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| 06:17.15 | spindle | Hi, I wanted to get allocated a USB Product ID under with openmoko Vendor ID for my project, but the email I sent to usb-id@openmoko.org bounced. My mail agent said it returned a 451 error. So I was wondering if the offer is still valid |
| 06:24.45 | PaulFertser | spindle: do you have free hardware design too? |
| 06:25.03 | PaulFertser | spindle: the address should work but the actual processing of requests was stalled |
| 06:44.24 | spindle | I have free hardware designs for most parts of my project, but I run one component of the firmware on generic nRF24LU1+ dongles which I don't have any hardware designs for. Since all the nRF24LU1+ dongles basically have the same hardware design, I didn't feel the need to make my own. Is that an issue? I read on the application page, and it says only OSS or OSHW is required |
| 06:46.12 | spindle | I can actually run that part of my firmware on Logitech unifying receivers, since they use a nRF24LU1+ and its bootloader doesn't have any firmware signatures on updates. |
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| 07:06.40 | PaulFertser | spindle: I'm not sure if pin.codes can approve that but they might. |
| 07:07.24 | PaulFertser | spindle: judging by your description it should be ok for OM policies. |
| 07:09.22 | PaulFertser | spindle: I suggest you try pin.codes, and if they refuse, then probably OM |
| 07:09.30 | spindle | Yeah, I wasn't sure if pid.codes would approve that. That's why I tried openmoko first since the application said it only need one of (OSS, OSHW) |
| 07:09.39 | spindle | Yeah, I'll try pid.codes |
| 07:09.43 | PaulFertser | spindle: yes, OM is less strict |
| 07:50.17 | PaulFertser | spindle: btw, if you're using Nordic SDK, can the resulting code be free software? |
| 07:51.43 | PaulFertser | spindle: at least with libraries from ST microelectronics that doesn't seem to be possible, and I'm afraid I was reading similar clauses in the nordic license. Or am I missing something? |
| 07:54.49 | spindle | I don't use the nordic SDK, all my own MIT software |
| 07:55.08 | PaulFertser | Great |
| 07:55.53 | spindle | Yeah, Nordic's license was pretty rubbish. But there new stuff for the nRF52 is looking really good |
| 07:56.20 | spindle | And there SDK is really easy to get going on Linux now too |
| 08:02.45 | PaulFertser | I have nrf51 SDK handy and it seems one can't even distribute it as part of a source code project. |
| 08:04.41 | spindle | Yeah, they switched to a BSD style license for the nRF52 series, but it doesn't look like they will change their older licenses |
| 08:05.07 | PaulFertser | Ok, good to know. |
| 08:08.18 | PaulFertser | https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/blogs/1122/introducing-nordics-new-software-licensing-schemes/ says "you may only target Nordic Semiconductor microcontrollers with the software" but it's not immediately obvious if it's infecting "derived" code with that or not. |
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| 08:28.05 | spindle | Yeah, that would prevent it from being used with GPL code right? Although, I don't think that's any issue for most other licenses, since any modifications made to their files is only going to work on their hardware. The platform independent part of the code should be in separate files anyway. |
| 08:28.56 | spindle | I generally avoid GPL for microcontroller code, because there's too many grey areas with all these manufactures licenses |
| 08:29.30 | spindle | With MIT/BSD there's much less confusion |
| 09:15.22 | PaulFertser | Not sure, can't tell. |
| 15:24.37 | PaulFertser | https://github.com/apache/mynewt-core provides free software BLE stack for nordic |
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