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01:26.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | PaulFertser: I sent a short mail to Harald to let him know about us two fools picking up on the volunteering |
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07:53.53 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05: so kuldeep's project certainly qualifies. I have admin rights on the wiki. I can both edit the page and also send the information to usb.ids list. |
07:54.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | OK |
07:54.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think the PID to use is pretty obvious |
07:54.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | usb.ids is not up to date anyway |
07:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | the OM (0147?) records are pathetic |
07:55.21 | PaulFertser | ACK on both points. |
07:55.26 | PaulFertser | FIC :) |
07:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | 015d |
07:55.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
07:56.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait, maybe I searched for wrong code? |
07:56.14 | PaulFertser | 0x1457 is FIC, 0x1d50 is OM |
07:56.17 | PaulFertser | Apparently |
07:56.25 | kuldeep | one minute |
07:56.35 | kuldeep | hey PaulFertser and DocScrutinizer05 |
07:56.53 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, shall i forward you the email that i send for vid/pid request? |
07:56.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1d50 OpenMoko, Inc. |
07:56.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5119 GTA01/GTA02 U-Boot Bootloader |
07:56.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | 602b FPGALink |
07:57.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | 6053 Darkgame Controller |
07:57.15 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: yes, please, fercerpav@gmail.com |
07:58.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, usb.ids is terribly out of date |
07:58.30 | PaulFertser | Kinda strange those two last entries are the only that present. Neither older nor newer. |
07:58.38 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, sent. |
07:58.44 | kuldeep | (sending.... :) |
07:59.09 | kuldeep | Note: PID = 0x8085 VID = 0x1d50 is required |
07:59.16 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05: what email address do you prefer so I ca forward kuldeep's message to you? |
07:59.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | om |
07:59.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | joerg@openmoko.org |
07:59.53 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: so it's already deployed in the wild? |
08:00.19 | PaulFertser | I think it's ok to assign that PID in this case. |
08:00.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | we would prefer a PID that fits into the scheme |
08:00.36 | PaulFertser | But if the hardware is already out there... |
08:00.45 | PaulFertser | It's not his fault for Harald not replying for half a year. |
08:00.47 | kuldeep | because when we started, we didn't knew if it would already be consumed so |
08:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | so no chance to change the PID? |
08:01.20 | kuldeep | so, we used a large gap to make sure that no collision occur |
08:02.07 | kuldeep | DocScrutinizer05, changing PID would be time consuming / headache and already have 2 devices in wild. |
08:02.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
08:02.22 | PaulFertser | I think that's a fair reasoning. |
08:02.24 | kuldeep | we have alot of software that need to be change. |
08:02.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ack for 8085 then |
08:02.36 | kuldeep | thanks!!! |
08:02.37 | PaulFertser | ack |
08:02.40 | kuldeep | ack |
08:03.00 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05: I'll edit the wiki now and try to generate a patch for USB ids, ok? |
08:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
08:04.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | the patch will be laaarge ;-) |
08:04.20 | kuldeep | and btw, all our software/hardware are free/open source. we use usb stack from libopencm3 project |
08:04.27 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: the name will be "Mad Resistor Box0 (box0-v5)" since apparently there's nowhere to insert company name otherwise. |
08:04.44 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: noticed, and that's really cool imo. |
08:04.56 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, "Box0 (box0-v5)" will do the work |
08:05.47 | kuldeep | we will use the manuf field of usb descriptor for reporting the device manuf. we can be the manuf or not. (ie forks) |
08:06.00 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: then it'll appear in lsusb as OpenMoko, Inc., Box0 (box0-v5) |
08:06.36 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: (when lsusb uses the database and not the USB descriptor strings) |
08:06.54 | kuldeep | "OpenMoko, Inc., " is pretty much irrelevant. because openmoko will not be directly in Box0 |
08:07.14 | kuldeep | also, it will only confuse others on being OpenMoko there |
08:07.45 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: OpenMoko owns the VID, so it'll be in usb.ids like it or not. |
08:10.03 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, relevancy: "Box0 (box0-v5)" > "Mad Resistor Box0 (box0-v5)" > "OpenMoko, Inc., Box0 (box0-v5)" |
08:10.20 | kuldeep | i will prefer "Box0 (box0-v5)" |
08:10.30 | kuldeep | [in lsusb listing] |
08:10.39 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: got it. |
08:11.47 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: but one can't omit "OpenMoko, Inc." from there. |
08:12.40 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: so it's possible to have "OpenMoko, Inc. Mad Resistor Box0 (box0-v5)" or "OpenMoko, Inc. Box0 (box0-v5)" in lsusb. But not "Box0 (box0-v5)". |
08:13.00 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, is it lsusb specific? (if we can do something from our side, we shall try) |
08:13.14 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: sure, it's just the way how lsusb outputs data from usb.ids. |
08:13.25 | kuldeep | ah |
08:13.39 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: sees idVendor -> fetches vendor from the database. |
08:14.39 | PaulFertser | You can fill in proper iManufacturer and iProduct in USB descriptor and those will be visible in lsusb -v. |
08:15.08 | PaulFertser | If you use HID, then Linux will also print them to dmesg iirc. |
08:15.15 | kuldeep | having "OpenMoko, Inc. Mad Resistor" would only confuse more. i would prefer "OpenMoko, Inc. Box0 (box0-v5)" |
08:15.30 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: ok |
08:15.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | PaulFertser: please edit the contact, to point to IRC |
08:16.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | wiki |
08:16.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least additional to the usb@om email |
08:16.26 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05: ok |
08:16.40 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05: probably mention our email addresses there? |
08:16.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if this email goes anywhere |
08:16.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, why not |
08:17.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess my om addr is publicly known already |
08:17.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | one more mentioning can't make things worse |
08:18.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I can ask pabs where the usb@om gets redirected to |
08:19.02 | kuldeep | btw, linking Box0 VID/PID entry to "madresistor.org/box0" would be straightforward and helpful |
08:21.41 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: btw, https doesn't work on mad resistors site. |
08:29.35 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05, kuldeep https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs fine now? Entry added, contacts points modified. |
08:30.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | PaulFertser: maybe add an empty row to make more obvious that there's a gap to fill |
08:31.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks good |
08:31.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-06-01 Wed 10:20:36] <DocScrutinizer05> pabs3: could you please check the usb-id@openmoko.org mail addr and see if it delivers to anywhere, and where. Maybe add joerg@openmoko.org and fercerpav@gmail.com |
08:31.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-06-01 Wed 10:21:46] <pabs3> please ask Harald http://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20151206-volunterr-wanted-usb_iids/ |
08:32.13 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, yes, we will request https cert from https everywhere project. we are in process |
08:33.59 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, if you want to, i would love to have "Free/Open source tool for exploring science and electronics anytime anywhere" i would atleast love to have "Free/" |
08:34.28 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: I would prefer that too but your website mentioned Open. |
08:34.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | PaulFertser: lol, there's an empty row now, alas it shrinks to oblivion. Add text like "insert next record here" please |
08:36.06 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer05: done |
08:36.09 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, hum, because of space reasons. i would try harder :) |
08:36.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
08:36.24 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: the wiki fixed now |
08:36.47 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, cool! |
08:44.31 | PaulFertser | There's also pid.codes project now. |
08:45.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suggested to join OM with them, but... |
09:05.32 | PaulFertser | kuldeep: your persistance finally payed off and the process started to work finally, thanks for that :) |
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09:14.13 | kuldeep | PaulFertser, :) |
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