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| 18:14.45 | samgee | Hi. My freerunner was working fine when I stopped using it last June. Now I want to pick it up again, but my nand boot fails with a kernel panic and my sd boot failed with some i/o error... |
| 18:15.30 | samgee | I untarred the latest qtmoko on the sd, but it still fails. Error = wrong image format for bootm command. Not sure what that means. |
| 18:16.05 | samgee | I actually planned to run debian, but the wiki page says it needs a working nand to bootstrap. |
| 18:16.39 | samgee | How can I get my pocket monster going again? |
| 18:17.27 | samgee | Use case is not cell phone, but some form of communication over wifi. |
| 18:19.11 | samgee | Bootloader = u-boot 1.3.2-moko12 |
| 18:28.41 | samgee | nand boot error: UBI error: ubi_read_volume_table: the layout volume was not found |
| 18:38.50 | PaulFertser | samgee: regarding the sd error, it means whatever it read from card as a kernel is not a u-boot image. |
| 18:41.31 | samgee | hm, I used the tarball from https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ |
| 18:43.04 | PaulFertser | samgee: do you have full log or photo? |
| 18:44.42 | PaulFertser | samgee: are you using nand bootloader to boot from SD card or NOR bootloader? |
| 18:44.56 | PaulFertser | samgee: that's an important part because the NOR one might be outdated. |
| 18:45.25 | samgee | using nor |
| 18:45.36 | samgee | tries to get a picture |
| 18:46.24 | PaulFertser | samgee: you're supposed to use NOR only to reflash NAND :) |
| 18:46.35 | PaulFertser | With dfu-util |
| 18:46.36 | samgee | oh |
| 18:48.13 | samgee | I remembered holding the top button and then the side button to boot to sd. |
| 18:49.10 | PaulFertser | samgee: that would be using NOR bootloader and that's generally a bad idea because it's an old version. |
| 18:50.36 | samgee | how do I get to sd otherwise? |
| 18:50.43 | samgee | wading through ancient docs |
| 18:52.36 | PaulFertser | samgee: you flash u-boot or Qi to NAND with dfu-util, and that would in turn boot from SD. |
| 18:54.43 | samgee | I thought I had done that once, many years ago. |
| 18:54.59 | samgee | ooh, I still have dfu-util on this machine |
| 18:55.19 | samgee | goes to find an image |
| 18:55.50 | PaulFertser | samgee: my point is, using NOR u-boot for actual booting is not recommended because there are known issues with it. Fixed in later versions. |
| 18:56.30 | PaulFertser | samgee: btw, https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ has a README and it shows how to flash Qi to NAND. |
| 18:56.44 | PaulFertser | samgee: and Qi image is there too |
| 18:56.50 | samgee | yeah, just saw that 2 seconds ago :) |
| 18:57.18 | samgee | NAND boot = power + aux, but that got me the kernel panic so far. |
| 18:57.35 | PaulFertser | samgee: no, nand boot is just short power button press. |
| 18:58.02 | PaulFertser | (I mean it's boot to NAND bootloader, and then whatever it decides to do) |
| 18:58.22 | samgee | hm, same kernel panic |
| 18:58.58 | PaulFertser | Can you show? |
| 18:59.10 | PaulFertser | Have you flashed Qi with dfu-util? |
| 18:59.42 | samgee | trying that now |
| 19:04.17 | samgee | dfu-util finished without error. Still getting kernel panic. |
| 19:06.03 | samgee | it's hard to get a readable picture of the device. |
| 19:06.25 | PaulFertser | samgee: are you sure you used ext3 and proper command to unpack tar to it? |
| 19:08.00 | samgee | Pretty sure, but I'll try again |
| 19:09.04 | PaulFertser | And that it's the first partition and ms-dos partition table? |
| 19:09.14 | PaulFertser | I'd really like to see the actual panic message |
| 19:17.33 | samgee | Still the same panic. Picture doesn't work, so I'll just have to type it over. |
| 19:18.53 | PaulFertser | You can try to rephrase |
| 19:22.54 | samgee | http://dpaste.com/1FDDTRR |
| 19:23.13 | samgee | I left out the timestamps and the stacktrace that comes after that. |
| 19:24.10 | PaulFertser | samgee: that looks pretty much like it's trying to use NAND for rootfs. |
| 19:24.29 | PaulFertser | samgee: so probably the bootloader doesn't see SD at all. |
| 19:24.40 | PaulFertser | samgee: how many vibrations do you get on boot? |
| 19:24.49 | PaulFertser | Or aux blinks |
| 19:24.51 | samgee | that's what I suspected |
| 19:25.31 | samgee | 1 vibration, 1 blink |
| 19:25.47 | PaulFertser | samgee: can you show ls -l for root of SD from your PC, along with the appropriate line from "mount"? |
| 19:26.35 | PaulFertser | And are you sure this SD card is not SDXC? |
| 19:29.20 | samgee | http://dpaste.com/398H2XV |
| 19:30.04 | samgee | I bought an SDXC a few weeks ago to use for this, but I realized only after that I couldn't use it in the FR |
| 19:30.28 | PaulFertser | samgee: yes, looks proper. Still it might be an incompatible SD card... |
| 19:31.08 | samgee | hm, this one's SDHC. |
| 19:32.15 | PaulFertser | SDHC should work |
| 19:32.37 | PaulFertser | samgee: using Qi is sometimes kinda pain without serial console... |
| 19:32.55 | PaulFertser | samgee: do you consider reflashing nand with dfu-util? |
| 19:34.23 | samgee | I wanted to check if I still have some data on there I want to keep, but if that's the only way to get it going, I'll just have to be grownup about it :) |
| 19:34.36 | PaulFertser | samgee: there should still be some ways to boot from SD... |
| 19:35.07 | PaulFertser | samgee: oh, btw, you're trying SD without sim card I assume, right? |
| 19:36.17 | samgee | indeed, no SIM. But I have one handy if necessary. |
| 19:36.31 | PaulFertser | samgee: have you already guessed why it might matter? ;) |
| 19:36.46 | samgee | :/ |
| 19:36.49 | samgee | tries again |
| 19:37.07 | PaulFertser | samgee: sim card physically pushes SD for better contact. |
| 19:37.58 | samgee | Still the same panic |
| 19:38.02 | PaulFertser | :( |
| 19:38.20 | PaulFertser | There should be zero vibrations, or else it means Qi skipped SD partition. |
| 19:38.57 | samgee | blows contacts on phone and SD |
| 19:39.56 | samgee | Still vibration + panic. |
| 19:40.51 | samgee | I had this thing in my pocket for 9 years and submitted it to some e-pain. It kept on working. Now it's been lying on the table for a few months and it's totally b0rked? |
| 19:40.56 | PaulFertser | Can you try another SD just in case/ |
| 19:41.11 | PaulFertser | What was e-pain? |
| 19:41.17 | PaulFertser | Could it have damaged NAND contents? |
| 19:42.02 | PaulFertser | NAND is NAND, it's not super-reliable |
| 19:42.30 | PaulFertser | samgee: do you probably have a UART USB converter? Then you can just read Qi's bootlog from a testpoint. |
| 19:42.33 | samgee | I think I dropped it from about 0.5 m once, and it got moist in my pocket from rain a few times. |
| 19:43.06 | samgee | I have no idea what that would look like. |
| 19:43.25 | samgee | Ah, found another SD |
| 19:56.02 | samgee | This card is taking a really long time to write to. Also, it's only 512 MiB. |
| 20:09.50 | samgee | Finally done. Still the same kernel panic. :( |
| 20:10.26 | samgee | That's the only other SD I have. |
| 20:26.50 | PaulFertser | samgee: you can flash u-boot to NAND as bootloader and it should show more data about sd card. |
| 20:28.53 | samgee | Do you know of a good u-boot image? |
| 20:29.03 | PaulFertser | No, since I was a Qi fan. |
| 20:29.11 | samgee | ah :) |
| 20:29.55 | PaulFertser | But I think there's something relevant on the wiki. |
| 20:30.55 | samgee | Looking at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x |
| 20:31.40 | samgee | hm, dead link |
| 20:32.49 | samgee | downloads random u-boot binary |
| 20:32.55 | samgee | yay software freedom :) |
| 20:40.18 | samgee | The good news: no kernel panic. The bad news: I just get a black screen with some pixels in random colors. |
| 20:45.38 | samgee | Ooh, I got a NAND boot menu using power + aux |
| 20:47.55 | samgee | Apparently I have SHR in flash, but that also ends in kernel panic. "VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block(0,0)". |
| 20:50.23 | PaulFertser | But with nand u-boot you might be able to make it show what exactly it doesn't like about sd. |
| 20:50.31 | samgee | Now I got a bit more from SD boot, but it seems to hang. |
| 20:50.43 | PaulFertser | samgee: you can attach to it as it exposes ttyACM device and you can issue uboot commands there interactively. |
| 20:51.55 | samgee | It hangs with "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2..." |
| 20:52.14 | PaulFertser | samgee: oh, it means it expects rootfs to be on the second SD partition. |
| 20:52.16 | samgee | pcf50633 0-0073: usb curlim to 1000mA |
| 20:52.25 | samgee | oh |
| 20:52.34 | PaulFertser | samgee: but you can edit it via ACM before booting. |
| 20:52.47 | PaulFertser | setenv bootargs etc. |
| 20:53.05 | PaulFertser | But you're pretty close now. |
| 20:53.15 | samgee | looks on wiki for ACM magic incantations |
| 20:53.25 | PaulFertser | Not magic, regular u-boot |
| 20:53.42 | PaulFertser | Or just try creating a second partition on your fast SD and untar rootfs there. |
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| 20:54.27 | samgee | That might be easier (for me) :) |
| 21:03.56 | samgee | Resized the partition, put another one (ext3) next to it, untarred also to that one, so both partitions have the same fs. |
| 21:04.08 | samgee | Boot ends with "ERROR: can't find kernel image" |
| 21:04.38 | PaulFertser | samgee: how was it able to before?.. |
| 21:05.21 | samgee | Dunno, my first boot from NAND had the same. It was the second try that got further. |
| 21:05.45 | samgee | now it's booting again |
| 21:06.10 | samgee | uhm, see an SHR splash screen |
| 21:07.23 | samgee | wow, I'm in SHR's main menu |
| 21:07.35 | samgee | I'm pretty sure I told it to boot from SD |
| 21:11.30 | samgee | It shows battery at 12% even though it's plugged in for a while. I'm not going to get more than 5 seconds of wifi on this thing. |
| 21:18.03 | samgee | Booting SD actually shows a series of: cmd 0x8, arg 0x1aa flags 0x75 |
| 21:18.18 | samgee | Error after cmd: 0xfffffffe |
| 21:18.49 | samgee | Times 12 or something (it's pretty quick) |
| 21:19.02 | samgee | then: No MMC card found |
| 21:19.26 | samgee | I guess it's not liking my SD. |
| 21:21.32 | samgee | Replaced the card, now boot gives me some card info and then "Unable to read uImage.bin from mmc 1:1" |
| 21:23.39 | samgee | That's all I have time for today. I'll stick around in case anyone would like to share a tip. |
| 21:32.43 | PaulFertser | samgee: you can just move kernel image from /boot to / of the first partition on the card, and name it uImage.bin. |
| 21:33.01 | PaulFertser | samgee: regarding the battery, you can just use new nokia bl-6c or bl-5c. |
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