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| 16:13.53 | clapont | hi everyone! |
| 16:15.09 | PaulFertser | Hi. Any news? |
| 16:21.15 | clapont | PaulFertser: nothing besides that I am healthy, which is what I wish to you too. and to everyone else :-) |
| 16:21.45 | PaulFertser | clapont: thank you! |
| 16:23.48 | clapont | I'm trying to tunnel my desire (not real need) of untampered/untracked voice calls through a new laptop, with low energy consumption which, with 4G, is quite a mobile voice solution :-) |
| 16:25.00 | clapont | jitsi works very well and I tested it (in the past) on Windows/Linux/Mac |
| 16:28.17 | clapont | now... how much secure my own laptop it.. I cannot be sure. the Computrace is disabled but who knows what else -similar to Computrace's LoJack- can be in firmware |
| 16:28.23 | clapont | *is |
| 16:29.59 | PaulFertser | clapont: you might want to consider one or more of me_cleaner + coreboot + Qubes OS |
| 16:32.54 | clapont | hmm, I did not know about me_cleaner, thank you! I disabled AMT already |
| 16:34.07 | clapont | for OS I go with Debian because of the largest pool of software available at hand |
| 16:35.38 | clapont | I compile some sources but that's rare - for example to add Skype to Pidgin (not to install the Skype's official software requiring root permissions) |
| 16:38.14 | PaulFertser | clapont: please do read about Qubes OS. It's not like I suggest you to not use Debian. |
| 16:39.57 | clapont | I didn't know that djb recommends Qube, this is a serious. this new laptop can handle well virtualization, I am reading the Requirements/hcl |
| 16:41.21 | clapont | understood. I was thinking to Debian + qemu/vm for Win7/etc where I can install any kind of software |
| 16:47.34 | clapont | the Debian10 Buster seems bloated to me - I liked Debian7 Wheezy (no systemd, small, quick) but I do small steps (I changed the laptop and I still like the old); I know that Slackware is light but slow with updates-understandable; Gentoo does good compiling everything per hardware. Arch also worths considering |
| 16:54.42 | PaulFertser | clapont: current Debian stable is pretty unbloated. systemd might be questionable but it's not bloat per se. |
| 16:55.23 | clapont | my idea is to have a stable/optimized OS, on which to run any VM. I see QubesOS thinks the same but through Xen. |
| 16:55.26 | clapont | For now you have to choose between cleaning your BIOS and deploying Anti Evil Maid. |
| 17:00.06 | clapont | PaulFertser: maybe are only impressions, I'm between laptops/OSes. Wheezy yes, I really liked that. maybe would be a idea to run an older OS with a new compiled kernel, not having any port open; still I would need the dhcpcd -or not, I can set the IP manually; the WiFi drivers/connection software have to be manually built, then... it does not matter how old my "vi" is |
| 17:00.18 | clapont | *an idea |
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