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| 11:19.50 | VoodooZ | NAiL, I noticed an update to glibc 2.5 intermediate in the latest HEAD pull. ANything to do with you? I know the guys in #oe were reporting good stability with it but I think they said slugos would need some extra work for it. |
| 11:39.29 | NAiL | not me |
| 11:39.35 | NAiL | dunno what it is |
| 11:41.52 | VoodooZ | ok. it must simply be their changes propagating to us. |
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| 12:50.58 | hooney | anyone know how to create the real time clock device ? |
| 12:52.43 | hooney | i am unable to use the hwclock utility now |
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| 16:47.40 | joshin | Sigh, still can't figure out how to build a libc 2.4 openslug build. |
| 16:48.08 | joshin | But I am currently building glibc-2.5 for my gentoo-slug. :) |
| 17:22.30 | VoodooZ | joshin, nice. ask the #oe guys as they seem to have good results with 2.5 |
| 17:23.01 | VoodooZ | Did you see my posting in nslu2-dev yahoo group about this? |
| 17:23.38 | joshin | VoodooZ, Both NAiL and I have without much success. I've already spent more time on it than I care to. |
| 17:23.41 | joshin | Are you stephane641 ? |
| 17:25.16 | VoodooZ | yep |
| 17:25.36 | VoodooZ | I unfortunately didn't get a chance to try myself as It's way beyond me. |
| 17:26.01 | joshin | libc-2.5 is building nicely... :) |
| 17:26.05 | joshin | so far. :) |
| 17:26.14 | VoodooZ | I've been learning how to do OE package to get my speech recognition software in there. (pocketsphinx) and it's much more complicated than I thought becuase of multiple tarballs... |
| 17:26.42 | NAiL | I could probably get my head wrapped around it given enough time, but I'm in the middle of a new job, moving to a new house, new gf, hacking the n2100, repairing my car and other stuff :-P |
| 17:26.45 | VoodooZ | check with the #oe guys, but they said something about the slugos missing some EABIT thingy or something. |
| 17:26.56 | NAiL | EABI |
| 17:26.57 | VoodooZ | ouch! sensory overload! |
| 17:27.04 | NAiL | the new binary ABI |
| 17:27.08 | VoodooZ | NAiL, yeah, that's it. |
| 17:27.19 | VoodooZ | that part kind of scared me. :) |
| 17:27.29 | NAiL | koen is the one that got EABI working AFAIK |
| 17:27.32 | VoodooZ | otherwise they seem to think it's pretty stable. |
| 17:27.51 | joshin | NAiL, I have a similarly long list of things taking up time. :) |
| 17:27.52 | VoodooZ | probably. he's the one who told me about it and posted the first results. |
| 17:28.18 | VoodooZ | Did the example .bb file from koen I posted useful? |
| 17:28.40 | NAiL | I think he pointed me in the same direction |
| 17:28.47 | VoodooZ | Did you notice the glibc .ipk on the first link? I'm not game though to install it! |
| 17:29.13 | NAiL | I looked at it, tried munging the stuff into the slugos config, failed, looked some more, became confused :-P |
| 17:29.40 | NAiL | joshin: Add to that list that I'm ADD and just gave up smoking two days ago. |
| 17:29.53 | NAiL | A goldfish out-focuses me anytime. |
| 17:30.28 | VoodooZ | hahaha. been there done that. |
| 17:30.30 | joshin | Oh yeah, I work at home with 2 kids under the age of 5. Even if I could focus, they interrupt. :) |
| 17:30.42 | NAiL | hehe |
| 17:31.37 | NAiL | I've got a couple dozen "small" projects that I want to get done |
| 17:31.46 | NAiL | stuff like adding a LCD to the n2100 |
| 17:32.20 | NAiL | I've got the LCD, I've got a pl2303 and everything I need. Except a hole in the case :-\ |
| 17:33.17 | koen | NAiL: the nslu2/slugos stuff needs an overhaul anyway |
| 17:33.34 | NAiL | koen: that isn't exactly a small task |
| 17:33.37 | koen | right |
| 17:34.25 | NAiL | what should be done in the overhaul? :) |
| 17:35.37 | koen | try building slugos for a !nslu2 or !slugos for nslu2 |
| 17:35.53 | NAiL | ah |
| 17:37.05 | koen | I'm not saying slugos should support other machines, but it would be nicer to have some seperation |
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| 17:38.48 | NAiL | haha |
| 17:43.34 | VoodooZ | I'm still trying to get that pocketsphinx working. |
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| 17:44.47 | VoodooZ | I got the two package in place but I have to figure out the whole staging thing... |
| 17:44.52 | VoodooZ | [g2]!!! |
| 17:45.21 | [g2] | VoodooZ hey! |
| 17:45.36 | VoodooZ | How's the man doing? |
| 17:45.49 | VoodooZ | Long time no see. I just recently started hanging around here again. |
| 17:45.58 | VoodooZ | I just missed the whole team spirit thing. |
| 17:47.34 | VoodooZ | [g2], how's the Loft stuff doing? |
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| 18:15.00 | [g2] | VoodooZ sorry :( I was on the phone for a bit |
| 18:15.25 | [g2] | VoodooZ hardware wise the Loft has been great |
| 18:15.35 | VoodooZ | [g2], no prob. I'm at work too so... |
| 18:15.42 | [g2] | sales wise, I've still got a bunch to learn :) |
| 18:16.07 | [g2] | I've been doing some services related to the platform |
| 18:16.13 | VoodooZ | [g2], I would highly recommend remodeling the web page to give you better exposure. |
| 18:16.24 | VoodooZ | Personally I love to have lot of specs and pixs. |
| 18:16.50 | VoodooZ | If the page is denude of details people might not trust it. |
| 18:16.57 | VoodooZ | nice. |
| 18:17.13 | VoodooZ | When is the 733mhz+ version coming? :) |
| 18:17.26 | VoodooZ | I'll definitely need more power for my next robot. |
| 18:17.44 | VoodooZ | Probably a PC for speech recognition/vision. or a few ARMs in parallel. |
| 18:17.52 | [g2] | I think for non-wireless apps or power/space contrainerd apps the platform is dead |
| 18:18.30 | VoodooZ | you mean the Loft specifically or IXP in general? |
| 18:18.44 | [g2] | probably both |
| 18:18.49 | VoodooZ | i see. |
| 18:19.11 | [g2] | time (and technology) stand still for no man |
| 18:19.19 | VoodooZ | damn right! |
| 18:19.38 | [g2] | clearly I think in the wireless space the platform has legs for a couple years |
| 18:19.54 | VoodooZ | yeah |
| 18:20.16 | [g2] | but other than that it's harder to imagine something that can't do something similar |
| 18:20.21 | koen | design a loft with one of them dual core IOPs |
| 18:20.23 | koen | :) |
| 18:20.31 | [g2] | hey koen |
| 18:20.39 | [g2] | the IOP are really slow |
| 18:20.51 | [g2] | on a price peformance basis |
| 18:21.17 | koen | or with a ixp2800 |
| 18:21.25 | [g2] | too expensive :) |
| 18:21.31 | koen | I would love a SMP chip with 2x 512kB cache |
| 18:21.34 | [g2] | it's not the '90s anymore :) |
| 18:21.56 | koen | you might have noticed lennert gave me a tour of his old workspace :) |
| 18:22.03 | [g2] | well I think we are at the point that you can emulate faster than the Loft |
| 18:22.11 | [g2] | cool |
| 18:22.19 | [g2] | lennert has some fun toys :) |
| 18:22.45 | VoodooZ | for vision stuff I would think fast mem access and lots of cache is key right? |
| 18:22.57 | [g2] | VoodooZ I've got a killer vision thing for you :) |
| 18:23.06 | VoodooZ | really? |
| 18:23.19 | [g2] | Oh MAN I think it'll rock your world :) |
| 18:23.25 | VoodooZ | hehehe |
| 18:23.34 | [g2] | are you sitting down ? |
| 18:23.52 | VoodooZ | yep. go ahead. I have to leave soon... |
| 18:23.58 | [g2] | got clean pants ? |
| 18:24.05 | VoodooZ | no. perfect. |
| 18:24.29 | [g2] | http://www.neurosaudio.com/osd/osd.asp |
| 18:24.55 | [g2] | pretty low power, arm926 + TI DSP |
| 18:25.07 | VoodooZ | looks good but I'll have to read it in a few minutes as I have to attend a quick meeting. |
| 18:25.09 | [g2] | handles ntsc/pal 720x480 |
| 18:25.14 | VoodooZ | brb. thanks give me more specs... |
| 18:25.39 | [g2] | it's a really open platform except for the TI stuff |
| 18:26.05 | koen | ibm has some nice ppc chips with hw mpeg2 as well |
| 18:26.50 | [g2] | koen any links ? |
| 18:27.27 | koen | there was a story on linuxdevices a while back |
| 18:28.51 | koen | [g2]: http://www-03.ibm.com/chips/products/digitalvideo/products/ppc.html |
| 18:40.06 | VoodooZ | I'm back. |
| 18:41.28 | [g2] | VoodooZ wb |
| 18:41.55 | [g2] | VoodooZ so this box does video recording and playback |
| 18:42.19 | [g2] | there's 64MB onboard and 16MB flash, plus CF/SD/USB 1.1/Ethernet |
| 18:42.47 | [g2] | I'd think you could grab video frames then sick the DSP on them |
| 18:43.16 | [g2] | the DSP platform is open yet, but I'll be something to watch |
| 18:43.44 | koen | they are changing it to dspfs in the omap tree to make it more generic |
| 18:43.59 | koen | I hope philips opens up their 'sea of dsp' stuff |
| 18:44.13 | [g2] | TI is changing it or l-a-k ? |
| 18:44.15 | koen | 'sea of dsp' = beowulf style clusters for dsps |
| 18:44.23 | koen | linux-omap |
| 18:44.56 | [g2] | that's TI's site right ? |
| 18:45.00 | koen | dunno |
| 18:45.10 | koen | it's the canonical source for omap stuff |
| 18:45.16 | VoodooZ | yeah but I would definitely need usb2 for the camera. |
| 18:45.40 | VoodooZ | well, I guess I could make my own camera stuff but that becomes complicated pretty quick. |
| 18:45.52 | [g2] | sissy :) |
| 18:45.53 | VoodooZ | But it looks nice. |
| 18:45.56 | VoodooZ | hehehe |
| 18:45.59 | VoodooZ | damn right. |
| 18:46.08 | [g2] | afraid of a little hw ? |
| 18:46.28 | VoodooZ | yeah, I'm mediocre at s/w & h/w! :) |
| 18:47.22 | VoodooZ | the fact that slugos is getting more and more mature is another reason I would hate to leave it. |
| 18:48.43 | VoodooZ | But then again, I could simply interface a cheapy portable to the slug for my next project... |
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| 18:58.32 | VoodooZ | I'll log back from home.... |
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