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| 10:10.02 | Prometeo | hi |
| 10:10.08 | Prometeo | anybody here ? |
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| 12:13.02 | d4rr3ll | afternoon everybody... just taken delivery of my first nslu2, just about to reflash it now :) |
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| 14:09.02 | kitno455 | ok guys- trying to get a handle on where the beeps went in current ucslugc. not sure if this is related to the new udev stuff? |
| 14:09.47 | kitno455 | does anyone building current openslug HEAD get beeps when their slug boots? |
| 14:10.43 | EvilDevil_ | kitno455, i'm not sure. my slug doesn't boot with ucslugc or openslug |
| 14:10.51 | kitno455 | debian? |
| 14:11.32 | EvilDevil_ | haven't flashed a recent version of debianslug |
| 14:11.52 | kitno455 | are you still on kernel 2.6.15? |
| 14:12.42 | EvilDevil_ | no, 2.6.16, but still the old kernel (scsi + usb modules compiled in) |
| 14:13.13 | kitno455 | can you shell into your slug and see if the command beep works? |
| 14:14.58 | EvilDevil_ | kitno455, i can do "beep" as root and i can hear it |
| 14:15.17 | kitno455 | are you using serial connection? |
| 14:15.24 | kitno455 | at all? |
| 14:16.21 | EvilDevil_ | i have 1 slug with serial mod and 1 without. the one without is running debianslug (2.6.16 scsi+usb compiled in), the other one is running nothing atm |
| 14:16.45 | kitno455 | cool |
| 14:17.09 | kitno455 | i am trying to narrow this down- do you have /dev/tty0 on that slug? |
| 14:18.13 | EvilDevil_ | which slug? |
| 14:18.24 | kitno455 | the one that beeps |
| 14:18.26 | kitno455 | no serial |
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| 14:21.17 | kitno455 | i dont have /dev/tty0 on my slug, only /dev/tty and /dev/ttyS[01] |
| 14:21.28 | kitno455 | beep claims to want to open /dev/tty0 |
| 14:21.47 | EvilDevil_ | same here |
| 14:22.09 | kitno455 | weird- it works for you though? |
| 14:22.20 | EvilDevil_ | Could not open /dev/tty0 or /dev/vc/0 for writing <- when running as a non-root user |
| 14:22.34 | kitno455 | i shelled in as root |
| 14:24.00 | EvilDevil_ | there's no tty0 nor vc/0 |
| 14:24.15 | kitno455 | so wtf is beep openning? |
| 14:24.31 | kitno455 | when it works... use the source luke |
| 14:24.35 | kitno455 | lets see.... |
| 14:26.24 | kitno455 | ahhh |
| 14:26.37 | kitno455 | there is another choice that beep tries first |
| 14:26.42 | kitno455 | /dev/input/event0 |
| 14:27.09 | kitno455 | EvilDevil, do you have /dev/input/event0 ? |
| 14:27.16 | EvilDevil | yep |
| 14:27.20 | kitno455 | i dont |
| 14:27.29 | kitno455 | new udev setup maybe? |
| 14:27.33 | EvilDevil | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 64 2006-04-16 23:41 /dev/input/event0 |
| 14:27.44 | kitno455 | i dont even have /dev/input dir |
| 14:27.51 | kitno455 | but i do have stuff in /sys |
| 14:27.57 | kitno455 | lets try that :) |
| 14:28.35 | kitno455 | hmm, none of this stuff seems to be the same format... |
| 14:35.11 | HopsNBarley | kitno455, how ya feeling today? |
| 14:36.18 | EvilDevil | i think he's feeling kinda beeped |
| 14:36.30 | kitno455 | HopsNBarley, terrible |
| 14:36.52 | kitno455 | you know, i've never had allergies before, but i think that might be the cause |
| 14:37.02 | kitno455 | i remember having a cold around this time last year |
| 14:37.28 | HopsNBarley | bummer. same story here. no allergies at all, ever. but this year, persistent cough, occasional headache. I know perhaps 5 other people with the same story this year. |
| 14:37.43 | EvilDevil | bird flu |
| 14:38.38 | kitno455 | cool, we are all gonna die |
| 14:39.38 | kitno455 | anyway- i bet the kernel haxors have this all figured out, but i am stumped |
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| 14:39.54 | kitno455 | where is /dev/input? |
| 14:45.07 | HopsNBarley | kitno455, no beep on my semi-recent openslug head reboot. |
| 14:45.22 | HopsNBarley | no /dev/input either |
| 14:46.51 | kitno455 | udev |
| 14:53.50 | kitno455 | looks like we need udev 0.087-2 ? |
| 14:54.11 | kitno455 | but HEAD contains udev-084 ? |
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| 14:55.08 | EvilDevil | i got udev-0.89 on my debianslug (the one that beeps) |
| 14:55.45 | kitno455 | this is little-ended debian? |
| 14:56.04 | EvilDevil | yep |
| 14:56.11 | EvilDevil | little endian |
| 14:56.12 | EvilDevil | ;) |
| 14:56.25 | kitno455 | so you benefit from all those prebuilt packages |
| 14:56.35 | EvilDevil | yes :) |
| 14:56.56 | kitno455 | i wonder how hard it will be for me to make a .bb for later udev :) |
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| 14:57.28 | EvilDevil | kitno455, for openslug? |
| 14:57.33 | kitno455 | ucslugc |
| 14:57.48 | kitno455 | openslug should be same |
| 14:58.06 | EvilDevil | yes, but you could use the opendebianslug package in openslug |
| 14:58.18 | EvilDevil | they're both BE |
| 14:58.26 | kitno455 | but that does not have all the packages that LE has |
| 14:58.29 | kitno455 | ? |
| 14:59.19 | kitno455 | i am confused about the relationship between all those... |
| 14:59.31 | EvilDevil | i'm not sure about the exact number of packages, but i think there are 15k+ packages for BE Debian |
| 14:59.46 | kitno455 | well, in my case i really want small. |
| 14:59.57 | EvilDevil | there is a .bb for udev-089 |
| 15:00.01 | kitno455 | i am trying to squeeze the entire image down |
| 15:00.15 | kitno455 | i am looking at it... |
| 15:01.03 | EvilDevil | i think there's some config file which chooses the prefered version of a package that goes into the image... |
| 15:01.15 | kitno455 | looking for it now... :) |
| 15:02.27 | EvilDevil | openembedded/conf/distro/slugos.conf |
| 15:02.43 | kitno455 | my copy does not mention udev? |
| 15:03.09 | EvilDevil | mine neither |
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| 15:05.52 | HopsNBarley | i think you could put that anywhere on the .conf file chain. i put some preferreds in local.conf as i recall. |
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| 15:07.32 | kitno455 | ok, but where is it set now? |
| 15:07.58 | kitno455 | most other packages just move forward when newer versions are available |
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| 15:11.23 | kitno455 | first line of udev_089.bb: |
| 15:11.32 | kitno455 | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
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| 15:24.45 | kitno455 | ok, got udev 089-r1 installed, but still no /dev/input |
| 15:25.05 | kitno455 | wonder if some rules need to be updated |
| 15:27.13 | HopsNBarley | what device are you trying to create a node for? |
| 15:27.38 | kitno455 | /dev/input/event0 if that is still correct for latest kerneles |
| 15:27.48 | kitno455 | s/kerneles/kernels/ |
| 15:28.08 | HopsNBarley | what is event0? |
| 15:28.32 | kitno455 | it was the beeper |
| 15:28.37 | HopsNBarley | ah. |
| 15:33.29 | kitno455 | boy, static dev never bothered me at all :) |
| 15:37.12 | kitno455 | hmm, there is still a /sbin/hotplug. i wonder if that is a problem... |
| 15:37.32 | kitno455 | adios |
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| 16:04.52 | jake_ | hello. |
| 16:04.57 | jake_ | rwhity? |
| 16:05.07 | jake_ | hmm.. his not here.. |
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| 19:11.56 | kitno455 | re all |
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| 19:38.21 | HopsNBarley | kitno455 - do you know about /lib/udev/devices ??? |
| 19:39.46 | kitno455 | HopsNBarley, no |
| 19:39.49 | kitno455 | just reading udev docs now |
| 19:40.31 | kitno455 | hmm- dont have that on my desktop box |
| 19:41.00 | HopsNBarley | what version of udev is on your box? |
| 19:41.05 | kitno455 | but it has 071 |
| 19:41.13 | kitno455 | lets look at slug |
| 19:42.21 | kitno455 | no such file on slug, but there is a /lib/udev dir |
| 19:42.33 | HopsNBarley | i've got 0.87 (gentoo), and slug 0.84r3 |
| 19:42.49 | kitno455 | my slug now has 089 |
| 19:42.53 | HopsNBarley | and i've got it on the gentoo. |
| 19:42.58 | HopsNBarley | yeah, i saw you upgrade. |
| 19:43.00 | HopsNBarley | (-; |
| 19:43.16 | kitno455 | i am confused anyway |
| 19:43.18 | HopsNBarley | the udev start script will copy anything in /lib/udev/devices/* to /dev upon startup. |
| 19:43.33 | HopsNBarley | i don't know if this helps you, but i thought i'd toss it out there. |
| 19:43.36 | kitno455 | do a df on your slug |
| 19:43.40 | kitno455 | i see this: |
| 19:43.45 | kitno455 | /dev/mtdblock4 6528 2988 3540 46% /dev/.static/dev |
| 19:44.07 | HopsNBarley | i see the same thing - 'cept on the hd. |
| 19:44.43 | NAiL | the /dev/mtdblock4 is just the mtdblock4 /dev bindmounted to /dev/.static/dev |
| 19:44.47 | NAiL | ie, the original dev |
| 19:44.56 | NAiL | not usually required |
| 19:44.58 | kitno455 | static |
| 19:45.01 | NAiL | yes |
| 19:45.06 | kitno455 | required at boot? |
| 19:45.18 | NAiL | unlikely |
| 19:45.28 | NAiL | It's there for compatibility |
| 19:45.28 | kitno455 | hmm- |
| 19:45.44 | kitno455 | NAiL, here is my issue: |
| 19:45.53 | kitno455 | beep does not work anymore under HEAD |
| 19:46.02 | kitno455 | there are no /dev/input files |
| 19:46.19 | kitno455 | beep opens /dev/input/event0 first |
| 19:46.47 | kitno455 | so i am trying to figure out how those get created |
| 19:46.54 | kitno455 | i can see the buzzer in /sys |
| 19:47.30 | NAiL | I think someone like lennert would know that... |
| 19:47.44 | NAiL | I'm not familiar with how the buzzer works yet |
| 19:47.50 | kitno455 | unfortunately, i might be on the wrong path anyway |
| 19:48.24 | kitno455 | cause when i manually create the nodes, it still does not work. |
| 19:48.50 | kitno455 | i know there have been alot of changes in sysfs/udev recently to remove need for /sbin/hotplug |
| 19:56.12 | HopsNBarley | kitno455, think i'm onto something... |
| 19:59.00 | HopsNBarley | ...nevermind. thought there was a missing patch. |
| 20:10.29 | kitno455 | looks like the beeper patch got mainlined for 2.6.16 |
| 20:11.46 | kitno455 | comparing two slugs i have one that works, one that does not |
| 20:13.58 | kitno455 | both say: input: ixp4xx beeper as /class/input/input0 |
| 20:14.01 | kitno455 | during bootup |
| 20:16.05 | kitno455 | the /sys/class/input/input0/ dirs look a little different |
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| 21:11.23 | kitno455 | ok, if i diff the copy of drivers/input/misc/ixp4xx-beeper.c |
| 21:11.45 | kitno455 | in 2.6.15.3 and 2.6.16, they are not the same |
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| 22:15.31 | kitno455 | HopsNBarley, technical difficulties? |
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| 22:20.08 | kitno455 | morning rod |
| 22:20.27 | rwhitby | morning |
| 22:20.55 | kitno455 | do you know anything about the buzzer under 2.6.16? |
| 22:22.13 | kitno455 | having some trouble |
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| 22:27.04 | kitno455_ | hmm, technical difficulties |
| 22:27.52 | kitno455_ | rwhitby, seems that slug's buzzer does not work under current HEAD |
| 22:28.03 | kitno455_ | trying to get a handle on it |
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