| 00:00.06 | EvilDevil | eFfeM-log, i've just read the http://trac.nslu2-linux.org/slugos/ticket/12, so I guess you're already after it ;) |
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| 00:19.58 | dr_nick | hi |
| 00:20.28 | EvilDevil | dr_nick, don't you need to get some sleep? |
| 00:20.50 | dr_nick | :-) |
| 00:20.51 | dr_nick | nope |
| 00:21.31 | EvilDevil | neither do I ;) |
| 00:21.48 | dr_nick | i've been up too late in the last two days, now i can't sleep at night when i should |
| 00:23.25 | EvilDevil | sounds familiar ;) had to work on thursday from 22-6, friday from 22-2 and I was invited on a birthday-party yesterday... which i left @ 4am ;) |
| 00:24.25 | dr_nick | i'm running a small python script right now. it just checks /sys/block/sda/stat for changes and tells me how long it's been idle. |
| 00:25.37 | dr_nick | the results are like 79, 7, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 39, 59, 95 seconds etc... in the last few minutes. |
| 00:26.12 | dr_nick | so i can't even think about spinning down my disk before i get this activity fixed |
| 00:26.31 | dr_nick | 22-6 ? you're a barkeeper? |
| 00:27.15 | EvilDevil | find / -xdev -mmin -5 |
| 00:28.12 | dr_nick | SLUG:~# find / -xdev -mmin -5 |
| 00:28.12 | dr_nick | SLUG:~# |
| 00:28.15 | dr_nick | no, nothing |
| 00:29.22 | EvilDevil | nope, I'm working part-time as a "Abrufstudent" |
| 00:29.36 | dr_nick | ?? |
| 00:31.49 | EvilDevil | find ... shows me pretty everything in /var/log/ |
| 00:32.51 | dr_nick | /var/log is a symlink pointing to /memstick/log which is ... a usb flash stick |
| 00:35.50 | EvilDevil | does increasing the number shows something? |
| 00:39.15 | dr_nick | no, nothing. i've put everything that's changing periodically (/var/log, mrtg, openvpn status, samba browse.dat) on a flash stick |
| 00:40.41 | EvilDevil | http://kanotix.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-17688-highlight-nslu2.html ? |
| 00:43.55 | dr_nick | thanks, i've seen that one. |
| 00:45.27 | dr_nick | i just switched the swap off. didn't have disk activity since |
| 00:46.21 | EvilDevil | ... :P |
| 00:48.14 | dr_nick | oh, no that's just been lucky 90 seconds... disk is still being accessed all the time |
| 00:56.58 | EvilDevil | bad luck ;) |
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| 09:33.27 | eFfeM | EvilDevil saw your pwc msg will check it |
| 09:40.47 | eFfeM | EvilDevil, the pwc on the feed is oooold (19 jan 2006) |
| 09:40.58 | eFfeM | since then the kernel has been upgraded |
| 09:41.31 | eFfeM | unfortunately also at some point pwc was marked as broken and did not get recompiled, but the old ipk for the old kernel is still there |
| 09:41.51 | eFfeM | NAiL will get newer versions on the feed in the near future. |
| 09:42.14 | eFfeM | For now you can grab a copy from 84.87.135.248/nslu2 |
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| 14:11.17 | pixie__ | hi |
| 14:14.42 | eFfeM | hi pixie__ |
| 14:26.08 | pixie__ | any gotchas to running from flash with no external storage i should worry about? |
| 14:41.45 | eFfeM | no external flash either? then just install only one or two small packages, otherwise you'll exhaust the flash |
| 14:47.56 | pixie__ | ive got 2.5MB free with all the packages i want installed :) |
| 14:48.09 | pixie__ | its just being a 1 port console server so ive removed all the fs modules etc |
| 14:48.18 | pixie__ | just wondering if its likely to die horribly without swap |
| 14:48.52 | pixie__ | kernel-module-pl2303 kernel-module-usbserial microcom |
| 14:48.54 | pixie__ | seems ok so far |
| 14:53.27 | eFfeM | i think you'll be ok |
| 15:00.09 | pixie__ | yeah i think it will be ok |
| 15:00.14 | pixie__ | just got to sort poweron now |
| 15:03.20 | eFfeM | like autopoweron ? there is a good wiki page on that |
| 15:12.30 | pixie__ | yeah i got a usb cable for method 5 today just need to do a few tests as it will be running off the box its the console for so isnt ideal |
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| 15:18.00 | eFfeM | autopoweron & usb ??? |
| 15:18.20 | eFfeM | i'm not really sure if that is a reliable/supported method |
| 15:18.36 | eFfeM | i had this chip added to my slug (forgot the type but it is on the wiki) |
| 15:19.12 | eFfeM-away | (actually the sun is reaching my table so my laptopscreen isn't readable any more. |
| 15:19.25 | eFfeM-away | maybe back after dinner on another place or system |
| 15:20.32 | koen | eFfeM-away: the slug boots if you apply +5v externally to the usb bus |
| 15:20.52 | pixie__ | cya eFfeM |
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| 16:18.35 | eFfeM | koen, saw your msg just before I lost connection, I'm not really sure if the +5 V usb is a safe way to boot |
| 16:18.39 | eFfeM | electrically speaking |
| 16:18.48 | koen | I'm not sure either |
| 16:18.54 | koen | but people say it works |
| 16:19.13 | pixie__ | ive got a chip on order for the proper method |
| 16:19.20 | pixie__ | appears to work ok with this usb cable though |
| 16:19.36 | eFfeM | btw if I want to make a native package (php) and I want to be sure that something is installed before the package build starts, is that mentioned in DEPENDS? |
| 16:19.38 | eFfeM | e.g. |
| 16:19.44 | eFfeM | DEPENDS = "mysql zlib-dev libxml2-dev libxml2-utils file-native" |
| 16:20.12 | koen | yes |
| 16:20.27 | koen | fwiw: php should be cross-buildable as well |
| 16:20.34 | eFfeM | ok, I was not sure if that only would generate package dependencies |
| 16:20.44 | eFfeM | well here the cross-build fails |
| 16:21.19 | eFfeM | I think apache is needed and that is in the native build list too |
| 16:25.20 | koen | ah, right |
| 16:25.31 | koen | I try to avoid apache on embedded devices |
| 16:25.40 | koen | thttpd/boa/cherokee are a better fit |
| 16:25.57 | eFfeM | yeah, might better try that, does that blend in with php properly ? |
| 16:26.16 | koen | iirc those use fastcgi, which just runs the php-cli app |
| 16:26.26 | koen | no need for modules and other weird apache stuff :) |
| 16:26.48 | eFfeM | ah, ok |
| 16:27.01 | koen | btw, the busybox httpd applet in 1.2.0 supports php as well :) |
| 16:27.22 | koen | in exchange for 8k of diskspace |
| 16:27.30 | koen | (+ php-cli) |
| 16:30.12 | eFfeM | btw trying to get audio running, but I need to manually insmod all modules, is there a way to do this in the bb ? |
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| 18:36.06 | EvilDevil | is there some way (apart from downloading the full sources for slugos 3.10) to build pwc for kernel 2.6.16 and gcc3.4 using the Master Makefile? |
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| 18:42.55 | jelle | hello, is it me or is my "disk1" light not showing anything automatically anymore with slugos 3.10? |
| 18:46.59 | koen | the leds stuff got overhauled |
| 18:51.12 | jelle | hm... |
| 18:51.59 | jelle | oh well. I used this to see if it recognized my disk properly (seemed to skip the disk 3 out of 5 times), but now I'll just have to do it differently. |
| 18:52.29 | jelle | can I put some startup code somewhere to turn the light on again? where should I put it? just to see if it loaded properly from disk or not |
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| 18:55.22 | EvilDevil | jelle, take a look at the "leds" command |
| 19:01.29 | jelle | thanks EvilDevil |
| 19:01.48 | jelle | now I say "leds disk-2 on" and the led for disk 1 will turn on... funny |
| 19:01.55 | jelle | leds disk-1 on does nothing |
| 19:07.59 | jelle | eh. should I mess with the /etc/init.d scripts to turn the light on, or is there a better place? |
| 19:10.48 | EvilDevil | jelle.. i would simply put it in /initrd/linuxrc (append "& leds disk-2 on" to the line which starts with UUID=...) but i'm not sure if the leds command on the initrd supports the same commands as the other one |
| 19:12.16 | EvilDevil | i meant && /sbin/leds |
| 19:21.01 | jelle | right. thanks, I'll try that |
| 19:22.33 | EvilDevil | would be a nice-to-have in the standard-firmware too |
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| 19:27.00 | jelle | I'm such a linux nono... /initrd is read only, any more tips, or should I go and find a newbe linux manual? |
| 19:27.33 | koen | mount /initrd -o remount,rw |
| 19:27.41 | koen | that usually work |
| 19:27.43 | koen | s |
| 19:30.18 | EvilDevil_ | or try to boot without disk and modify /linuxrc |
| 19:32.16 | jelle | eh, I'd like the disk led only to be on when I boot from disk. I have the feeling I shouldn'e be in /linuxrc then, right? |
| 20:43.36 | jelle | got it. i changed the zleds script in init.d |
| 20:44.11 | jelle | works like a charm. |
| 20:53.04 | jelle | looks like the wiki on the leds command needs a little update.... |
| 21:35.53 | EvilDevil | jelle, i guess, rule #3 will apply now: "3. Those who ask the questions, update the wiki when they get the answers." |
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