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| 08:31.33 | joschkopf | [g2]: still here? sorry, forgot to set me away... i'm running openslug 2.7 with 128MB at the moment, because debianslug only sees 32MB, i'm looking for the reason... |
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| 09:35.08 | joschkopf | can anyone help me with changing the kernel configuration? i made changes to openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/defconfig , but they don't appear in /tmp/work/ixp4xx-kernel-2.6.15.2-r2.1/linux-2.6.15.2/.config |
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| 10:38.21 | NAiL | joschkopf: I think it's somewhere in the .bb or .inc (or the patches). It's not in the defconfig ;) |
| 10:39.25 | NAiL | look in ixp4xx-kernel.inc, there's a lot about CMDLINE there |
| 10:49.09 | NAiL | Come to think of it, it might actually be in openembedded/conf/distro/ somewhere |
| 11:09.30 | joschkopf | now i manually changed it in tmp/work, just to see if it works, and voila, i now have a 128MB-turbo-debianslug running :) |
| 11:10.10 | NAiL | niiiiiice :) |
| 11:10.20 | joschkopf | so i still have to search for the correct place for the command line to make it permanent |
| 11:12.55 | joschkopf | i also had some problems with apt-get and gpgv, but somehow, after changing the mirror to DE, they all went away... |
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| 12:21.41 | [g2] | joschkopf are you running LE ? |
| 12:22.00 | joschkopf | right, le :) |
| 12:23.39 | [g2] | did you find the cmdline ? |
| 12:24.00 | joschkopf | i changed it direclty in .confing in the working directory |
| 12:24.07 | joschkopf | i did not yet find the correct place... |
| 12:24.20 | joschkopf | but i just wanted to see if this is actually the problem |
| 12:24.57 | [g2] | what actual problem are you seeing ? |
| 12:25.00 | joschkopf | i have to say that i'm no python guru, so its difficult to understand the bb-things :) |
| 12:25.24 | joschkopf | i didn't get the 128MB ram on my fatslug, only 32 with slugos-le |
| 12:25.35 | [g2] | yeah my python-foo is weak too, but at least the .bb's are pretty readable |
| 12:25.47 | joschkopf | the reason for this is, that slugos overwrites the command line, which it gets from apex |
| 12:26.18 | joschkopf | so i have to add "mem=128MB@0x000000" to the default kernel configuration |
| 12:26.37 | joschkopf | i changed it in den defconfig, but this doesn't help |
| 12:26.41 | dyoung-away | ... or eliminate the mem= bit ? |
| 12:26.51 | joschkopf | hm, where? |
| 12:27.18 | joschkopf | i know how to configure the kernel on a normal system, but i don't (yet) understand how it is done in OE |
| 12:30.08 | [g2] | joschkopf yeah there's an overwrite of the kernel commad line for LE now |
| 12:30.36 | [g2] | I'll have to do a fresh pull to find where that stuff is |
| 12:30.51 | [g2] | joschkopf can you do me a favor |
| 12:30.56 | joschkopf | sure? |
| 12:31.05 | [g2] | apt-get install bonnie++ |
| 12:31.13 | [g2] | and run bonnie on the hd |
| 12:31.16 | joschkopf | bonnie++ ? |
| 12:31.19 | joschkopf | :) |
| 12:31.26 | [g2] | it's a disk performance test |
| 12:31.31 | joschkopf | ah, ok... |
| 12:31.49 | [g2] | I'm seeing errors on may 128M and 256M lofts |
| 12:32.08 | joschkopf | when running this test? |
| 12:32.09 | dyoung-away | openembedded/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel.inc ? |
| 12:32.12 | [g2] | I think it's related to the pci_indirect |
| 12:32.35 | [g2] | when I configure for 64MB on the same hw it works fine |
| 12:33.34 | [g2] | and all 3 of my unit exhibit the same issue, but only under lots of load |
| 12:33.34 | joschkopf | how to run bonnie? |
| 12:33.41 | [g2] | bonnie++ :) |
| 12:33.56 | [g2] | man bonnie++ for a little description |
| 12:33.57 | joschkopf | ah ok... i have to run with a different user |
| 12:34.09 | [g2] | yeah as a normal user |
| 12:34.12 | joschkopf | i hope it doesn't hurt anything... :-O |
| 12:34.21 | joschkopf | now its writing something |
| 12:34.47 | [g2] | it's a nice teset |
| 12:34.49 | [g2] | test |
| 12:35.07 | [g2] | dyoung-away it's moved to the MAC list stuff iirc |
| 12:35.39 | joschkopf | ok, ii'll be away for a minute, i'll tell you how the test ran in a minute |
| 12:35.43 | [g2] | dyoung-away I commented it out on my version of the Loft's CVS kernel stuff |
| 12:36.03 | [g2] | joschkopf are you aware of the kernel CVS repo ? |
| 12:36.16 | joschkopf | nope? |
| 12:36.37 | [g2] | it's the kernel trunk on the nslu project at sf.net |
| 12:36.52 | joschkopf | and the kernel development takes place there? |
| 12:36.58 | [g2] | you can just point your OE build tool chain and build just the kernel and modules |
| 12:37.14 | [g2] | it's the staging area for pushing stuff upstream |
| 12:37.21 | joschkopf | ah, ok |
| 12:37.38 | joschkopf | so how does this help my problem? |
| 12:37.48 | dyoung-away | the CMDLINE is in the file I mentioned. |
| 12:38.03 | [g2] | it would be really long lived, but for you buliding kernels it'll make things a lot easier |
| 12:38.18 | [g2] | dyoung-away yes, but I think it's overwritten at runtime |
| 12:39.09 | dyoung-away | on a nslu2? |
| 12:39.18 | dyoung-away | I'm pretty sure thats what gets passed. |
| 12:39.40 | dyoung-away | remember it works under openslug. but not debianslug for joschkopf |
| 12:40.42 | [g2] | dyoung-away I think jbowler switched the patching of the command line |
| 12:40.52 | [g2] | I know it was there for the Loft |
| 12:40.56 | dyoung-away | ok |
| 12:41.02 | [g2] | I had to undo those changes |
| 12:41.05 | dyoung-away | I only got my builder working yesterday |
| 12:41.16 | dyoung-away | it had been offline since november. |
| 12:41.35 | [g2] | 94-loft-setup.patch |
| 12:42.07 | [g2] | dyoung-away you are absolutely correct that it was there for nearly 1.5 years :) |
| 12:42.38 | dyoung-away | Hmm |
| 12:42.58 | dyoung-away | teh 91-foo series of patch doesnt do anything to with the mem= bit though. |
| 12:43.31 | dyoung-away | heh in fact: |
| 12:43.37 | dyoung-away | + /* The NSLU2 has one bank of 32MByte memory. |
| 12:43.37 | dyoung-away | + * NOTE: to make a 'fatslug' work append the appropriate |
| 12:43.38 | dyoung-away | + * mem= to the CONFIG_CMDLINE - this will override the |
| 12:43.38 | dyoung-away | + * setting below. |
| 12:44.25 | [g2] | right it passes in the mem ATAG |
| 12:45.47 | [g2] | dyoung-away it's probably either nslu2-kernel.inc as you mentioned or ixp4xx-kernel.inc |
| 12:48.40 | dyoung-away | yep, joschkopf lookit one of those. :-) |
| 13:02.00 | joschkopf | SCHLAUBI:/etc/samba/drivers# bonnie++ -u 2000 |
| 13:02.00 | joschkopf | Using uid:2000, gid:2000. |
| 13:02.00 | joschkopf | Writing with putc()...done |
| 13:02.00 | joschkopf | Writing intelligently...done |
| 13:02.01 | joschkopf | Rewriting...done |
| 13:02.33 | dyoung-away | oops |
| 13:02.38 | [g2] | heh |
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| 13:02.50 | [g2] | wb |
| 13:03.23 | [g2] | bouncey bouncey |
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| 13:03.52 | joschkopf | hm, i get disconneted when i send my results :-/ |
| 13:03.56 | [g2] | wb again |
| 13:04.01 | joschkopf | but there were no errors with bonnie |
| 13:04.03 | [g2] | yeah you're flooding |
| 13:04.09 | [g2] | cool |
| 13:04.18 | [g2] | this is with 128MB |
| 13:04.29 | joschkopf | yeah |
| 13:04.33 | [g2] | great |
| 13:04.35 | [g2] | THX |
| 13:04.39 | joschkopf | no prob |
| 13:05.04 | joschkopf | if you find something with the command line this would be great |
| 13:05.12 | joschkopf | i have to leave now, have to look for a new flat :) |
| 13:05.15 | joschkopf | cu, thanks :) |
| 13:05.26 | [g2] | happy hunting |
| 13:08.20 | kami22 | hey can anyone tell me what equipment i need to fatslug my nslu? |
| 13:10.18 | [g2] | kami22 are you very good with SMT soldering ? |
| 13:10.32 | [g2] | or have access to hotair guns and reflow stations ? |
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| 13:16.37 | kami22 | no :) |
| 13:16.45 | kami22 | i think this is my Problem :) |
| 13:17.01 | kami22 | but is there any chance to fatslug my system? |
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| 15:34.07 | kitno455 | morning VoodooZ, EvilDevil |
| 15:35.18 | VoodooZ | morning |
| 15:35.33 | VoodooZ | Glad to see i'm not alone in here. :) |
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| 15:40.42 | kitno455 | it is very quiet some days |
| 15:41.01 | kitno455 | until jbowler/nail show up especially |
| 15:41.15 | kitno455 | how is initng |
| 15:43.57 | VoodooZ | yeah. it seems most of the guys are working on the opposite shift. |
| 15:44.26 | VoodooZ | I couldn't get initng to compile as it's looking for a FORTIFY_SOURCE define that doesn't exist. |
| 15:44.35 | VoodooZ | Probably our GCC is too old? |
| 15:44.45 | VoodooZ | I read it was a new feature of GCC. |
| 15:45.59 | NAiL | (just to "show up") :-P |
| 15:46.10 | VoodooZ | heheh |
| 15:46.18 | VoodooZ | Always to have you around. |
| 15:46.29 | VoodooZ | oops. insert "Good" after Always. |
| 15:46.43 | NAiL | hehe |
| 15:47.09 | NAiL | Today I'm not gonna do much though. Waiting for three feeds to build, which is gonna take a fair while |
| 15:48.20 | VoodooZ | I noticed jbowler has been cranking out the checkins. Is the release closer than I though? |
| 15:48.26 | kitno455 | you rebuilding entire feed? |
| 15:48.38 | EvilDevil | morning kitno455 |
| 15:49.07 | joschkopf | kami22: i did it with a normal soldering iron and a good magnifying glass |
| 15:50.02 | kitno455 | EvilDevil, i suppose it is evening for you? |
| 15:50.21 | joschkopf | for desoldering, i first soldered a silver wire to each side of the old chip and then heated up this wire with the soldering iron, so all pins on one side got hot |
| 15:50.34 | EvilDevil | kitno455 4:50 pm |
| 15:50.47 | joschkopf | here too 4:50pm :) |
| 15:51.07 | VoodooZ | here: 10:50am (EST canada) |
| 15:51.14 | EvilDevil | gmt+1 germany |
| 15:51.26 | kitno455 | hmm, you guys dont use 24hr time in europe? |
| 15:51.27 | VoodooZ | gmt-5 |
| 15:51.39 | kitno455 | VoodooZ, same here, EST US |
| 15:51.55 | EvilDevil | kitno455 we use 24hr time here... i just wanted to make it better readable for you :-P |
| 15:52.02 | kitno455 | ahah |
| 15:52.08 | kitno455 | i thought so |
| 15:52.29 | kitno455 | i can convert. i can also use metric somewhat :) |
| 15:52.54 | kitno455 | hmm- i dont seem to have dns resolution on my slug |
| 15:53.06 | EvilDevil | metric is better anyway ;-) |
| 15:54.38 | kitno455 | agreed on the metric |
| 15:54.48 | kitno455 | at least as far as math goes |
| 15:55.09 | EvilDevil | it contains more logical components ;) |
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| 15:55.26 | VoodooZ | kitno455, good. I thought I was the only one on this continent. :) |
| 15:55.38 | kitno455 | logic- whats that? i am an american. we dont use logic :) |
| 15:55.48 | VoodooZ | I'm totally metric. |
| 15:55.59 | kitno455 | darn queer euros and their logic... |
| 15:56.11 | EvilDevil | kitno455 :-O |
| 15:56.16 | VoodooZ | hehehe |
| 15:56.30 | kitno455 | i have a complete set of metric and standard tools |
| 15:56.39 | EvilDevil | there are only 10 people who understand binary... :-) |
| 15:56.41 | kitno455 | it can be very expensive |
| 15:56.49 | VoodooZ | For engineering it makes so much more sense. |
| 15:56.55 | kitno455 | no- there are only 10 kinds of people in the world |
| 15:56.57 | NAiL | VoodooZ: The release needs to be tested a bit, before we let it go. There has been a few issues that needed to be solved. |
| 15:57.22 | VoodooZ | NAiL, cool. It's looking good. Let me know and I can be your guinea pig. |
| 15:57.35 | EvilDevil | well.. enough conversation about metric |
| 15:57.50 | NAiL | kitno455: I'm currently building the openslug, debianslug and slugos-ltu feeds ;) |
| 15:58.43 | kitno455 | yeah, you're making me jealous with all the base10 talk |
| 15:58.46 | kami22 | VoodooZ: hi can you tell me with which soldering iron you did this? |
| 15:59.30 | VoodooZ | kami22, euh? what are you refering to exactly? The fattening thing? I didn't do it yet. |
| 16:00.10 | joschkopf | kami22: i actually used 2 different irons :) |
| 16:00.35 | joschkopf | i have a big one with i think 40watts, i used this for desoldering |
| 16:00.48 | joschkopf | for soldering the new chips i used a very small one with 10 watts only |
| 16:00.55 | EvilDevil | i guess my 5 euro soldering iron wouldn't fit the requirements ;) |
| 16:01.16 | kitno455 | wow- 5 euros? i pulled mine from a trashcan |
| 16:01.32 | VoodooZ | I stole mine from my old job! oops! :) |
| 16:01.38 | kami22 | i am using a ersa station to solder iron |
| 16:02.20 | joschkopf | i didn't buy ersa because i was too expensive :) |
| 16:02.37 | joschkopf | mine is "star tec" |
| 16:03.34 | EvilDevil | VoodooZ that reminds me of http://www.bash.org/?258908 ;-) |
| 16:03.39 | VoodooZ | mine is one of those entry-level ones from a good company I can't remember the name. |
| 16:03.59 | VoodooZ | I need to buy some tips for it though. It doesn't have temperature control unfortunately |
| 16:04.45 | VoodooZ | hehehe |
| 16:04.48 | EvilDevil | temperature control? mine is binary... cold or hot ;) |
| 16:04.52 | kitno455 | ok- having trouble getting dns resolution to work on ucslugc built late yesterday HEAD |
| 16:05.03 | VoodooZ | hehehe mine too. pretty much. |
| 16:05.10 | VoodooZ | Ah! I remember now. It's a Weller. |
| 16:05.24 | kitno455 | old wellers are very nice |
| 16:05.32 | NAiL | kitno455: did you ipkg upgrade? That kills /etc/resolv.conf ;) |
| 16:05.34 | VoodooZ | yep. It's old too! :) |
| 16:05.47 | kitno455 | new wellers not so good, they got bought out iirc |
| 16:05.59 | kitno455 | NAiL, /etc/resolv.conf looks goo |
| 16:06.18 | kitno455 | NAiL, if i tcpdump on my dns server, i can see that it responds to slug |
| 16:06.28 | NAiL | ah, so it's something else |
| 16:06.40 | kitno455 | yeah- slug not like response? |
| 16:07.23 | EvilDevil | joschkopf are you going to offer some slug-fattenig service? :-) |
| 16:07.30 | joschkopf | hehe |
| 16:07.36 | EvilDevil | in this case, i would be interested |
| 16:07.38 | kitno455 | hmm- i can ping the host by ip, just can resolve it |
| 16:07.48 | VoodooZ | Me too! |
| 16:07.49 | joschkopf | hm |
| 16:07.51 | joschkopf | :) |
| 16:08.04 | VoodooZ | kitno455, do you have iptables running? |
| 16:08.06 | joschkopf | i don't think its worth sending the slug from us to germany and back :) |
| 16:08.17 | VoodooZ | yeah. good point |
| 16:08.18 | joschkopf | but evildevil, where are you exactly? |
| 16:08.46 | EvilDevil | joschkopf rh-pf, near homburg/saar |
| 16:08.59 | joschkopf | ah, here near stuttgart |
| 16:09.32 | kami22 | can you tell me which size your tips has? |
| 16:09.43 | kami22 | i hope this is the right word :) |
| 16:10.16 | EvilDevil | debianslug uses pretty much ram if you're running some standard servers (apache/smbd/proftpd) and some p2p clients :/ |
| 16:11.17 | joschkopf | that was the reason for the fattening :) |
| 16:11.56 | joschkopf | kami22: i'm not completely sure, but i think its a 0.5mm tip |
| 16:12.16 | joschkopf | the one i used for desoldering is veeeery big, so no special requirements here |
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| 16:12.42 | EvilDevil | pretty small :/ my soldering iron has a 10mm tip :-/ |
| 16:13.27 | joschkopf | 10mm?!?!? are you soldering high voltage lines? :-O |
| 16:14.19 | EvilDevil | kind of ;) i needed to solder my own "kaltgerätestecker" to mulit outlet plug ;) |
| 16:14.47 | kami22 | i think he is the guy how is stealing voltage from the 400 kV line near my town for his experiments :) |
| 16:15.32 | joschkopf | maybe he is growing some plants in his basement :-P |
| 16:15.43 | VoodooZ | hehehe |
| 16:15.51 | kami22 | this must be really big plants |
| 16:15.53 | kami22 | :) |
| 16:16.01 | EvilDevil | joschkopf almost :-P http://www.patrickschneider.info/slugcastle.htm |
| 16:16.04 | kitno455 | you dont need to connect to the kv line to steal power from it |
| 16:16.14 | kitno455 | just lay a wire on the ground under it |
| 16:16.30 | EvilDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.38 | kami22 | i know but thats doesnt thrilling :) |
| 16:16.42 | kitno455 | haha |
| 16:16.50 | kitno455 | thrilled to death |
| 16:17.00 | EvilDevil | afk |
| 16:17.09 | kitno455 | anything with a multi-meter long insulator scares me |
| 16:17.23 | kami22 | better say: thrilled to sand. much more wont be left :) |
| 16:18.00 | kami22 | we call this a "Platinenlutscher" :) |
| 16:19.50 | kami22 | test |
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| 16:35.02 | joschkopf | anyone knows the php-function to determine, how long it took to generate a webpage? |
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| 17:00.37 | ^herman2^ | joschkopf no, but it will be slow ;) |
| 17:00.43 | ^herman2^ | (just tested it) |
| 17:01.10 | joschkopf | i just installed apache2 + php, we'll see :) |
| 17:01.42 | joschkopf | pure html seems very fast - compared to a normal slug :) |
| 17:04.02 | kitno455 | NAiL, my dns resolution problems are getting stranger |
| 17:04.21 | kitno455 | ssh out from slug and nslookup from slug cannot resolve the host |
| 17:04.37 | kitno455 | but ping and curl can |
| 17:04.55 | *** join/#openslug Sinclair73de (n=icechat5@p54A0C7AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
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| 17:07.05 | kitno455 | anyone here running a recent HEAD build of openslug or ucslugc? |
| 17:07.27 | Sinclair73de | joschkopf? |
| 17:07.41 | joschkopf | here |
| 17:07.49 | RealEvilDevil_ | damn standy-mode :/ |
| 17:07.55 | Sinclair73de | not on yahoo? |
| 17:08.26 | joschkopf | ups |
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| 17:16.04 | RealEvilDevil_ | anyone tried to do a make update recently? |
| 17:17.55 | EvilDevil_ | i always get this error about sharp-sdmmc-support and make update failes (MasterMakefile) |
| 18:02.28 | Sinclair73de | i get the same error when do make update |
| 18:04.00 | EvilDevil | ok, well.. then i'm not the only one :) |
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| 18:37.28 | Sinclair73de | now the checkout seems working |
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