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| 10:20.46 | eFfeM | ~seen beewoolie |
| 10:20.50 | apt | beewoolie <n=beewooli@206.124.142.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #openjtag, 1d 2h 13m 41s ago, saying: 'Ah, now I see. It's burried in the description.'. |
| 10:22.04 | eFfeM | morning everyone |
| 10:22.19 | eFfeM | philips any progress on audio? |
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| 17:09.35 | eFfeM | just managed to load and start apex.bin using tftp |
| 17:10.11 | eFfeM | as I have no serial yet, (yeah, I know I should spend some time on it) I can only see that it starts (beep + led turns red) |
| 17:10.34 | eFfeM | anyway, added some meat to the wiki page concerning this experiment: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RunApex |
| 17:10.50 | eFfeM | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RunApex |
| 17:20.02 | sinclair73de | my slug is running with apex, but i have a serial... |
| 17:34.35 | eFfeM | mental note: someone promised me a cable, need to check if it is already available |
| 17:35.11 | [g2] | sinclair73de did you flash APEX ? |
| 17:36.23 | eFfeM | if I could telnet into it like I could do with apex, I think I would be able to find the courage to flash it (power outages are very rare here) |
| 17:39.36 | sinclair73de | yes, after testing it in sdram |
| 17:40.20 | [g2] | sinclair73de cool. Do you know about the APEX list ? |
| 17:40.43 | [g2] | and what are you using APEX for ? |
| 17:40.59 | sinclair73de | APEX list? |
| 17:41.24 | sinclair73de | Using apex for 128mb ram access |
| 17:41.34 | [g2] | one sec... |
| 17:41.40 | [g2] | search for the URL |
| 17:42.00 | [g2] | did you go with 32M16 parts ? |
| 17:42.09 | eFfeM | sinclair73de, did you upgrade the slug yourself to 128M ? |
| 17:42.19 | eFfeM | pretty cool |
| 17:42.51 | [g2] | sinclair73de I see you are #4 on the Alternate Bootloaders list :) |
| 17:42.58 | sinclair73de | yes 32M16 |
| 17:42.58 | eFfeM | haven't really run into memory issues, but I feel sometimes I'm filling it up reasonably well |
| 17:43.25 | eFfeM | cool, wish I could do that, but it is way beyond my soldering capabilities |
| 17:44.34 | sinclair73de | yes, i'm unsolded und soldered the two chips |
| 17:45.09 | sinclair73de | not easy this work |
| 17:45.13 | NAiL | nope |
| 17:45.14 | [g2] | heh |
| 17:45.23 | NAiL | I might've broken one of my slugs :-P |
| 17:45.45 | [g2] | sinclair73de I was going to sell memory modded slugs and have professional re-work done |
| 17:46.22 | sinclair73de | i thought this too... but the problem was a bad soldered pin of the ram |
| 17:47.19 | NAiL | I managed to break a solder pad. Fortunately it was NC |
| 17:47.38 | sinclair73de | g2: whats the cost for these mod? |
| 17:48.42 | [g2] | sinclair73de to bump to 64MB memory and add serial was like and extra $75 at cost |
| 17:48.56 | [g2] | that was just the serial header |
| 17:49.01 | sinclair73de | the pads are no problem, i used hot air to unsolder |
| 17:49.18 | [g2] | sinclair73de are you in DE ? |
| 17:49.36 | sinclair73de | g2: yes |
| 17:50.17 | sinclair73de | why? |
| 17:51.01 | eFfeM | btw, do you know this guy: http://www.sigmadesigns.com/pdf_docs/Envision8634_br.pdf |
| 17:51.24 | eFfeM | 300 mhz mips, additional high definition mpeg encoder etc |
| 17:51.31 | eFfeM | looks like a very neat toy to me |
| 17:51.46 | [g2] | sinclair73de do you do much rework ? |
| 17:52.35 | [g2] | and sinclair73de which OS are you running unslung, openslug, or debian ? |
| 17:52.40 | sinclair73de | anyone tried to run Debianslug (LE) with apex? |
| 17:52.52 | [g2] | I'm running Debian LE on my hw |
| 17:52.57 | sinclair73de | g2: running openslug 2.7 |
| 17:53.21 | [g2] | have you run stressful HD access with > 64MB enabled ? |
| 17:53.41 | sinclair73de | g2: is it possible to test the Debianslug-image in ram with apex or must i flash it? |
| 17:54.38 | [g2] | sinclair73de are you JTAG enabled ? |
| 17:55.14 | sinclair73de | copy about 500mb is no problem, but nfs access to these (mpg)-files crashes the slug |
| 17:55.37 | sinclair73de | i dont know why... |
| 17:56.09 | [g2] | do you get errors ? |
| 17:56.26 | sinclair73de | g2: no, jtag not enabled, but i have a jtag adapter if i need one |
| 17:56.42 | sinclair73de | yes... but not logged |
| 17:56.54 | [g2] | and more importantly some decent soldering skills :) |
| 17:57.02 | sinclair73de | the next time i copy it |
| 17:58.50 | sinclair73de | i recorded 3GB mpeg data from my dbox2 with udrec (a mono application) on my slug, that works without any problems |
| 17:59.44 | [g2] | Is that running the 2.6.11.12 kernel ? |
| 18:00.20 | sinclair73de | what? |
| 18:01.26 | [g2] | sinclair73de I was wondering which kernel you were using with 2.7 |
| 18:03.03 | [g2] | sinclair73de I've got to run out right now |
| 18:03.23 | [g2] | could you possibly e-mail me ? |
| 18:03.39 | [g2] | The contact @ http://www.giantshoulderinc.com |
| 18:03.49 | sinclair73de | 2.6.12.2 |
| 18:04.08 | [g2] | You may want to see the http://www.giantshoulderinc.com/hw-4533 pics |
| 18:04.25 | [g2] | or http://www.giantshoulderinc.com/ab3/case.jpg |
| 18:04.36 | EvilDevil | sinclair73de udrec? what system were you using? debianslug? |
| 18:04.56 | [g2] | EvilDevil openslug 2.7 |
| 18:04.58 | sinclair73de | ok, g2 i email to you |
| 18:05.02 | [g2] | THX |
| 18:05.22 | [g2] | I'll e-mail back in a bit (a couple hours) |
| 18:05.29 | [g2] | bbl |
| 18:05.51 | sinclair73de | EvilDevil: you know udrec? |
| 18:06.32 | EvilDevil | sinclair73de yep, i followed the discussion about porting it... :) would be nice because recording with nfs isn't that reliable here |
| 18:08.28 | eFfeM | EvilDevil, sinclair73de, why record using nfs. That means you always need another system on while recording. I record on a local hd, then stream using UPnP or playback on pc using nfs & mplayer |
| 18:09.26 | EvilDevil | eFfeM: dbox2 doesn't support internal hd... |
| 18:09.41 | EvilDevil | eFfeM and my slug is up 24/7 anyway |
| 18:10.43 | sinclair73de | i still using a notebook with suse for recording with udrec_suite and want to do this on my slug (is possible) |
| 18:11.21 | eFfeM | EvilDevil, I now understand. didn't know what a dbox2 is. I run a hauppauge pvrusb2 on my slug (the one with the hw mpeg2 encoder) |
| 18:11.41 | eFfeM | so my recording happens on the slug (which is also on 24/7) |
| 18:12.41 | EvilDevil | eFfeM a dbox2 is a set top box for dvb-s with 10mbit ethernet interface |
| 18:12.59 | sinclair73de | and running linux :-) |
| 18:13.23 | eFfeM | EvilDevil, is this similar to dreambox ? |
| 18:14.00 | EvilDevil | eFfeM yes.. the dreambox is kind of a successor to the dbox2 |
| 18:14.16 | eFfeM | ah ok |
| 18:15.11 | eFfeM | they're nice |
| 18:15.30 | EvilDevil | but pretty buggy... ;) |
| 18:17.37 | EvilDevil | anyway... sinclair73de how did you compile udrec? |
| 18:19.01 | sinclair73de | i compile udrec on my windows pc under vs2003, but compiling mono native on the slug was not simple |
| 18:19.42 | sinclair73de | i think not everything is working, but what i need works |
| 18:20.30 | EvilDevil | okay... was there any code-mangling ? |
| 18:21.58 | sinclair73de | i dont know what code-mangling meens |
| 18:22.28 | EvilDevil | changing makefiles / source-code? |
| 18:23.41 | sinclair73de | in mono? no, i loaded the precompiles runtime and compile it native... i got many warnings because of the BE, but it works |
| 18:24.07 | EvilDevil | okay... did you built mono from the source? |
| 18:24.41 | sinclair73de | no, thats not working... i tried it, but no success |
| 18:26.29 | EvilDevil | well.. i'll try it later... on debianslug... :-) thanks for the infos so far |
| 18:26.47 | sinclair73de | i want try this too |
| 18:27.16 | sinclair73de | i think LE is better for this |
| 18:27.36 | EvilDevil | good to hear that :) may need some expert advice on this |
| 18:27.52 | sinclair73de | EvilDevil: what is your slug running? OpenSlug? OpenDebianSlug? |
| 18:28.47 | EvilDevil | debianslug Linux slug 2.6.15 #1 Thu Jan 19 12:14:56 GMT 2006 armv5tel GNU/Linux |
| 18:29.42 | sinclair73de | and what bootloader? |
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| 18:30.48 | EvilDevil | stock redboot |
| 18:32.03 | sinclair73de | no idea how to run debianslug without flashing? |
| 18:34.36 | EvilDevil | no, sorry |
| 18:35.07 | EvilDevil | maybe telnet into redboot and load firmware by tftp |
| 18:36.45 | sinclair73de | i tried these... but got many error, seams Endian specific problems |
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| 18:48.05 | EvilDevil | no clue.. haven't tried it at all :) |
| 18:48.42 | EvilDevil | just did a straight flash from SerComm |
| 18:49.03 | EvilDevil | why don't you just back up your old flashimage and flash the new one? |
| 18:51.22 | sinclair73de | thats possible... changes flashing with sercomm anything on the bootloader? |
| 18:52.44 | EvilDevil | i'm not sure. it didn't change my bootloader, but if you're using another bootloader you may get other results |
| 18:54.42 | sinclair73de | thats why i'm ask, i dont know if it works with apex, and where in in boot process the cpu is switched to LE |
| 18:57.53 | EvilDevil | i think there were some mails on the nslu2-developer mailing list about this topic |
| 19:22.08 | NAiL | morning, jbowler |
| 19:24.19 | jbowler | morning... have you seen devlabel? |
| 19:24.43 | NAiL | not gotten around to looking at it, read the mail though |
| 19:25.40 | NAiL | looks like a good idea |
| 19:34.25 | NAiL | is there any reason not to do a release when devlabel works? |
| 19:34.56 | NAiL | ugh |
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| 19:38.56 | jbowler | devlabel, if it works, and a working 'beep' command - need to find the source for the Debian package... |
| 19:40.26 | tbm | http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/b/beep/ the .tar and the .diff |
| 19:40.45 | tbm | plus the patch in http://bugs.debian.org/350214 |
| 19:42.59 | jbowler | The source is at http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/b/beep/ |
| 19:43.07 | jbowler | Oops, bad paste... |
| 19:43.18 | jbowler | The source is at http://johnath.com/beep/ |
| 19:43.45 | jbowler | Now at 1.2.2 |
| 19:46.18 | tbm | Debian seems to have loads of patches in the diff, btw |
| 19:56.58 | EvilDevil | n8 |
| 20:06.27 | NAiL | jbowler: what's the problem with devlabel? |
| 20:06.37 | NAiL | I'm not home, so I can't test it on a slug right now |
| 20:06.44 | jbowler | I don't think there is one yet - I just haven't looked at it (I've just built it...) |
| 20:06.50 | NAiL | ah, ok |
| 20:07.03 | jbowler | It sounds like it does the right thing, but I'm not sure how it interacts with udev |
| 20:08.02 | NAiL | I'll try it out later tonight |
| 20:08.03 | jbowler | I think turnup can drive it to add something like '/dev/root' and /linuxrc can mount using the -U option (so the fstab has /dev/root) |
| 20:08.43 | NAiL | sounds good |
| 20:09.11 | jbowler | beep 1.2.2 compiles, now to see if it works ;-) |
| 20:12.15 | jbowler | I think maybe I should start stripping shell scripts, /sbin/sysconf is 24k and only compresses to 7.4k |
| 20:12.37 | jbowler | Need a shell script compiler... |
| 20:28.34 | sinclair73de | g2: back again? |
| 20:29.06 | [g2] | sinclair73de nod |
| 20:31.45 | [g2] | sinclair73de are you wondering about getting LE running ? |
| 20:32.45 | sinclair73de | very nice things on your homepage :-) |
| 20:35.18 | [g2] | heh |
| 20:36.08 | sinclair73de | i dont know so much about BE/LE... I only see the error messages when try to run debianslug from sdram |
| 20:36.43 | sinclair73de | g2: i think... not cheap this boards |
| 20:38.47 | [g2] | sinclair73de if you want to run debian LE you to a couple different ways you can go |
| 20:39.43 | [g2] | A) you can reflash the kernel in LE mode and boot APEX in LE and just boot the kernel normally in LE |
| 20:39.58 | [g2] | you'll have to build the kernel for this |
| 20:40.19 | [g2] | there's a 2.6.15 version in CVS to do something like this |
| 20:41.11 | [g2] | B) you can use the CVS version but prepends the LE commands to the vmlinuz |
| 20:42.05 | [g2] | c) you can use that debianslug plan as it being worked out |
| 20:46.30 | sinclair73de | i have used mastermakefile with make debianslug-image |
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| 20:48.23 | jbowler | sinclair73de: that image (zImage-loftle) just works, but you need to byte swap the command line |
| 20:48.51 | sinclair73de | because i dont want to flash at this time, i unpack the image and tried to upload the ramdisk and kernel from apex |
| 20:49.05 | jbowler | [cc]smart: pb__ in #oe has a problem with a missing /etc/resolv.conf on non-openslug (well, non-slugos) apparently because populate-var.sh isn't creating it any more. |
| 20:49.26 | [cc]smart | just saw it, that's why i'm in. |
| 20:49.34 | [g2] | jbowler do you know how the mem param works he's got a 128MB unit |
| 20:49.51 | jbowler | sinclair73de: you can't do that, you need to run the zImage, if you uncompress it you will strip the switch-to-le code off the front. |
| 20:49.58 | [cc]smart | now my problem is, i've had three dead HDs in my server last week in one night breaking the raid |
| 20:50.16 | [cc]smart | so i gotta check by net |
| 20:50.18 | [g2] | [cc]smart OUCH! |
| 20:50.21 | jbowler | [cc]smart: I think it's just a matter of having a 01_core with a link to the /var/tmp/resolv.conf, but I wasn't sure. |
| 20:51.02 | jbowler | I.e. I think openslug(slugos) and nylon need an empty file but everything else needs an empty file in /var/tmp + a link. |
| 20:51.12 | [cc]smart | so /var/tmp/resolv.conf is generated during startup and what they want is a link generated in /etc as resolv.conf pointing to /var/tmp/resolv.conf. correct ? |
| 20:51.59 | sinclair73de | jbowler: zImage-loftle or zImage-nslu2le ? |
| 20:52.00 | jbowler | I think so - the origiinal (pre-r36) code seemed to do that, then (openslug/nylon) zap the link in do_install_append |
| 20:52.21 | jbowler | sinclair73de: nslu2 is for an nslu2 board, loft is for a loft board |
| 20:52.30 | jbowler | nas100d is for a nas100d board |
| 20:52.44 | sinclair73de | ok, i have a nslu2 board |
| 20:53.00 | [g2] | I think jbowler has 'em all |
| 20:53.20 | [g2] | jbowler is _such_ a *stud* |
| 20:53.24 | jbowler | sinclair73de: you have to build your own kernel, you need to modify the compiled in command line. |
| 20:53.49 | sinclair73de | hmmm? |
| 20:54.00 | jbowler | I.e. you have to change the CMDLINE in defconfig because you aren't booting off /dev/mtdblock4 and there is no way to change the command line on NSLU2 from the boot loader |
| 20:54.09 | [cc]smart | if zapping is still in place, then 00_core shows what to do which would be sth. likel root root 644 /var/tmp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:54.48 | [cc]smart | with zapping this could be added to core |
| 20:55.14 | [cc]smart | removing the zapping and creating a new 01_resolv.conf thing would allow to install this for those that need it only |
| 20:56.20 | [cc]smart | ah, sometime i'm not reading precise. will see if pb__ is there |
| 20:56.33 | jbowler | the bitbake (.bb) file zapped it - the boot script doesn't need to |
| 20:56.46 | jbowler | I think it gets zapped because /var/tmp is on tmpfs |
| 21:00.36 | sinclair73de | this is in defconfig CONFIG_CMDLINE=" noirqdebug console=ttsS0,115200n8" |
| 21:01.43 | jbowler-away | right, so root=/dev/mtdblock4 and rootfstype=jffs2 gets prepended to that in work/ixp4xx-kernel*/*/arch/arm/mach-ixp4xx/nslu2-setup.c |
| 21:02.11 | jbowler-away | So if you add something to the end it will probably work (assuming you remember to byte swap the disk image if you load it into SDRAM). |
| 21:03.34 | sinclair73de | i think thats too much for me :-( |
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| 21:26.18 | sinclair73de | jbowler: what is the right cmdline for booting from ram? |
| 21:45.27 | eFfeM | koen, don't know if this interests you but in #nslu2-linux, snowbike is claiming he has the imic wokring |
| 21:45.33 | eFfeM | s/wokring/working |
| 21:49.01 | koen | that's great news |
| 21:50.33 | eFfeM | koen this is something he mentioned: |
| 21:50.34 | eFfeM | ok, rebooted, modprobe soundcore; modprobe snd_usb_audio; cat /dev/dsp > test.wav ; cat test.wav > /dev/dsp shows that it is working after reboot |
| 21:50.34 | eFfeM | snowbike the other change I made was "mv /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0 ; ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp" because the imic wants to be /dev/dsp1, and I'm really trying to save that valuable "1" key :) |
| 21:51.03 | koen | heh |
| 21:51.51 | koen | I'' try that when I get back home |
| 21:51.54 | koen | 'night all |
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| 22:07.05 | jbowler-away | sinclair73de: use initrd=... and either init=<name of init program> or rdinit=<name of early init program> depending on what you are doing. You may have to know the exactly length of the initrd (true for a CPIO archive for example), but if you use a regular FS image I think that isn't necessary. You have to know the load point and give a length. Syntax can be found in the kernel source somewhere (search for initrd=) |
| 22:08.03 | eFfeM | sinclair73de, I think your le boot with apex will just work. see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-developers/message/559 |
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| 23:34.21 | mwester | Dunno about the insmod command, it should be doing that automatically, but perhaps not on Unslung 5.5 (I run 6.0 alpha) |
| 23:35.37 | mwester | nevermind! |
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