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| 14:29.08 | HopsNBarley | i'm having some difficulty compiling apache on the slug. |
| 14:29.23 | HopsNBarley | the toolchain is working fine, and configure and compile run via bitbake. |
| 14:30.02 | HopsNBarley | i "do_package" i get tons of "Couldn't find shared library provider for <many libraries here>" |
| 14:30.10 | HopsNBarley | any hints? |
| 14:31.27 | VoodooZ_Log | andrea_, did you see my reply about pand? |
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| 14:36.29 | kitno455 | did i get a chance to mention that slugos/oe/master makefile rocks? |
| 14:36.46 | kitno455 | oh, and reflash and turnup too |
| 14:40.22 | HopsNBarley | it doens't work compiling natively on the slug... |
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| 17:34.54 | kitno455 | jbowler- have you seen anything weird with terminal on a recent ucslugc? sorry to cross-post |
| 18:01.38 | kitno455 | i see missing chars when either minicom to serial port, or ssh'd into a slug running current ucslugc |
| 18:01.45 | kitno455 | both from an fc4 box |
| 18:02.12 | kitno455 | problem seems primarily related to display, esp. of \r\n |
| 18:02.42 | kitno455 | the data goes in correctly, but you have to type blind and ignore what is on the screen in vi, for instance |
| 18:25.07 | jbowler | kitno455: minicom seems totally broken to me |
| 18:26.06 | jbowler | ssh, no problems I'm aware of but bitbake vi is less than perfect. The term caps need to be vt100 I think - i.e. you must use a vt100 compatible emulator on the remote end. |
| 18:26.19 | VoodooZ | I've noticed the same issue on openslug-3.1 when editing a file in vi thru my FC4 minicom. |
| 18:27.22 | kitno455 | i thought it was minicom or my homebuilt serial adapter at first |
| 18:27.26 | jbowler | minicom is clearly telling the other end that this is a raw vt100 (80x24) - it doesn't do the screen size stuff. |
| 18:27.34 | kitno455 | but it seems to be vi over ssh as well |
| 18:28.26 | kitno455 | i could try installing a real vi and see if that helps |
| 18:28.42 | jbowler | Not for me, vi over ssh does full window (!80x24) fine, vi over minicom only works if the minicom window really is 80x24 |
| 18:28.53 | kitno455 | weird |
| 18:29.00 | VoodooZ | yep. Same here. vi over ssh is broken. On deletion of single character especially. |
| 18:29.07 | kitno455 | yes, yes |
| 18:29.47 | kitno455 | can we change TERM var on either side of connection, will that help? |
| 18:30.06 | kitno455 | VoodooZ, i am using fc4 as well. wonder if that is it |
| 18:30.10 | VoodooZ | openslug-3.1 returns a TERM of vt100 |
| 18:30.19 | kitno455 | so does ucslugc |
| 18:30.31 | VoodooZ | I'd be suprised though. |
| 18:30.45 | VoodooZ | but it's the same over ssh though. |
| 18:31.03 | kitno455 | with all of rh's locale crap, i am no longer surprised |
| 18:31.11 | kitno455 | i have been setting LC_ALL=C |
| 18:31.24 | kitno455 | not on this box, though, lets try it :) |
| 18:31.38 | VoodooZ | what's LC_ALL again? |
| 18:32.04 | kitno455 | override locale settings, put them back to old-time unix C |
| 18:32.17 | kitno455 | capitals before lower case in alpha sort, etc |
| 18:32.34 | eFfeM | kitno455, are it always the same chars you are missing? |
| 18:32.53 | kitno455 | dont think so, but maybe- hold on |
| 18:32.53 | eFfeM | VoodooZ, decided to buy the same audio thing that you have, ordered it yesterday |
| 18:33.16 | VoodooZ | eFfeM, good! |
| 18:33.18 | eFfeM | kitno455, if it is it might be a parity issue |
| 18:33.28 | VoodooZ | eFfeM, btw, I tried rebooting a few times and the sound always works. |
| 18:34.00 | eFfeM | $ 1 for the device, $ 8.5 for shipping and decided to fork an additional buck for insurance |
| 18:34.13 | eFfeM | first ebay purchase for me :-) |
| 18:35.14 | VoodooZ | sound good. |
| 18:35.30 | VoodooZ | I've been buying stuff from ebay since 2003 and I've never been frauded. |
| 18:35.38 | eFfeM | VoodooZ, good; forgot to ask if rebooting did keep the device working. Figured out it would from the reports in the wiki. |
| 18:36.11 | eFfeM | I'm not afraid of fraud, this one definitely sold quite a lot. Also the amount is not dramatical |
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| 18:44.36 | kitno455 | ok, the messed up chars problem seems to me unrelated to which char you are typeing |
| 18:44.44 | kitno455 | it is more about the sequence of chars |
| 18:45.49 | eFfeM | hm. nr of bits and nr of start/stop bits ok ? |
| 18:46.04 | kitno455 | i am using ssh |
| 18:46.18 | kitno455 | it happens over minicom too |
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| 18:47.03 | kitno455 | if you are against the left margin, and you hit i, it goes into insert mode. then the first char you type prints out twice |
| 18:48.12 | VoodooZ | yep. Sounds similar to mine. Where I hit x once and it looks like two chars were deleted but if you refresh the screen (page up then down) everything is fine. |
| 18:52.33 | VoodooZ | kitno455, actually, I don't seem to have the x problem anymore under an ssh session but I do have the i one. |
| 18:52.46 | VoodooZ | I'd have to test the same thing via minicom tonight from home. |
| 18:55.16 | eFfeM | oh, seems I've seen this as well (over ssh). is this the busybox vi? that one is pretty lousy, I've installed vim |
| 18:57.17 | kitno455 | ok, here-s the really weird part- if i shell into the box, then use minicom on it (to the usb serial adapter), minicom has the same problem |
| 19:00.11 | tkimball | Ooh, thanks for that note, I've been getting fustrated about vi on the slug. *installs* |
| 19:01.26 | tkimball | I've been so intent on getting irssi cross-compiling correctely (still not happening), I've had no time to really look at the ipkg listings. |
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| 19:03.43 | DeadZed | Hello. I know this is a firmware development channel .. but I cannot find a soultion googling. How do I access/configure my Linksys BEFW11S4 when Im using it as a switch? |
| 19:04.46 | kitno455 | wrong place DeadZed |
| 19:04.57 | kitno455 | we work on the nslu2 |
| 19:05.06 | kitno455 | not the BEFW... |
| 19:05.18 | DeadZed | you guys know about linksys routers prolly :) |
| 19:05.39 | kitno455 | are you trying to set it up with the default software on it? |
| 19:05.53 | kitno455 | or with a custom software |
| 19:07.58 | DeadZed | 3-rd party firmware cannot be used with this model. Im trying to access my router through web-interface ... I was able to do that with 192.168.1.1 when i was using it as a router, but Im using it as a switch now (to bypass NAT - plugged wan cable into lan port) |
| 19:13.59 | HopsNBarley | i finally got rid of my BEFW's... they just stopped working several times per week... |
| 19:14.29 | HopsNBarley | that said, you should be able to connect to it even if the internet port is unused. |
| 19:14.47 | HopsNBarley | i used one of them that way as a wireless long haul. |
| 19:14.51 | DeadZed | I got it cheap .. they do crash :( ... latest linksys wrt-s are good i think |
| 19:15.16 | HopsNBarley | i've had no problem with wrt54g v4 (linux) or v5 (the non-linux one) |
| 19:16.06 | HopsNBarley | we should switch channels, but i'm a chat noob... |
| 19:16.14 | kitno455 | the config interface only runs on the switch side ports anyway, right- it should make no difference |
| 19:16.38 | kitno455 | what does the wrt54g v5 run if not linux? |
| 19:16.44 | DeadZed | HopsNBarley can you remember how you accessed it when using as a switch |
| 19:17.17 | DeadZed | I think its common knowledge .. I need to enter some correct IP or smth |
| 19:17.45 | kitno455 | DeadZed, can you disconnect the wanlink, and hit a reset swtich? |
| 19:17.50 | kitno455 | if it has one |
| 19:17.56 | kitno455 | then you config as normal |
| 19:17.59 | HopsNBarley | i dunno. vxworks. |
| 19:18.11 | kitno455 | i wonder why? |
| 19:18.19 | kitno455 | lets them use less flash/ram? |
| 19:18.52 | HopsNBarley | guessing - they got burned on that GPL fiasco. the flash is half the size. |
| 19:19.18 | HopsNBarley | to reset to factory defaults don't you hold the switch in while you power it up? |
| 19:19.30 | HopsNBarley | even this should be in the nearly worthless manual (-; |
| 19:19.50 | DeadZed | yea, yea , nevermind |
| 19:20.13 | DeadZed | I just thought i could access it the way its set up now |
| 19:20.30 | HopsNBarley | after factory reset, i think it comes up as 192.168.1.1 on the switch ports. |
| 19:20.34 | DeadZed | I know how to configure a linksys router |
| 19:20.55 | DeadZed | the default 192.168.1.1 dont work when its set up as switch |
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| 19:21.20 | DeadZed | I'd need to reconnec cables and set it as a router again |
| 19:21.23 | kitno455 | DeadZed, you might be on your own |
| 19:21.27 | kitno455 | no- |
| 19:21.29 | DeadZed | :) |
| 19:21.31 | DeadZed | thanks |
| 19:21.41 | kitno455 | dont bother hooking up the wan link to the outside |
| 19:21.44 | HopsNBarley | that doesn't make any sense - there isn't a software setting that says "switch" or "router". it is simultaneously both. |
| 19:21.49 | kitno455 | right |
| 19:22.07 | kitno455 | have you turned off dhcp on the machine? |
| 19:22.29 | kitno455 | if so, just change your desktop machine to be on the ipnetwork that it used to give dhcp for |
| 19:22.36 | kitno455 | and connect to its address! |
| 19:22.47 | HopsNBarley | did you reset the lan side address? You might try using a linux box and see if it emits any packets when it boots -that could help you recover the address. you could also ping various broadcast addresses and see if it appears in the arp cache. |
| 19:23.17 | kitno455 | if the lan side address used to be 192.168.1.1, i bet it still is! |
| 19:23.32 | kitno455 | just change your desktop machine to .2, and try it |
| 19:23.33 | DeadZed | HopsNBarley I needed to bypass NAT and dhcp on this BEFW11S4 and google told me that linksys can be used as switch if I plug wan into one of the lan ports - it does work :) .. cause I need have unforwarded access to internet |
| 19:24.00 | kitno455 | sure- sure but you did not really cut off the router function |
| 19:24.05 | kitno455 | its still there |
| 19:24.39 | kitno455 | just set your desktop to an ip on the same subnet as the machine used to use, and connect to it |
| 19:25.04 | HopsNBarley | yes, that can work, but only if your upstream device knows about the multiple addresses you will be using. this would not be the norm for standard DSL/cable modem (although available as an option) |
| 19:25.57 | kitno455 | i wonder if it is sending dhcp out of your wan port :) |
| 19:26.32 | HopsNBarley | think of it this way - your upstream router is at X.1, you'll need to set your switch at X.2, and your devices at X.3, 4, ... |
| 19:27.02 | HopsNBarley | it probably is, but that doesn't matter. |
| 19:28.08 | kitno455 | HopsNBarley, i bet his switch lan ip is not on the subnet from his isp. i bet its on the old rfc1918 addr |
| 19:28.46 | kitno455 | i once took over a hotel guest network by bringing in my own dhcp server... |
| 19:28.54 | DeadZed | ok, I have d-link (192.168.0.1, 255.255.255.0) (router 1 - connected to internet), linksys (was 192.168.1.1, 255.255.255.0)(router 2 - connected to d-link) (now using it as switch) |
| 19:29.06 | kitno455 | ok |
| 19:29.31 | HopsNBarley | the 0.1 is the lan side dlink? |
| 19:29.33 | kitno455 | DeadZed, now change th ip on your desktop to be on the 192.168.1 network, and connect to the .1 |
| 19:29.47 | DeadZed | wait |
| 19:31.03 | DeadZed | so I'll change my current desktop gateway address from 192.168.0.1 (d-link) to 192.168.1.1 (linksys)? |
| 19:31.39 | DeadZed | I think I'll become disconnected |
| 19:31.43 | kitno455 | not your gateway, your IP! |
| 19:31.46 | HopsNBarley | the LAN side dlink, linksys address, and desktop must all be in the same network! |
| 19:31.48 | kitno455 | yes, you will |
| 19:31.57 | kitno455 | HopsNBarley, not tru |
| 19:32.16 | kitno455 | the linksys can be off on its own, it wont hurt anything |
| 19:32.23 | kitno455 | you just cant reach it to config it |
| 19:32.27 | HopsNBarley | if you want them to talk to each other without proxy arp it's true... |
| 19:32.35 | HopsNBarley | but wasn't that the question to start? |
| 19:32.47 | kitno455 | the question was how do i config |
| 19:32.55 | kitno455 | now that i cant reach it :) |
| 19:33.08 | DeadZed | yea, cause I'd want to config wireless on that linksys |
| 19:33.14 | HopsNBarley | of course, he can use it as a dumb switch... ah, i misunderstood. |
| 19:33.21 | kitno455 | right- now you see |
| 19:33.45 | kitno455 | DeadZed, if you want to config the linksys, your pc must be on the same subnet |
| 19:33.52 | HopsNBarley | no - then i did understand - you need config acess to it, so they all must be on the same IP network. |
| 19:34.06 | DeadZed | I need to use it as a switch , cause if I use it as a router, I cannot accept incoming connections (I think) |
| 19:34.07 | kitno455 | you must change the ip of your machine to be 192.168.1.2 |
| 19:34.19 | kitno455 | ITS ONLY TEMPORARY |
| 19:34.40 | HopsNBarley | we still don't have enough info - is the LAN address of the dlink 0.1? |
| 19:35.03 | kitno455 | i think it must be a router to use the wireless? |
| 19:35.15 | kitno455 | or does it act as a bridge? |
| 19:35.21 | HopsNBarley | i didn't use it that way - think of the wireless as an extention of the switch. |
| 19:35.41 | kitno455 | ok |
| 19:35.44 | DeadZed | umm d-link is 192.168.0.1 .. wait I'll thy what kitno455 suggested |
| 19:36.08 | kitno455 | move it to be on the dlink subnet when you get acess to it |
| 19:36.19 | kitno455 | then you wont have to do this stupid thing again |
| 19:36.38 | kitno455 | better yet- trash all this low grade consumer crap, and get somehting that doesnt suck :) |
| 19:36.41 | kitno455 | hahah |
| 19:37.38 | HopsNBarley | then kitno is right - 1.2 should get you TEMP. config access to the linksys at 1.1 - though you will loose your internet connection to do so. be sure just one of the devices is your DHCP server! |
| 19:38.47 | eFfeM | for some reason I still have problems with wget: |
| 19:38.48 | eFfeM | Connecting to ipkg.nslu2-linux.org[66.159.209.6]:80... failed: Address family not supported by protocol. |
| 19:39.10 | eFfeM | does this work for any of you |
| 19:39.20 | eFfeM | no ipkg update for me without it ! |
| 19:39.52 | HopsNBarley | i had to comment out the --enable-ipv6 line in the bb file. |
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| 19:40.20 | HopsNBarley | you're back! |
| 19:40.33 | DeadZed-- | heh, i was able to access linksys with 129.168.1.2 :) |
| 19:40.59 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, will try that (actually I changed config.h but probably that was not enough) |
| 19:41.27 | HopsNBarley | this was in the 1.9.1 version. there was talk of a fix, and i haven't done a pull to see yet.... |
| 19:41.36 | DeadZed-- | I dont know ANUTHING about routers or netwotworks really, so thanks guys |
| 19:42.26 | HopsNBarley | DeadZed: no problem, happy to help. Did you turn off the DHCP in the linksys, or did you fix it's address to 192.168.0.X ??? |
| 19:42.43 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, I did an update yesterday, and it was not there. |
| 19:42.53 | DeadZed-- | I didnt configure it yet |
| 19:43.00 | HopsNBarley | eFfeM: thanks - that'll save me some time. |
| 19:43.18 | DeadZed-- | so now that Im using it as a switch I should turn off dhcp and nat in it? |
| 19:43.19 | eFfeM | also tried 1.10.2, but it complains out-of-the-box about a file missing (aclocal.m4 or something like that) |
| 19:43.39 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, my pleasure, we're here to help eachother isn't it? |
| 19:43.47 | HopsNBarley | DeadZed: NAT doesn't matter - that's on the WAN port. |
| 19:43.57 | DeadZed-- | I've seen some REALLY complicated setups and howtos with several routers on the network, but for now I'll just use one router as a switch |
| 19:44.25 | HopsNBarley | DeadZed: on DHCP - it depends - who do you want to serve DHCP - the Dlink or the Linksys - there could be good reasons for either - my point is make sure it's just ONE of them! |
| 19:44.58 | HopsNBarley | DeadZed: and also that the linksys ison the right network for future config work (-; |
| 19:45.35 | HopsNBarley | eFfeM: betcha' |
| 19:46.34 | DeadZed-- | what if i put both routers on same subnet, will d-link boxes be able to see linksys boxes? |
| 19:46.47 | DeadZed-- | nevermind, its all too complicated |
| 19:47.14 | kitno455 | DeadZed--, yes |
| 19:47.17 | HopsNBarley | that's not complicated - these are just IP devices - and sure you could do that. |
| 19:47.25 | kitno455 | but they cant do anything to each other |
| 19:47.51 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, commented out the --enable-ipv6 and a force-reinstall and it started working again; thanks |
| 19:47.54 | kitno455 | just give everything under the sun an ip on your main nat'd network |
| 19:48.08 | kitno455 | only have one dhcp server, and you are set |
| 19:48.10 | DeadZed-- | do you know a good page I should read to educate myself about multiple router cofigs and networks? |
| 19:48.17 | kitno455 | haha |
| 19:48.33 | kitno455 | anyone who is capable of writing such a page would not build such a network :) |
| 19:48.38 | HopsNBarley | uh, any good IP introduction. there must be thousands of them. |
| 19:49.01 | kitno455 | kidding- HopsNBarley is right |
| 19:49.30 | eFfeM | eFfeMnet is one router, one router as switch only with wifi and one switch, couldn't get it all connected otherwise |
| 19:49.41 | HopsNBarley | it's really all pretty simple once you grasp ARP, that an address must always be paired with a mask, and the fundamental IP routing algortihm. |
| 19:49.59 | eFfeM | some 7 networked devices in the house |
| 19:50.25 | DeadZed-- | which devices? |
| 19:50.36 | HopsNBarley | Hops net is 3 wireless AP's, 2 switches, linux firewall, 5 or so computers |
| 19:51.08 | HopsNBarley | Need coffee. will return... |
| 19:51.29 | eFfeM | 3 computers, 1 laptop, 2 digital media adapters, 1 stereo set suppoting internet radio and of course a slug (oh that makes 8) |
| 19:51.59 | kitno455 | i'm at the office, the net here is pretty good. the net at home is a linux box with a modem! |
| 19:52.20 | DeadZed-- | dial-uP? |
| 19:53.27 | HopsNBarley | eFfeM - do you know how to compile natively? I set up the tool chain and that works. but apache "do_package" fails with "Couldn't find shared library provider for <various libraries>" |
| 19:54.01 | DeadZed-- | do you guys develop this firmware for free? |
| 19:54.07 | HopsNBarley | should you even be running bitbake on the slug natively? |
| 19:54.11 | kitno455 | DeadZed--, yeap- i live in the boondocks |
| 19:54.19 | caplink811_log | wow, a travel to the past |
| 19:54.33 | kitno455 | no cable, no dsl |
| 19:54.40 | DeadZed-- | are you all on linuxboxes somewhere in new york? |
| 19:54.45 | tkimball | Hmm. Two cable modems (roommmate is paying for his), my Netgear switch supports a desktop and two notebooks. His Linksys (first version) supports a desktop, two ReplayTV, and an occasional 'floater' PC of some sort or other. |
| 19:54.55 | kitno455 | out in the country |
| 19:54.57 | HopsNBarley | dude - a modem? actually, i'm in the sticks too, and just made the jump last year when dsl finally came in. |
| 19:55.05 | kitno455 | no dsl here. |
| 19:55.13 | HopsNBarley | how about EVDO? |
| 19:55.15 | kitno455 | i am thinking about direcway |
| 19:55.45 | HopsNBarley | on verizon i think you get unlimited 9pm-7am. |
| 19:55.52 | tkimball | Oh, correction. Mine is a desktop, slug, and two notebooks. ;) |
| 19:57.10 | DeadZed-- | Whats OpenSlug firmware like? is it like ordinary linux with unix tree etc, except less files or smth |
| 19:57.11 | kitno455 | never looked at it closely |
| 19:57.31 | kitno455 | DeadZed--, it is a full-featured linux box |
| 19:57.45 | DeadZed-- | can I install debian on it then :) |
| 19:57.47 | kitno455 | you can install packages for many apps |
| 19:57.48 | kitno455 | yes |
| 19:57.51 | kitno455 | you can |
| 19:57.53 | DeadZed-- | really :O |
| 19:57.56 | kitno455 | yes |
| 19:57.59 | kitno455 | reallyu |
| 19:58.06 | kitno455 | s/reallyu/really/ |
| 19:59.54 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, i compile natively if needed but without bb. i've never set up a native toolchain, just an ipkg install gcc (and g++ and probably also some friends like gdb) |
| 20:00.13 | DeadZed-- | ahaa http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article85-page3.php |
| 20:00.49 | eFfeM | for apache you might need to build those missing libs first (maybe adding them in the RDEPENDS in the .bb file also helps) |
| 20:01.19 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, there are two things I compile natively |
| 20:01.38 | eFfeM | one are a few proggies I've developed myself (e.g. my recording daemon) |
| 20:02.01 | eFfeM | the other are some progrs that are not available |
| 20:02.14 | eFfeM | especially when I started and did not know anything about bb |
| 20:02.25 | tkimball | eFfeM: How well has that worked so far, doing native compile? And do they use glib? |
| 20:03.06 | *** part/#openslug DeadZed-- (n=deadzed@80-235-39-27-dsl.mus.estpak.ee) |
| 20:03.07 | eFfeM | tkimball, native compile works fine and at some point I even compiled php natively. No idea on glib |
| 20:03.29 | eFfeM | or do you mean glibc? |
| 20:03.36 | HopsNBarley | i misphrased my question. I should have "how to I package natively". The libraries bitbake is complaining about are infact installed. |
| 20:03.36 | tkimball | I'm curious, since every attempt of an irssi cross-compile has failed. |
| 20:03.41 | tkimball | glibc I think yes. |
| 20:04.24 | eFfeM | yeah that is on my sys |
| 20:04.38 | eFfeM | just tried ipkg list | wc |
| 20:04.43 | eFfeM | guess what: 4357 |
| 20:04.53 | eFfeM | HopsNBarley, have never done that |
| 20:05.07 | tkimball | The ipkg irssi or your own compile? ipkg has perl etc turned off, I want them enabled. |
| 20:05.11 | HopsNBarley | dammmmmn. |
| 20:05.55 | eFfeM | tkimball, was that to me. Don't think I use irssi (actually no idea what it is ...) |
| 20:06.27 | tkimball | eFfeM: irssi is IRC client. What I'm using from the slug today to reach here. :) |
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| 20:19.51 | eFfeM | tkimball, understood, I use xchat on my pc to connect to miau running on my slug |
| 20:20.16 | eFfeM | took some time ro respond as I created a reboot-neede situation :-) |
| 20:21.18 | tkimball | I'd love to use a BNC, but work requires connections via http/https only now. So I'm thinking of generating an irssi module. |
| 20:21.57 | tkimball | Problem of course is that irssi on slugos is not compiled with openssl, perl, or proxy. |
| 20:26.44 | EvilDevil[A] | does anyone knows how the find out the pi |
| 20:26.57 | EvilDevil[A] | damn |
| 20:27.35 | EvilDevil[A] | pins of some pl2303 usb-to-serial cell phone data cable |
| 20:32.33 | kitno455 | EvilDevil[A], a volmeter or scope while its plugged in |
| 20:32.40 | kitno455 | s/vol/volt/ |
| 20:33.11 | EvilDevil[A] | i got 4 pins: black, blue, red, white.... black<-> blue (gnd on black) gives 0.07 volts, black <-> white 3.26 volts |
| 20:33.41 | EvilDevil[A] | black <-> red: 0 volt |
| 20:34.06 | kitno455 | try opening minicom to it, and type a whole bunch |
| 20:34.16 | kitno455 | while looking at black to blue |
| 20:34.24 | kitno455 | with the meter |
| 20:34.36 | kitno455 | if the voltage jumps around, that is tx |
| 20:34.44 | kitno455 | do the same with the others |
| 20:34.57 | EvilDevil[A] | ok |
| 20:35.16 | kitno455 | i bet white is 3.3v power |
| 20:35.43 | kitno455 | i bet white is 3.3v and red/blue is rx/tx |
| 20:35.49 | kitno455 | though that could be tx/rx |
| 20:36.40 | EvilDevil[A] | black <-> red 0.8 volts ... |
| 20:36.55 | kitno455 | does it jump around? |
| 20:37.04 | kitno455 | while you type |
| 20:37.22 | EvilDevil[A] | no clue.. tried hyperterminal, but it crashed *??* |
| 20:37.32 | kitno455 | hahah get a real os :) |
| 20:37.55 | EvilDevil[A] | that would mean that i have to change my notebook |
| 20:37.56 | kitno455 | can you install minicom on your slug? |
| 20:38.04 | kitno455 | and ssh into your slug? |
| 20:38.50 | EvilDevil[A] | that would mean that i have to go to the floor.... :-/ |
| 20:38.50 | kitno455 | i have run minicom from slug over usbserial connector, it works ok, not great, but good enough |
| 20:39.07 | kitno455 | just for testing |
| 20:39.43 | kitno455 | only other option is to cut open the part where the chip is, and trace the pinout |
| 20:39.58 | kitno455 | or get a friend with a scope and a linux box :) |
| 20:40.59 | EvilDevil[A] | i got a linux box... well.. i got 4 of them |
| 20:41.33 | EvilDevil[A] | well... ok, i'll go to the icy, cold room where they reside |
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| 20:46.57 | evildevil | ok |
| 20:47.13 | kitno455 | ok |
| 20:47.18 | kitno455 | you are smaller now :) |
| 20:47.49 | kitno455 | the gnd and Vcc lines should stay stable while typing |
| 20:48.02 | evildevil | tx should change? |
| 20:48.05 | kitno455 | the tx line should fluctuate |
| 20:48.16 | evildevil | rx should stay stable i guess :) |
| 20:48.19 | kitno455 | compaired to either gnd or vcc |
| 20:48.32 | kitno455 | the rx is anyones guess |
| 20:48.49 | kitno455 | connect the rx to the tx, and type to yourself :) |
| 20:49.26 | evildevil | this is creating a whole new meaning... |
| 20:49.39 | evildevil | Nullmodem-cable |
| 20:49.47 | kitno455 | no- loopback plug |
| 20:50.29 | evildevil | i once saw them on some weird lesbian tv show ;) |
| 20:50.57 | kitno455 | hahah |
| 20:51.06 | kitno455 | thats something else i think |
| 20:51.22 | kitno455 | you get minicom fired up? |
| 20:51.49 | evildevil | installed it... i'm configuring it now |
| 20:52.17 | evildevil | ok |
| 20:53.24 | evildevil | what was the connection you suggested? black to red? |
| 21:05.31 | kitno455 | evildevil, yeah- try black to red thru the meter, and type |
| 21:08.41 | evildevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:09.20 | evildevil | i'm setting baud rate to 300... maybe this helps |
| 21:12.20 | evildevil | it's just changing from 0.00 to -0.00 :-/ |
| 21:13.50 | evildevil | i think blue is tx :-) black to blue gives me little peaks |
| 21:14.11 | evildevil | black to white ~ 3.3 v |
| 21:16.17 | evildevil | black = GND, white = V+, red = RX, blue = Tx |
| 21:16.25 | kitno455 | sure |
| 21:17.24 | evildevil | blue to red -> 200mV |
| 21:17.41 | kitno455 | connect blue to red dirrectly. no meter |
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| 21:17.45 | kitno455 | then type |
| 21:18.04 | evildevil | nothing |
| 21:18.20 | evildevil | but it put some @@@ on the screen while connecting |
| 21:18.38 | kitno455 | but no @@@ if it is disconnected? |
| 21:18.48 | evildevil | .... 8 |
| 21:19.45 | kitno455 | i bet you got it. |
| 21:21.04 | evildevil | funny.. if i touch blue, it puts chars on the screen :) |
| 21:21.51 | evildevil | seems like my fingers got something to tell |
| 21:22.13 | evildevil | would be cool to use this as an alternative to the keyboard ;-) |
| 21:22.25 | caplink811_log | :) |
| 21:23.02 | evildevil | well.. i guess i need some more training for that |
| 21:23.19 | kitno455 | blue might be rx then? |
| 21:23.55 | evildevil | might be ... |
| 21:25.16 | evildevil | sometimes when i touch blue and released it again, it still is drawing chars.... it stops after i touch red |
| 21:25.50 | evildevil | damn electronics |
| 21:26.04 | evildevil | (damn cheap voltmeter) |
| 21:27.10 | kitno455 | haha |
| 21:27.42 | caplink811_log | an analogue one is better for that kind of task |
| 21:28.15 | evildevil | sure... but i don't have one :-( |
| 21:31.08 | kitno455 | anyone know how to FORCE reflash to write out the fs image? |
| 21:31.26 | kitno455 | i screwed up the contents, and now it refuses to overwrite it |
| 21:31.36 | kitno455 | even though mtdblock4 is empty |
| 21:32.02 | evildevil | use dd if=... of=/dev/mtdblock4 |
| 21:34.14 | kitno455 | lets see if i have dd |
| 21:34.17 | kitno455 | :) |
| 21:34.59 | evildevil | dd is the one with the blue and the red wire |
| 21:35.02 | evildevil | :-O |
| 21:36.21 | kitno455 | yes, seems to have dd :) |
| 21:37.33 | kitno455 | boy dd sure is slow |
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| 21:40.43 | evildevil | well.... i still have no clue what color is tx/rx |
| 21:41.00 | kitno455 | evildevil, it does not matter |
| 21:41.09 | kitno455 | hook it up, if it does not work, switch it |
| 21:41.18 | kitno455 | it wont hurt it |
| 21:41.24 | kitno455 | i hope :) |
| 21:41.40 | evildevil | if it breaks, i'm gonna (virtually) throw it at you |
| 21:41.53 | kitno455 | hell- i will virtually buy you a new one |
| 21:42.08 | evildevil | this would be virtually nice |
| 21:43.06 | evildevil | http://cgi.ebay.de/Voltmeter-analog-neu_W0QQitemZ6032703783QQcategoryZ42630QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <- this seems a little too analogue |
| 21:43.15 | kitno455 | the slug side is very robust. i connected all four pins of the serial header to ground once. my minicom session stopped |
| 21:43.25 | kitno455 | but the slug was fine |
| 21:44.14 | evildevil | ok, i'll give it a try... tomorrow :-) |
| 21:44.21 | evildevil | thanks for your help kitno455 |
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| 21:44.58 | kitno455 | np |
| 21:45.07 | kitno455 | i was looking to do this myself |
| 21:45.26 | kitno455 | my current serial adapter is build from components |
| 21:45.53 | kitno455 | the cell-phone route seems faster |
| 21:46.56 | evildevil | well.. this cell-phone usb-to-serial adapter was never working... piece of crap |
| 21:48.50 | evildevil | i'm starting to freeze. *brrr* switching to notebook/livingroom again |
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| 22:06.00 | mtb | Hi - is there a known USB storage problem with 2.7? I'm getting a crash when inserting some USB sticks... |
| 22:17.38 | tkimball | mtb: What's maker of the stick? I'm using a wiped Lexar Secure myself, perfectly happy. |
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| 22:47.54 | mtb | oops sorry. Um the one giving me trouble today is an ipod shuffle |
| 22:48.22 | mtb | works fine on my x86 desktop with 2.6.12, but not on the slug |
| 22:53.20 | tkimball | Ah. I thought you were mentioning a mounted drive for filesystem. |
| 22:56.41 | NAiL | mtb: do you get any info in the log? |
| 22:58.09 | NAiL | I don't think there has been problems with the slug crashing when inserting a usb-stick. Some stick have not been detected, but no crashes. |
| 23:16.01 | mtb | sorry - fighting the thing here |
| 23:16.16 | mtb | crashing on insert - not when mounting |
| 23:16.59 | mtb | It behaves as normal until it gets to: |
| 23:17.03 | mtb | user.debug kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning |
| 23:17.33 | mtb | usuanlly there is about a 1 sec delay and then the scsi driver does it's stuff |
| 23:17.52 | mtb | but I'm getting nothing for about 30 sec, and then: |
| 23:18.13 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.info kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 4 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 |
| 23:18.13 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.info kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 7 |
| 23:18.13 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete |
| 23:18.14 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.alert kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000008 |
| 23:18.14 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.alert kernel: pgd = c0004000 |
| 23:18.16 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.alert kernel: [00000008] *pgd=00000000 |
| 23:18.18 | mtb | Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.warn kernel: Internal error: Oops: 17 [#1] |
| 23:18.19 | NAiL | ouch |
| 23:18.38 | NAiL | well, OpenSlug 3.x is probably right around the corner |
| 23:18.45 | mtb | which is only really recoverable by a reboot:( |
| 23:18.50 | mtb | oh? |
| 23:19.07 | mtb | is there info on whats new anywhere? |
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| 23:19.24 | NAiL | If I understand correctly, there's only one problem left to fix before a release |
| 23:19.27 | NAiL | morning, rwhitby |
| 23:20.41 | NAiL | The kernel is upgraded to 2.6.15.1 (Could probably change to .2 before release) |
| 23:20.50 | NAiL | the network drivers are updated |
| 23:21.07 | NAiL | A lot of packages are updated :) |
| 23:22.40 | NAiL | You might wanna wait until the 3.x release and see if the problem goes away |
| 23:22.43 | mtb | is there anyway O could get my hands on the firmware to see if that sorts this USB issue? |
| 23:22.59 | NAiL | You could build the almost-3.x from HEAD |
| 23:23.31 | NAiL | You'd need a linux box to build it on... Google for MasterMakefile. The first hit is the one you want. |
| 23:24.52 | mtb | ok cool - I have a cross dev enviroment set up for my adventures with slug-gentoo |
| 23:25.33 | NAiL | the MasterMakefile will build a new one though |
| 23:29.26 | mtb | It is recommended, but not essential, to make a new user, to build using the Master Makefile. -- -- NB: Root access required |
| 23:29.29 | mtb | Huh? :) |
| 23:33.16 | NAiL | Root access is required to make a user ;) |
| 23:33.41 | NAiL | the user does *not* need root. If you build as root, you risk b0rking your system. |
| 23:34.25 | NAiL | and, root user is needed for the "make <distro>-setup" targets |
| 23:34.35 | mtb | Ah ok:) |
| 23:34.35 | NAiL | they just install the required packages |
| 23:42.28 | mtb | OK, thanks NAiL, I'll give it a spin tomorrow when in the office |
| 23:43.10 | NAiL | np |