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| 00:52.42 | Battousai | allo mother, ave you idden moy atchet? |
| 00:59.58 | Battousai | owies |
| 01:01.07 | Battousai | how do i force the lcd off on a collie? say, for the purposes of it serving as a music player or such |
| 01:02.35 | hardwire | read the source, luke :) |
| 01:02.48 | hardwire | rather |
| 01:02.50 | hardwire | grep the source :) |
| 01:03.18 | Battousai | Luke-Jr: got that? ;) |
| 01:04.15 | Battousai | switchLCD(bool on) in a serverapp class doesnt really help me though :) |
| 01:04.35 | Battousai | well it does but i dont really feel like writing an opie applet for it |
| 01:07.33 | hardwire | heh |
| 01:07.43 | hardwire | thats where you grep for the switchLCD function in the base libs :) |
| 01:07.47 | hardwire | where its defined. |
| 01:07.52 | hardwire | and there on and so forth. |
| 01:08.09 | hardwire | because I don't know how many people in this room have that kind of information memorized :) |
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| 01:33.19 | seva | if one is to install OZ should i rename gpe-image.rootfs.img to initrd.bin? |
| 01:41.53 | Luke-Jr | Battousai: hmm? |
| 01:42.06 | seva | ok well i tried installing 3.5.2 assuming above |
| 01:42.15 | seva | it seems to stop booting at the gpe 2.5 welcome screen |
| 01:42.17 | Battousai | Luke-Jr: get it? he said luke...and i...nevermind |
| 01:42.22 | seva | uh.. never mind |
| 01:42.24 | Luke-Jr | Battousai: yea |
| 01:42.26 | seva | it just takes a very very long time |
| 01:42.34 | Luke-Jr | Battousai: tho usually, it's "Use the source" o.o |
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| 06:04.58 | darmou | looking forward to the next release of openzaurus:) |
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| 06:49.19 | Com[Plex] | hellooooo |
| 06:49.48 | Com[Plex] | `/j oe |
| 06:49.51 | Com[Plex] | shit |
| 06:53.02 | Com[Plex] | uh.. |
| 06:53.07 | Com[Plex] | I have an issue |
| 06:53.12 | Com[Plex] | the last two "versions" of openzaurus have not supported my ethernet card |
| 06:53.20 | Com[Plex] | the last version seemed to detect it okay, but not do anything with it. |
| 06:54.39 | Com[Plex] | 3.5.2 mounts the card, but says its an "unsupported card" when I click on the card manager icon in the tray/bar |
| 06:58.33 | Com[Plex] | ahah! |
| 06:59.00 | Com[Plex] | shit, it worked after I configured the network settings for eth0, and then remounted the nic card |
| 07:02.34 | Com[Plex] | how well is vnc working on the latest rev? |
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| 10:17.20 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.2 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
| 10:17.35 | RockClimber | have you tried obex-ftp on your laptop |
| 10:20.47 | Bernardo | no, only irobex_palm3 |
| 10:22.10 | RockClimber | I just got irobex_palm3 to work from the command line, seems it only fails when called by Opie |
| 10:23.07 | hrw|work | RockClimber: libopieobex0 installed? |
| 10:24.45 | RockClimber | yes |
| 10:25.07 | RockClimber | opie can beam to 6510 and laptop (winXP) but not nokia 6610i |
| 10:28.22 | hrw|work | hmm.. so maybe I should check with my 6310i |
| 10:30.03 | RockClimber | hrw|work, does libopieobex to the transfer or call "irobex_palm3". |
| 10:30.34 | Bernardo | RockClimber: did it send to your 6610i when you called it from the command line? |
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| 10:32.26 | RockClimber | Bernardo, yes |
| 10:33.38 | RockClimber | When I send from Opie, it tries to send, phone IR symbol goes solid, nothing appears, then IR-applet says "Nokia 6610i lost", followed by "Nokia 6610i found" |
| 10:35.22 | hrw|work | RockClimber: I dont know |
| 10:36.25 | Bernardo | For my 6600, it won't work at all |
| 10:39.58 | RockClimber | Bernardo, have you compiled openobex-apps for you laptop |
| 10:40.44 | Bernardo | yes, I had to get the gcc34 patch from oe to get it to build |
| 10:40.55 | Bernardo | I also have openobex 1.0.1 |
| 10:50.05 | RockClimber | Bernardo, try obex-ftp |
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| 10:53.25 | Bernardo | ok, I will |
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| 10:53.38 | Bernardo | does it run as server, or only sends? |
| 10:53.57 | RockClimber | dunno |
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| 12:27.24 | RockClimber | someone mentioned being able to open a serial console to an AT phone. How do you do this, I can't get it to connect? Do you have to load any modules, or kill irattach? |
| 12:31.31 | hrw|work | RockClimber: tried connecting to /dev/ircomm? |
| 12:31.49 | RockClimber | just hangs |
| 12:33.47 | RockClimber | perhaps I'm attaching wrong, what should I type |
| 12:34.17 | hrw|work | dont know |
| 12:34.36 | RockClimber | getty /dev/ircomm ? |
| 12:34.49 | hrw|work | try to google for it |
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| 14:38.05 | RockClimber | no luck with google, before lunch I'm sure I typed something which had an effect, but I'm not sure if I need have everything loaded (modules) to do AT over IR |
| 14:49.19 | hrw|work | rsync is nice |
| 14:49.37 | XorA | yeah, gpe initrd transfered in 5Meg instead of 22Meg |
| 14:52.11 | hrw|work | my first method of doing backups |
| 14:52.28 | XorA | pish, I wish gpe worked :-( |
| 14:53.03 | RockClimber | I see the gpe homepage has had a thorough doing up in the last few days |
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| 15:45.20 | lardman | bloody BT |
| 15:45.41 | lardman | uni network's been down all day - I'd been hoping my opie-image would be done by now |
| 15:48.57 | hrw|work | I build at home usually - but my home computer is in a box since moving and will stay there until I buy desk for it |
| 15:49.09 | lardman | :-D |
| 15:49.35 | lardman | I've only got a dial-up at home and can't afford to run OE from there |
| 15:50.01 | lardman | But it appears that my uni also use BT for their network infrastructure |
| 15:50.30 | lardman | at least they got it fixed I suppose (and as I couldn't be playing with my Z I've done some lab report marking) |
| 15:51.18 | lardman | (for those who aren't from the UK - BT=British Telecom) |
| 15:51.29 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 15:52.26 | hrw|work | uk version of tpsa |
| 15:53.34 | CoreDump|home | ah, btw, time to flash my Z |
| 15:54.08 | hrw|work | I hate my collie when have to flash it |
| 15:55.02 | CoreDump|home | why is that? |
| 15:55.07 | hrw|work | 1. flash 2. remove all unneded packages (too lazy to build own image :) 3. mount /dev/hda2 4. restore /etc/ parts from backup 5. move /opt/ to cf card |
| 15:55.10 | hrw|work | etc.. etc.. |
| 15:55.16 | XorA | lardman: Uni uses Super JANET, that shouldnt be running over BT lines |
| 15:55.16 | RockClimber | serial access to my phone is asking for a password "getty 38400 ircomm". I have tried all the codes I know for my phone, any idea what password this is (Nokia 6610i if that helps) |
| 15:56.00 | XorA | lardman: well non leased line BT lines anyway |
| 15:56.13 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: heh I use cardfs and "mhbackup" to restore /etc. |
| 15:56.22 | lardman | XorA: supposedly our connection to it is via BT leased lines or some such |
| 15:57.16 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I keep just few files from /etc/ - last time it was only /etc/pcmcia/ide.opts |
| 15:57.26 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 15:57.49 | tronik | mime type seems incorrect n icant dl it |
| 15:57.51 | CoreDump|home | i keep my ssh host and root keys and /e/n/interfaces |
| 15:57.58 | hrw|work | I think about changing pcmcia-cs package to support two partitions on cf cards right from OE |
| 15:58.01 | tronik | anything in opera |
| 15:58.12 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: been there done that |
| 15:58.15 | tronik | on collie 5000 |
| 15:58.37 | tronik | im trying to get some pkgs on this thing |
| 15:58.46 | hrw|work | tronik: using sharp-compat-libs |
| 15:58.58 | tronik | cause my sdcard hasnt come ibn yet |
| 15:58.58 | CoreDump|home | I've added support for an external script to /etc/pcmcia/ide in OE |
| 15:59.06 | tronik | i cabt flash to oz yet |
| 15:59.15 | lardman | Yay, Just got my powered hub, time to get my webcam driver compiled in OE |
| 15:59.22 | tronik | i got a wireless cf |
| 16:00.28 | tronik | hrml. im just trying to get some ipkgs on this thing...like ssh and vnc (clients not servs) |
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| 16:02.43 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: with my ide.opts hda2 is mounted automagically |
| 16:02.52 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: i c |
| 16:04.24 | XorA | hrw|work: there is precedent, mmc.agent file supports 4 partitions automatically |
| 16:05.00 | tronik | ok |
| 16:05.15 | CoreDump|home | /etc/sdcontrol (now) supports any number of partitions ;) |
| 16:05.16 | tronik | can i flash to oz with an sd card |
| 16:05.26 | tronik | on collie |
| 16:05.31 | CoreDump|home | tronik: not a 5000, nope |
| 16:05.37 | tronik | or does it have to be cf |
| 16:06.02 | hrw|work | XorA: I have one sd card now - sandisk 64M which I found so unreliable so I dont even use it |
| 16:06.20 | XorA | hrw|work: I couldnt survivie without SD |
| 16:06.38 | XorA | although my Z is dead for now until I can debug gpe |
| 16:06.47 | hrw|work | XorA: I have few megs free on / and all opie stuff is on cf |
| 16:07.25 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I mkfs.ext2 it and nearly each day had massive destruction derby on it |
| 16:07.28 | XorA | hrw|work: I need my wlan in CF |
| 16:07.39 | hrw|work | I want collie with 64M flash... |
| 16:07.45 | CoreDump|home | :( |
| 16:08.15 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 16:08.27 | hrw|work | I tested rboot recently... nice thing - until you want to suspend |
| 16:08.57 | hrw|work | my collie + sandisk + rboot on sd + suspend = greyed screen and death |
| 16:09.23 | XorA | hrw|work: does rboot still work out of box on current oe builds? |
| 16:10.02 | hrw|work | worked |
| 16:11.47 | XorA | hrw|work: must give it a try when I can get oe to make ext2 images |
| 16:12.00 | hrw|work | XorA: building ext2 images is easy |
| 16:13.09 | XorA | hrw|work: they dont work |
| 16:13.28 | XorA | hrw|work: last time I checked genext2 just generated garbage images that dont work |
| 16:15.51 | hrw|work | ah - never tested them |
| 16:19.43 | XorA | hrw|work: though I suppose I could get it to kick out a tar then use that to make an image by hand |
| 16:24.03 | hrw|work | sometimes I had a day when I think that ipaq 3(8|9)xx would be better then collie |
| 16:24.49 | XorA | hrw|work: Id miss the eyboard |
| 16:24.53 | XorA | keyboard |
| 16:26.18 | hrw|work | I would not miss 16MiB flash |
| 16:26.54 | XorA | hrw|work: get with the soldering :-) |
| 16:27.22 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: that's what CF and SD is for :) |
| 16:27.28 | XorA | hrw|work: chances are there is a pin compatible 64Meg version of the chip used, we used to do tat all the time at my old work |
| 16:29.24 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: with that fscking ipkg-link shit? no fscking way |
| 16:29.44 | CoreDump|home | heh works perfectly for me |
| 16:29.58 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: when libstdc++6 had 3.7MiB in size then after each reboot I HAD to ipkg-link add it |
| 16:30.05 | hrw|work | each reboot (so few times a day) |
| 16:30.16 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: it was a bug in 3.5.1 IIRC |
| 16:30.33 | XorA | hrw|work: why did ipkg-link suddenly need to be run every boot? It used to be done once, did jff2 lose support of symlinks? |
| 16:30.57 | hrw|work | XorA: some symlinks were gone |
| 16:31.15 | CoreDump|home | nahh, some crazy script went nuts and removed all "broken" symlinks of libraries on boot - before SD was mounted :) |
| 16:31.22 | XorA | hrw|work: It is behaviour I have noticed, it annoys me |
| 16:31.46 | XorA | CoreDump|home: ah, that explains it |
| 16:32.10 | lardman | Anyone know how to handle building kernel modules with 2.6? They are supposed to need to write to the kernel source tree - how should I pass that location across? |
| 16:32.13 | CoreDump|home | never saw this again after the bug was fixed |
| 16:32.18 | hrw|work | so I ignore existance of ipkg-link |
| 16:32.57 | XorA | unionfs interested me |
| 16:35.33 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I got my collie to suspend with rboot and sd by removing usbdmonitor |
| 16:35.47 | Bernardo | I found that was what was making my collie hang |
| 16:36.09 | hrw|work | Bernardo: on my collie usbdmonitor take care of usbnet |
| 16:36.13 | Bernardo | now I need to find why my collie is having problems with a 1GB sd card, but that is a different problem |
| 16:36.57 | Bernardo | I only get my collie to suspend and resume with usbnet if I put the lines "modprobe -r sa1100_bi; modprobe sa1100_bi" in the resume scripts |
| 16:37.26 | Bernardo | If I have usbdmonitor, or try to remove that module on the suspend script, it will hang 3 times out of five... |
| 16:39.10 | hrw|work | collie suxx |
| 16:39.32 | hrw|work | 2.4.18-sharp-shit suxx even more |
| 16:40.03 | XorA | hrw|work: sounds like slow progress is happening on 2.6 though |
| 16:40.49 | hrw|work | XorA: on collie the problem is sdcard part for which only kergoth have a docs |
| 16:41.58 | Bernardo | yep... but my financial director (translation: wife) doesn't ok buying a new pda |
| 16:42.04 | hrw|work | and first I have to buy a desk, then power iron solder and create some serial cables |
| 16:42.35 | hrw|work | Bernardo: if I will buy new pda then collie problems will be my problems - Ania will take it |
| 16:43.23 | Bernardo | hrw|work: serial cables for what? 2.6 on collie? |
| 16:43.29 | lardman | anyone know where I can grab the handhelds.org 2.6 kernel as a tarball? |
| 16:43.43 | hrw|work | lardman: http://treke.net/oe/source/ maybe? |
| 16:43.56 | hrw|work | someone have high-res photo of collie? |
| 16:44.13 | lardman | what the insides? |
| 16:44.45 | lardman | in which case, yes I do |
| 16:44.49 | hrw|work | no - screen part |
| 16:45.05 | lardman | how do you mean? |
| 16:45.08 | hrw|work | each collie has that ugly black plastic on right side of screen? |
| 16:45.27 | Bernardo | no... |
| 16:45.47 | Bernardo | only if the silver paint was removed... |
| 16:45.48 | XorA | hrw|work: mine did |
| 16:45.50 | hrw|work | http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/article023/zaurus.jpg?109,34 |
| 16:45.55 | hrw|work | like here |
| 16:46.17 | Bernardo | ah, that one. |
| 16:46.18 | Bernardo | yes |
| 16:46.19 | XorA | hrw|work: mine was like that from new |
| 16:46.32 | hrw|work | it looks like hand made - screen looks like little rotated to left |
| 16:46.37 | XorA | bugged the hell out of me |
| 16:46.51 | XorA | hrw|work: you must have same batch as mine :-) |
| 16:47.00 | lardman | I don't think mine has that - seemed fairly symmetrical |
| 16:47.09 | hrw|work | XorA: "this product was refurbished by sharp company" |
| 16:48.38 | hrw|work | I want to have spare cach to buy few pda |
| 16:50.08 | lardman | so you'll have a cache? :) |
| 16:50.19 | hrw|work | s/cach/cash |
| 16:50.20 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 16:50.35 | Bernardo | I just want a 760/860 to replace my collie... |
| 16:50.41 | hrw|work | lardman: I had L4 some months ago |
| 16:51.05 | lardman | hrw|work: What's L4? |
| 16:51.52 | XorA | next #oe developer that flys to Japan should take orders for cheap 860's :-) |
| 16:51.59 | hrw|work | hmm.. how to call in english... |
| 16:52.14 | hrw|work | paper which I get from doctor to get soe free days for being sick |
| 16:52.19 | hrw|work | s/soe/some |
| 16:52.26 | lardman | ok, sick-note? |
| 16:52.27 | XorA | sicknote |
| 16:52.33 | hrw|work | thx for word |
| 16:52.43 | XorA | or doctors line |
| 16:52.56 | lardman | Yay, opie-image has finished! |
| 16:53.20 | lardman | XorA: why's that? |
| 16:53.40 | XorA | lardman: no_max patch |
| 16:53.50 | lardman | that's fixed now |
| 16:54.01 | XorA | lardman: I think my CVSDATE is behind the fix |
| 16:54.09 | XorA | lardman: I cant be bothered fixing it now |
| 16:54.10 | lardman | Oh, I see |
| 16:54.47 | lardman | Right, time for me to get cracking on trying to add my ratoc card driver to the 2.6 kernel (hmm, sounds painful) |
| 16:55.02 | lardman | hence all the funny questions |
| 16:55.31 | lardman | (and my refering to the card, not the driver :)) |
| 16:56.20 | Bernardo | hrw|work: here we get only 50% income while on medical leave, how is it there in poland? |
| 16:56.23 | hrw|work | ok. time to go home (where I dont have network or desktop machine running) |
| 16:56.27 | hrw|work | Bernardo: 80% |
| 16:57.29 | Bernardo | we had the current President of the Comission as our prime minister... that was one of the ideas of his government |
| 16:57.50 | Bernardo | your home network is broken? |
| 16:58.14 | XorA | Bernardo: its good, but encourages me to skive as I hate my work |
| 16:58.16 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I moved |
| 16:58.26 | Bernardo | ok |
| 16:58.39 | hrw|work | Bernardo: network here is .... |
| 16:58.39 | Bernardo | XorA: I also hate my work... |
| 16:58.41 | Bernardo | :) |
| 16:59.00 | XorA | time me me to leave, cya |
| 16:59.08 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I have to start trying to get net access at the place I'm going to move to in a month |
| 16:59.10 | hrw|work | two choices: 1. 1000/128 for 130-150 pln or 2. 512/128 for 130 pln |
| 16:59.22 | hrw|work | network prices suxx |
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| 17:00.37 | lardman_ | looks like BT is still on the blink |
| 17:00.56 | lardman_ | how do I remove what was my previous login name? There are now two of me here |
| 17:03.30 | hrw|work | I hope that today I will finally get "new" keyboard |
| 17:04.22 | hrw|work | http://img03.allegro.pl/photos/oryginal/42/4289/428996/42899636 |
| 17:04.51 | hrw|work | bye all |
| 17:04.51 | lardman_ | not sure that's help my 2 finger typing |
| 17:05.14 | hrw|work | lardman: I use all hands fingers |
| 17:05.25 | lardman_ | broke my wrist - just getting back into typing now |
| 17:05.26 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:05.28 | lardman_ | bye |
| 17:05.57 | hrw|work | I hope that that keyboard will help me with wrists - they are pain sometimes |
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| 17:17.00 | lardman_ | does opie-meta build all of the opie-packages? |
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| 20:59.42 | kolla_ | ok, then so I should build on the zaurus itself? |
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