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| 17:59.12 | slobber | channel exists, so the project is still alive, right? is there not a US distributor anymore? |
| 18:00.47 | slobber | actually most of the links on the distributor list are broken |
| 18:03.52 | slobber | i'm looking at getting either a neo or another phone to install openmoko on - can i use it regularly out of the box? is it more or less stable? |
| 18:06.20 | slobber | also 2g in the states is basically out, does it ever support 3g/4g? 3g i think is leaving us soon too |
| 18:33.52 | PaulFertser | Channel doesn't mean much, the project is long dead. |
| 18:34.07 | PaulFertser | 3g (if you mean UMTS) is supported by gta04 hardware by another vendor. |
| 18:34.40 | PaulFertser | "openmoko OS" doesn't mean anything particular. Most people who wanted to use devices as phones used QtMoko or SHR. |
| 18:35.14 | PaulFertser | slobber: what is it exactly you're after? Probably you just need a dumb cellphone plus a suitable mini-notebook? |
| 18:36.50 | slobber | PaulFertser: that's actually what i've got now: nokia 8110 4g and a onemix 2s. works well, but the nokia is garbage. there's some hackery project for kaios that might be of value, but there are a lot of stupid UI choices i can't fix |
| 18:40.07 | slobber | so i was kind of looking (again) for a mostly open-source phone. i did preorder librem 5 a while back and should probably just wait around for that |
| 18:40.20 | PaulFertser | slobber: I'm afraid whatever good is left from the openmoko is no good for your purposes... |
| 18:40.53 | slobber | gotcha. did it not get far in features? tethering, sms and calls are pretty important to me |
| 18:41.05 | PaulFertser | slobber: librem might be an option but I am very sceptical about them, plenty of marketing with actually semi-poor track-record (given their bullshit about the laptop). |
| 18:41.53 | slobber | PaulFertser: what was their bullshit about the laptop? |
| 18:42.01 | PaulFertser | slobber: Openmoko devices run Linux, the kernel, so "tethering" obviously worked whatever way you needed. sms and calls work too. |
| 18:42.28 | PaulFertser | slobber: some absurd claims about the hardware kill switches. |
| 18:44.01 | slobber | ahhh |
| 18:44.57 | PaulFertser | slobber: I can probably dig some channel logs with more details... |
| 18:45.30 | PaulFertser | I'm using my own UI for "openmoko", it's running inside Emacs :) |
| 18:45.58 | slobber | oh, neat |
| 18:46.05 | slobber | it's your daily driver? |
| 18:47.01 | PaulFertser | I'm not using a cellphone at all lately as my gta02 got touchscreen damaged, so I only control it via ssh with a laptop. But it used to be my only daily phone, yes. |
| 18:48.38 | raychan | hmm, i wonder if gta01 has any value, just found one while i was cleaning my desk |
| 18:49.59 | PaulFertser | If I could find mine I'd unglued the LCM from it to install on gta02 :) |
| 18:50.42 | PaulFertser | I guess you can make gta01 into a nice wall clock with proper NTP time. |
| 18:50.58 | PaulFertser | Or did it not have wifi? |
| 18:51.11 | slobber | hmm |
| 18:51.51 | raychan | PaulFertser: not a bad idea :) |
| 18:52.21 | PaulFertser | It has USB host for wifi card or you can just hook an ESP8266 to its UART. |
| 18:52.22 | raychan | too bad the battery was dead so it wont boot even with usb power |
| 18:52.35 | PaulFertser | Get Nokia BL-5C as a replacement |
| 18:52.39 | raychan | yep |
| 18:53.06 | PaulFertser | So yes, time/weather/news gadget that would remind you of the happier times. |
| 18:53.26 | PaulFertser | When Openmoko was the community and there was hope for a bright future. |
| 18:54.01 | PaulFertser | (usb host for wifi card not recommended, ancient kernel do not support modern wifi cards) |
| 18:54.49 | raychan | i have old usb-wifi cards that do only .11B and have linux drivers for really old kernels |
| 18:55.24 | raychan | but perhaps usb-ethernet might be better idea |
| 18:55.40 | raychan | with PoE i could keep it charged all times |
| 18:57.12 | PaulFertser | Yeah, you need a wire for the power in any case for this purpose. |
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