no |
| 18:28:00 | spiralman | the only way to get it on the ipaq is to rip it off a Z rom image |
| 18:28:08 | spiralman | and i dont know if anybody has really tried it... |
| 18:28:11 | mark_ | i did |
| 18:28:13 | mark_ | it doesn't work |
| 18:28:26 | lanbo | LOL I guess that was not very legal... |
| 18:28:28 | spiralman | my guess is, it performs about as well as it does on the Z, since they are basically the same device |
| 18:28:37 | mark_ | lanbo: no, it wasn't |
| 18:28:38 | lanbo | I don't have a Z |
| 18:28:42 | mark_ | and they had copy protection in ther |
| 18:29:00 | lanbo | mark_: just kidding... |
| 18:29:19 | lanbo | mark_: I guess it would have not been legal distributing it... |
| 18:29:31 | mark_ | lanbo: wasn't legal me trying prolly |
| 18:29:34 | mark_ | but who cares |
| 18:29:36 | mark_ | :) |
| 18:30:23 | spiralman | yeah, would be nice if they and hancom would pull their heads out of their asses, and at least sell an ipkg to non Z users, if not offer a trial for download... |
| 18:30:26 | treke|home | mark_ : sure it was copy protected? |
| 18:30:52 | treke|home | mark_ : I think probably missed something, one of the sharp guys was working on a script to back all that stuff up for openzaurus users |
| 18:31:36 | lanbo | mark_:does the zaurus license say anything about redistributing the ROM apps? |
| 18:32:06 | lanbo | It would be nice having hancom.... |
| 18:33:24 | spiralman | anybody here familiar w/ QMimeSource? |
| 18:33:46 | treke|home | hancom is easy to find... |
| 18:34:12 | honeypea | can anyone give me a clue how to sync with QtopiaDesktop? is the desktop on my pc supposed to just see my ipaq and prompt to sync? or do i need to run something on my ipaq? |
| 18:34:23 | honeypea | or is their an IP trick like with Intellisync? |
| 18:34:37 | spiralman | honeypea: did you set the linkver file correctly? |
| 18:35:07 | honeypea | well, i set it as per your wiki page for Intellisync? |
| 18:35:16 | spiralman | honeypea: yeah |
| 18:35:21 | honeypea | hmm |
| 18:35:35 | honeypea | i wondered if im missing a program to kick it off on the desktop? |
| 18:35:37 | spiralman | honeypea: w/ that set correctly, all you should have to do is point qtopiadesktop at your ipaqs ip |
| 18:35:53 | honeypea | oh, ok thats what i dont get :) how do i point it |
| 18:35:55 | spiralman | honeypea: did you set up the security app in opie |
| 18:36:03 | honeypea | i have a feeling im being horribly blind |
| 18:36:07 | spiralman | honeypea: should be a config somewhere |
| 18:36:22 | lanbo | honeypa: Just make sure to have this IP: 192.168.129.201 in the IPAQ |
| 18:36:24 | spiralman | honeypea: ive never gotten qtopia desktop to run properly, so i cant help you there... |
| 18:36:26 | honeypea | in QtopiaDesktop? |
| 18:36:37 | spiralman | lanbo: not necessary w/ qtopia desktop |
| 18:36:39 | honeypea | lanbo, i cant change my ipaq IP though! |
| 18:36:51 | spiralman | lanbo: in fact, its not necessary w/ intellisync either |
| 18:36:58 | honeypea | im trying to sync over wireless, btw |
| 18:37:20 | honeypea | ok, what i dont get is this: what *is* the sync program called, and should i be seeing it on my desktop? |
| 18:37:25 | spiralman | honeypea: i synced w/ qtopia desktop on a windows machine to my ipaq connected through usb on another linux machine |
| 18:37:37 | spiralman | honeypea: its all built into the one qtopia desktop binary |
| 18:37:58 | spiralman | honeypea: in there, there should be a dialog that lets you set the ip of the ipaq, you set that, and then it should sync w/ it |
| 18:38:03 | lanbo | You can change the IP on the qtopiadesktop setting menu but this won't work! The app is broken. At least with the very last one... |
| 18:38:03 | honeypea | so, does it just notice the ipaq's ip as active, and a "sync" button pop up..? |
| 18:38:13 | spiralman | honeypea: if you have the security app install and configured properly on the ipaq |
| 18:38:32 | spiralman | honeypea: when you click "ok" in the dialog, it automatically tries to sync w/ that ip |
| 18:38:35 | lanbo | honeypea: You can change the IPAQ IP just modiffying your /etc/ppp/peers/ipaq fiņe |
| 18:38:44 | honeypea | ok.. so i set the security app on the desktop and the ipaq ok for each other? |
| 18:38:49 | honeypea | and then click ok? |
| 18:38:54 | spiralman | lanbo: not if he is using usb net, or wireless (which he just said he is) |
| 18:39:08 | spiralman | honeypea: security app only on ipaq |
| 18:39:08 | lanbo | spiralman: ouch! sorry :-P |
| 18:39:25 | spiralman | lanbo: sorry, if i came off as rude there... |
| 18:39:31 | lanbo | np |
| 18:39:32 | honeypea | isnt sure about the he, but ok :) |
| 18:39:39 | honeypea | ok... so.. |
| 18:39:52 | spiralman | honeypea: install opie-security or whatever its called on the ipaq |
| 18:40:00 | honeypea | its just copying xml files between the two really? |
| 18:40:04 | honeypea | ok i have that |
| 18:40:09 | spiralman | honeypea: open it up, and make sure syncing from your desktop's ip is allowed |
| 18:40:22 | honeypea | i thought maybe i was looking for a program equivalent to WinCE's ActiveSync.. |
| 18:40:32 | lanbo | treke|home: what do you mean with "hancom is easy to find"? |
| 18:40:35 | honeypea | yes, theyre allowed in both |
| 18:40:49 | spiralman | honeypea: both? |
| 18:40:51 | lanbo | treke|home: Is is available on the IPAQ? Is it free? |
| 18:41:08 | honeypea | in security on desktop and ipaq |
| 18:41:27 | spiralman | honeypea: desktop has a security app? where? |
| 18:41:57 | honeypea | so, you're not supposed to initiate the sync as such, spiralman, it just happens when the ip's.. coincide? |
| 18:42:02 | treke|home | lanbo : its not free. but its easy to find if you look around :) |
| 18:42:14 | George- | mark_: Opera for Qt/E has copy protection? |
| 18:42:16 | George- | WTF??? |
| 18:42:16 | spiralman | honeypea: when qtopia desktop starts up, it automatically tries to sync |
| 18:42:18 | George- | spiralman: yeh, I emailed them to see if I could get a trial version or a time bombed version to see how well it would fare on my Psion 5mx |
| 18:42:21 | George- | spiralman: I didn't even get a reply |
| 18:42:23 | George- | surely, it's legal to use the ROM apps on the licensed machine, whether it's running OZ, TrollTechs crap etc |
| 18:42:23 | treke|home | I wanted to to try it and it took about 5 minutes with google |
| 18:42:27 | George- | anyway |
| 18:42:28 | George- | Konq/E rocks over Opera anyway |
| 18:42:37 | honeypea | oh.. hmm ok spiralman, i must be missing something.. i'll have a play :) |
| 18:42:38 | George- | what type of a power cord does the Z use? |
| 18:42:39 | George- | a 2 part one? |
| 18:42:39 | George- | or a single lead? |
| 18:42:41 | George- | bah |
| 18:42:43 | George- | wrong channel |
| 18:45:12 | spiralman | hrm, is anybody familiar with QMimeSource? |
| 18:47:39 | treke|home | lanbo : its three different programs |
| 18:47:42 | mark_ | /usr/include/stdio.h:633: parse error before `}' |
| 18:47:42 | mark_ | ggrrrrr |
| 18:48:09 | lanbo | treke|home: ok. |
| 18:48:21 | lanbo | treke|home: .... [ 15%] |
| 18:48:23 | spiralman | mark_: try running make clean in your source... |
| 18:48:29 | lanbo | treke|home: thanks ;-) |
| 18:49:00 | mark_ | spiralman: oh i've done that |
| 18:49:01 | mark_ | many times |
| 18:49:02 | mark_ | :) |
| 18:49:19 | spiralman | mark_: k, just checking... |
| 18:49:26 | mark_ | this is just silly |
| 18:50:28 | lanbo | treke|home: It's strange... I found newer versions than the one coming on the Z... |
| 18:50:41 | spiralman | is away: brb |
| 18:50:57 | lanbo | treke|home: and and there are no official upgrades... |
| 18:53:58 | oachkatzlschwoaf | who |
| 18:55:12 | lanbo | Any killer game for opie? |
| 18:55:36 | treke|home | strategic assault |
| 18:55:58 | lanbo | treke|home: d'ya know the web page? |
| 18:56:13 | lanbo | treke|home: sounds like shooting game |
| 18:56:27 | treke|home | www.eongames.com |
| 18:56:34 | lanbo | treke|home: ok |
| 18:56:34 | treke|home | kinda like command and conquer |
| 18:56:49 | lanbo | treke|home: also $$$? |
| 18:56:52 | treke|home | yes |
| 18:57:03 | lanbo | :-( |
| 19:11:25 | lanbo | apart form strategic assault, is it there any action like good game? |
| 19:11:38 | lanbo | what about 3D? |
| 19:14:19 | spiralman | is back |
| 19:14:43 | spiralman | lanbo: doom should be able to run, but i dont think anybody has made it available easilly in opie... |
| 19:16:02 | lanbo | spiralman: doom? Do you mean it's available only for X11? |
| 19:16:15 | spiralman | lanbo: there are ports that run in the framebuffer |
| 19:16:31 | spiralman | lanbo: i dont know how well one fb app will run when another (opie) is already running though |
| 19:16:58 | lanbo | spiralman: not an easy task... I guess |
| 19:16:58 | spiralman | lanbo: presumably, you could write a script that callse /etc/init.d/qpe stop then runs doom, then calls /etc/init.d/qpe start |
| 19:17:51 | spiralman | the thing is, they all use SDL these days |
| 19:17:51 | hash | fb version of doom? |
| 19:17:56 | spiralman | yeah... |
| 19:18:05 | hash | that actually might be fun |
| 19:18:08 | hash | doom on a ipaq |
| 19:18:28 | hash | there are SDL libs for qte? |
| 19:19:35 | spiralman | no |
| 19:19:41 | spiralman | and i dont think thats the optimal solution |
| 19:19:47 | spiralman | QT isnt very fast for that kind of thing |
| 19:19:54 | hash | lanbo: you have doom for arm? |
| 19:20:07 | spiralman | would be better to stop opie, run doom, and then start opie back up again... |
| 19:20:10 | lanbo | hash: I used to play with PPC... |
| 19:20:14 | lanbo | Not with opie |
| 19:20:17 | hash | i see |
| 19:20:24 | hash | ppc embedded? |
| 19:20:53 | spiralman | should just be a matter of cross compiling SDL without X or GL support, and then cross compiling doom w/ that SDL lib... |
| 19:20:57 | lanbo | ppc=M$ pocket pcx |
| 19:21:11 | hash | i see |
| 19:21:16 | hash | i thought... the other ppc |
| 19:21:30 | lanbo | :-P |
| 19:22:15 | hash | dang.. i wish the gnuboy port could scale the screen size |
| 20:03:00 | mark_ | spiralman: ping |
| 20:03:29 | spiralman | mark_: png |
| 20:03:31 | spiralman | pong even |
| 20:03:34 | mark_ | spiralman: heh |
| 20:03:42 | mark_ | I think I sent you a .tar.gz of knights a while back |
| 20:03:49 | mark_ | or sent you to a url |
| 20:03:53 | mark_ | do you have a copy? |
| 20:03:55 | spiralman | yeah |
| 20:04:04 | spiralman | need it? |
| 20:04:37 | mark_ | yes please |
| 20:04:43 | spiralman | can you accept dcc? |
| 20:04:46 | mark_ | yeah |
| 20:05:01 | mark_ | when is it dated? |
| 20:05:24 | spiralman | 2002-05-22 |
| 20:05:34 | mark_ | ouch :) |
| 20:05:34 | mark_ | heh |
| 20:05:43 | spiralman | yep, its old... |
| 20:06:01 | mark_ | its got what I want :) |
| 20:06:14 | mark_ | cheers |
| 20:07:21 | spiralman | cool |
| 20:07:57 | mark_ | shall be a good boy and back up in future |
| 20:08:37 | spiralman | hehe |
| 20:26:17 | mark_ | /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: BFD 2.11.92.0.12.3 20011121 internal error, aborting at elf32-i386.c line 2028 in elf_i386_relocate_section |
| 20:26:18 | mark_ | lovely |
| 20:52:39 | spiralman | i have a function called data(qstring, qstring), and in it, i need to call the overloaded function data(qstring) from the same class, how do i do that? |
| 20:52:56 | spiralman | i thought it would just work, but i get errors that im not calling data w/ enough parameters |
| 20:53:34 | bowser | Hi ppl |
| 20:53:48 | spiralman | nvermind, typo |
| 20:53:51 | spiralman | hey bowser |
| 20:54:06 | bowser | Can anyone tell me how to install linux on my compaq ipaq h3870? |
| 20:54:22 | mark_ | spiralman: make clean j ust did the same again! |
| 20:54:23 | mark_ | grr |
| 20:54:30 | mark_ | leaves it for a while |
| 20:54:44 | bowser | I've got the bootloader installed and loaded, but now i don't know how to go on.... |
| 20:55:08 | spiralman | bowser: ok, first you want to install familiar |
| 20:55:22 | spiralman | bowser: so get the root image that you want, and install that with load root |
| 20:55:24 | bowser | uhm |
| 20:55:27 | spiralman | bowser: read the instructions |
| 20:55:51 | bowser | spiralman: I don't know how to make a terminal connection.. |
| 20:56:11 | spiralman | bowser: this isnt really the channel for this, but ok... |
| 20:56:22 | spiralman | bowser: minicom in linux, hyperterminal in windows |
| 20:56:33 | spiralman | give it the settings listed in the instructions |
| 20:58:50 | bowser | hmm ok i think i've got it... |
| 20:58:52 | bowser | thank you |
| 20:59:01 | spiralman | np |
| 20:59:02 | bowser | has anyone been on the linuxtag? |
| 21:00:18 | spiralman | some of the people here attended, but they arent arround at the moment, i dont think... |
| 21:00:32 | spiralman | Harlekin was showing off opie there, i think... |
| 21:01:06 | bowser | Hmm |
| 21:01:26 | bowser | I've been there today and i've seen opie so I thought I could install it.. |
| 21:01:41 | bowser | but as linux newbee it isn't really easy.... |
| 21:02:36 | mark_ | bowser: you following instructions at www.handhelds.org? |
| 21:02:41 | bowser | Yep |
| 21:02:54 | mark_ | bowser: where you stuck? |
| 21:02:55 | bowser | But i don't know how to configure minicom now... |
| 21:03:11 | bowser | Do you speak german *s* |
| 21:03:16 | mark_ | ein bischen |
| 21:03:20 | bowser | Wow |
| 21:03:59 | bowser | I'm speaking english, it's OK... it would be just easier to talk german but its OK :-) |
| 21:04:18 | mark_ | ich kann Englisch besser als Deutsch sprechen |
| 21:04:53 | bowser | Lol |
| 21:04:53 | bowser | OK |
| 21:05:00 | bowser | Then lets talk english |
| 21:05:07 | mark_ | yep :) |
| 21:05:10 | bowser | Can U tell me how to configure minicom? |
| 21:05:16 | spiralman | control A |
| 21:05:21 | mark_ | do Control A Z |
| 21:05:23 | bowser | Coz I absolutely don't know.. |
| 21:05:32 | spiralman | maybe Z, maybe not |
| 21:05:36 | bowser | Wait |
| 21:05:37 | mark_ | dontrol A, then Z brings up help |
| 21:05:42 | bowser | I've got an error now |
| 21:05:45 | spiralman | when you type control A, itll tell you what to type to get help |
| 21:05:46 | bowser | minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler |
| 21:05:50 | spiralman | mark_: its not always Z |
| 21:06:12 | bowser | An Input/Output error.. |
| 21:06:22 | spiralman | it should be /dev/ttyS0 |
| 21:06:27 | bowser | OK |
| 21:06:38 | spiralman | assuming COM1 |
| 21:06:48 | bowser | But I don't know at witch port my modem is... |
| 21:06:55 | spiralman | is it internal? |
| 21:07:01 | bowser | Now |
| 21:07:03 | bowser | external |
| 21:07:14 | bowser | lets check it ;-) |
| 21:07:19 | spiralman | well, try 0, if that doesnt work, try S1 |
| 21:08:17 | bowser | minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler |
| 21:08:24 | bowser | still the same error... |
| 21:09:19 | mark_ | spiralman: ah ok |
| 21:09:21 | spiralman | S0, not s0 |
| 21:10:25 | bowser | Its the right port i guess, coz when i push the calendar button on my ipaq it returns an error: |
| 21:10:37 | bowser | boot> ser_con |
| 21:10:38 | bowser | Don't understand command>ser_con< Try help for a command list. |
| 21:10:50 | spiralman | so minicom is running? |
| 21:11:01 | bowser | yeah |
| 21:11:09 | spiralman | so, when are you getting the problem? |
| 21:11:25 | bowser | when i push the calendar button |
| 21:11:49 | bowser | perhaps another error in the connection? |
| 21:11:54 | spiralman | no, the minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler |
| 21:12:05 | spiralman | when do you get that error |
| 21:12:26 | bowser | No, this was the tty"s"0 |
| 21:12:38 | bowser | I've corrected it to ttyS0 now it works |
| 21:12:56 | mark_ | bowser: pretty much everything in linux is case sensitiv |
| 21:13:04 | spiralman | oh, ok |
| 21:13:06 | bowser | that means? |
| 21:13:16 | bowser | So now I'm connected |
| 21:13:18 | spiralman | bowser: that means that S is different from s |
| 21:13:26 | spiralman | bowser: and linux knows it |
| 21:13:30 | spiralman | bowser: ok |
| 21:13:30 | bowser | I know... |
| 21:13:36 | spiralman | bowser: now, control a |
| 21:13:45 | spiralman | then type whatever key it tells you to get help |
| 21:13:53 | bowser | CTRL-A Z for help |115200 8N1 | NOR | Minicom 2.00.0 | VT102 | Offline |
| 21:14:01 | spiralman | ok |
| 21:14:30 | bowser | is that what you wanted me to do? |
| 21:14:35 | spiralman | yes, hold on |
| 21:14:48 | spiralman | after typing control a, type o |
| 21:14:59 | bowser | OK |
| 21:15:02 | bowser | and now? |
| 21:15:03 | spiralman | then go to "serial port setup" or whatever it is in german |
| 21:15:13 | bowser | It's english |
| 21:15:22 | bowser | OK |
| 21:15:22 | spiralman | make sure that hardware and software flow control are both off |
| 21:15:32 | bowser | yeah it's off.. |
| 21:15:35 | spiralman | both? |
| 21:15:50 | bowser | I've turned it off 10 min. ago |
| 21:15:53 | bowser | yeah |
| 21:16:06 | spiralman | ok, escape till you get back to your boot> prompt |
| 21:16:11 | bowser | F - Hardware Flow Control : No - Software Flow Control : No |
| 21:16:18 | bowser | ok |
| 21:16:23 | spiralman | now, you have to install a root image |
| 21:16:33 | spiralman | follow the instructions on handhelds.org |
| 21:16:37 | bowser | OK |
| 21:16:40 | bowser | Thank you :-) |
| 21:16:42 | spiralman | np |
| 21:16:53 | spiralman | if you need help, ill still be here, or in #handhelds.org |
| 21:17:39 | bowser | May I ask U where U'r from spiralman? |
| 21:18:13 | spiralman | texas, in the US |
| 21:19:12 | bowser | Cool |
| 21:20:21 | mark_ | right, knight all (hehehe) |
| 21:20:33 | bowser | good night mark_ |
| 21:22:17 | spiralman | mark_: night... |
| 22:02:50 | bowser | Hi Harlekin |
| 22:03:00 | Harlekin | re |
| 22:03:57 | bowser | Harlekin are you german? |
| 22:04:05 | Harlekin | yes |
| 22:04:15 | bowser | Hmm |
| 22:04:23 | bowser | warst du aufm Linuxtag heute? |
| 22:05:19 | Harlekin | yes |
| 22:05:56 | bowser | Hmm dann glaube ich wir kennen uns... |
| 22:06:14 | bowser | Muss man hier englisch reden? |
| 22:08:23 | bowser | Harlekin |
| 22:08:24 | bowser | ? |
| 22:08:29 | bowser | Are you still there? |
| 22:08:45 | Harlekin | yes |
| 22:08:54 | Harlekin | opie is english |
| 22:09:05 | bowser | OK then I'll talk english to you |
| 22:09:05 | Harlekin | 50 % here only speak english |
| 22:09:10 | bowser | I know.. |
| 22:09:53 | bowser | I was on the linuxtag today and asked someone how to install linux on my H3870 |
| 22:09:57 | bowser | was that you? |
| 22:10:00 | Harlekin | maybe |
| 22:10:05 | Harlekin | cannot remember to much |
| 22:10:14 | bowser | lol |
| 22:10:21 | bowser | it was after 3pm |
| 22:11:02 | bowser | can you please help me with a problem? |
| 22:11:23 | bowser | the others are english and don't understand the problem the german minicom returns |
| 22:11:59 | Harlekin | #opie.de |
| 22:12:10 | bowser | ah! |
| 22:12:17 | bowser | Join /opie.de |
| 22:12:20 | bowser | oops |
| 22:12:21 | bowser | shit |
| 22:15:44 | spiralman | Harlekin: you ever dealt w/ QMimeSourceFactory s? |
| 22:17:28 | Harlekin | not yet |
| 22:17:33 | spiralman | hrm... |
| 22:18:17 | spiralman | im setting the factory to my own subclass of it in QTextBrowser, but when i call setSource, it doesnt seem to be using my subclass, but the default one instead... |
| 22:18:17 | Harlekin | spiralman: any great changes in cvs? except kergoths accident |
| 22:18:17 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 22:18:24 | spiralman | Harlekin: not that i know of |
| 22:18:27 | spiralman | : ) |
| 22:19:59 | Harlekin | what is calc2 |
| 22:20:55 | spiralman | i think its some new calculator... |
| 22:20:59 | spiralman | but im not sure... |
| 22:21:44 | spiralman | you know of any other places to ask about my mimetype problem? |
| 22:23:16 | Harlekin | ask again tomorrow |
| 22:23:32 | spiralman | ok |
| 22:23:37 | Harlekin | 100% flattend |
| 22:23:40 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 22:23:48 | Harlekin | cvs looks like in bad shape |
| 22:23:48 | spiralman | hrm, ill try kde-devel |
| 22:23:51 | Harlekin | lots of U |
| 22:23:56 | Harlekin | in basic stuff |
| 22:24:05 | Harlekin | U taskbar/launcherview.cpp |
| 22:24:07 | Harlekin | ? |
| 22:24:11 | Harlekin | who did that |
| 22:24:14 | Harlekin | is still accident |
| 22:24:23 | Harlekin | or did he rename launcher to taskbar |
| 22:24:55 | spiralman | i dont know |
| 22:25:05 | spiralman | check the cvs mail archives i guess |
| 22:29:52 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 22:29:59 | Harlekin | hope he did not break anything |
| 22:35:45 | Harlekin | man |
| 22:35:48 | Harlekin | i am tired |
| 22:36:55 | Harlekin | ljp: ping |
| 22:36:55 | Harlekin | ljp: ping |
| 22:37:36 | ljp | pong |
| 22:40:57 | Harlekin | ljp: any news from your side? |
| 22:42:31 | ljp | side of what? |
| 22:43:06 | Harlekin | hehe |
| 22:43:09 | Harlekin | changes to cvs |
| 22:43:25 | Harlekin | lt booth staff was locked out pretty much for 5 days |
| 22:43:27 | ljp | I thought kergoth bACKED IT AL LOUT |
| 22:43:29 | Harlekin | no real net connection here |
| 22:43:30 | ljp | opps |
| 22:43:40 | Harlekin | ljp: is he finished yet? |
| 22:43:44 | Harlekin | ljp: what is taskbar/ |
| 22:44:11 | ljp | sounds like qpe's launcher |
| 22:44:30 | ljp | I havent done a cvs up yet ;) |
| 22:44:36 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 22:44:42 | Harlekin | looks like it need more cleaning |
| 22:44:48 | Harlekin | i hope we wont loose anything there |
| 22:44:59 | Harlekin | that was really _not_ good |
| 22:45:56 | ljp | just do cvs up -CPdA -D 2002_05_06 or somthing like that |
| 22:46:14 | ljp | 06_05 mayne |
| 22:47:01 | Harlekin | i know |
| 22:47:03 | Harlekin | but still |
| 22:47:12 | Harlekin | wanted to continue working tomorrow |
| 22:47:38 | Harlekin | http://www.pl-berichte.de/berichte/lt2002/abild/bild-013.html |
| 22:47:44 | Harlekin | http://www.pl-berichte.de/berichte/lt2002/abild/bild-014.html |
| 22:48:20 | spiralman | cool |
| 22:48:42 | ljp | heh nice screenshot |
| 22:48:50 | Harlekin | could all awake devels please join the "special #" ? |
| 22:49:15 | spiralman | what is it? |
| 23:48:26 | Harlekin | ibot: message for kergoth: is taskbar needed for something or did you just forgot it during clean up session .-) |